So the flood the courts event that was to take place on the 7th, and been moved to the 22nd, derives its power from its own issued document found here http://www.nationallibertyalliance.org/sites/default/files/Quo%20Waranto%20filed%203-24-14.pdf
Besides all the SovCit lectures, the sovereign People make the laws (repeat that 28 times), this call of action gives us a peek into what these Me the People groups feel is due process under their new made up law.
"YOU ARE HEREBY SUMMONED and required to answer, by paper, and IN PERSON this
endorsed summons in the New York Supreme Court, Columbia County, Courthouse; located at
621 State Route 23B; Claverack, New York, 12513; on the 7th day of April, 2014 at 9:30 AM;
Upon your failure to answer it will be interpreted as contempt of court and an admission of
willful intent engaging in criminal activity against the People of New York, an arrest warrant
will be issued and judgment will be taken against you for the relief demanded in quo warranto"
-In their new america, failure to appear isn't just failure to appear, its "and admission of wilful intent engaging in criminal activity against the People"
Well, so how about giving the accused a chance to properly prepare to defend themselves against these criminal charges?
"This is a common Law procedure executed Coram Nobis, the Magistrate has “NO” authority to
approve requests for time extensions or postpone said summons, grand jurist will be laying aside
all business and will be traveling from across the state, likewise is expected of the accused.
This procedure is for a show-cause to the criminal allegations presented by the extraordinary
writ, Quo Warranto, demanding that the Peoples’ stewards give account of their stewardship,
therefore “NO” motions will be considered, ANSWERS ARE DEMANDED."
-Nope, no time to prepare, no time to read up on your defense....you must appear at the date they supply and no motions will be granted for extensions.....for any reason.
Well what horrible crime have these public servants been accused of?
"New York Unified Common Law Grand Jury, hereinafter the People, come against the STATE
OF NEW YORK SUPREME COURT charging Jonathan Lippman, Fern A. Fisher, Lawrence
K. Marks, Barry Kamins, and Ronald Younkins for neglect to prevent conspiracy and felony rescue; concerning the indictments; against A. Gail Prudenti, Michael V. Coccoma , C.
Randall Hinrichs, Allan, D Scheinkman, Charles M. Tailleur, Michelle Carrol, and Terry
Wilhelm; hereinafter wrongdoers in this court of record proceeding according to the common
law"
-So these servants are accused of neglecting to prevent a conspiracy. So in their new america, you can be guilty of a crime by not stopping others from committing one.
Ok, so they have no time to prepare for these criminal charges at least they have the right to be represented by licensed and trained attorney?
"This is a common law proceeding, appearing before the People themselves, to answer to the
People the writ quo warranto, directed upon New York State Judicial Executive branch
servants: Personal appearances required, failure to appear will be consider contempt of court
and subject to arrest. Said servants have a duty to speak without attorneys."
-Can someone explain to me at this point how this differs from the Tribunal of the Holy Office of the Inquisition?
Well at least this is still some form of America, you are still at least presumed innocent until proven guilty right?
"If wrongdoers Jonathan Lippman, Fern A. Fisher, Lawrence K. Marks, Barry Kamins , and
Ronald Younkins confess that they have error and proceed to inform the sixty-two clerks of the
court to call upon the custodians of the courthouse to make provisions to receive the sovereign
People to their rightful place within the courthouse a reprieve from the said charges against them
will be granted. The sovereign People have no desire to seek out and prosecute past
wrongdoings, we desire only to look forward and work with our servants to heal our land."
-ummmm, you are supposed to call them the accused, calling them "wrongdoes" kinda tips your hand at just how fair this little trial is. So the deal is...."wrongdoers", if you bow to Me the People and turn over you duly appointed/elected office to the "People", we will drop the charges. What a deal!!!!
That's just a bigger version of Bill's offer to any "Joey" to escape his harassment.
ReplyDeleteThanks for making those points. I've been wondering just exactly how the accused judges are guilty of neglect and what conspiracy? Shouldn't the indictments and warrants include specifics? How will the accused even know what defense to present?
Sounds like a witch hunt.
I agree NBTDT, it does sound like a total witch hunt. So basically if you don't give them what they want, you are guilty. If you ignore them, you are also guilty. And this is better than the current Judicial system how? Perhaps for the ones who are butthurt, and are serving the frivolous papers, but not to those who are being served. They just get to make a claim against you, and that's it. No crayons needed.
DeleteAnd no lawyers. I think they pretty much shot the 6th amendment to death.
DeleteThey are enforcing the kings law. :-/ WTF How about Burger King law.
Deletewe should just drop all the game playing and get back to Hammurabi's Code
DeleteThe sovcits would probably be all in on the eye for an eye thing. But if I recall correctly Hammurabi's Code gives the benefit of presumption of innocence. We'd probably lose the sovcits with that one.
Deletethats true, the Babylonians were clearly ahead of the SovCit's when it came to a legal system
DeleteWhat about biblical law. I am sure they have broken some laws... Wait they are all Christian except the token Jewish guy who called in on Monday. They don't follow the laws given to the Jews under the covenant. Maybe that is the problem. No offense just being religiously correct.
DeleteI would like to form ONE citizen's jury, render a guilty verdict and impose a fit punishment on Bill Windsor and at least three of his zealots.
DeleteHow is what I'd like to do,
any different from what these 'groups' plan?
I like that idea. I'd put my name in the jury pool.
DeleteShe's about to get the Axe..not literally speaking..."Sharon Anderson: The opposition has succeded to keep you from exposing Judicial Corruption Take Care"
DeleteWe also stopped a movement that was going to outright attempt to execute politicians for Treason. Which would be murder under current law. Unjustified killings.
just to let everyone know i have the new and improved tin foil hat and it works sorry the only way to get it and trust me on this you need to buy a happy meal ........ if you supper size you get the david schied model with spring loaded rabbit ears, now i have had dinner on my way to see the king and i
DeleteIn other news the federal judge gave the smack down to bill in montana. After bill saying the judge was wrong in asking him to show he was not presenting a frivolous case and was not vexi, the judge told bill he's I charge basically and to answer his courtn ordered show cause by April 22
ReplyDeleteAllie why is it in your MO case your attorney never makes a hearing date what is the plan to hope to have it dismiss for nothing happening. Neither you not Bill have any hearing scheduled. You will never get a dismissal. My thoughts is that your broke wishing it is written off for no movement in the case. Lol good luck with that plan.
