I'm continually amazed at just how intellectually vapid Webb really is. He continues to bludgeon everyone over the head with his credentials because its almost at this point like a "I have this degree despite what you are about to read from me".
Last night he continued his staunch defense of Joey and all out assault on me and those that post on this blog. He took offense at anything and everything while playing the victim card profusely. He continues to defend Joey Dauben and still will not admit that he committed a felony only saying Joey "exercised poor judgment, failed to observe the ethics and and professional standards of journalism." He is now trying to defend Joey over at the cedarcreeklake.com site by saying "Anyone who puts a blog up on the Internet is legally a publisher. Why weren't there complaints about the terminology when he was arrested."
The poor guy, like Joey, can't seem to stay with one coherent thought and must resort to name calling and threats once his views are shown to be unsupportable. Last night, as he failed to understand a 2nd grade exercise of similar and dissimilar, I made the observation of: "have you ever heard the expression "don't bring a knife to a gun fight"?" To which he responds with: "This is just more bullshit and defamation. Was that a threat Ginger Sap? Are you planning on bringing a gun somewhere near me to settle an argument?" And "Well, I think I'll let you explain that to the police. You have been attacking me for days, and I think it's a good idea at this time to make sure you aren't planning something more sinister than verbal abuse." Hmmmm, I think the mystery of why did the old site get shut down in the middle of the night due to hate speech is solved.
Its becoming obvious that David is getting more and more frustrated and aggressive in his quest to get us shut down as he promised the Daubens he would. He figured his super gay powers would have been enough to shut us down, now he has to try the police.
ReplyDeleteUmm, sure, the police will handle a civil, 1st amendment speech issue. Hasn't it been his position all along that Joey did nothing criminal, everything Joey posted is protected? I think David should go for it, call the cops - best done in the middle of the night though. His better senses are in control before 8 PM.
DeleteJust like Joey. Picking fights for absolutely no reason other than somebody has a different opinion. The later the hour, the more antagonistic and combative David becomes. Lends credence to yappy's evaluation of David's posts, they appear to be alcohol driven.
I did not have your previous blog shut down, nor did I threaten to have this one shut down. I wouldn't have any idea how to do that, particularly in the middle of the night.
DeleteI have been contacted my many people since you started writing about me who have advised me to be careful because they know you and have been targeted by you in the past. That seems like sound advice because you seem to have become obsessed with me.
You have not yet crossed the line between free speech and intimidating and threatening me so I do not need to contact the police at this time. I do now have a picture of you so at least I know what you look like if you approach me.
The only people that have been discussed on my blog are directly related to the Joey saga (Daubenistas if you will), so once again you are showing who's bed you are sleeping in.
DeleteOf course I haven't crossed the line to intimidation and threats, I'm not Joey, in fact I'm everything that he was not. But this is a reversal from what you said last night. What do you have a split personality, daytime and nighttime two different people?
I'm glad you have a pic to look at and maybe inspire you. You can tape it to the wrist of your arm that way you can identify me if you are in a crowd or something. You can never be too safe.
Last night was a test. I wanted to see if Ginger would Snap. Good job. You passed.
Deletethats a cute little revisionist history lesson you gave us there. The problem is no one is going to buy what you are selling, kinda like your claim that you didn't get the old blog shut down adding now that you wouldnt have any idea how to do that (having been a lifelong journalist). All I know is I have an acute allergic reaction to BS and I can't stop sneezing after you post something.
DeleteDidn't do it. I was advised by one of your many, many enemies the first night you started on me that your site was already being monitored.
DeleteThere apparently many people who follow your site religiously just to see if you launch an attack against them. I had never heard of any of them prior to your attack on me.
DeleteMore revisionist history for you. I didn't start in with you, you came on here already insulted and wanting to start with us. I made a very vague reference in my Joey/Presley prison conversation satire piece. And it wasnt even an attack. I just said that out of all the stories written on Joey's conviction, yours was the only one Joey would want to read. Now thats not an attack unless you want it to be, and clearly you took it as an attack. You now admit that you were in contact with the Daubenistas before you came on this blog. And given your continual insistence that somehow this blog was trying to link you and Joey together sexually, its clear that they sold you a bill of goods and you bought the whole lot of it and came here looking for a fight.
DeleteNow you are realized that you have bitten off more than you can chew (thats another idiom, I'm not threatening you with cannibalism). As you admit there are quite a few people that follow this blog whatever their reasons and now you have forced yourself into the story instead of just covering it. I think you would like to find a way to step out of this situation and leave it as now you are starting to see the long term consequences of being linked to Joey Dauben in cyberspace and the potentially devastating affects that will have on your public credibility.
