Connie Bedwell continues her rage filled posts on her own facebook page. Her attempts at derailing justice resulted in her banishment from the courthouse until the jury returns with a verdict.
Unfortunately in our quest for the perfect case study of a true narcissistic psychopath, we won't be able to find the answer to nature or nurture today kids. Daddy Timothy Bedwell let loose his own wrath on the courts just as jury was exiting. Narcissistic rage (just like Bill feels) is unquenchable. It's a result of getting to the heart of what scares narcissists the most - evidence that they can't fully manipulate their environment.
"Although everybody tends to react to narcissistic injuries with embarrassment and anger, the most intense experiences of shame and the most violent forms of narcissistic rage arise in those individuals for whom a sense of absolute control over an archaic environment is indispensable because the maintenance of self-esteem - and indeed of the self - depends on the unconditional availability of the approving-mirroring selfobject or of the merger-permitting idealized one." (Search for the Self, vol.2, pp.643 etc.)
Apparently baby Connster is so upset by this she's gone back to Bible-coding to regain her sense of control. Sorry Con, I just shook my magic 8 ball to check on your future, and this is what I got:
Feel free and take a moment to learn more about the true face of psychosis by reading the full update: http://www.thetruthaboutconnie.blogspot.com/
Great synopsis Ollie Reader! It's interesting to watch from afar how similar Connie and her father are in so many ways especially their loathing of anyone in authority.
ReplyDeleteA video with some of Tim's rage in court is found here.
http://thetruthaboutconnie.blogspot.com/2013/08/alleged-serial-child-rapist-tim-bedwell.html
Not to bleed over here sorry a summarization to the last post can be summarized at this, " think, with a three year old, I would think long and hard about involving any government agency. Too often they do more harm than good and I see no point in taking that chance" No trust in the government at all. So what happens you turn into raging narcissistic wanting everyone to do as you do and "would most likely "handle" the situation on my own anyway" WTH is what I say. We need to start getting people to understand that not everyone is against then then we would not have the hate like this.
ReplyDeleteDoesn't matter if he doesn't "get" you. His effort reflects that he "gets" us, which we appreciate.
DeleteI think NBTDT's comment was to a troll and not Sean.
DeleteSuzieQ, Ginger isn't deleting you. I am. And frankly I don't care if you go away, but I am going to keep deleting you existence whenever I please. I was given permission. :-)
DeleteDon't care. I will delete you when I get around to it. No worries. You will find the bottom of the bin either way. You can assume I am a transvestite in a feather boa for all I care. You are still a troll.
DeleteYou don't seem to understand the process, it's not a matter of "protection".
DeleteI haven't gone back to look, but I hope Ollie hit the delete the button on your comments re: LNM's post. That was tacky and just plain mean. Your mother should have told you: if you can't find something nice to say, then don't say anything at all.
And, she's gone....
DeleteThat one stayed. LMN had too good of a response.
DeleteBut, I am new here. Whatdoiknow?
Deleteno need to explain tacky and mean to you snoozan, you seem to have a great grasp on it, you may even have cornered the market.
DeleteSorry Oreader, had to
@ OReader: yeah, I went back to look. I agree, LNM had a pretty good come back. Glad to see she took that "honest critique" for what it was worth.
DeleteThe troll is determined to prove herself crazy.
Delete**shrugs** I'm so pleased Pizza Hut still has the Book It program and Texas still has the Young Author's Conference. Were any of you selected to go? I was. I was so blessed to be a student at NSISD. The future belongs to children and what we can give them includes literacy. I'm not interested in the opinions of those who tear down the younger generations.
Deleteand that's still my favorite picture of the Conster! You're hilarious Oreader.
ReplyDeleteShe needs to shave.
DeleteI'm not going to tell her, she looks a bit ummm nutty!
DeleteBill is living in or near Quanah Texas.
ReplyDeleteBill Windsor
about an hour ago
BILL WINDSOR OF LAWLESS AMERICA PHOTOGRAPHS THE WORLD'S LARGEST BLACK HIGH-TOP TENNIS SHOE WITH YELLOW LACES OUTSIDE AN ANTIQUE SHOP -- AUGUST 31, 2013 - SOMEWHERE IN AMERICA.
I had to hook a U to grab this snapshot. I took a lot of interesting sights today. I'll share them after I am long gone to a new location.
It's 10 pm, and I have reached my destination. I plan to hang out here and work for the next month or two, with a few short excursions planned.