ReplyDeleteIf your insurance carrier reaches the limit they have set for representing you, in the case in Texas, and they do have a limit, will you then pay your current attorney yourself out of your own funds? Or will you go Pro Se?
DeleteWhat exactly should defendants without insurance do, in your opinion? Could you advise Allie and others as to how to proceed on a budget?
There is a reason for everything, Fleming. If you'd like to think it's because I'm broke, that's okay. I learned a very valuable lesson several months ago, that some things are better left unsaid in a room full of strangers. You do it your way, and I will do it mine. Your assumptions are wrong btw, but that's okay too.
DeleteSee anon she's not broke.
DeleteWindsor doesn't want to travel back to MO. He just likes to filed frivolous crap and then get angry nothing is being done, so he can file some other letter demanding something be done. He is the one who cancelled the last hearing. (citing a "medical issue") It doesn't cost anything to sit there, but it makes him feel better knowing he has all these cases going at once. Plus, once he gets into court, he will have to produce real evidence, and not the stuff he wrote up saying here, look at my evidence. Then the case will probably get dismissed and he won't have bragging rights anymore, and it will be one less case he can uses as an excuse for not finishing the "movie"
Delete"...it makes him feel better knowing he has all these cases going at once."
DeleteIMO, this is another example of paper terrorism - like substitution for the liens SovCits use to harass people. As long as the cases are pending it can effect other aspects of a defendant's life. I don't know if Allie owns a house (and don't care, just using this as example), but if she does and wants to change her home owner's coverage, she may denied and/or be subject to a higher premium by her current carrier. A pending case can adversely effect a back ground check for job or credit applications. There can be several effects that are unknown until the defendant runs into the problem.
I have no idea whether Bill intends to screw up other areas of his targets' lives, resulting issues may be inadvertent. But, IMO, it's not beyond Bill's level of knowledge and vindictiveness to anticipate the other issues that may arise. Having an insurance company paying for an attorney can cause a whole other set of problems that Fleming apparently hasn't encountered yet - hopefully, he won't. The point is, regardless of who is paying for attorneys or who is pro se, there are lot of reasons to dispose of something like this as quickly as possible.
"there are lot of reasons to dispose of something like this as quickly as possible." I agree completely. However, Windsor will not let this happen. I also agree with this being a part of the "paper terrorism" tactic. He locked everyone (even people who don't even know him) into these cases, without having to produce any tangible evidence. Then he stalls and stalls so he doesn't have to produce anything, yet, it's the defendants who's lives are stuck in the swirl of his frivolousness because he knows how to play the court game so well.
DeleteInteresting points NBTDT, I hadn't thought about these extra effects. And you have a point about the longer term effects of these frivolous suits. It makes the true point about why he needs to be legally named vexi.
DeleteYeah, its unfortunate, sad and it makes me angry that the stay in TX leaves the defendants' names "on the books", especially for the ones that had no idea of his existence. I hope the stay will eventually benefit all of the defendants and Bill's future targets. I think the whole matter is made worse in all of the states because Bill just doesn't play by the rules. It's like a horror movie, where the "it" just doesn't quit coming.
DeleteIt appears that while Windsor sidetracked or deviated from his plans to enact GJ plans, which is what he promised all his lemmings he would do after the DC "Notifications to act or else" letters were sent out, could all be part of his real agenda. I think he wanted to create a distraction that would be easily sold to the lemmings, so he didn't have to follow through.
ReplyDeleteHe said numerous times in his talkshoes, that DC wouldn't accomplish anything. But why didn't he follow through with his promises to start filing against everyone who ignored his "letters?" Nothing was preventing him from this, but himself. Same with the "movie." He chose to stop, but figured it would be an easy sell to blame the "haters." Now, in every lawsuit filed across the US by Windsor, he wants compensation for what he made a conscious decision not to do.
Now we have the majority of the lemmings jumping on the NLA bandwagon, because they are doing what Windsor promised, and chose not to do. Now, here is the question, are these frivolous lawsuits just another plot to chalk up more "they done me wrong" stories in Windsor's hall of vexi shame, for another round of "Revolutionary Party" members? (much like he milked the MOM case to gather people for LA?) After he watches Darash either succeed or fail, to know how to proceed? We all know Windsor is not a leader and simply hijacks other peoples works.
Good points. I respectfully disagree with Fleming's statement that "we" or anybody else stopped Bill. Bill stopped himself. I agree that there is an agenda larger than suing people that discuss him. Look at MT - he didn't get his way, so he filed complaints against the judges. Just like he did in GA.
DeleteLike Gingersnap said - wash, rinse, repeat.
This was a comment posted over on the NLA site:
ReplyDeleteAfter peaceful remedies are exhausted, we will come up against 'enforcement'.
I offer that as a separate branch, we will have to offer the same independent
enforcement.
There are 'offices' that have been vacant or never used in this area.
I hereby offer my services.
I hope I am found acceptable in this effort to serve.
Submitted by Drake on Sat, 03/29/2014 - 09:24
"drake" makes a valid point, at some point they are going to have to enforce their made up warrants......so will they hold hands and sing kumbaya or will they match law enforcement weapon for weapon?
Gosh. I hope "Cindy Marshall" aka sbharbison, aka nottryingtojoin, does not have a son in law enforcement working in Columbia Co, NY. I would hate for him to be at risk for protection people from criminal activity his mother supports.
DeleteYeah, that would be a real bad situation for the son.
Delete"Cindy Marshall" aka sbharison, aka nottryingtojoin, aka Snoozan. That mother of the year award will elude her for 2014, regardless what identifying tag she uses. She's a real stickler for "owning one's shit" and making certain it is labeled accordingly.
Just WoW.
I wonder if anyone gives out an award for the dumbest nicknames? Then again, maybe for her they aren't nicknames, they might be her "landmarks" for us.
DeleteHas SVG--AKA Snoozan ever once offered an instance of defamation posted on this blog? Has she ever owned any of her errors? Recall she didn't think anti-SLAPP could be argued against Windsor, but guess what, that's exactly what Barbara (Sean F's) attorney did. Oh but...after all, Barbara has only been an attorney and member of the bar for 20 or so years, so what does she know...(A whole lot more than you SVG!)
