The AMPP women can't even fight their own battles?
Lawless America American Mothers Political Party Private Message in response to a copyright infringement notice demanding immediate removal of Lawless America's copyrighted videos: Your "videos" are on YOUTUBE a public forum dingbat...why don't you go home and beat your dog or something instead of coming to this page and shovel your shit around. We get it..you don't like us and we sure the FxxK don't like YOU! BACK THE FxxK OFF or we will show you what a lawsuit is. Love, The Husband of one of the Admins of this page (American Mothers Political Party)."
And the turmoil continues this AM. Bill's supporters are trying to get their "hate" lists straight so they can unfriend the right people. Other supporters are trying to figure out who is posting under Bill's name - they just can't believe Bill would talk to people this way.
I thought this was an appropriate video. It involves pie and a cast of characters that fit this big story.
I did read on one of the offshoots of AMPP where they were attacking THE pie-king. "abuser" and "insane" were already used. By the end of the day, it should be quite a long list. I heard there is a blazer for sale in Texas...a few baked pies and it could be yours.
One is doing the "If you work with Lawless, change your password!" Funny funny stuff. Won't be long until Bill Windsor is part of the ring that Dauben was "exposing" or that Windsor works for Disney or has insiders that hack their computers or all of the above. Why is it anytime these idiots get angry with someone or don't like being confronted they always make claims that their enemy is hacking their computer and is never anything about them saying stupid crap that they regret? SC
LOL, video is appropriate. Just cruising FB pages, I was thinking the same thing. NONE of these people take any responsibility for THEIR OWN decisions and behavior.
As regards the AMPP women, I don't have a problem with advocates against domestic violence. However, I have no patience for women that continue a relationship and have children with a man they know to be violent. When the relationship ends, by what right do they cry foul and deny the children access to the fathers?
Same goes for Bill's group & Joey. I could go on all day about some of those people. Mary Whatshername has been "falsely" arrested 3 times?? She explained one of the arrests, wasn't really an arrest - she was detained, after running over a guy on a bike in her car. The accident was her fault, she got mad and antsy with the cop, who called for back up. He called for back up because SHE wouldn't let him do his job, which was to investigate the accident. Causes me to wonder what SHE did to cause the other 2 incidents.
Same here, I fully support advocates to stop domestic violence but when they basically use it as a vehicle with a hidden agenda, then I have no time for them. They make it harder for people that truly need help to receive any. SC
With Mary, the others were in relation to her being taken to the ER for wellness checks, and an arrest for spitting on the officers doing a wellness check after she showed up at a SS Dr eval a day early and got angry with the building receptionist because she did not know where the doctor was and said well what if I were suicidal? The receptionist called it in.
The other was IIRC from yet another wellness check because of stuff she posted on FB. There have been numerous trips to the er, and even a psych mandatory treatment of 25-30 days where they medicated her. She doesn't even take medicine for her blood pressure because she worries what it will do to her!? This woman is really in need of help. She is even angry they nolled charges(decide not to prosecute).
The accident arrest was in the newspapers, and her version is not the same as theirs. I read through months of her daily 'notes' and in some she admits how she acted, but mostly not.
This woman is currently banned from services at the dept. of labor, and veterans agencies among others. Some are repeat bannings. She has anger issues and yells at people a LOT.
As far as AMPP- umm yeah, they are a hate group even if they don't know it. I have listened to them on their broadcasts, and read their older website. All men accused of anything are guilty, and all moms should always have full custody.
Poor Mary. And, poor Gail or Karen - can't remember which, I think it was the one panhandling to get to DC. Whoever it was posted a suicidal note on LA today. She spoke as if it were someone else, but she was referring to herself. I'm wondering how Bill will react if one of these goes over the edge. Too bad Bill's mission isn't mental health services and benefits.
Gail Schumacher The only thing is that it is hard to process all of this. Some of this is all too confusing to follow in order to understand when and how, because there is too much.
I'm guessing the wheelie blazer is off the market now........
? Ok then ? At least David doesn't have to parent Joey now that Windsor is back in the picture.
I'll give Billy a month before he bans Joey after being convicted of molesting a child. No matter how you slice it, no one is going to support or back "The Movie" if the movie maker supports men who rape kids. Presley has sure learned the Daubenista language, that's quite the story.
Kind of off topic but this girl is what? 19 or 20 right? She sounds young but looks 35. wow
SC thought the blazer might be for sale since Presley's other video was pulled. " I heard there is a blazer for sale in Texas...a few baked pies and it could be yours."
I love how Presley skipped the part about what she did that caused her to leave her job. If I recall correctly, she wasn't fired - her hours were cut, so she quit.