The temperature hit 108 as I drove today.
I will be writing a major update report and will record it as well. Sometime this week.
William M. Windsor
nobodies@att.net
LOL- so now the pieman is going to be off for a month or two. Promise Bill?
ReplyDeleteBut then a two lines later, he will be releasing a major update.
How about you find the biggest rock in your area, and climb under it Bill? Send us the photo.
LMAO- love the picture and the article. Conster has reached a new level of frantic. She is spinning out conspiracies, teaching religious lessons, talking about bible codes and how special she is, and telling the world she will be getting her child back.
ReplyDeleteAll while looking for media coverage. Always a good idea to share the crazy while trying to get the media to listen.... R.O.F.L.M.A.O. giggle snort- you go Connie, this is sure to work out!
Connie posted a new video on her FB from a news clip. What is wrong with this chick? She's standing there, flipping her hair, with an ear to ear grin. Her facial expressions and mannerisms are not in sync to the circumstances. She showed no signs of real concern for her dad being innocent.
DeleteAlso, how can she be so certain that her own child was abused, yet she lost that case, and her father is innocent, and dismisses the evidence against him. She wasn't there with him in the room when he was allegedly abusing those other kids. She looks completely stupid saying she's a witness. She is probably sinking his case even further. What I see is someone over compensating to divert guilt. Interesting that she is blaming the mother for 'coaching' the kids, when she was blamed for the same thing.
I saw this post on Connie's FB page. One of her pals saw the irony:
DeleteDana Youknowwho hmmm, so your dad is accused of molestation, that's wierd you are now on the receiving end, sort of,-- defending someone close to you. how did they get so far as to prosecute, and what is their evidence? why are they accusing him? i mean they don't just prosecute everyone accused. what do the children say?
August 27 at 4:22am
More irony, did you read her "Dear Pedophile" 2011 note and the comments? She just had the wrong defendant in mind.
DeleteAlso, didn't daddy Windsor ground all the lemmings from having contact with those he deemed haters? She sure has a lot of lemming friends.
Yeah, I saw that too. She doesn't know what normal emotional responses are. She sat in court grinning, she is on camera smiling and being cheerful. She has no one to mimic, and she doesn't react normally. It's seen in other videos too.
DeleteThis is a horrific case, it's not funny, or cheerful. Any other person would be serious, and emphatic and plead innocence. But not Connie, she laughs and smiles and sites conspiracies. She won't even understand this post. She definitely doesn't help her father.
Read the conspiracy theory on her FB. She believes this 'conspiracy' against her father is driven by payouts from California, and that Placer County is doing this to her and her father because they are afraid of her. That the cops, DA, defense attorneys and the judge are all in on it. WTF is she talking about?
It's her narcissism, she believes she is that important. LMAO. Just like Bill, anyone who doesn't agree with her is 'corrupt'. Everything is some grand conspiracy against her/Bill. She gives out advice to other mothers in custody issues and screws up their cases. She calls herself and expert, just like Bill. She had a paypal button for donations. It goes on and on. They are so alike it's ridiculous.
She keeps saying she will get her daughter back too. Not possible, she had her rights terminated. She is not allowed any contact with her child. She is deluded and narcissistic.
All of this is my opinion...LOL- that's for you CONster, since I know you will read this.
Getting back to this kind of crazy is a nice break from the other kind of crazy we've been seeing. But I did not miss the word "pedophile" being thrown around.
DeleteI went back to look at the 2011 comments under "Dear Pedophile 2011". At the very end, Joey Dauben posted a link to the ECO, no comment, just a link. For kicks & grins I clicked on it. hahahahahahahaha - has photos of ECSO & ROPD badges and says:
under the authority of chapter 59, tex. code crim. proc. This domain was seized by the Red Oak, Texas police department and forfeited to the State of Texas. A judicial determination was made that this domain was used in the commission of a felony offense under the laws of the state of Texas.
Oh I missed that. Hahahaha
DeleteKeep going down for more recent comments, like this one "Jeff N Sarah Your daddy is in jail and won't ever be free again.... you are a false prophetess. The prophecy of Deuteronomy 28:32 has befallen you, and you have been wholly stripped."
Of course CONnie has her narcissistic spin but the reality is there as well as the truth, and she can't "bible code" (manipulate) facts.
Since Bill is gone are you guys selecting your new target? It look like it.
DeleteLOL 12:41 Connie is not a new target. She had Joey Dauben write up bullsh*t articles a couple years ago.
