While her old Fraudster in Chief is in jail and awaiting his next trial, her new one Bill Windsor is alive and active again. Presley posted this on the Lawless facebook page https://www.facebook.com/lawlessamerica
Presley says (and I'm editing out the child's name because unlike Presley I care about this poor girls future):
"Presley and minor child are survivors of their own father's abuse. They are standing strong and speaking out about the truth. They are a pillar of strength for the next generations youth. Break the silence of the Amador court ordered sexual abuse." then she links he illegal website and they have a pic of her and her half sister.
Here is the problem, her half sister isn't making those claims or standing up against them. In fact its the exact opposite, the child has testified in court that her dad has not abused her and that she loves him. This is what I cant stand about Joey and now Presley. Yes, they are both unemployed losers in life, but way beyond that, they spend most of their life hurting other people with their online words. You want to be a loser, fine go be one, my taxes will have to pick up your bill. But don't take your vile hate and put it on other innocent victims simply because you want the world to listen to you. Joey, most likely, sexually abused a boy. Presley is going much farther than that in my opinion as she continues to psychologically scar this poor girl day in and day out.
This link shows how much they hate men.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=442708602459315&set=p.442708602459315&type=1&theater
it also shows how they deal with anyone who isn't in their cult, they look for the delete button. You can see them lamenting the new dangers of Bill's facebook page now being public. They can't just say "you go girl" to every single comment anymore, they may have to deal with a differing opinion.
DeleteMaybe my next resume should be in this font
DeleteDon't get all excited about the link. I just wanted to point out that this font doesn't scream take me seriously. Maybe they should have tried comic sans. Comic Sans, is like totally like professional, ya know?
Just finally found the new blog.
DeleteAll I can say is the more and more I read, the stranger this rabbit hole gets. Why they hating on men like that? There are good men out there with children who are not abusing them. I'm just baffled by this "daddy's worm stuff". So Joey was involved with all this?
Hey Jimmy, glad you made it over here.
DeleteYeah Joey got directly involved with these woman, particularly Connie, Presley and another one named Susan Farris. Joey wanted to get in their pants (it worked with Presley) and he liked all the new viewers it got him since each case already had tons of crazies following him.
If you listen to some of Joey's last radio shows he did, it was an hour of these women spewing all kinds of threats of violence against their ex's. Thats all these rifts are about, thats all they ever will be and when you go deep into the details you will find out exactly why the courts have ruled the way they did. For instance with Connie IBedwell, she had several DWI's and it was clear that she was more interested in partying every night than being a mom.
She is a complete embarrassment to everyone. Claiming to be so righteous and a follower of God while at the same time speak in such a way, a sailor would get red-faced. When she was little, she was constantly at odds with her mother because of the constantly bashing of me not being Catholic. She was consistently told that because I was not Catholic, I was going to Hell and that if she didn't want that to happen to her, she needed to fall in line and be like B Craven. Her mom must be so proud of her that she is now embraced the Dauben-Bedwell-ic religion.
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SC, In all seriousness, I really feel like I should say something to you like, "I'm sorry for your loss." I can't imagine the pain you feel. I pray that she gets back on the right track. It's pretty obvious she is a bright girl with a lot of happiness still wanting to escape. It just seems like she has been subject to years of brainwashing, anger, and hate. I'm sorry that any parent would have to see that in their child. It's probably worse than having a child with an illness.
DeleteReally not necessary but thanks. She chose to do this. Systematically this has been done over the past 19 years. People including her talk about Parental Alienation Syndrome being a bogus claim and/or junk science. She is the poster child of how a child can be alienated against one parent by another.
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Uh, has anybody noticed even if those stats are correct, the math & conclusion is wrong?
