David Webb, like Joey, is a former journalist who now tries to keep playing that part but only as a blogger. He met Joey in the tiny little town of Cedar Creek Lake while Joey was a refugee there. Joey remarked one time on the ECO that Cedar Creek Lake had a very large gay underground population, I will certainly take his word for that. Somehow, they formed a very strong bond while Joey was there.
So as a jury took less than an hour last week to convict Joey of the charge that Wilson put on him (a charge that is very clear in black and white), David can not understand and accept this outcome. He starts calling around and eventually gets to a source that tells him to take the case to the ACLU which David said he took the extraordinary step of relaying that to team Joey.
David Webb has followed this case every step of the way as he continues to argue the Joey defense that this should be been a civil matter and that its a seriously bad new precedent to set by convicting Joey and not treating him as a "journalist". David did a shockingly poor job of defending this position online as he could not answer any of the contentions and simply devolved into childish name-calling and then getting the blog de-activated.
So one has to ask the question, why does this openly gay man who met and knew Joey while he was living in his neighborhood, have this remarkably strong bond with Joey? Why can't he accept a simple clear cut conviction that a jury of his peers took less than a hour to return and not one media outlet in the country disputed?
OMG! I was all wrong about David Webb. Here I was thinking HE was highly evolved. I really did enjoy his articles. Even the ones that weren't about Joey, they were though provoking. Turns out he's an emotional basket case. Not only did he run away like a pissed off little girl, he took OUR toy with him. All he had to do was hit the little red x in the top right corner of his computer screen. Big baby.
ReplyDeleteFunny how it's OK with David for Joey to post lies and hateful thoughts on his blog but he starts an argument he can't win on a benign blog, then gets mad and denies our right to free speech.
yeah I really never thought of this link between him and Joey until yappy brought it up last night and he went bonkers and shut us down. I was like you, I liked reading his stories on Joey and always linked to them, but now I have to rethink the who agenda especially when he admitted that he was looking into the ACLU getting involved after the conviction. He doesn't seem to be able to accept the judicial outcome of the case
Deletebtw, someone is re-blogging all my posts from the site:
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That's way weird. All your re-posts are show today's date. So, either somebody knew in advance the site would be pulled or somebody could access the site after it was pulled?
Deletethey were able to do it after it was taken down. but you can read the whole stories or all the comments.
DeleteOne thing is for sure: I'm never going to bed in the middle of a blog war again.
DeleteNow the joey is a lesbo site is marked private. The plot thickens..........
DeleteWhere is OReader and Yappy??? I'm growing through withdrawal pains. Do you think David scared them off?
I meant...going through withdrawal...........
DeleteI think yappy created a new blog http://joeyisntalittlekid.blogspot.com/
DeleteOreader is making a backup of the old site so we will have all the content. I think everyone will eventually find their way back. David cut off one blog and like 4 or 5 are going to rise up in response.
Good, safety in numbers. He can't shut down all the blogs he doesn't like. I was seriously considering complaining to Wordpress about what David did. Joey and his other demented followers couldn't piss me off that bad. Spouting off about freedom of speech, then trying to deny our right to speak.
DeleteYah yappy created the joeyIsnt blog. Wasn't sure if Ginger was going to continue given all the headaches I cause her. I'm sorry it was my mouth going off way too bad on David Webb that most likely caused your blog to be pulled. Even though it was crybaby Webby that pulled the gay card, I still am sorry. Foot in mouth syndrome, had it long before i was even born. :P
DeleteGlad you're back in business.
If you tag a bunch of things in this blogger, it should come up on google in a week or so in searches. So tag Oreader; etc whoever...if they need to find their way back. I have a few too I can email. The only way I found Gingers email last night was viewing cached versions of her blog scanning for her email I knew she put up.
Damn, I should be calling you a he Ginger since its way weird for a man to pretend to be a woman. How dare you confuse the life out of me. Don't you know that's mental torture? <yappy whining
Why can't you use 'yappy'? I'd do it just to spite David.
DeleteI can and want to. Trying to figure out how. Do I need to create a new blogger or google account?
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Ok caught up... Um NBTDT, it would take a tornado, hurricane and a typhoon all on the same day to scare me away. Webb is , well the things I called him last night :P ha I'm not one to be politically correct, i think society is so stupid that no matter if things are said in jest, their itty bitty feelings get hurt. Suck it up. The only thing is, I fet terrible that it was mostly large in part of my mouth that Webb was able to point out my words to get it closed down.
DeleteDon't be throwing shade on Slimmy~
DeleteJust a test...
Slimmy! You found us. Group hug!!
DeleteJeezafreakingLOU! I only had to de-code the Mayan calendar backasswards to test my posting abilities!
DeleteI been watching guys!! I was skeeert when I lost y'all! Don't lose me again! I'm not techie enough to find y'all!