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Delete@ 12:41 - aside from the fact that Connie is not new to us, she put HERSELF back in the news, literally. She defines herself as a "public figure". Fair game.
DeleteLOL silly anon 12:41, Billy the Pie isn't gone, he is just in limbo while he plots and schemes his super secret next filing/stalking venture.
DeleteAnd interestingly, it was my dealings with Connie that led me to Bill. And NBTDT is right about Connie, she believes she is news worthy and seeks out media attention, and has done so for years. She posted excessively about her life, and her accusations, and her conspiracy theories. There is litter all over the internet about Connie, much of it written by Connie. She coaches other mothers to do the same thing she did/does. Google is your friend, or check out her 2 FB pages, or her website. That's the thing about narcissists and crazy people, they tend to babble online. LOL
It's easy to see why she and Bill were drawn together. And why they blew apart too LOL.
1:09 It looks like you are on her side. Must be nice to have friends who's father is a baby raper.
DeleteCheck out Lawless America Rhode Island. And she wonders why they took her kids.
ReplyDeleteJust another sad story, and another lemming lost in a world of their own. She has hijacked the LA RI page since it began to post solely about her case, and the details of her struggles with the loss of custody.
DeleteClearly she is suffering, those posts make me sad for her. But I don't really doubt there are reasons that she lost custody. She is a lost soul, and another of those who were led to believe in a miracle from Bill.
She has taken over his twitter account as well. If I was Bill, I wouldn't want my name attached to some of the stuff she post.
DeleteHe doesn't care what anyone posts, all he seems to be interested in now is his own page and his fund raising/stalking.
DeleteIt's been like that for so long. He checked out of all Lawless America concepts except for his personal vendetta quite a while ago.
He even tells the lemmings he is no longer doing their request. I bet that would change if they start paying him to be filmed LOL.
If you poke around at the pages of the lemmings you will find a full assortment of conspiracies, up to and including aliens. It's like he is a magnet for the disturbed reality folks in addition to the lost in court folks.
I never knew about half of these conspiracies until I started watching LA. Wowzer!!
Speaking of crazy people,poor Marty!!!
ReplyDeletehttps://www.facebook.com/marty.prehn.1/posts/10201868242053884
Really? Is he that stupid? How many times has he been told he is flat out wrong? AND putting a woman's name out there that is innocent of what he is claiming. Seriously the rare reporter needs to set Marty straight, he started it with his stupid article.
DeleteYou'd think if Webb hasn't told him that,as he claimed,he'd email special agent Prehn. Maybe Webb should issue him a cease desist & abate!!!
DeleteMarty just loves to hear (or read) himself. He is obviously a loon. And he doesn't mind hurting people.
DeleteHe doesn't care if he is wrong. He just wants to be somehow involved. DW did try to tell him he didn't send Marty and email, just another fantasy Marty made up to explain his linking the article. And Marty just ignores it LOL.
DW didn't go far enough and recant the bogus crap in the article, as usual. I wish he would take down those posts. They are hurting someone because he wants to be special to Bill and discover who Ginger or any of us are. SMH this time Marty's brown nose is hurting the wrong person. He just can't admit he is wrong, any more than the rest of his pals.
LOL - C, D & A. Yep, Marty needs one of those, PDQ. Maybe those who shall not be named will be motivated to help Marty with the facts when one of the Marty lemmings contacts him for "help" (see FB comments).
DeleteCould be why none of them get anywhere with their "cases." They are all wrong, their "evidence" isn't evidence, and they just make stuff up and throw it out there and "that" is their evidence. Just like Bill, just like Connie, just like Cox (who BTW looks a lot to me like that picture Marty posted) just like all the flailing lemmings who say everything is corrupt. Is it really? Or is it you?
DeleteYou have just described the actual problem with the lemmings, and their leaders. Ninja, you nailed it!
DeleteTheir evidence only exists within their own perceptions. This is why they fail, no one else sees it because it doesn't exist. And the more someone doesn't see it the way they do, the more they spew the nonsense and use words like corruption, and conspiracy.
Farty's been busy ...He's posting the above on a a reporter from the Macomb Daily's Facebook wall with this comment ...
DeleteMarty Prehn shared a link."Jamie a topic that needs to have an article written about it Cyber bullying. Another person commits suicide because of the relentless retaliation and negative comments made about a person. It has to stop and those involved in it need to be prosecuted. There is a standinf Cease and Desist order from Texas but it is not being enforced."