I'm not so sure it will matter to Bill if Joey is guilty. The truth hasn't been an issue yet. Seems more likely a conviction would be used to "prove" just how corrupt TX is and how the government was successful in their conspiracy to "get" Joey. Because, he's so well known and all.
Gotta ask... anyone else read these 'walmart' bail conditions? second question - why would Joey be dismayed he couldn't walk past the toy or little kids clothing section?
If this was something he was complaining to his fiancee, shouldn't warning bells be going off big time?
oops, my "ok then" comment was not about your blazer comment NBTDT (sorry)... I was referring to Billy putting up Joey's video but taking down Presleys. Lotsa common sense going on with Mr Georgia's leading litigant
The battery must be dead in her warning bells. She's knows he's straight because after all, she's his girlfriend, she should know. But, we're probably being too hard on her - is she old enough to have warning bells?
I hadn't heard about the Walmart conditions before now, but kinda makes sense.
I also like the part where she blames bail revocation on MVZ. Nothing about how everybody on the planet knew Joey was on-line and/or posting by proxy.
yappy: sorry for my mistake. RE: Bill posting one but not the other video - maybe Presley renounced her allegiance to AMPP for Joey's sake. And, begged Daddy Bill.
Okay, I was posting on the other thread...The AMPP has a member who is posting links to many of Bill's vids, and has found one of presley's testimony on a site other than Youtube called frequency.
Billy better get right on that copyright infringement claim.
LOL about presley and warning bells...if she has any they are broken.
Looks like there will be a bit of McCarthyism going on in LA- they have the RAT squad looking for those RATS that infiltrated their world. There are also people swearing it was not Bill who posted, getting told umm yeah it was.
Don't know if I lost a post between the pages, but the Crystal Cox Bill picked as an editor(one of 4) is posting on the AMPP page about taking bill down, and is the same Crystal L Cox who was hooked up with Connie, and the same one who has a 2.4 million(IIRC) judgement against her, who calls herself an investigative journalist...she basically blackmails people into hiring her to clean up the crap she posts about them. Google her.
'Crystal Cox You are very right about Mr Bill Windsor. He is an evil man using poor mothers as his pawns fir personal gain. He only wishes to have his name in the headlines and his face on the top of the search engines alongwith his site, so he can make money. In addition he is notvery smart, as he has placed me as one of his editors. I will continue to remain on the moral side of the compass ans together we can bring down the corrupt william Windsor.'
Seems some have figured out Bill is a vexatious litigant LOL
'Walk on with hope in your heart and you will never walk alone Did you just call me a liar Bill??? "https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=400738956672688&set=a.216617731751479.54078.100002097607567&type=1&theater" Your group has issues with liars Bill. My group has issues with libel. You may not be able to bring on any more lawsuits in the USA my members can. Why are you attacking abused mothers Bill? We thought you were going after court officials not their victims.'
And in another comment that sums up AMPP completely-
'Sounds like the conversations going on in family court all over woman against man father against mother your fault not mine...who will put the children first? 4 hours ago · Like American Mothers Political Party The mother will put the children first. She is the natural guardian'
They support no one but the mother getting full custody. They do not support grandparents unless it is the maternal grandmother only if the mother is deceased. No one but a mother can raise a child according to AMPP.
Not quite, they do not support pedos, or the parents of the pedos, I mean, they DID raise one! This is not an easy one size fits all "cause". They believe good mothers and fathers should have custody. They believe that battered women should have an easy time of leaving an abuser/molester safely without being stalked through family courts by their vexatious litigant abuser. But when the court system does actually work and the courts keep the pedo dad away from the child(ren) then Granny and Grandpa Pedo will fight for custody or visitation. Make sense?
to prove it is him posting, and not someone using his LA id, Bill was posting as himself last nite- to connie
'Bill Windsor Connie, you know I think the world of you, but if you support this organization, you will not be in the movie or our videos. Just that simple. This group is misguided and is being run by misguided people, in my opinion. If anyone supports this group, simply do me the courtesy of emailing me at Nbodies@att.net to so advise me. I will remove your video from YouTube, and I will remove you from the movie. No need for further discussion. 19 hours ago'
I'm not supporting AMPP, but they do have a point. It's not their fault Bill didn't do his home work. Everything's been rocking along nicely, Bill even "adopted" Connie's BFF. He never indicated that he had any doubt that the problems these women caused for themselves were definitely a result of government corruption. Then out of the blue, WHAM - he attacks them for being who they are and who they've been the whole time.