DeleteNope. She just points a knotty finger, with a general accusation, whenever something is said that she doesn't like. And she did argue about anti-SLAPP. When I brought it up, she pretty much told me I was clueless about the law and it's application in this case.
DeleteThe minute they advocate force:
DeleteWhoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
As used in this section, the terms “organizes” and “organize”, with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons
I think you have it nailed there....some seem to think it has to come to the gun drawn/fired moment before LE will move in, but they won't wait for that.
DeleteDarash said "we will blow the doors open in that courtroom" (yes thats a direct quote). His version is that they will peacefully seize control of that courtroom....it will still amount to "by force" even if they don't take in guns.
For anyone interested, that's 18 U.S. Code § 2385 ^^^
Delete@1:48: No one here has ever asked me to post an example of defamation from the blog. I would have declined such an invitation anyway.
DeleteHowever, on several occasions I tried to warn all of you about calling Windsor a terrorist. The responses were that it is your opinion and therefore it is protected. If I recall correctly, the "terrorist" comment was the main example given by the MO judge when he denied the first motion to dismiss. Go figure.
@Anon 1:48
Delete"Recall she didn't think anti-SLAPP could be argued against Windsor"
If in fact I made the statement that an anti-SLAPP can't be ARGUED against someone, that statement was clearly an error. A defendant can request dismissal under one or more of a few dozen legal theories. That doesn't mean the legal argument will have merit.
At some point in a defamation case the court has to make a decision about whether the complained of statements are fact or opinion (opinions are never actionable). The title of the motion does not change the answer to that question. The main difference between a regular motion to dismiss and a motion under the anti-slapp is that the winner of an anti-slapp automatically wins and award of costs and fees. In this case, that benefit is meaningless, though obviously Sean may as well try to get the award.
I hold no opinion on whether Sean's motion will succeed. I would need to see the statements that Windsor is complaining of in order to form an opinion. I haven't seen them yet.
Snoozan will defend those deemed any type of "terrorist" if she is SVG because of her direct relationship with one Shorty Davis who was allegedly arrested and investigated and convicted for a bomb threat which is a terroristic act. These types of people will dismiss and excuse any behavior that the FBI or others would classify as "Terrorist or Terroristic behaviors" because they need to feel justified in their actions as being somehow legal.
DeleteClearly Snooze doesn't have the slightest idea about all the aspects of Anti-SLAPP. Now she needs to see what was filed. Hahahahaha
DeleteEven reading, she won't comprehend, and in the end, she will say she knew it would go that way.
@1:05: I've seen it. I have NO idea how it will go because it depends on what Windsor offers by way of response. I think what you fail to understand is that the exact same argument made in the anti-slapp could have been made under ANY motion to dismiss.
Delete5:12 is a lying sack of doo doo. She was specific in attacking me during discussion of anti-SLAPP in June '13. She said I had no understanding of the law or what I read and it certainly DID NOT apply in any way to the complaints Bill would file. Her comments were deleted - but I found my responses.
DeleteNothingbettertodotodayJune 9, 2013 at 12:02 AM
Um, yeah Susan, if you read the anti-SLAPP statute it is exactly for this type situation.
NothingbettertodotodayJune 9, 2013 at 10:47 AM
Um, your crystal ball is apparently broken. You can't have any idea what I was reading so you are speaking out of your ass. As usual.
But, that's not the real issue now, is it? Why are you so intent on insulting me?
I'm not going to argue about what you THINK I said almost a year ago. I will tell you that the kinds of statements Windsor is likely to complain about will fall into a few different categories of defamation.
DeleteThis is the extremely complicated part of defamation law and I'm not going to try to explain it. It has to do with:
1. opinions v. facts
2. whether the statements concerned a public figure, a limited purpose public figure, or a private person.
3. If the plaintiff is a limited purpose figure, some statements can be subject to different levels of fault than others.
Arguing those three questions and reaching a decision is the most complicated part of the lawsuit for the parties and the court.
I don't make mistakes like forgetting who harassed me, how and what was said. This about your behavior, not the law.
Delete"This is the extremely complicated part of defamation law and I'm not going to try to explain it. "
DeleteHa! Because you can't.
As for your list and conclusion--thank you very little for posting these COMPLETELY OBVIOUS points about the case.
NB @ 8:05-- Well stated.
@11:39: "thank you very little for posting these COMPLETELY OBVIOUS points about the case."
DeleteIf those points are obvious to you then you should be able to explain to nb why an anti-slapp won't cover all of those categories. I will leave it in your capable hands!
Yo, Snoozie, we all know what's going on, it's you that needs some education. But hey, keep your nose shoved up Windbags ass and away from this blog. The adults are busy with important things you will never understand.
DeleteYes, the adults are busy defending themselves against law suits. I understand that perfectly.
DeleteYup...a vexatious litigant like you would.
DeleteWHAT A COMEBACK! It makes perfect sense too! OUCH!
DeleteIt does make perfect sense! What doesn't make sense is the fact that you Snooze- came over here, looking to expose Windsor. You wanted everyone here to post up all the things that would out Willy.
DeleteYet, you yourself refused to post up what you had. You made vague, blanket statements with zero proof or links to back up your claims. Then you demand that we do, at the same time you state you don't look at the links, and you defend your Willy. Then you make a statement that it's a game. So, your tendencies to be supportive of Vexatiousness is quite clear.
It has nothing to do with merit of a case for you types, it is all about how much of an annoyance you can be to others. You people get satisfaction just by being vindictive and harassing people using the courts. You said it, and keep proving it by everything you do and say. You're all sick!
Anon 8:48: AnonymousApril 7, 2014 at 8:48 AM
Delete"Yet, you yourself refused to post up what you had. You made vague, blanket statements with zero proof or links to back up your claims."
Are you new or do you have memory issues? I did post what I "had" about Windsor. Then I opened a bulletin board for the SOLE PURPOSE of posting the information at a PUBLIC location that was within my control. T
"Then you demand that we do, at the same time you state you don't look at the links,"
I don't look at links that go to homemade cartoons, videos, etc. I look at all of the links that go to websites with serious information about Willy. What part of that do you have trouble understanding. Excuuuuuuse me if I don't feel like looking at your "satire", lol.