Obviously Farty can't read. He is interchanging several different parts of that extremely poorly written piece. Perhaps if that rare reporter didn't jump all over the place, talking about one thing then going on to another, then going back again, small minded people such a Farty and Snoozan could follow along instead of assuming things.
DeleteExactly, Fellow Anon! Except Farty can read but he is so starved for attention and such a sick, twisted little fat fart, that he lies, twists, turns anything he can to make himself look important and inject himself into things he is actually clueless about.
DeleteSo yeah, about Mart the Fart's post. Does he not think his posts about a woman he does not know, who is not involved with the clubhouse are going to push someone who has problems into a worse place.
DeleteMarty- pot, meet kettle. You are pointlessly abusing a woman. You are messing with someone who needs help, not attacks. You are doing it for cheap thrills and attention.
Web, by not correcting his erroneous beliefs and instead only covering your own ass with the 'I did not email you', you are right there with him. You know that's not Ginger.
MArty and company are also upset with the city neighboring mine. I live 3 miles away from the border of Troy, MI.
DeleteOne commenter writes...
"Almost everyone in to any Office in TROY MICHIGAN elected or Non-elected..is a LIBERAL COMPUTER TROLL protected by the City of TROY's l;aw deptment. TROY POLICE"
Furthermore you can read this...
http://www.eclectablog.com/2013/08/disgraced-and-recalled-tea-party-troy-mayor-janice-daniels-is-running-for-troy-city-council.html
The point is Marty is a bleeding tea party member. Make your own conclusions. Last time Sluggo did not like what I said. But the actions of the tea party members I have seem to be overboard and gray line revolutionists.
and this guy who supports those people.
http://youtu.be/-zwEJpDGlHY
Yup, I'm from Birmingham,Mi and you are correct Sean about Mart the Fart and company being upset with apparently the former cop who replaced Daniels as mayor. I saw a the post on his page and several other Facebook pages, mostly media about it and something about missing forty thousand and a (as Mart the Fart put it "High profile sexual assault cover up) by the former cop/now mayor ????? Btw, I heard Mart got that "Special Agent" hat of his from the Salvation Army store.
DeleteMarty must have the FBI and Justice Dept on speed dial. At least once a day he's informing them of something he has discovered. I hope they have caller ID so they can send him to voice mail.
DeleteLOL good one Bob...
DeleteAnd Anon 8:01 I hope Marty picked up a new magic decoder ring too...cos he sucks at comprehension.
Lol, Bob ... Hopefully they "FBI-DOJ" have Marty in special file as a psycho and stalker, the wacko just posted again about them "being notified" about some other bizarre thing, Marty is trying to involve himself in. I found the Troy post, boy can Marty embellish who he knows or what?
Delete"More of the pieces of the puzzle are coming to light as to why Janice Daniels needed to be removed from the office of Mayor of Troy as she opposed this transit idea. What is VERY interesting is the connection between now Mayor Dane Slater and his relationship with Chris Ilitch and the cover up of the rape and near strangulation of Ron Ilitch's girlfriend Lissa Wood by then Captain Dane Slater of the Troy police department and how he has been rewarded and compensted for making that case disappear. Where did that $40,000 in drug money go? Why the need to remove 10-15 boxes of police files that are property ofhe Troy Police Department. How many other crimes had been committed by members of the Troy Police Department. This story is about to explode wide open as the FBI and DOJ have now taken an interest to what had gone on and it appears that fraud and corruption is NOT just south of 8 mile and that the former Mayor of Detroit Kwame Kilpatrick was not the only one who had his friends commit crimes of fraud and corruption while he was on his throne believing that he was untouchable. It looks like Mayor Dane Slater has alot of explaining to do to Robert Foley and Barbara McQuade in a federal probe into Transitgate and Slatergate"
I don't have anything to say. Just tired of the last comment on this page ^^^^.
ReplyDeleteI found an obit for Trish:
http://www.examiner.com/article/detroit-film-community-mourns-the-loss-of-jet-trish-kraus
That is a beautiful obit. I had no idea she did so many projects.
DeleteThanks NBTDT :)
Marty Prehn shared a link.
ReplyDelete2 hours ago ·
So I don't know who I am Fuc?ing with? Oh but I think that I do. It is interesting that the name of the driver of the car is not named but is named in the police report that I was able to obtain. It looks like he finally did succeed in killing his wife with a cocktail of Antifreeze. BTW there is NO statute of limitation for murder but this article does help to show previous intent and a motive. Now he has come to Michigan and threatening someone else and take them to hell with him. The FBI and the Department of Justice have been notified. Gee I wonder where he is living since he moved to Michigan to commit yet another murder. News at 11.