The other side of the coin is the FR groups. Well, they have their share of crazy and again Bill didn't do his homework. Case in point: somebody posted a link to a blog for statement made by Rik Little. I read the blog & comments - Rik's comments are so horrible, I won't re-post them. Then I watched his "testimony" to Bill. This a male version of Connie, only with the potential to cause physical harm. I didn't see any indication court corruption. I think any woman in her right mind should fear this man and the courts made the right decision in denying him custody of his kid.
NEWSFLASH From Slimmy! ROFL - my hubby choked on his mashed taters when Slimmys text came in. Take a look, someone is calling da police on the meanie men-hating women.
Lawless America These are extremely sick people. These people hate men, are anti-grandparent, and are apparently against just about anything. I will not allow anyone associated with their group in any manner to appear in the movie or participate in our efforts in any manner. They are like a cancer. I am filing a complaint with the police over the cyberstalking. 22 minutes ago · 1
Stephanie Lynn Okay I believe you. I'm not going to go investigate by going through their FB. But really all I saw was them talking about us. We can dislike them and not associate with them but let's not bash anymore. They're talking about us like we are bullies. I know it's not true but we aren't looking good by publicly trashing them and posting their info and messages. 19 minutes ago via mobile
Lawless America Stephanie, sorry, but I will continue to expose these people. They are liars. They have libeled and slandered me repeatedly, and I will not allow people like that to do so without exposing them in every way possible. I plan to write a feature article about them on January 1. Claudine Dombrowski and Lorraine Tipton seem to be two of the ringleaders. 12 minutes ago
Poor Billy is now using the very same system to go after the women HE agreed to video?
oopsie - using the very SAME system he loathes now to go after the ones he thought were victims.
Slimmy - I can't keep up with you. Damn you're the funniest Texan I've ever met, I'm going to have to share some of Slimmy-ISMS with the group in a bit.
Should be interesting when his Editor Crystal Cox gets involved in what he is writing. After all, she is going to take him down and all.
I do agree he is attacking these women who want out. The one about Donna Turkos (read up on her, wow she went through hell) and that other woman were pretty vicious with the comments. When billy gets his panties in a bunch, he believes in mob attacks. Cowards like him always like help.
On that post from Stephanie Lynn we now have Loryn Ryder weighing in. She claims she is not a member of AMPP
I bet Bill will re-instate her video, she did after all have the highest number of views on YouTube (a lot more than Connie). You need to ask nicer Loryn...mention pies ;)
Bill ought to say a little prayer and be thankful he has Stephanie Lynn and Karen Lester. These 2 are all he's going for him right this minute.
Kathy Lester SAY NO TO PARENTAL ALIENATION PERIOD KIDS NEED BOTH THEIR PARENTS AND MANY END THEIR RELATIONSHIPS DUE TO CHEATING OR MONEY PROBLEMS BUT FORGET THEY CREATED AND WERE GIFTED THESE BEAUTIFUL CHILDREN FROM GOD INSTEAD THEY LET THEIR JEALOUSY AND ANGER SPEW INTO THEIR CHILDRENS LIVES that is abuse in itself...... However there are those real cases where the other PARENT SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO SEE THEIR CHILD EVER and those should only be founded when there is legally documented abuse.
I know what you mean NBTDT, he has another couple of his head people Allie and Lori that are at odds over this whole thing. They (other than the conspiracy theories one follows) seem like they are working hard to help, but one turned the other in for comments on a thread that lead to this whole blow up.
It's all about power and control...and it is spreading. I haven't tried to figure out what their backgrounds are, but both are editors along with Crystal Cox. This just won't end well. Maybe there is a problem choosing who to be the head editor?
I am Jonah Melinn, and what I stated was the truth, neither I nor any of my siblings have ever been abused by Blake Melinn, our father. He is a great father who does his best despite your best efforts to convince the world otherwise. You exploit ALL of us to spread your word and you abuse the fact that you have emotional control over Isaiah to make him claim false abuse as well. You are a sick individual and are not mentally fit to be a parent or a guardian of ANY children. If anyone has shown maltreatment of children it was you with your neglectful behavior, I think the problem you have with me is that I remember too much..not too little. Try to shut me up Maria, I'm not going anywhere.
There is irrefutable evidence on record that Blake Melinn is an abuser. He was convicted of domestic violence for breaking his (now ex) wife's back, and there are numerous reports on file with CPS and the Grand Rapids Police regarding his abuse of the children. These reports are substantiated with evaluations by licensed psychologists, members of the clergy, and school and hospital personnel. Furhermore, Blake's mother and step-father are on record for violating child labor laws, putting Blake & Maria's children to work in their machine shop.
recall - Are you maria? Seems to me YOU fail to provide full information in order to color the picture. Such as, how many times did Maria call the police on her son, then 10 and 11 years old, in an attempt to put him away for the sin of wanting to spend time with the man he knew as his father? How many times was Maria found to have neglected Isaiah (think carefully: Bike, naked only diaper incidents)? How about the fact that Maria was arrested for DV as well after purposefully running into her ex-husband with a car - witnessed by her own children? This is just a touch of what we already know. Do you condone Michael's psychological torture? Do you dismiss his suicide? Are you is saying it is okay to assault another human behind with a two-ton piece of machinery? Seems to me you only share what you want known and not the WHOLE picture. But don't you worry, the FULL picture is about to be revealed.