"Then you make a statement that it's a game."
Taken out of context, I don't know what it is that I called a game.
Oh my...snoozies mental issues are playing havic with her memory again. Please re read: you offered only blanket statements with zero proof. You posted no links, only your statements of facts that you didn't like that he got to name the organization GRIP. Wow, you are demented.
DeleteNo, you stated you do not go to links period. You did not say anything about what links you did visit and constantly asked for us to post the court documents here, because you didn't go to the "links" to them.
Again, sidestepping, and selective memory issues about what you say here doesn't work. That Snoozie is yet another one of your "games."
Again, I am not willing to discuss unsupported claims about what I said here in the past. If you want to cite to the material I will certainly own any errors I made.
DeleteI'm not sure what you think I was supposed to "prove". My historical accounts of "GRIP" were obviously my own account of what I saw happening. The "GRIP" forum was deleted and that was where the discussions took place.
I wonder if this group is looking for an experienced Regional Director...?
ReplyDeletelol.....with lots of "special" connections
DeleteFabulous idea, Spammy. MI appears to be wide open. And I didn't see neglect of elders in the quo warranto. Marty has work to do!
DeleteHe's making great inroads with a woman running for Lt Governor in Michigan this week...
DeleteBut...but...what about the FBI? Did Marty resign?
DeleteDidn't pass that damn annual aptitude test.
Deleteor the physical
Delete...or the physical aptitude test, aka "peeing in a jar."
DeleteOr peeing in a sewing box...
DeleteReaders of his blog know what I'm talking about.
Some folks posting here are referring to Snoozan as SVG. I have no idea if Snoozan is SVG and don't really care. But as she is intent on harassing the people on this blog, referring to me by a name that somebody pulled out of his/her butt and I having nothing better to do this morning, figured I would Google SVG. OMG. There are a lot of similarities between SVG and Snoozan, also between Windsor and SVG. IMO, it's not a stretch to suspect SVG is Snoozan.
ReplyDeleteSVG's vexi-ness appears to have started in 1994 - this is a 20 year battle that started with an injury claim which was lost with summary judgement. Then on to suing attorneys. Then on to COA, SCOTUS and a petition for judicial review. A 3rd request for judicial review was filed 4/9/13.
SVG takes suing judges to a new level. She states the denial of her petitions is a hate crime, a violation of her civil rights and the punishment for this crime is life in prison or death. Oh, and she wants her filing fees refunded.
http://www.secretjustice.com/secretpdf/TITLE%20IV.pdf
http://www.occupythelaw.com/PDFs/Third%20Request%20for%20hearing%20Internet%20PDF.pdf
Well done, NB. I'm the Anon who uses her initials to reference Snoozan, and there are several here who have known her real ID for a while. Let's just say she lives near a city named after William of Orange's spouse. Also, note she's never denied the ID--even when her first name was referenced here.
DeleteIMO, it says volumes about our character verses hers---we at least try to respect her anonymity even though she continues to troll on this site.
I meant to write "she lives near a city in a state named after William..."
DeleteAlso, the reference is a clue and not a historical fact.
Well, in interesting timing of events or coincidence one SVG resigned from her "director" position at "MCS" Beacon of Hope Foundation in 2008 (a quote about her departure "... has decided to channel her talent and energy into pursuing a mission that, if successful, will be of great value to our community." LOL or is that "take our country back" ) which would seem to fit the time she may have joined Windsor in the formation of GRIP.
Delete@11:59 - good point
Delete"it says volumes about our character verses hers---we at least try to respect her anonymity even though she continues to troll on this site."
I would not have been interested enough to know her background and I would have continued to respect her anonymity if she had quit harassing people that post here. Just like Bill, she fails to understand that the 1st Amendment is applicable to everyone.
I have never been interested enough to know who anyone is here.
DeleteRespected my anonymity? Right.
Sure, like you haven't repeatedly called me by a name you think is me. Just think - you are in complete control of this situation. Go away like you've been asked and nobody will care who you are and why you are harassing people.
DeleteThe speculation regarding the names of people here has been widely reported elsewhere. I didn't ferret out the information and I didn't break the news.
DeleteYou will proceed as you see fit and I will do the same. It is what it is.
Yep, just like speculation of your name was widely reported. Nope, maybe you didn't ferret out and break the news. But you are playing the game instead of acting on the good sense God gave you.
DeleteAs far as I'm concerned it's a given that if you engage in frequent communication with or about enemies, your identity will eventually be exposed. I've seen it happen to some people that are far more savvy than the GENII. The only real question is the extent of the exposure. It can quickly become a Hatfield and McCoy situation.
ReplyDeleteGiven the right motivation someone can get very serious about ferreting out a staggering amount of information about an enemy. When they run out of things to post about you, they turn to posting every bit of information they can find about all of the people closely to you. How far this game goes depends on both sides but from what I've seen, once it starts it doesn't stop because each side is always in the process of paying the other back.
It never ceases to amaze me that Windsor has refrained from playing the exposure game, given the extent of what was done to him by the GENII. But I digress. My point was to provide some food for thought. You play the exposure game at your own risk.
WTF are you babbling about with regards to "Windsor has refrained from playing the exposure game?"
DeleteSeriously your mental issues are becoming so apparent. Windsor has repeatidly posted personal information about people he "suspects" of being someone he was told was a "hater." He had zero confirmation and his numerous calls to sleuths to obtain names, addresses and social security numbers was by far the most intrusive anyone could have even done on a Facebook post to how many ever "Friends" he has on numerous pages he operates.
Get a fricken clue troll. You are part of the outings of innocent peoples names and you know it. So STFU.
"It never ceases to amaze me that Windsor has refrained from playing the exposure game, given the extent of what was done to him by the GENII."
DeleteThat's got to be the STUPIDEST sentence I've ever read on this site.
PS -- Billy didn't have a good week in Montana, but then again, you must have magically gleaned that from all your fantasizing about sitting on his lap.
As I wrote previously...Better GENII than ANII.
Deleteget your tin foil hat while they last sold burger king in montana ,and michigan use code words super size it get extra one free tell;em Dave sent you
DeleteI would have thought the Dave special would be the small size.