DW is at it again, via Marty the Moron...
ReplyDeleteI cant figure out what marty has to do with the story he posted. A guy in wyoming who tried to kill his wife and... Marty and the FBI are tied to this how?
ReplyDeletewith imaginary string
DeleteMarty uses a lot of it
Names used by this retard have been abbreviated...
ReplyDeleteMarty Prehn
To DW. Just to clarify no one sent an e-mail using your name that I am aware of. I had googled M's name and your article showed up and I shared it on fb as I have the same suspicions that you do about some of the anonymous posters and who they really are and the IP addresses confirm that. Ginger Snap had taken on many identities and under different names and has gone out of her way to convince people that Ginger Snap is a male. This . It appears she at times had also accused her father who resides in Colorado and is a police chief that he molested both her and her sister Allie or Ollie who is currently in the Army over in England M has stated that her sister is a known lesbian which M seems to have a hard time coming to terms with. The connection between M and Gingersnap comes from M referring to the mental institution where she was committed to several times against her will as the Gingerbread house. Khaki the reference to her having to pay out alot of money comes from another article that I shared where another person who defied a court order not to post on fb or any other blogsight was hit with a multi million dollar fine for restitution and punitive damages. Daphlia the Saint of the Insane. This explains alot.
Hi Spamanon!
DeleteMarty needs to stop sniffing the glue.
at least we now know his patron saint.
DeleteThe Gingerbread House mental institution? I thought it was a children's advocacy group.
Deleteyes, it appears to be an advocacy group, but facts don't bother marty pants. The ef bee eye will figure it all out for him. He has them on speed dial.
DeleteThis version of Marty's story reminds me of when OReader used to plug players into a program and some wild conspiracy theory would pop out. It's every bit as wild and almost as funny. LMAO at the last sentence "This explains alot."
Deletelol, I know what you are talking about NBTDT...and yes maybe this explains a lot...
Delete;) bwhahahahahaa
Marty is a crazy ass liar. Here is a post he made a few minutes ago.
ReplyDelete"Marty Prehn To David Webb. Just to clarify no one sent an e-mail using your name that I am aware of."
This is the post he made several days ago, thanking DW for sending it to him.
"Marty Prehn shared a link.
August 23.
David Webb thank you for tsending me this very informative article that you wrote."
Marty is delusional and a liar.
Farty is just a brazen liar ... David W is now responding to Liar, Liar Mart the Fart ... "So I hear everyone over at JIALK is clamoring for The Rare Reporter to take down the referenced story, and they are calling it names such as "bogus crap." The story is an accurate reflection of court documents. If GS & Cronies are so concerned about someone falsely being identified as GS, why don't they prove it? Come out of the closet GS. Not doing it indicates you have something to hide, or it shows a complete disregard for the "poor woman" you are referencing. While you are at it, why don't all of you come out into the sunlight, instead of sniping about people from behind pseudonyms?
ReplyDeleteFor the record, I do not know the identity of GS."
I cant figure out what marty has to do with the story he posted. A guy in wyoming who tried to kill his wife and... Marty and the FBI are tied to this how?
ReplyDeleteit doesn't have a connection. oddly it is an old story from 2006
DeleteBill just posted pics of the jeep. He has removed all of the LA decals. It's now just a regular plain jeep. Makes me wonder what he's planning to do and wants to be harder to identify. Things that make you say hmmm.
ReplyDeleteYeah, and he "needs to get a Duck Dynasty beard because he's so recognizable" (or something to that effect).
DeletePaparazzi just swamping him no matter what state.
Mental illness can be entertaining if you remove the pity part...
Bob - perhaps he's figured out that 5150 is just around the corner?
DeleteBob - perhaps he's figured out that 5150 is just around the corner?
DeleteSo it appears that Maria Melinn and Friends have made a large post calling myself a cyber stalker and terrorist. Must be the new thing to call people who can not deal with others who dislike what they post about themselves on a public forum. But that is ok. The facts are that the FCC has no jurisdiction over youtube. I have never impersonated a judge. Here is her post here http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=10mll08&s=5 . In the time I used this alias I had many people think she was someone else. Why because they did not know who she was. They thought she was a agent of the government, a Judge, someones family member. They thought all sorts of crazy ideas about Ms. Crocker. It was all really a test to show that these people who are on these pages are paranoid and start any crazy rumor and think they know it all. Maria and others who post their stories on FB pages, and blogs on the internet should be aware that others will comment all we want about your personal life. It is not stalking, you invited it. Your asking for the entire world to come check you out twittering the world about your case. A far cry from terrorism or stalking.