Thanks Yappy!
Yappy? Shall I 'share' this link via my FB page with ButthurtWebb? He is my 'friend' in the FB world~ I giggle snorted a little at the pucker that would cause him!! I can't do that tho, then my shade would be revealed to the IsupportJoeyNoMatterWhats!!!
DeleteWebb is skeeert of Joey, just as I am, BUT he buddied up w/him instead of watching from a safe distance & now...he's f•cked~
It's Gingers site, ask her. Blogger is a lot harder to get pulled than wordpress. I'll let Ginger answer this one. Mine was the earlier one ... the joeyISNTalittlekid.
Deletethis one is Gingers and hope it will be homebase
@ yappy: Good for you! Dig in a little deeper, I right there with ya. Just really sorry I missed what you said at the end. Learned my lesson though, I won't go to sleep again as long as yappy is yapping.
Delete@ Slim: Right there with you too. After several tries today, I've about got the Mayan calender all figured out! God bless David Webb, because of him I'm learning new computer skills.
I think there's a lot going on with Webb. What that is, I wonder. I'm thinking Slimmy, Joey has something over the old whiny dude. Don't bother sharing, if Ginger tags this blog under the "labels", it'll start popping up soon on the google search. Webb will find this eventually all on his own. But we could send a link to Brannons page. Curtis found us already. Oreader is talking to Ginger, I left an email message for 2 others. Not sure who LOL is. Friday Funday better be someone like Oreader or i'll go into meltdown by the end of this week. Glad you found us hon. BIG GRIN
DeleteMaybe someone will make fun of me on here like call me a crazy freak heterosexual! I DO have the right to defend my sexual preference you know!!!!
Slimmy, do you know what he's skeerd about? Wonder if Joey is holding some cards.
Delete@NBTDT.... For the life of me, I was reeling when I posted so I cannot recall what the last thing I actually said to Webb.He was being such an ass. Trying to say how Joey stands behind his allegations. BS BS BS. It became a pissing contest he couldn't win, he was being twisted into a corner with his very own words so it digressed from there. Then he must have hit the REPORT FLAG button, gave his gay card credentials how offended he was by the blog because he wasn't going to win. I think it may have all been a set up but much of Gingers blogs are in cache still. I hope Oreader can copy n paste em all back. or most of it.
DeleteI went back to read it myself and POOOOOF gonzo. I'm checking out early girls / guys / n all those in between. I wouldn't want to OFFEND anyone by just saying gnite to girls and guys ya know...... Ttyl
We, Webb & I live 30 miles from Ennis...proximity is scary in itself to me...
DeleteI know Mr Webb, he's nice man.
I can't imagine anything Joey could truthfully say fugly about him. Just the online harassment & the bullying insinuations are probably enough to scare the dogshit outta him, it is me.
Sorry about dogshit, Yaps, but you get my drift.
I got a dose of the crazies earlier this year smearing my name. That Kidwell bitch can choke on Joey! Mr Webb is well aware how they (Joey's groupies) can be...& he does run in some nice social circles & is well thought of in our area.... Like I said, he shoulda just watched & never wrote the first fluff piece~ I am fairly certain Joey was calling him & writing to him in the spring while he was in Navarro waiting Farris to rescue him.... I seem to recall Webb posting an article to that effect....Yap? Didn't Joey contact Webb with the bs that he was being held without counsel? Or some snit?
OK, I get it now. The Daubens sent David our way. He came to your blog already filled to the brim with the Daubens' delusions. There is no way he was looking for or just stubbled onto the site. I'll bet they even baited him with the comments that included references using the word "gay". That would explain his sensitivity and over reaction.
ReplyDeleteI re-read his last article. The last paragraph is telling. In addition to his mischaracterization of the Combine arrest, it was this part that started me thinking David didn't have, didn't care and wasn't looking for the facts, his story was biased.
"During Dauben's decade-long career as a journalist, which started with a job at a newspaper and evolved to self-publishing under the Ellis County Observer banner, he has made numerous enemies who have rejoiced at the news of his legal problems this year. His critics call him unfair, unprofessional and reckless, while acknowledging he possesses natural talent for journalism."
Yeah thats what seems to be what happened. He came on here all pissed off and offended at things we never even actually said. Then he makes the claim that many of the past daubensita's make that we were all just one poster. I did notice that he and Daddy Dauben recently became FB friends, and then throw in the fact that he gets texted quotes straight from Presley's phone right after the ruling. He is on team Joey.
DeleteWell I hope Ginger keeps it up here. At least you can still post on Joey here
DeleteOk, Joeyisahipster is OReader. I'm not sure how I made it private. I was messing with a lot of stuff at once. I had a couple of different websites up & I think I mixed them up at some point.