DeleteAnons 2:27 : You see Windsor's name and lose all perspective on the actual message, lol. smh
DeleteThe actual point I was making sailed right over your empty heads, lol.
"As I wrote previously...Better GENII than ANII."
DeleteIf I had any idea what that means I might be amused. As it is, I am just confused!
for tight fit you will need 4 self taping screws drill .most of all do not forget to demagnetize your forehead
DeleteAs you are soooo much more intelligent than we, why don't you try another blog to troll, say MENSA or the MENSA Qualified Society (to which Windsor is a purported member)?
Delete"Stupidest" isn't a word...
DeleteR E F R A I N E D ???
DeleteWindsor has refrained?
Oh
My
Gawd
Whoever Snoozie, Snoozan, Susan is? She's far from stupid, that is apparent. She is biased, judgmental and on a quest.
R E F R A I N E D
Windsor does not have a 'refrained' anywhere within him.
Enemies???? That's the problem with all the SovCit and vexi types. They think if anyone disagrees with them it makes them THE "enemy". What Bill and SVG fail to realize is that NOBODY is obligated to agree with anything they say or do. It's their antagonistic, bullying behavior that eventually causes them to perceive they have enemies. Self fulling prophecy, IMO. If they can't intimidate you into adopting their ideas, you become their enemy and a target for harassment.
DeleteAnd from exactly what has Bill refrained?
The Anon 12:08 post was not about Windsor, lol. If you understood the post you would understand WHAT IT IS I am saying Windsor has thus far refrained from doing.
DeleteIf you don't understand the post, it won't do me any good to spell it out for you. So for once, I think I WILL REFRAIN, lol.
You and Windsor have not refrained from stalking, harassing and attacking people that disagree with your way of thinking. What you are too dense, or sick, to understand is nobody here needs to know any more than that about how either of you refrain. As for any games, that is all Bill, you and others connected to Bill. Projection, again.
DeleteI would like to order a double dose of whatever it is Snoozan aka Snoozie, aka SVG is prescribed! Whatever IT is? and the dosing she does consume? makes her have some wild Olympic Conclusion Jumping abilities (lowercase c, Petunia) AND then, she begins ASSuming that she possesses great knowledge on many subjects!
DeleteThat? is some good sh*t. Everyone that reads or comments here should get to try some of it!
If anything? SVG is wordy (probably gets that from her Willy). I read once, that she'd argue with a fence post. I didn't understand that statement then, but I certainly do now! Anything! Literally anything! She will comment, make a rebuttal, argue, taunt, etc, etc just merely to be engaged in some sort of communication with anyone, even those she perceives to be beneath her (everyone).
Is is FacePalm Sunday again? Already?
Snoozan's little "Hatfield and McCoy" tip, isn't a news flash by any means. Everyone knows McCoy is a fake profile and who it belongs to, and why they are feeding Windbag names. We know many fake names on Windbags FB that belong to people he may think are real, but aren't, and are actually....well, he'll just have to stop snoozing and figure it out on his own.
DeleteYeah, that real "McCoy" gets a lot of Joy outta Bill, probably Snoozers, too.
Delete#gamers #namers #framers
One of Windsors relatives has responded to informational email requests with great information. Requests are being made to Karen Jutkiewicz, Susan Harbison, Nancy Evans, Sharon Stephens, Janice levison, Marlene Debek, Liz Radmore, Doottie Laforune, Julia Fletch, and others who are suspected to have gathered personal data and information and help Lawless America.
ReplyDeleteI'm going to send out requests too! I think I'll try the FBI and see what they can tell me.
ReplyDeleteA list of names Bill has domains for:
ReplyDeletewww.seanboushie.com
www.allieoverstreet.com
www.brannonbridge.com
www.stacyemerson.com
www.claudinedombrowski.com
www.lorrainetipton.com
www.MarkSupanich.com
www.MichelleStilipec.com
www.SamRound.com
www.SHANNONEMILLER.COM
www.CASEYPHARGROVE.COM
www.brandyowen.com
www.meganvanzelfden.com
www.seandfleming.net
www.KellieMcdougald.com
www.betsibendix.com
www.melaniewhite.net
www.cherylsosby.com
www.kimberlywigglesworth.com
www.shondahargrove.com
Yeah. There are 20 examples of "refrained".
DeleteNotice the shondahargrove.com going to Alcatraz Media. Here is one thing, I have already called some news stations. I am going to Dog Alcatraz Media until they call me and turn it over to me.
DeleteMew Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vzLZNXJ35w
DeleteDid y'all see what Bill posted on FB publicly? He made this statement, along with posting names: "I will be doing a lot of depositions of friends and family members as they are more likely to tell the truth."
DeletePosting threats and plans for action on this blog will do nothing but antagonize and escalate the situation. Bill is too blind and driven to see that his actions have involved his family (now ex-family). He has absolutely no sense of decency when it comes to attacking people that have nothing to do with this blog and people that have not committed any offense against him. Now he threatened to harass everybody connected to his targets.
People that are named in his complaints should do whatever it is they feel is necessary to fight back and/or get out of the law suits. But for crying out loud - do it privately. Asking for information from S. Anderson and N. Evans is every bit as ridiculous as Bill saying he will schedule depositions in TX. Please let Bill look like a fool all by himself.
Good thing he's refrained from harassing anyone!
DeleteThe posts he makes to the lemmings are so funny when everyone who isn't sipping the Vexi-aid knows the truth. Spin Windsor, spin. Keep going down your Vexi-vortex
DeleteI already have screenshots and proof to provide that Alcatraz Media is hosting the sites. if you want to contact me at seandfleming.k8khz@gmail.com about joining a multi person lawsuit and also file multiple UDP compaints with ICANN to release the names to you, then let me know I am also working on a possible news story from an atlanta news agency.
ReplyDeleteI would love to see a news story on this internet war. If you can get the media to take an interest good for you. I don't see it happening though. I think this scenario is much more common than any of you realize.
DeleteIt is not "news" that a handful of people are engaged in an internet war that has spilled into the courts and people's private lives. A shocking outcome such as that $14,000,000 verdict (which was later vacated) makes the news, but the details of the war that led to that verdict are of no interest to anyone.
I doubt that Anon, A company who has millions in the tour business tied and supporting a anti-government sovereign Citizen movement is more of the story.