ReplyDeleteIn light of this I am worn out arguing over non-sense that is meaningless. Because bill is right. these people are nobodies well at least to the rest of the world. If you disagree with them about what they advertised and news flashed all over and whatnot your wrong. It is like someone telling your going to hell for not believing in Jesus or a traitor for liking the government or whatever.
I have decided to spend the rest of my time of my life without the drama addicts of Facebook and the internet. While I don't mind talking about news and other hollywood gossip nobody cares to talk about the cases of others. And personally I don't think they care.
So, like they say in shark tank the show, IM out. Good luck peeps. You can watch the youtube vids. Final thoughts is that it was interesting to see Bills org dissolve. To find people who spread untruths about things and people who bash each other 24x7 a day.
Sean don't let them do this to you or they win, that's what the bullies want. They couldn't accomplish it here on the blog so they took it elsewhere.
DeleteWhat they've done is abusive and sick. Let them all rot in their hell!
DeleteSean, I was named in that protection order too, LOL.
DeleteI'm a third party abuser apparently. As is the journalist from the Washington Times who wrote that article about Maria...
Yep, we're allll "working" for her ex..LOL.
Poor Maria can't handle a few sites with legit docs to counter her absolute BS and has flew off the deep end.
Apparently her and Lori H are conspiring to try shut us up.
Won't happen.
Anyway, I can't view the vids of Connies dad from Ireland. Boooo.
HEY DIPSHIT...I KNEW it was you the whole time. Don't you remember I called you Sarah Crocker? Of course not, you're too busy up peoples asses and if you intend to continue I have a screen capture of TriXXXie your BBW love addiction that will fit nicely into your whole hating of women or prostitutes as you refer to them. Keep talking El Bloato you're about to get bitch slapped.
DeleteDipshit? No you did not LOL. First that is not what it said on my screen. LOL. You think that is what it says. No women are trixxx LOL. Your absolutely nuts. From this I can tell that you thought my Crocker experiment was someone else just by this. You even once said my Sarah was Sarah from the UK. LOL. That was hilarious. If you want to know, A BBW is a big Beautiful Woman. I understand that many women over size 10 believe they are over weight. I do not have to explain to you my personal life about This BBW thing.
DeleteThe simple fact of Sarah Crocker is that anyone could be a made up name or a real person with a real life not interested but with an opinion against or not for your cause and if they respond to the information put out by lori handrahans or the Maria Melinns or the Deanna Kloostra or the Loryn Ryders in life who post all of their life and the story they are advocating on line and if I or someone as in a fake person who could be a real person disagrees they are a pedophile, a government spy. etc. I knew you would call Sarah all of that because you do that to every outsider that comes there and says something or questions about it. When you all post in public news stories and propaganda them with your your junk, the commenters say something you tell them they don't know nothing and that they are wrong. Its really sorry. Some of these people want to run for political office.
Deletehere is the the screen shot re construcuted http://i41.tinypic.com/17zmko.jpg
DeleteDoes not say Trixxxie LOL
Thought you were leaving?
DeleteIgnore them Sean, they're bullies and they're pissed you spoke up about their precious Allie.
DeletePie Man Zombie HunterFebruary 17, 2013 at 5:56 PM
Delete@sean how is Sarah croker doing?
Sean D. FlemingFebruary 17, 2013 at 9:26 PM
I do not know who Sarah Crocker is. Who is she some nut case tied to Maria Melinn? I am a political Commentator who follows politics in Michigan. I have nothing to from you PMZH whomever you are. Sarah, I am not familiar with anything more indepth with who or what AMPP is. I Just wanted to leave a comment of how I love this page that was all. It was interesting reading.
Stop harassing Fleming, he's done nothing wrong. I know who Walter Windsor on FB was, do you want me to put it out here making it easier for ..........................
DeleteSay the word.
Melinn belongs in hell for what she did to her baby boy.
Most of us know who Walter was. It wasn't very hard to figure out.