ReplyDelete9000 cases
2% of cases allege sexual abuse = 180 OK
4.8 percent of those 180 is NOT 86, but 48% is. So women allege the abuse 48% of the time . . . pretty much half
5-8% of those 86 (or 48% of the 180 allegations) turn out to be false = about 7 false allegations out of the 86
"7 out of 9000 turn out to be intentionally false allegations" - uh no, the 9000 was the number of divorces . . . we said 180 allegations were made so that's 7 out of 180
What we know is roughly half of the allegations made were made by females & 5-8% of the allegations were found to be false. We can't compare the percentage of false allegations made by men because we weren't give that number. The 94 allegations made by men (or 52% of 180) may have all been true or all been false. We don't know. Hence the numbers don't really mean anything except the stated. 9000 divorces. 180 allegations. 48% made by women. 52% made by men. 5-8% of the time women were found to be lying. So 7 out of 86 allegations made by women were false. Those numbers aren't quite as staggering as she'd have you to believe. That's if the numbers are based on fact . . . which they probably aren't anyway.
I'm sorry this sentence is confusing:
Delete"7 out of 9000 turn out to be intentionally false allegations" - uh no, the 9000 was the number of divorces . . . we said 180 allegations were made so that's 7 out of 180
It's 7 of the women's portion of the 180 . . so really 7 out of 86. Again we don't know the percentage of allegations made by men were false. If men accuse falsely at the same 5-8% rate, then they made about 7 false allegations too . . and we're at 14 out of 180. But like I said, not only are her comments misleading and wrong, we haven't been given the key number to the other half of the math. We know men and women accuse at an almost equal rate 48 vs 52%, but we have no idea about the validity of the men's accusations.
Curious Bystander Here (still to dumb to figure this blog out): You beat me to it O Reader. The math, which isn't my strong suite, doesn't look right to me either.
Delete(Petition for forced sterilization in draft stage)
ReplyDeleteThat link where they call the guy an abuser just because he wants to see facts to back up the stat only gets worse. It was still going when it was posted here. I guess they or Bill closed the comments because I don't the place where you can make a comment anymore. But, I'm not really into facebook, so I might be wrong on that part.
ReplyDeleteSo now anybody that questions the legitimacy of stats with obvious flaws in the math is now an abuser?
WhatwouldJoeyDo facebook is back. Please report page as fake. Click report/block. Click submit report. Click report timeline. confirm. Click this is a fake account. Click this timeline was created to bully and harass. Click continue. Click submit report.
ReplyDeleteBrannon knows who this is. He is a friend for the second time around. This is a new account from today.
https://www.facebook.com/whatwouldjoey.do.5?fref=ts
actually I don't know who it is, that's like I saying I know who everyone is on here because I come on here and comment, also, for those that are commenting on anon, when you go to where it says Reply as: there is a space that says Name/URL and you can type the name in there
DeleteRoaming around Presley's facebook and links, I came across this woman named Brie Lybrant. I'm not saying she's lying but there's a scathing blog that gives doubt to her claims. Essentially stating this woman has some mental and emotional issues and she wants attention / has motive. Turning off the sound, I'm inclined to think the writer may be right. I see this when I've watched Presleys claims over the past 2 or so years. Her accounts change dramatically and the allegations and descriptions against her father were more and more elaborate and salacious probably in hopes to get people to believe her. BUT Presley did not tell Dr Phil any of the information she tries to spew in 2012. at all. Its not documented any where either. When a person has to fabricate and create more stories, its because they're lying. The "truth" DOES always stand Presley when its consistent. Like Brie, you have no proof. Like Brie, you have a lot of mental problems. Like Brie, I believe you are a very sad lonely girl needing attention and is getting that attention by your fabricated abuse.
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The journalist... I mean blogger (that was for you Webby)... makes a good point which I've been trying to make on a lot of forums for a long time now. Just because it's on the internet and someone is good at telling a story (and it helps to be attractive as well, those women get MORE attention than the rest).. does not make their story real or factual. Blindly believing people just because you see it on the internet is one of the most ridiculous things I've seen. OR using the excuse "well I was raped too, so they MUST be telling the truth" IS also a dumbass way to reason out why you believe a person you've never met and truly do not know.
DeleteFrom the blog link above:
2. Why would she make these claims if they were not true?
This is faulty reasoning on part of the viewer. You are assuming because of severity of the allegation, that it’s true. It’s called slander. Just because a severe claim is manifested publicly on Youtube doesn’t equate that the allegation has truth.