Whatwould Joeydo It's laugh out loud funny the cyber bullies are crying about the loss of their blog. Google is investigating them and providing their vital information. Cyber bullies are just punks. And hence the irony.
ReplyDeleteFriday at 8:35pm via mobile · Edited
Just to clarify: nobody cried over loss of the other blog. I didn't go back to check the posts but I believe I was the only one seriously PISSED about it. I was pissed about it because for years and years and years you, WWJD, and the rest of the Dabuenistas didn't seem to have any issues or take exception publicly to the cyber bullying, delusions and lies Joey posted on daily basis. I expected fair play - obviously I over estimated your emotional growth and ability to act as a mature adults.
@ David: As regards the "test", GROW UP and quit baiting Gingersnap. Nobody here attacked you and Gingersnap is not obsessed with you. You came here of your own free will with an agenda, which appears to be pick fights. The first reference to you was in relation to one of the articles you posted after other reporters quit following the Joey saga. It was ironic that the only coverage was in a gay publication. In case you've forgotten, or never read Joey's posts, Joey outed gay people, he seemed to be homophobic, then was accused of diddling a little boy. You, your behavior has caused subsequent comments. If you want to see how obsessed any of us are with you, just shut your mouth. You'll be forgotten in a very short time.
I will be happy to quit commenting if Ginger Snap and the rest of you quit attacking me and accusing me of untruths. You will never hear from me again. I promise.
ReplyDeleteI have not attacked you. I have offered an opinion as to your behavior and comments. If you do not want negative comments from us, do not hand us the ammo. This is Gingersnap's blog, just as you do on your blog, Gingersnap is going to have the last word. Deal with it.
DeleteThat's just it. I've never written a word about this blog or its participants on my blog or anybody else's. I never would have commented here if you hadn't repeatedly made references to me and my sexuality and suggested that it was some sort of frame of reference for Joey Dauben. Your comments were so atrocious the first night I made comments that the blog got taken down as a result of it already being monitored based on previous complaints from someone else. Then all of you try to blame me for getting it taken down. That didn't happen. You got yourselves blasted out of cyberspace.
Deletethats also just it, I have never written a word about you other than simply linking your articles. Who and what David Webb is was never a subject of my blog until you forced us to contemplate it. You didn't do you due diligence and you just come right in here with the bought and paid for bill of goods from the Daubenistas and now you are caught with your pants down. Hmmmm, where have we heard this story before?
DeletePS: I am we'll aware that Joey and his family are not supportive of gay rights. That in itself should be proof enough to you that my primary concern is free speech in that I still wrote unbiased stories about him, regardless of his position on that subject.
ReplyDeleteOllie: Oh so glad you are back. Don't poke the turkey..that's funny, I don't care who you are....
DeleteDavid: Gingersnap is right you have inserted yourself. Isn't that a violation of journalistic law? I believe your interest started out with 1st amendment issues but you were baited and duped. You were fed the conspiracy kool-aid and you drank every last drop.
Your approach to this story is biased because you believe that Joey is a journalist and was persecuted for "exposing corruption" and calling out the government for evil deeds. It's obvious at this point that you are unable to debate the issues intelligently because you did not read the junk Joey posted. Had you read his rantings, as we have done, you might have a different perspective - maybe you would at least understand our perspective.
Maybe the other reporters quit on the story because it became obvious to them that Joey is not a journalist, his postings crossed every ethical line and he is not the target of a persecution conspiracy. He really got what he had coming. Karma.
Hey guys. Not sure if this will let me post or not. I think it still hates me. So, busy holiday. No more poking the turkey without me! Weirdly, I don't have much to say about David. He reminds me of LSH. He resorts to low level name calling. He quotes text that was never written. He insinuates that he has been threatened when he has not. He is either stupid or full of it regarding what his precious sources have fed him. I'd love to see his photo of ginger, except we all know it would just be victimizing somebody of the dauben clan's choice.
ReplyDeleteDavid, you are biased. You are also stupid and gullible if you believe the brilliant cinclusions the daubens have come up with. Check out their facebook posts if you want to see their maturity and intelligence.
Please accept my appologies for typoes. Away from computer and on new phone.
DeleteI've already figured out that the author of this blog suffers from some sort of multiple personality disorder -- either for real or theatrics. How many people do you have in your head. I'm fascinated by it.