"recalljudgecroninFebruary 11, 2013 at 1:23 AM ....These reports are substantiated with evaluations by licensed psychologists, members of the clergy, and school and hospital personnel. Furhermore, Blake's mother and step-father are on record for violating child labor laws, putting Blake & Maria's children to work in their machine shop." 1. Isaiah would wash windows, the floor, simple things like that in the FRONT OFFICES at the machine shop. He was not allowed to go out back, and to be honest, he got paid handsomely for his less-then-back-breaking work 2. Since when does the clergy have any relevance? Maria is Jewish, remember? Once again -Jonah Melinn
I was listening in to Talkshoe. Dale Karin Trowbridge is very, very upset with Bill. She was wrecking his chat room and Bill's train of thought. Her video has been removed (AMPP?), she said she donated $5k to the cause and now Bill has deserted her. Bill denied that she or any body else donated that kind of money, then threatened to call the police to complain about cyber stalking. She just kept on wrecking the show. That was funny, but otherwise show was boring, so I shut the program.
Dale Karin Trowbridge here and I am delighted that I was the most entertaining on talkshoe. However I have no intentions of listening to or commenting again, not worth my time. To repeat one of my comments “BULLSHIT BILL I HAVE A COPY OF MY CANCELED CHECK” and I am shaking in my boots fearing the police lol. However it is such a shame Bill is Bill because of all of the victims. I would tell you to go to “Lawless” and read my 13 year plus nightmare concerning family court but I have been erased.
@ Dale: thanks for commenting. I was not laughing at your pain or your struggle. It was amusing that you stumped Bill, "live" as it were, in front of people that follow him without question. My report on the show to the regulars on this blog was in no way meant to demean or minimize you.
You should talk to Gingersnap about maybe posting a copy of that cancelled check........
OMG if this wasn't so sad it would be funny, but it really is. Truth be told I am one of the many living in the hell of the "pie man" (please explain that little nickname?) Certain circles have come to like "BALL-LESS" America. This man is so unhinged he makes the real father rights fringe groups look like pre-school.
Pie man is because dude loves him some pies. google round America to read about his 2003 trip around the country eating 181 pies...
If you want a laugh, read on his lawless america site about his case going to the US Supreme Court, and then read the pleadings he filed. They contain gems like 'Bill Windsor is always right'
Hey let AMPP know if you want any screen shot etc. ....they even have a few memes you might want to share. I think that you are all on the right track no matter how fucking sad this all is. Make sure you let AMPP know I sent ya! GalPal
Dale Karin Trowbridge here and I am delighted that I was the most entertaining on talkshoe. However I have no intentions of listening to or commenting again, not worth my time. To repeat one of my comments “BULLSHIT BILL I HAVE A COPY OF MY CANCELED CHECK” and I am shaking in my boots fearing the police lol. However it is such a shame Bill is Bill because of all of the victims. I would tell you to go to “Lawless” and read my 13 year plus nightmare concerning family court but I have been erased. HAPPY NEW YEAR!
The AMPP women can't even fight their own battles?
ReplyDeleteLawless America American Mothers Political Party Private Message in response to a copyright infringement notice demanding immediate removal of Lawless America's copyrighted videos: Your "videos" are on YOUTUBE a public forum dingbat...why don't you go home and beat your dog or something instead of coming to this page and shovel your shit around. We get it..you don't like us and we sure the FxxK don't like YOU! BACK THE FxxK OFF or we will show you what a lawsuit is. Love, The Husband of one of the Admins of this page (American Mothers Political Party)."
And the turmoil continues this AM. Bill's supporters are trying to get their "hate" lists straight so they can unfriend the right people. Other supporters are trying to figure out who is posting under Bill's name - they just can't believe Bill would talk to people this way.
OMG what a mess. It's not like anyone could have guessed this would happen to such a fine mix of people.
Deletelol @Ginger's tangled web. Your blog is definitely going to be shut down for that one!
So David? What now? This time last year it was Barbara Farris, now Windsors gone. Maybe it's time to simply be a parent to Joey and stop the insanity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S7kg1IhZ7M
ReplyDeleteI thought this was an appropriate video. It involves pie and a cast of characters that fit this big story.