ReplyDeleteSo, since I had a wordpress account that was just following joeyisalittlekid, when I went to my "dashboard," it gave me the option to "reblog," so I did. I'll get it back unpassworded in the morning. I made a backup of everything & it's in word. So, should anything ever be pulled again, we have it all. ALL I TELL YOU!! ALL!!!!! SUCK IT DW! (eww, probably the wrong verbiage there.)
I tried to make an OReader name for gmail & blogger, but it decided that it might be spam & now I have to wait up to two days to have it reviewed. I hadn't even written a single word, so I'm sure it's a conspiracy. But, IT'S A CONSPIRACY AGAINST JOEY & DW!!! because it let me make this!!!! http://joeyisalesbianhipster.blogspot.com/ I'm sure David will be thrilled.
That's about it. I'm really sad I missed all the fun though. I think David was wrong on so many points. Clearly too personally invested in the story to have presented as unbiased. He obviously took an interest in "mentoring" Joey, and he still is. I don't care why he was interested in Joey. Joey has basically ignored a lot of pretty solid guidance & advice. David is a bigot. He thinks being in a minority group somehow makes him elite. In his mind, we are all beneath him, & we must hate him for what he is. He paid zero attention to any of the substance that was said to him. I absolutely think that he hit the button to report the blog. I also think that is why he felt he could get more and more inflammatory. He thought the blog would be taken down & none of his words would see the light of day. I'm still shocked that a supposed veteran reporter would present himself as he did. Astounding.
OK, finally done.
You continue to publish lies about me. I had nothing to do with your blog being taken down. It's not something I would do. You obviously have other enemies who orchestrated that, but I have no idea whom they are.
ReplyDeleteOk, well here is the deal....wordpress said they were shutting me down because they determined (at like 1:30 am Monday morning) that it was a hate speech type of site. Now obviously my blog was critical, there is no denying that, but at no point did I post anything hateful. I don't hate Joey, I dont hate anyone involved in this (the closest one I could come to on that would be John Margetis). So, maybe you didn't do it but someone used your presence on the blog to play the gay hate card to wordpress and they capitulated immediately, kangaroo court style.
DeleteIs it possible that Word Press has some kind of filter for which several words in sequence or specific phrases triggered the shut down? Just asking because of the timing and I don't know anything about blog hosts. I'd rather be mad at the system rather than an unknown person. This is a "who done it" that is going to drive me nuts.
DeleteBut anyway, back to the original argument. My main problem with you is how you seem to lack the fundamental understanding of Joey's crimes. The terminology that you use to attach to Joey's "journalism" is so short that it barely registers. You have wrapped yourself around words like "unprofessional, bad judgement or reckless" when describing Joey's writing. I mean we can go ahead and blitz right past unprofessional, thats like saying the sun if hot. Is it the poor writing style, the grammar, the lack of sources, lack of research or the fact that he can't keep one coherent thought together at one time that gives it away? He gets and F- in just about every journalistic category that one could come up with. So when you use those terms, its almost as if you haven't said anything at all. This site and others are not after Joey because he is a piss poor writer, thats just a footnote to the issue.
DeleteThe reason Joey was convicted was because of his malicious and violent use of his blog and newspapers to incite violence and vigilante justice against those he decides to target. You seem to have this template of Joey as some kind of good intentioned, ambitions yet naive reporter that made an honest mistake and then made amends for it. If that really were the case, I think we would agree with you on this conviction. But that is not the case at all. Just look at Joey's "retraction" when he found out he had been duped. He spent the majority of the article calling the woman names like whore, prostitute ect... Not just that, but the crime that Joey happened to be convicted of, he committed some version of that every other single day for at least the last two years, and continued to do it well after the Red Oak incident. It was not a one time mistake, he did it every day on purpose, he didnt learn his lesson and he didn't stop his behaviour.
You seem to fundamentally lack the understanding of why it is everyone was after Joey. The last paragraph in your article jumped the shark: "During Dauben's decade-long career as a journalist, which started with a job at a newspaper and evolved to self-publishing under the Ellis County Observer banner, he has made numerous enemies who have rejoiced at the news of his legal problems this year. His critics call him unfair, unprofessional and reckless, while acknowledging that he possesses a natural talent for journalism."
-first of all, he was only a journalist for about 6 years.
-enemies rejoicing at his legal problems might be true but its overly slanted and gives away what team you are writing for
-natural talent for journalism? what critic would acknowledge that? Is there one word we could think of to qualify a talent that he has? Keeping in mind that ambition and zeal are not talents.
hmmm, well so first off I really in all seriousness doubt It was David that got you shut down, 2nd, haha, ya I found the site this morning, I fig. It would be posted on douchebags site, so I went and checked there (oh douchebag is Curtis)
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