DeleteSean, I know you won't take my word for this but have you actually asked the GENII what they think about your chances of going after Alcatraz or any of Windsor's family?
DeleteFor some reason you don't bother me as much as the rest of them. I sincerely hate watching you putting so much energy into an absolutely pointless mission. Find some people you respect and who know at least a little about the law and ASK THEM.
Ya Sean, don't ask your attorney...you know ...the one who's wiping the floor with Butthurt Billy so far...the one who has a JD from Tulane and multiple other credentials, eg, a Martindale-Hubbell 5.0 peer rating and is the managing principal of her firm's Houston office. Why ask her when you have SVG to answer all your legal questions from here--straight off the Internet thingy???
Deleteright on 7:42
DeleteThat is why she is paid the big bucks
DeleteLook out Sean, SVG has commenced to vampin' you...she may want you for her own lap top.
DeleteCybersquatting
Deletehahahaha
DeleteBump ^^^
Delete"...but the details of the war that led to that verdict are of no interest to anyone."
DeleteWrong. "Anyone" must be defined as any of her associates. It's the people that aren't interested in the background of a situation or case that are yelling there is so much corruption in the courts that it justifies an over throw of the government.
Anon @7:14 April 5,2014? Puhlease! speak for yourself. Broadbrushing with an air of superiority is the way that comment was the tone of your comment (IMO). Flemming and his attorney, in addition to the attorney(s) hired by Google are giving Willy a "Thrash-ing" (pun intended).
DeleteI am V E R Y interested. I agree that there are many other people that would find a story of a 'tour' company supporting an anti-government Sovereign Citizens movement extremely interesting.
Just because supporters of Windsor and these other anti-government Sovereign Citizens Movements' participants don't want their involvement and activities being exposed, does NOT mean it isn't of interest to many others.
If these GENii are so silly, stupid and insignificant, why is it the omnipotent Willy have failed so miserably, thus far? It would seem to me, and others, that if Willy and his movement were so above board and had their platform of reform/taking their country back/exposing judicial corruption had any validity? It could have withstood this obscure little blog's (and the commenters') scrutiny and the opinions on that same blog. Just saying. Hope that helps.
Well stated, Anon 12:18.
DeleteBilly's about to be "Lynched" too. Why is it that Billy and SVG are the only ones who think Thash's permanent order is void? Let's take a quick roll: Larson, Carroll, Lynch, and Thrash himself. Then there's the MT Supremes and the DC Appellate Court--all these courts have taken Thrash's order seriously, so why the dispute?
Also, why is SVG silent on Billy's Ellis Co. suit? Does she think he's nailed the subject-matter and personal jurisdiction issues? Seems she only wants to criticize us and not him, and I find that both troubling and telling.
@anon 12:54: "Also, why is SVG silent on Billy's Ellis Co. suit? Does she think he's nailed the subject-matter and personal jurisdiction issues? Seems she only wants to criticize us and not him, and I find that both troubling and telling."
DeleteIn a different forum I would undoubtedly be commenting on the entire circus. But the people on this blog can't understand objectivity and they certainly don't try to be fair and objective to anyone. It doesn't make sense to offer a balanced view to people that never show any interest in balance.
You need not be troubled, lol. Everyone here already knows more about the law than me. I have to assume they already know everything there is to know about the TX suits and there is no sense in my stating the obvious!
Well, I'll go ahead and state the obvious yet again: as you're a troll, there's no sense of you being here and posting--none at all.
DeleteLOL by all mean$ a$k your atty if you can afford to $ean. But really, I think even the average person familiar with this case knows you have no claims against Alcatraz.
ReplyDeleteLMAO really? How interesting. I guess the fact that Windsor wants money because he says his family will have nothing to do with him because of "haters", yet he is still allowed to use his son's company to stalk, harass, slander etc those he deems "haters" is invalid? Good to know. Guess the fact that it is Bill who responds to complaints made to say, the BBB for Alcatraz, instead of the actual owner Ryan, is also meaningless? Guess it's only Bill that can sue companies like Google for their alleged involvement in "crimes" because it is only Bill that has crayons. Thanks Anon, for clearing that up!
Delete::rolls eyes::
Deleteso bill do i get paid to be a hater against you and lawless? you'll never know lolololol
ReplyDeletebeing honest there are voices in my head that suggest and instruct me to blog. i believe i am a victim of v2k.
ReplyDeleteMe too. What is it?
DeleteCan I have more?
Both my voices wanna know.
Bill decides he will get around the Stay, by trying to have people deposed in another court:
ReplyDelete04/04/2014 Correspondence Sent
to Pro Se Plaintiff.
Subpoena Requested
Deposition Subpoenas are requested.
Filed By: WILLIAM MICHAEL WINDSOR
Filing:
Pro Se Plaintiff files Request for and Notice of Admissions.
Filed By: WILLIAM MICHAEL WINDSOR
Notice to Take Deposition
Pro Se Plaintiff files Notice to Take Deposition of Clyde Hargrove on 4-17-14 at 10:00 AM and of Casey Hargrove on 4-17-14 at 1:00 PM. (deponents were excluded from Certificate of Service)
Filed By: WILLIAM MICHAEL WINDSOR
Oh cool! Billy's got a hankerin' for filming a room full of empty furniture again. He's so good at it now, and that's because he does it more often than the publicity staff at Rooms to Go.
DeleteDeponents were excluded from CS? Kinda like I was excluded from this admissions thing mentioned? He's a rocket scientist, I tell ya. [Hey Bill? Send me the admissions thingy, k? Certified mail, please. K. ]
DeleteYa kinda got to hand it to the ol' boy...he's true to form--double down and all in--even on an action which may lead to a federal contempt charge.
DeleteI say "GO BILLY GO!" You're gonna get to meet Raylan Givens real soon!
Allie it has been over a year and not just one motion to dismiss. Why are you lolly gagging around with this guy? I am starting to think you like his attention since that is the only person that pays attention to you.
DeleteYes, Fleming, you're so right. That's exactly what it is. You should be an investigative blogger or something. Do your own show. I don't know, something so the whole world knows how smart you are.
DeleteMaybe Allie has not been interested in spending what you are spending Sean. According to your affidavit, your costs and fees as of Feb. 24 come to a little over $13,000 . Your atty. expects her future monthly fees for the litigation to be approximately $5,000-$7,500.