I did read on one of the offshoots of AMPP where they were attacking THE pie-king. "abuser" and "insane" were already used. By the end of the day, it should be quite a long list. I heard there is a blazer for sale in Texas...a few baked pies and it could be yours.
One is doing the "If you work with Lawless, change your password!" Funny funny stuff. Won't be long until Bill Windsor is part of the ring that Dauben was "exposing" or that Windsor works for Disney or has insiders that hack their computers or all of the above. Why is it anytime these idiots get angry with someone or don't like being confronted they always make claims that their enemy is hacking their computer and is never anything about them saying stupid crap that they regret?
ReplyDeleteSC
LOL, video is appropriate. Just cruising FB pages, I was thinking the same thing. NONE of these people take any responsibility for THEIR OWN decisions and behavior.
DeleteAs regards the AMPP women, I don't have a problem with advocates against domestic violence. However, I have no patience for women that continue a relationship and have children with a man they know to be violent. When the relationship ends, by what right do they cry foul and deny the children access to the fathers?
Same goes for Bill's group & Joey. I could go on all day about some of those people. Mary Whatshername has been "falsely" arrested 3 times?? She explained one of the arrests, wasn't really an arrest - she was detained, after running over a guy on a bike in her car. The accident was her fault, she got mad and antsy with the cop, who called for back up. He called for back up because SHE wouldn't let him do his job, which was to investigate the accident. Causes me to wonder what SHE did to cause the other 2 incidents.
Same here, I fully support advocates to stop domestic violence but when they basically use it as a vehicle with a hidden agenda, then I have no time for them. They make it harder for people that truly need help to receive any.
DeleteSC
With Mary, the others were in relation to her being taken to the ER for wellness checks, and an arrest for spitting on the officers doing a wellness check after she showed up at a SS Dr eval a day early and got angry with the building receptionist because she did not know where the doctor was and said well what if I were suicidal? The receptionist called it in.
DeleteThe other was IIRC from yet another wellness check because of stuff she posted on FB. There have been numerous trips to the er, and even a psych mandatory treatment of 25-30 days where they medicated her. She doesn't even take medicine for her blood pressure because she worries what it will do to her!? This woman is really in need of help. She is even angry they nolled charges(decide not to prosecute).
The accident arrest was in the newspapers, and her version is not the same as theirs. I read through months of her daily 'notes' and in some she admits how she acted, but mostly not.
This woman is currently banned from services at the dept. of labor, and veterans agencies among others. Some are repeat bannings. She has anger issues and yells at people a LOT.
As far as AMPP- umm yeah, they are a hate group even if they don't know it. I have listened to them on their broadcasts, and read their older website. All men accused of anything are guilty, and all moms should always have full custody.
Poor Mary. And, poor Gail or Karen - can't remember which, I think it was the one panhandling to get to DC. Whoever it was posted a suicidal note on LA today. She spoke as if it were someone else, but she was referring to herself. I'm wondering how Bill will react if one of these goes over the edge. Too bad Bill's mission isn't mental health services and benefits.
DeleteJoey and Presley are going to make it into the movie after all:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCwwbr0aWLU&feature=youtu.be
The fairy tale continues..........
LOL - first response to Bill's post on Joey:
DeleteGail Schumacher The only thing is that it is hard to process all of this. Some of this is all too confusing to follow in order to understand when and how, because there is too much.
I'm guessing the wheelie blazer is off the market now........
? Ok then ? At least David doesn't have to parent Joey now that Windsor is back in the picture.
DeleteI'll give Billy a month before he bans Joey after being convicted of molesting a child. No matter how you slice it, no one is going to support or back "The Movie" if the movie maker supports men who rape kids. Presley has sure learned the Daubenista language, that's quite the story.
Kind of off topic but this girl is what? 19 or 20 right? She sounds young but looks 35. wow
SC thought the blazer might be for sale since Presley's other video was pulled.
Delete" I heard there is a blazer for sale in Texas...a few baked pies and it could be yours."
I love how Presley skipped the part about what she did that caused her to leave her job. If I recall correctly, she wasn't fired - her hours were cut, so she quit.
I'm not so sure it will matter to Bill if Joey is guilty. The truth hasn't been an issue yet. Seems more likely a conviction would be used to "prove" just how corrupt TX is and how the government was successful in their conspiracy to "get" Joey. Because, he's so well known and all.
Gotta ask... anyone else read these 'walmart' bail conditions? second question - why would Joey be dismayed he couldn't walk past the toy or little kids clothing section?