ReplyDeleteahhhhhh nice, more names and accusations, such an adult. Maybe if you would quit staring at some pic you think is me you could start to reverse your fascination with me.
DeleteThe emails just keep coming in about you. I've never seen anything quite like it. But now I'm going to watch "Liz and Dick" with Lindsay Lohan so I'm putting you and your alleged mental problems on the back burner.
ReplyDeleteSounds like you are talking with that person that thinks I'm MVZ. Oh dear Lord I'm begging, please please pretty please expose me on your blog. I won't sue you, I won't press any charges, I just want you to stick your foot into that story, come on you know you want to.
Deleteoh, and I won't even report you to the blog gods
DeleteCommercial break -- sorry but you aren't interesting enough unless we can have an in person interview with youaboutwho you are and what you do and why you do it. Back to the show
ReplyDeleteoh yes I am, as you said there are many many of those waiting for a hero like you to expose me to the light of day. Joey can no longer fend for himself, its up to you to save the day. And as you have learned, its just a blog, as long as you dont break the law you can't be held responsible. Come on, do it, expose me, dont just tease it do it.
DeleteAdmit it David. You haven't a clue who ginger is. And if you truly think we are all the same person, you have a terrible grasp on the written language. Just as musicians easily recognize a composer's style or people in the movie industry recognise the work of a particular director, a "writer* should be able to disseminate completely distinct voices.
DeleteYet another commercial break. You sound like a woman so I'm not sure
ReplyDeletenot sure, this is new and shocking terminology from you. Why the hell would that stop you, it hasn't so far. Come on, be a hero to your new family, expose me.
DeleteNo thank you, I remain aprofessional journalist. Something of which you clearly have no comprehension.
ReplyDeleteI've given you an invitation to an interview to present your point of view. I'll even treat you to lunch at an upscale restaurant? How about it? I'm here for you.
ReplyDeleteI have my own blog, thats where I get my point of view out. Is this registering to you yet? I don't need a one on one interview to show my point of view.
DeleteAnd you are right about one thing, finally, I don't have any comprehension of your definition of a professional journalist.
I think that is probably because of your lack of education and sophistication.
DeleteI have just as much education as you. Go back to the drawing board
DeleteWell, if David thinks we are all one person, then I'm in it for the dinner. Bob's Steak & Chop on Lemmon Ave, David pays for valet parking too. Best rib-eye in Dallas. Maybe if we spend all of his slush fund he'll finally be convinced there are more of us....we are every where.......
DeleteOf course, I will probably need my security agent to accompany me.
ReplyDeleteDid I read he took a break for his Dick? What's with this guy? The only place Mr Webby Boozehoud gets his 'info' is from Presley, Connie and David Dauben. They all think they have us pegged and that's so far from the truth Webb. In fact, because you blindly believe them so deeply, it tells me volumes about you and quite possibly how you may have written your past articles. Don't you have anything better to do Mr Whiney? Or you this lonely you enjoy poking and playing the victim card. I see you are not familiar with idioms David just by reading Gingers 'idiom' written to you. It went right over that little ole head of yours and maybe the big head too.
ReplyDeleteDo I need to write a disclaimer for the REAL WRITER in our midst? What I wrote was opinion David Webb. I think you're a very lonely depressed sad whiney old man who is enjoying the attention he gets from the few of us on here.
I don't think you have one brain cell in your head given that ALL your information is coming from someone in the Dauben camp.
Wow! I think that speaks volumes about you. Is it time for your meds?
ReplyDeleteaww someone insult the real writer? Did I hurted your itty bitty feeewengs? I'd say sorry but its too funny to see you come back and whine and stomp those feet like you do. I've never met anyone quite like you, in a permanent victimized hypersensitive state where EVERYONE in this world better be politically correct at all times and if they're not, then they're deemed 'hating' the particular group they make a joke about. If we dare say a thing, you've found a way to take MAJOR offense. Then as I continue to make fun of you and be ever so very sarcastic, you throw that temper tantrum even louder.
DeleteTalk about tight ass David!!! you called me that remember honey buns ;) Sadly what you'll find with me is that no matter what someone says about me, be it nuts or need meds or it 'speaks volumes of me', I DONT actually take offense.
Here's an example of my REAL BLOGGER response: TEE HEE HEE
http://oi47.tinypic.com/1zl9hnd.jpg
Gnite old foogy, its past your booze time, damnit, I meant your bed time. My backspace key isn't working, sorry.