DeleteI would not spend $13,000 to defend against a petition that fails to state a claim, but hey that is just me.
Ditto Anon @8:19. Word for word, ditto. The armchair-ing Willy litigator & those not paying their own attorney's fees directly? Are brimming with shoulda, woulda, couldas for others.
DeleteFlemming's attorney is just as badass as her creditials! (and nice person, by the way, so is Google's attorney). Not only does Willy's litigious past whoop his own ass, but a gaggle of female attorneys aren't doing too shabby in Texas.
Maybe Flemming could conference with Allie's counsel and give him some pointers?
Damn. Some 'people' don't have a stfu no where in them.
Do I have to remind people that Allies Attorney is suppose to be some huge Bad ass guy, http://youtu.be/8fSCnmL0WiE he is some attorney who is always on fox giving legal analysis.
DeleteLololol...my council is awesome. Kinda marches to a different drum than a lot of lawyers. Very good at what he does. (I do enjoy the ladies wiping the floor with Bill in their writings though) We just have something a little different in mind is all. He's doing just fine, thanks. No pointers needed, eye yey yey, we have enough facepalming as it is.
DeleteThere are many different strategies available to litigants. Flemings atty is going for the one that is going to pay her the most which makes sense since she's going to be paid by an insurance company. It is not a "better" strategy, it's just different.
DeleteI think some people here are under the STUPIDIST misconception that every defendant can or should do the same thing. This only confirms how little they know about what is happening. IDIOTS.
I think you're under the misconception that anyone here cares about your opinion. TROLL.
DeleteI have to say that one of the funniest things I see here is this "TROLL" accusation. Seriously, why would anyone care about such name calling? smh
DeleteBill didn't learn any lessons from his stalking trip to MT. Since he can't get any body named in a law suit to play deposition with him, he's going to just barge into the business of people that are not named as parties in any of the complaints. I'm not re-posting the whole thing because Bill in his attempt to harass and intimidate, has listed the names of what looks like an entire family. Here's the plan:
ReplyDelete"It should be exciting. The depositions are scheduled in Red Oak at Hargrove Real Estate's offices"
I hope the people responsible for throwing these people into this mess are happy. Is this the result they were looking for?
DeleteI hope the people that think they are so clever about playing Bill with names are sick over what they've done. Except for Wynette Boushie, Bill has not bothered the families of any the people doling out names. If this was the intended result they are further off the scale crazy than Bill, IMO. I hope Karma finds them quickly and they never find peace in their lives.
DeleteSeriously? This is what he thinks is justified? Just to assume something, based on nothing tangible other than some "information" he received from fake facebook accounts? I hope he gets arrested or at the least, a warning from the police about trespassing, and harassment. Unfrickenbelievable.
DeleteIt's not too late for the name droppers to make try and make it right. They could let Bill know they gave him names they pulled out their butts because they were angry the people on this blog wouldn't swallow their crap either. They can use the same fake names to fix it as they did to "inform" Bill. Tell him information provided to him earlier regarding people posting under screen names is incorrect. They risk nothing in correcting their errors. If there was an ounce of decency in any of the players, that is what they would do before this gets more out of control.
DeleteAlso, since he's manipulating court cases and all, and using the MO case for depositions since the TX one is stayed, and all depositions are Quashed, I thought that in the MO case as well, he couldn't do any depositions since he didn't follow proper procedure for something. He was denied by the court for "Non compliance."
DeleteIMO, Bill expects to fail. The whole point of this effort, by Bill and the name droppers, is to harass and intimidate. Anybody that refuses to play their game is subject to attack. And it's OK for them to blast whatever they want to say ALL over the internet. Are the judges, attorneys or ex lemming spouses suing Bill and his lemmings in 5 states because of what he said? Or the sites they own?
DeleteThis smacks of extortion attempt. The only way to escape their harassment and intimidation is to either say the things they want to hear or not say anything at all.
"Marty Prehn- If it is at his office know that they will be videotaping it for court and you should too and have it date and time stamped to prove if anything has been omitted."
Delete"Bill Windsor- Yes, I have served notice that it will be videotaped as well as given before a court reporter".
Uh, right, and by "Served Notice" he means he sent an uncertified letter, not a court ordered subpoena, because he is trying to get around court rules.
I agree with your opinion NB, that it's all about threats, harassment, intimidation, based around a huge extortion attempt for multi-millions. Windsor appears to be doing nothing through the legal channels right now, and taking it all upon himself as if he were enacting a SC type stunt.
" The only way to escape their harassment and intimidation is to either say the things they want to hear or not say anything at all."
DeleteThat sums Windsor up pretty well, I think. He said that the dad was his long time good friend and a good man. I find it odd he's now going to sue the guy or at least throw his name around in a bad light and do a supposed depo on him. Funny though, no depos are happening in the MO case just yet. Only the requests. Maybe they agreed and invited him to their office? Or maybe Windsor is just lying again? I'd actually like to do a depo with him at this point. Cross question him, and do his depo directly after mine. Get the shit over with. He's such a joke that the intimidation factor is gone for me now. The MO court is no more impressed than Georgia or Texas.
Everything he does seems like it is for Facebook show and his weird self serving pats on the back. Kinda like teens take a hundred selfies in the mirror every day and post them up. To get the likes, and comments, saying they look good. Fishing for compliments with a twist of vengeance. Leave it to Windbag, to ruin an alleged lifelong friendship to get some internet atta boys from seemingly delusional strangers. SMH. As anti psychologist as I am, the guy could use some meds and a full diagnostic work up. And a nice room with a view.
Friend?
DeleteThat loser m-fer ain't never had a 'friend'. Like every single other thing he's ever 'posted', he embellishes. Friend? Pfffft. Acquaintance, maybe? Just because you know someone, does not make them a "friend".
He's gonna pop in & play "Let's Take A Deposition" somewhere someday & see what's begin door #3, I personally hope. He gonna bring Aagent DoucheCanoe for his security detail?
Room with a view? How's about a padded, barred and locked cell?
DeleteYou know, SVG is exactly the same as Windsor. She claims Windsor has been repeatedly defamed on this blog, yet when she is ask to provide the examples, she can't or won't. She reminds me of my youth and the kids in grammar school who would make wild boasts, eg, that they've got a rare, valuable baseball card or some other bit, yet when asked to produce it, they can't --there's always an excuse hanging on the end of the claim.