DeleteIf this was something he was complaining to his fiancee, shouldn't warning bells be going off big time?
oops, my "ok then" comment was not about your blazer comment NBTDT (sorry)... I was referring to Billy putting up Joey's video but taking down Presleys. Lotsa common sense going on with Mr Georgia's leading litigant
DeleteThe battery must be dead in her warning bells. She's knows he's straight because after all, she's his girlfriend, she should know. But, we're probably being too hard on her - is she old enough to have warning bells?
DeleteI hadn't heard about the Walmart conditions before now, but kinda makes sense.
I also like the part where she blames bail revocation on MVZ. Nothing about how everybody on the planet knew Joey was on-line and/or posting by proxy.
yappy: sorry for my mistake. RE: Bill posting one but not the other video - maybe Presley renounced her allegiance to AMPP for Joey's sake. And, begged Daddy Bill.
DeleteNope, I was wrong. Presley just now figured out the plug was pulled on her other video:
DeletePresley Renae Dauben-Tuma Hey Bill, where's my congressional testimony? I'm trying to link some on my page & mine says its private!
Shoot, she missed the entire war!
Okay, I was posting on the other thread...The AMPP has a member who is posting links to many of Bill's vids, and has found one of presley's testimony on a site other than Youtube called frequency.
ReplyDeleteBilly better get right on that copyright infringement claim.
LOL about presley and warning bells...if she has any they are broken.
Looks like there will be a bit of McCarthyism going on in LA- they have the RAT squad looking for those RATS that infiltrated their world. There are also people swearing it was not Bill who posted, getting told umm yeah it was.
Don't know if I lost a post between the pages, but the Crystal Cox Bill picked as an editor(one of 4) is posting on the AMPP page about taking bill down, and is the same Crystal L Cox who was hooked up with Connie, and the same one who has a 2.4 million(IIRC) judgement against her, who calls herself an investigative journalist...she basically blackmails people into hiring her to clean up the crap she posts about them. Google her.
ReplyDelete'Crystal Cox
You are very right about Mr Bill Windsor. He is an evil man using poor mothers as his pawns fir personal gain. He only wishes to have his name in the headlines and his face on the top of the search engines alongwith his site, so he can make money. In addition he is notvery smart, as he has placed me as one of his editors. I will continue to remain on the moral side of the compass ans together we can bring down the corrupt william Windsor.'
Seems some have figured out Bill is a vexatious litigant LOL
ReplyDelete'Walk on with hope in your heart and you will never walk alone Did you just call me a liar Bill??? "https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=400738956672688&set=a.216617731751479.54078.100002097607567&type=1&theater" Your group has issues with liars Bill. My group has issues with libel. You may not be able to bring on any more lawsuits in the USA my members can. Why are you attacking abused mothers Bill? We thought you were going after court officials not their victims.'
And in another comment that sums up AMPP completely-
ReplyDelete'Sounds like the conversations going on in family court all over woman against man father against mother your fault not mine...who will put the children first?
4 hours ago · Like
American Mothers Political Party The mother will put the children first. She is the natural guardian'
They support no one but the mother getting full custody. They do not support grandparents unless it is the maternal grandmother only if the mother is deceased. No one but a mother can raise a child according to AMPP.
Not quite, they do not support pedos, or the parents of the pedos, I mean, they DID raise one! This is not an easy one size fits all "cause". They believe good mothers and fathers should have custody. They believe that battered women should have an easy time of leaving an abuser/molester safely without being stalked through family courts by their vexatious litigant abuser. But when the court system does actually work and the courts keep the pedo dad away from the child(ren) then Granny and Grandpa Pedo will fight for custody or visitation. Make sense?
Deleteto prove it is him posting, and not someone using his LA id, Bill was posting as himself last nite- to connie
ReplyDelete'Bill Windsor Connie, you know I think the world of you, but if you support this organization, you will not be in the movie or our videos. Just that simple. This group is misguided and is being run by misguided people, in my opinion. If anyone supports this group, simply do me the courtesy of emailing me at Nbodies@att.net to so advise me. I will remove your video from YouTube, and I will remove you from the movie. No need for further discussion.
19 hours ago'
I'm not supporting AMPP, but they do have a point. It's not their fault Bill didn't do his home work. Everything's been rocking along nicely, Bill even "adopted" Connie's BFF. He never indicated that he had any doubt that the problems these women caused for themselves were definitely a result of government corruption. Then out of the blue, WHAM - he attacks them for being who they are and who they've been the whole time.
DeleteThe other side of the coin is the FR groups. Well, they have their share of crazy and again Bill didn't do his homework. Case in point: somebody posted a link to a blog for statement made by Rik Little. I read the blog & comments - Rik's comments are so horrible, I won't re-post them. Then I watched his "testimony" to Bill. This a male version of Connie, only with the potential to cause physical harm. I didn't see any indication court corruption. I think any woman in her right mind should fear this man and the courts made the right decision in denying him custody of his kid.