Are you getting the fact that I don't care to have an 'educated' conversation with someone who supports child molesters? I'd rather just use sarcasm and humor. Its too bad you can't see just how sarcastic I've been, all you see is someone offending you. boooo frigging hoooo., go call your mommy or better yet, Joey's mommy. She's exceptionally good at the coddling thing.
DeleteOk, gotta sleep. nighty night wimpy, I mean webby.
(yes, i admit freely that i willingly reduce myself to name calling to Webby cuz he's just a big ole baby and because I tried doing the common sense thing with you, even tried to get you to ask me about my very dear kind friend, another deeply harmed Joey victim. But apparently you're articles are fair and balanced enough so name calling it is, hot stuff *big dink*... damn backspace key,... *big wink*.)
You are obviously insane.
ReplyDeletelol naw, not insane. Funny, sometimes, smartass all the time, sarcastic much of the time, laugh at most everything in life... um yup, all the time too. But no not insane. giggle giggle
DeleteNow stop with the foreplay, I'm too tired.
Actually, I'm enjoying a nice glass of champagne.
ReplyDelete
DeleteWow!! How amazing. I'm enjoying a nice glass of grey poupon. Delish :D
Oh sorry to say, hubby says no on mailing you the $800 bottle of paint thinning cognac. His deceased brother bought it for him, which baffles the life out of me. I've never seen a dead man buy anything. Go figure.
In all honesty, I don't enjoy seeing people suffer, no matter how mean the have been to me. I gre you to seek help from public services groups because I'm assuming that's why you haven't accessed care yet. There is no shame on telling someone youneedhelp if you are unable to afford private care.
ReplyDeleteLMAO!!!! Its astounding how I've managed to raise 4 amazing well-rounded and VERY accountable kids and keep 1 husband for welllll over 2 decades. Since I'm so nuts, you'd think i would have had one of my kids turn out to be an internet bully and destroy many lives, never work and eventually end up in jail for raping kids only eventually to get written up by one of the finest writers to ever grace the USA!!! The Great David Webb
DeleteHuh. Damn, I'm doing something very wrong. None of my kiddo's are fucked up in the least.
Help me David Webb, please show me the light :). Amen, prayers have been answered. This is why Webb is in my life. Praise you baby Jesus. You've saved my wretched soul.
By the way Webb, if you'd light the hell up, you'd see I'm not being MEAN to you at all. I'm poking fun and joking around. What it tells me given my University degree, is that you truly are exceedingly hypersensitive to the world and what others 'appear' to be saying. You turn that into being mean and when others are 'mean' that makes YOU an instant victim.
DeleteYou are your own worst enemy. Incredibly sad.
Well, have some more champagne. Is it the real stuff? Because authentic champagne is a brand name or did you know that? If not, get off this blog and go google. Learn something new :) CHEERS WEBBY, you're fun to play with but I'm losing my beauty sleep. stupid ass Texas starts kids schools by 7 or at least where we live. I wish we picked a different state, I'm not a morning person.
All I can interpret from your words is that you are really a sick asshole. I hope that none of your children are gay . If they are, God only knows how they will survive your wrath, you creep.
Deletesee ^^^^ a whiny victim. You're beyond 'oversensitive or hypersensitive". I'm sick? You're hilarious. Do you call women assholes often? My children are actually very well balanced people unlike those who raise Joey Daubens.
DeleteLMAO you're a riot. It truly takes NOTHING for you to flip out. You can't see how much I was joking around and making fun.
By the way honey buns, if any of my children were gay, I'd love them the very same. Nothing would change in our world or our family in the least and they would be accepted FULLY :). Unlike Joey, the little effeminate monster who daddy Dauben seemed to hate and know his sone was gay and punished him accordingly thus creating a very sick internet bully.
I'm not sure what you read in my posts to make you think I'm a sick um 'asshole'. that term is generally left for men, not women but whatever floats your wee wee. You see what you NEED to see. THUS it makes you the victim in the end and you can take offense.. My wrath? LMAO... my children wouldn't know that in their lives from either parent in our home, not ever. I think what you're doing at the moment in 'my field' WEbby is called P R O JECTION!
Joey on the other hand DID experience the wrath of his daddy and it made him the monster he is today.
You're a very odd person Webby, I think you need to find a better therapist. This one has kept you in the victim stance far too long. Its time to step off your soap box, lighten up and realize when people are kidding around and messing with you JUST TO SEE IF THEYD GET A RISE out of you. but BOOM, there's WEbby's 'rise'. Surprise surprise. Human nature fascinates me. You give them what they want and they behave like text book. WOW
LMAO wow
STILL LMAO
Poor David, the permanent victim wearing those rose colored glasses viewing life as if everyone is against him when in fact, mr Paranoid, no one actually cares. But since Webb has some DEEP NEED to make himself center of attention assumingly because mommy did not give him all he needed AND he feels the need to be concerned about my exceptionally healthy balanced kids, so he PROJECTS HIS OWN fears and life experience to attack me.