DeleteFarty is just a brazen liar ... David W is now responding to Liar, Liar Mart the Fart ... "So I hear everyone over at JIALK is clamoring for The Rare Reporter to take down the referenced story, and they are calling it names such as "bogus crap." The story is an accurate reflection of court documents. If GS & Cronies are so concerned about someone falsely being identified as GS, why don't they prove it? Come out of the closet GS. Not doing it indicates you have something to hide, or it shows a complete disregard for the "poor woman" you are referencing. While you are at it, why don't all of you come out into the sunlight, instead of sniping about people from behind pseudonyms?
ReplyDeleteFor the record, I do not know the identity of GS."
Farty is just a brazen liar ... David W is now responding to Liar, Liar Mart the Fart ... "So I hear everyone over at JIALK is clamoring for The Rare Reporter to take down the referenced story, and they are calling it names such as "bogus crap." The story is an accurate reflection of court documents. If GS & Cronies are so concerned about someone falsely being identified as GS, why don't they prove it? Come out of the closet GS. Not doing it indicates you have something to hide, or it shows a complete disregard for the "poor woman" you are referencing. While you are at it, why don't all of you come out into the sunlight, instead of sniping about people from behind pseudonyms?
ReplyDeleteFor the record, I do not know the identity of GS."
You have to be fricking kidding me. This is absolutely insane This woman ties this freak Bedwell with Dauben as a conspiracy story. The only tie between these two are 1. They are both predators of children and 2. They both have a first class ticket to HELL. 3. Connie is 2 for 2 in supporting future state correctional facility inmates.
ReplyDeleteDorothy Price Hill
"No, in the Empire State. But I have many relatives, friends, college classmates, biz associates in CA from San Diego to SanFran. I have followed this case closely as there are parallels in NY and also with Joey in TX (imprisoned by a DA who was angry he was reporting on major human/sex/child trafficking rings that went up to sr ranks of gov't officials and energy executives). Awful sick stuff. They imprisoned him falsely to SILENCE "
Connie, YOU are absolutely insane to exploit those children with those videos but that is what you do best. Go To Hell!
Dorothy, I think is just mentally disturbed conspiracy monger.
DeleteConnie is about as evil as they come.
Connie seems to enjoy having convicted sex offenders around her. It seems a few of her of her friends and followers online have no issue with convicted rapists either!
DeleteIf they think it's FUNNY when Connie is brutally attacking the child rape victims and abusing them using cyberspace to accomplish inflicting pain then it's time to show what her little gang is all about! What Connie continues to do is as vile and hideous as her father raping these poor little souls! But as you will discover, she's scraping the bottom of the barrel with her sick little gang!
Some of you will be shocked to find out because of Connie's ANTICS AND DRAMA, there were some police reports filed in the past several months. It seems because of her "screaming" I see pedophiles everywhere, the child rapists have come out of the woodwork and "friended" Connie! These sick men have taken some of Connie's online (now former friends) children's photos and are passing them around.
This was found at thetruthaboutconnie.blogspot.com
Delete@ Anon 1.07 am.... Dorothy Price Hill is certifiable.
DeleteI've butted heads with her over Lori Handrahan..
She loves a good conspiracy.
Don't expect a reasonable, logical statement to ever come from her brain.
It makes me ill thinking about how f'd up these crazy ass people are. I know some people are sympathetic to people like Dauben but I'm not one of them. People like him, Windsor and this "Jewish" wannabe Bedwell deserve everything they have coming to them. None of them have a conscience and all have delusions of grandeur at everyone else's expense. One wanted to be president, one a filmmaker/food critic and the other one's sole purpose is to tell everyone that she is Jewish.
DeleteThis most recent video appears to be this Tim interviewing these children. WTF is he interviewing these children apparently years ago even he was living there if he was this great father? Just a layman's observation, but that video shoes how fucking ruthless and demented that family is. He films it and has probably his most violated victim post it for him. Are people so fucking insane they believe the shit that comes from this Connie without asking a question? They discuss the case and make jokes about the testimony? I realize that most of Connie's supporters are either woman who are just as fucked up.as her or guys that want to bang her and will say whatever to get a shot at the "swinging-door-queen" (even little Joey wanted to ride that train, i guess to experience knew things) but Geezus H Christ they are so fucked up in the head.
Please excuse me while i go vomit.
there are many of CONnie's followers that are just in it to adore her. There are many more who are into every variety of conspiracy theory, including CONnie. Then there are the other mothers who are in the process of, or already have lost custody.