But in all fairness Connie does have more teeth than Rik DICK Little
DeleteNEWSFLASH From Slimmy! ROFL - my hubby choked on his mashed taters when Slimmys text came in. Take a look, someone is calling da police on the meanie men-hating women.
ReplyDeleteLawless America These are extremely sick people. These people hate men, are anti-grandparent, and are apparently against just about anything. I will not allow anyone associated with their group in any manner to appear in the movie or participate in our efforts in any manner. They are like a cancer. I am filing a complaint with the police over the cyberstalking.
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Stephanie Lynn Okay I believe you. I'm not going to go investigate by going through their FB. But really all I saw was them talking about us. We can dislike them and not associate with them but let's not bash anymore. They're talking about us like we are bullies. I know it's not true but we aren't looking good by publicly trashing them and posting their info and messages.
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Lawless America Stephanie, sorry, but I will continue to expose these people. They are liars. They have libeled and slandered me repeatedly, and I will not allow people like that to do so without exposing them in every way possible. I plan to write a feature article about them on January 1. Claudine Dombrowski and Lorraine Tipton seem to be two of the ringleaders.
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Poor Billy is now using the very same system to go after the women HE agreed to video?
oopsie - using the very SAME system he loathes now to go after the ones he thought were victims.
DeleteSlimmy - I can't keep up with you. Damn you're the funniest Texan I've ever met, I'm going to have to share some of Slimmy-ISMS with the group in a bit.
Should be interesting when his Editor Crystal Cox gets involved in what he is writing. After all, she is going to take him down and all.
ReplyDeleteI do agree he is attacking these women who want out. The one about Donna Turkos (read up on her, wow she went through hell) and that other woman were pretty vicious with the comments. When billy gets his panties in a bunch, he believes in mob attacks. Cowards like him always like help.
On that post from Stephanie Lynn we now have Loryn Ryder weighing in. She claims she is not a member of AMPP
ReplyDeleteI bet Bill will re-instate her video, she did after all have the highest number of views on YouTube (a lot more than Connie). You need to ask nicer Loryn...mention pies ;)
Bill ought to say a little prayer and be thankful he has Stephanie Lynn and Karen Lester. These 2 are all he's going for him right this minute.
DeleteKathy Lester SAY NO TO PARENTAL ALIENATION PERIOD KIDS NEED BOTH THEIR PARENTS AND MANY END THEIR RELATIONSHIPS DUE TO CHEATING OR MONEY PROBLEMS BUT FORGET THEY CREATED AND WERE GIFTED THESE BEAUTIFUL CHILDREN FROM GOD INSTEAD THEY LET THEIR JEALOUSY AND ANGER SPEW INTO THEIR CHILDRENS LIVES that is abuse in itself...... However there are those real cases where the other PARENT SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO SEE THEIR CHILD EVER and those should only be founded when there is legally documented abuse.
I know what you mean NBTDT, he has another couple of his head people Allie and Lori that are at odds over this whole thing. They (other than the conspiracy theories one follows) seem like they are working hard to help, but one turned the other in for comments on a thread that lead to this whole blow up.
DeleteIt's all about power and control...and it is spreading. I haven't tried to figure out what their backgrounds are, but both are editors along with Crystal Cox. This just won't end well. Maybe there is a problem choosing who to be the head editor?
Gingersnap: just in case you are taking votes - I vote for this format and color. Easier on the eyes.
ReplyDeleteseems Bill has a testimonial up by Maria Melinn, but apparently her kids don't agree with it...Oh Bill, vetting is important..
ReplyDelete'Jonah Melinn The statements that Maria make are false, me and my siblings are not and never have been abused by Blake Melinn.'
I am Jonah Melinn, and what I stated was the truth, neither I nor any of my siblings have ever been abused by Blake Melinn, our father. He is a great father who does his best despite your best efforts to convince the world otherwise. You exploit ALL of us to spread your word and you abuse the fact that you have emotional control over Isaiah to make him claim false abuse as well. You are a sick individual and are not mentally fit to be a parent or a guardian of ANY children. If anyone has shown maltreatment of children it was you with your neglectful behavior, I think the problem you have with me is that I remember too much..not too little. Try to shut me up Maria, I'm not going anywhere.
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There is irrefutable evidence on record that Blake Melinn is an abuser. He was convicted of domestic violence for breaking his (now ex) wife's back, and there are numerous reports on file with CPS and the Grand Rapids Police regarding his abuse of the children. These reports are substantiated with evaluations by licensed psychologists, members of the clergy, and school and hospital personnel. Furhermore, Blake's mother and step-father are on record for violating child labor laws, putting Blake & Maria's children to work in their machine shop.