Remind you of anyone?
I don't follow the Texas or Kansas suits, but in Missouri there ARE no depositions at this time and there haven't been any the entire time.
DeleteI know I never had to do a depo because Windsor didn't go by court procedure or a timely fashion. Boushie never had to because of personal jurisdiction and non party. Supanich never had to because of personal jurisdiction. Google doesn't have to because of non party. Regardless, Bill ASKED for depo subpoenas and gave notice of depos. That's different than actually obtaining and carrying out. I'm confused about the 150 mile rule. Guess I will go look it up again and look up non party depos while I'm at it, lol. ;-)
For people who THINK they know all there is to know about litigation, I am confused by their insistence that trolling is acceptable behavior.
DeleteThe baseball card....perfect analogy.
Deleteso the subpeonas were actually denied, from what I heard so I guess in response to that he decides he will do it anyway, and Susan is just a tramp
Deleteya, so the ones named above would also not have to, cause of the same reason Boushie didn't have to
DeleteWithout bugging my atty, I binged that shit. So ya, he can depose non parties if all parties agree or if he gets granted subpoena after parties object and he motions the court. So, pretty much a snowball's chance in hell. He also had to include all parties in the C of S or it's for not. At least that's what Bing says, lol. Besides, he's full of shiz and just likes his lemmings and haters to talk about it a lot.
DeleteDisclaimer: (in my best Richard Nixon voice) I am not an attorney.
It's like he's a magician. Here, look at my right hand, I'm waving it all around with my magical papers....don't look at my left hand behind my back, it's the one with all the denials.
DeleteJust curious, but did Billy ever get his broken "Billy Button" fixed or is he saving it for court...er...as an excuse to show in court?
DeleteWas it ever even real to need fixing?
DeleteLOL @ Billy Button.
DeleteNope, he's still holding that surgery card for a later extension date I am sure. It's the only thing he's got in his extension excuse bag right now.
@anon 11:55:
ReplyDelete" yet when she is ask to provide the examples, she can't or won't."
WON'T. What in the world makes you think I would give you that kind of information? What don't you get about the fact that I am not here to HELP the GENII?
Your baseball card analogy fails. There would be no reason for the kid with the card to refuse to produce it.
I have plenty of reason to withhold information.
Btw, if you look waaaaay back to when Allie got sued, I SAID that the statement in the petition that was going to give her the most trouble was the terrorist statement.
Delete
Delete"There would be no reason for the kid with the card to refuse to produce it. "
That's hysterical. Do you use that argument in your vexatious pleadings much?
@12:36: I've never been involved in any baseball card litigation so I guess the answer would be, no.
DeleteI think it's more of that "the tramp" can't produce the defamation, it's easy for her to say she "won't" cause saying she can't would make her look stupid
Delete"I SAID that the statement in the petition that was going to give her the most trouble was the terrorist statement. "
DeleteN.Y.App.: Calling Someone a Terrorist Online is Non-Actionable Opinion
Technology & Marketing Law Blog (Eric Goldman) Here the court- without reservation- says the online reference doesn't have the obvious serious implications that normally attach to being a "terrorist".
http://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2012/12/calling_someone.htm
QED.
PS-- Henceforth, I will observe a strict 'don't feed the troll' policy.
I hope others do the same.
@1:46: Interesting. I'll look at the case when I have time.
DeleteI will say though that a terrorist accusation would have to be evaluated in light of the context. In other words, "terrorist" might be hyperbole in one case but defamatory in another.
My feelings might be hurt if you refuse to speak to me, but I don't think so!
Which petition, the original lawsuit petition or the PO petition (application)? Sorry for not keeping up, but that was several feet of paper stacks ago.
DeleteI don't know what anyone else was talking about Allie but I was talking about the civil suit petition.
DeleteAh yes, thanks for answering. Just trying to place your reference.
DeleteI think it's time to go back to everyone ignoring SVG, except admins who could mark her posts as troll posts, if they feel like bothering.
ReplyDeleteShe's being fed by people responding to her. Don't feed her any more. Starve her.
It doesn't matter much to me. I will say that if you go through this blog you will find that quite often the only real activity here is generated by ME.
DeleteI know some people only want to talk to people that pat them on the head and tell them how right they are. Without me, that is the only type of exchange that happens here. GENII #1 writes, "blah blah blah" and GENII #2 says, "that is exactly right GENII #1". This type of exchange is beyond boring, but it is SAFE so I understand why the GENII like it.
That the concept of a conversation without conflict is boring to you explains so much about you. Normal people are not bored discussing things just because they agree with each other. You on the other hand are. You just want to be the center of attention so bad, something you project on to others.
DeleteHit the big red X and go back to your party of one forum. SMH, you really are pitiful, and lonely.
Im confused how you assume that the only "real activity" is generated by you tramp,(snoozie) If I look there is actually no activity generated by you, well unless being a troll is designated as "real activity" to you, then you might be right
DeleteDon't be confused, Anon 5:15, SVG is pitching a specious argument to misdirect you from the real issue. It's her twist on Col Jessip's plea in "A Few Good Men," "YOU WANT ME ON THIS BLOG! YOU NEED ME ON THIS BLOG!" Ah, NO... SVG is trespassing here and is trying to misdirect attention to that fact. Why? Simple: SHE CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH.
DeleteI have found that Bill Windsor is a Cyber Pirate
ReplyDeleteAre you saying that because he has a sunken chest or because he's a vexatious litigatoRrrrr?
DeleteLMAO @ 8:14
DeleteBill's Linkedin profile still says he's a serial entrepreneur, I could think of a dozen other "serial" things he is..........
DeleteI've known a few people that have described themselves as that, all were scumbags and low end business people.
Arrrrrrrr, he's the Capin' of the Pie Tanic matey. Searching for his motherload booty in a courtroom. Capin' Bill doesn't like the Letters of Marguee, so he will make ye decenters walk the plank at sea.
DeleteIf ye don't say "Aye Aye" to Capin' Bill, a scallywag he deems ye. If ye dare speak out against ol' Capin' Bill he shouts the standard "Belay that landlubber talk," as he threatens Ye'll be keelhauled!!