DeleteI find that laughable since he doesn't know who I am or what I'm about in the least. All I can do is laugh. Maybe its inappropriate to laugh and make fun of someone so very depressed and troubled, living in the permanent victim mode. I don't know, I don't work anymore in my field. I'm quite content staying at home with my babies.
David, take a peek, it may help you to understand why you are so very angry:
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-psychological-projection.htm
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evolution-the-self/200807/what-your-anger-may-be-hiding
You are using MANY defense mechanisms on Gingers blog David. But you cannot seem to wrap your head around the fact that throughout this particular post, I've been kidding and joking around with you, being sarcastic and saying things I THOUGHT COULD get under your skin but probably wouldn't since I pointed that very fact out to you exactly how much I was kidding around and you still didn't 'get it'.
I think you're probably plied with alcohol (self medicating) so your reasoning is very warped at the moment unfortunately. When you awake, you should go to the links and read. Maybe you'll get a bit of an insight. You seem to be fighting some serious demons that have nothing whatsover to do with a complete stranger (me) on a blog. You have a lot of anger and rage therefore, it does not and cannot afford you the 'label' survivor. Those who truly survive do not live as a victim nor do they take offense from those they do not know. I see on your rarereporter, you call yourself a survivor. But yet, nothing on how you present yourself is as a true survivor. I only see 'victim' to the enth degree. So very very sad.
Seriously David, it takes absolutely nothing whatsoever to get a rise out of you using the smallest techniques to see if you take the bait and you do, each and every time. I'm more than exceedingly confident I'm not the one that needs help in this duo :).
Take care, get some sleep. You're massive lifes problems are far beyond a tiny little blog Ginger started. But the other thing you'd rather use to COPE in life is DIVERSION. THis blog is a diversion so you do not have to face whatever plagues and troubles you deeply. Gnite Webby
WWDD? A little snippet from the David victim Webb textbook:
DeleteHere's what our new buddy is doing, he's attempting to restore his emotional well being by invalidating us and making his point of view superior :) SPEAKS VOLUMES. *no shocker*
"Paradoxical as it may seem, anger—even though it destroys any true peace of mind or sense of well-being—can yet help us to soothe ourselves. For our anger potently serves to invalidate whoever or whatever led us to feel invalidated. In adamantly disconfirming the legitimacy of the menacing external force, we self-righteously proclaim the superiority of our own viewpoint. Thus is our critical need for emotional/mental security restored."
And all of these statements come from people who are too cowardly to reveal their identities. Nice try,
DeleteDavid has one argument. He continues to use it regardless of the fact that it is a moot point.
DeleteHere's a thought David, wake up and get with the times. This is the internet. It has been affording people the right to speak anonymously for 30 years. Sorry if you don't like it. Ginger has never once insisted that a commenter reveal their personal information just because they held a dissenting opinion. Anybody can join this discussion.
I think it is hilarious the double standard held by the Daubenistas. You'll support Joey who accused dozens of innocent victims of heinous criminal activities, but somebody is merely critical of your opinions or lifestyle, and you try to shut them down.
See what I mean? Poor David, whine, "yappy is not credible because I don't know who you really are". Are you really going with that? What you clearly do is deflect, divert, project and name calling are your 'victim' tactics you use when you refuse to answer questions or deal with issues.
DeleteI thought you already boasted you knew who we all were? lol
My perception of you doesn't change regardless whether you are aware of my actual name or not. What a bizarre comeback, but it's all you have. You must have been deeply abused as a child but the real problem with you David, is the pathetic fact you choose to remain a permanent victim instead of deciding to grow up and deal with life. I also think Joey has something on you and I think you'd be a very easy person to 'threaten' given you actually believed Gingers idiom was a threat. (another bizarre leap) You spook easy, you read into things that are not there so I think it would be very easy for Joey to intimidate you. If it isn't that, its lust. Because there is just nothing of substance to your articles, they most certainly are bias. WHY don't you care 1 shit about Joey's real victims? Either you have a boner for the guy or Joey has threatened you. If you wrote against Joey in any way, then you wouldn't get whatever you're getting out of this at the moment. Such an interesting insight to see you continually refuse to ASK about Joey's victims. Huh