Deleterecall - Are you maria? Seems to me YOU fail to provide full information in order to color the picture. Such as, how many times did Maria call the police on her son, then 10 and 11 years old, in an attempt to put him away for the sin of wanting to spend time with the man he knew as his father? How many times was Maria found to have neglected Isaiah (think carefully: Bike, naked only diaper incidents)? How about the fact that Maria was arrested for DV as well after purposefully running into her ex-husband with a car - witnessed by her own children? This is just a touch of what we already know. Do you condone Michael's psychological torture? Do you dismiss his suicide? Are you is saying it is okay to assault another human behind with a two-ton piece of machinery? Seems to me you only share what you want known and not the WHOLE picture. But don't you worry, the FULL picture is about to be revealed.
DeleteShes basically on here calling her own kids liars....Everyone lies but you Maria hmm?
Delete"recalljudgecroninFebruary 11, 2013 at 1:23 AM
Delete....These reports are substantiated with evaluations by licensed psychologists, members of the clergy, and school and hospital personnel. Furhermore, Blake's mother and step-father are on record for violating child labor laws, putting Blake & Maria's children to work in their machine shop."
1. Isaiah would wash windows, the floor, simple things like that in the FRONT OFFICES at the machine shop. He was not allowed to go out back, and to be honest, he got paid handsomely for his less-then-back-breaking work
2. Since when does the clergy have any relevance? Maria is Jewish, remember?
Once again -Jonah Melinn
I was listening in to Talkshoe. Dale Karin Trowbridge is very, very upset with Bill. She was wrecking his chat room and Bill's train of thought. Her video has been removed (AMPP?), she said she donated $5k to the cause and now Bill has deserted her. Bill denied that she or any body else donated that kind of money, then threatened to call the police to complain about cyber stalking. She just kept on wrecking the show. That was funny, but otherwise show was boring, so I shut the program.
ReplyDeleteNext show in 6 mintues......
Dale Karin Trowbridge here and I am delighted that I was the most entertaining on talkshoe. However I have no intentions of listening to or commenting again, not worth my time. To repeat one of my comments “BULLSHIT BILL I HAVE A COPY OF MY CANCELED CHECK” and I am shaking in my boots fearing the police lol. However it is such a shame Bill is Bill because of all of the victims. I would tell you to go to “Lawless” and read my 13 year plus nightmare concerning family court but I have been erased.
Delete@ Dale: thanks for commenting. I was not laughing at your pain or your struggle. It was amusing that you stumped Bill, "live" as it were, in front of people that follow him without question. My report on the show to the regulars on this blog was in no way meant to demean or minimize you.
DeleteYou should talk to Gingersnap about maybe posting a copy of that cancelled check........
I guess he will be deleting her article on his website soon.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.lawlessamerica.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=841:battling-judicial-corruption-is-a-devastating-experience-for-tens-of-thousands-of-americans&catid=120:news-reports&Itemid=222
She didn't log on to the late show. I didn't last too long, Bill talks in a monotone. Made my head hurt.
DeleteYou are a great one NBTDT, taking another hit for the team!!
ReplyDeleteThese people are not playing with a full deck. I can't wait to see how this plays out with the LA editors fighting too.
OMG if this wasn't so sad it would be funny, but it really is. Truth be told I am one of the many living in the hell of the "pie man" (please explain that little nickname?) Certain circles have come to like "BALL-LESS" America. This man is so unhinged he makes the real father rights fringe groups look like pre-school.
ReplyDeletePie man is because dude loves him some pies. google round America to read about his 2003 trip around the country eating 181 pies...
DeleteIf you want a laugh, read on his lawless america site about his case going to the US Supreme Court, and then read the pleadings he filed. They contain gems like 'Bill Windsor is always right'
Hey let AMPP know if you want any screen shot etc. ....they even have a few memes you might want to share. I think that you are all on the right track no matter how fucking sad this all is. Make sure you let AMPP know I sent ya! GalPal
ReplyDeleteI'm ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteDale Karin Trowbridge here and I am delighted that I was the most entertaining on talkshoe. However I have no intentions of listening to or commenting again, not worth my time. To repeat one of my comments “BULLSHIT BILL I HAVE A COPY OF MY CANCELED CHECK” and I am shaking in my boots fearing the police lol. However it is such a shame Bill is Bill because of all of the victims. I would tell you to go to “Lawless” and read my 13 year plus nightmare concerning family court but I have been erased.
DeleteHAPPY NEW YEAR!
And by the way.. thats my real name. i live in des moines iowa.... come knock on my door
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