Yeah I would say 98% of the guys following Connie and Loryn just want in their pants, thats why most of the comments are like "I would beat that pedophile's head in if I saw him" its the damsel in distress act. The other 2% is Anthony Lingle.
Delete... and the remainder are women who have had issues in their own family / divorce court.
DeleteThere's some pretty credible women I've seen following Connie and her twin and they generally do not act in any way that Connie or Loryn does. Like dressing provocatively and using push up bra's before grabbing your accessory (I mean child) to snap a pic, does not make for a good 'victim' but they can't see that. They see the results and it's the "oh you're so pretty or hot" comments on their pics that feed these women.
Many of the other women I've read about have genuine evidence but they don't seem to have some pathological desire to spew hatred against their ex, post pics of their ex or make sure the world 'knows' about their ex. Their ONE and only primary focus is to get help for their child. That's where these women differ... a great deal.
Sorry, forgot to GIGGLE GIGGLE at the Lingle 2% comment. Agreed.
DeleteI spent a good deal of time in college studying the Facial Action Coding System. (it was being researched in relation to witness testimony & memory) Anyway, I'd link old versions of the manuals because I can easily find PDFs of the very things I studied (although they've since been updated), but I'm probably the only nerd who thinks that dissecting every mini expression is a fun way to pass the time . . . so, here is a fun little oversimplified, eye movement only diagram. Feel free to refer to it should you watch the video yappy has linked.
Deletehttp://go.success.com/tonyjeary/worksheets/eyechart.pdf
Please note, this chart is also handy should you watch any of the lawless interviews.
I haven't really looked through Connies FB friends or the lawless people to see who seems legit and who doesn't. I'm am sure there are plenty of people that really have felt let down if not abused by "the system."
ReplyDeleteLast comment on Brie chick. If you still have your little eye chart handy, check out this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vF0BJlkyC4
She is blogging about a bunch of beauty products. Notice which way she's looking when she is remembering? See, memory versus lying. She is using a completely different hemisphere of her brain when she is telling her abusive father story. Memory & fabrication. Big difference. Could there be truth to the story, sure. But I'd bet money that she is at very least embellishing for dramatic purposes, and that's just in the eyes.
Very interesting Oreader. Thank you. Even your little 19th PDF ;) example shows how our body language gives us away.
DeleteI cannot imagine the men who have been wrongly accused (Shane being one of them I'm certain and NO I"M NOT SHANE... <<< disclaimer for the idiots).. live through pure hell. Going to the courts to accuse your ex of child sexual abuse is an exclusive female weapon and as the other link shows, it happens. The link Presley and Connie were trying to rip apart that guy on. WOMEN DO falsely accuse. I don't care how little, it does happen. But in those wackonuts worlds, they believe EVERYONE that comes along because they sing the exact same song. Then they say "see, its EXACTLY like my story, so we're both telling the truth". HUH? WHAAAA? Excuse me? More like, hey I learned your little scheme from you so I'm going to repeat it. In Connie's case, she continues to cheer on women who do like she did and she even says "oh the courts CANT do anything to you if you expose, so keep exposing". LMAO ok, so her case is one to follow. What was she going for? Absolute removal of all her parental rights to her now almost 7 yr old child? I guess if that's how she measure's success in her nutty head ok. I cannot believe the women who do follow and do like she does. Some have ended up in jail because of her advice. No shit sherlock. Give the middle finger to the judge in your case and refuse any and all court orders, YOU TOO can and will have your kid removed from you. They do not get it.
SO do we believe then that these same women who falsely accuse simply VANISH into thin air never to be heard from again? Naw, I'm thinking it would be in their very nature to continue to de-ball their men online and any other way possible. There's only 1 thing in MY books worse than child sexual abuse - it's those who falsely accuse. It's beyond the bottom of the barrel.
ooopsie, tired. I was trying to joke but oh so failed. Even your little 19th century PDF (old version)...
DeleteOne day Oreader, the rest of US in your head will move you to the 21st century, then we'll celebrate and Webb is buying the meal. I mean meal(s). Expensive with legit champagne and all.
To Joey
ReplyDeleteBe careful what you wish for.
Let every Man own his own Hand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JDY1KvoQYk&feature=fvsr