DeleteConnie's advice to them all is to put online pages in their child's name out there with every graphic detail they can muster, including pictures to the minor children. To slam their ex in any and every way they can online. To include her expert(rolls eyes) testimony in court if possible. To ignore gag orders or any other court order.
Do you know how many women who followed that advice have had parental rights terminated or restricted?
There has been no success following the Bedwell method of court interactions. Not one, and especially not her own. She had her parental rights terminated. She hasn't seen or spoken to her daughter in 4 years now. Why anyone would follow her instructions is beyond me.
I watched the video. What I saw was children who had been coached. This came off to me, as a man who was trying to make an alibi video. Plain and simple. If this woman was what he made the kids say she was, then why didn't he report her? Why didn't he leave?
DeleteThose children don't deserve to be exploited by Connie on her FB page. It doesn't prove a damn thing to me, and if anyone looked at it objectively, they would probably see the same thing as I did. Coached kids, one who actually looked intimidated and scared and the other one, so young, can't look at the camera because she knows she isn't telling the truth.
I feel so bad for these kids. I am glad Connie can't see hers, if she thinks exploitation is acceptable.
Marty the Moron, hot on the trail of everyone;
ReplyDelete"To Bob Lookoput there is no confusion here as the FCC has been monitoring all of the comments made on the Joey blog and my long posts were done purposefully to get the other bloggers to stay on the site long enough to get a fix on their individual IP address's"
I'm guessing he's thinking of the three minutes he sees on TV to get a phone trace...
Told you guys that he is absolutely insane, but worse than that, he is insane with internet access!
Yea you were dead on that. He is a "special" agent
ReplyDeleteGinger the funny thing is when I call the regional FCC office on tuesday and speak to them. I have actually met the director there at a meeting before when they gave us some information for Amateur radio. Marty is full of it. If anything the FBI could be wiretapping him. I do know the FCC has a listening post that they use that can segment a radio signal anywhere in the world. When I call I am going to make sure they know he is having imaginary conversations and talking about agents threatening people with legal stuff. Interesting.
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I am even more disgusted by connie's video of children who are the victims in her fathers child abuse/rape trial.
ReplyDeleteHow dare she expose these children on her website and in this video. She has no right to put minor children who are not her own on display, or use their names, or publish anything about them.
She will probably do even more reveals once/if her father is convicted this week.
Her father chose not to take the stand, and speak on his own behalf. He has himself to blame for that, as the judge asked him directly if he wished to testify(it's court procedure).
As usual, connie and her father have been spinning this as some conspiracy with Placer County, and all the cops and judges and prosecutors, and well you get the picture. The world is against them. LOL- like she is important, and special, when clearly she isn't.
I an disgusted by Connie, and her never ending attacks on innocent people.
Lost your FCC license? Inquiring minds want to know and since you opened up this can of worms prepare for more interesting tidbits about your scummy life. http://childendangermentalerts.wordpress.com/malicious-pseudo-advocates/sean-david-fleming/
ReplyDeleteYes Anon bring it on. Tidbits about my scummy life. Sweet. They will just be comments I have made in disbelief about your issues that are summarized in what I've posted here on this board. So your going to stalk all my info on the internet. Find out that I'm some normal dude with an opinion and then what? Call the FCC to complain saying I post on the internet and make youtube videos? Good Luck. Here is my stance. As I have said and will say again it is my right to have an opinion about the overstreet case or anyones case. BTW I have watched people take down women who disagree. Isn't what the AMPP verse PMA is all about women who are at each other because of who thinks what oh yeah a big giant same sex battle online. How many times must the police go over and over the stuff that she says? Here is what I am going to do. I am going to start a playlist on youtube about these matters today just for you. It it will be like a Rush limbaugh or a Sean hannity type of thing. Thanks for the inspiration.
DeleteSean, just curious who your friend here is?
DeleteThey really don't make much sense. Always makes people look legit when they post hit/hate lists and addresses of anyone they disagree with. Usually means they have no evidence of anything, or have been ruled against in court.
Especially when they support people like Maria.
@ 1:23 - all you've done is reinforce an already very bad opinion of your scummy life. Y'all call yourselves advocates for women and children but all I see is that you are advocates for bulling and your own special brand of abuse. After months of reading the crap you post and attacks you make on people, it's easy to see why you have no credibility as individuals or an organization.
DeleteAnd while I'm on a roll - all that BS you spout about "extreme father's rights" and shared parenting all looks and sounds like uncontrolled, irrational anger and hatred. You are hurting the true victims of abuse, preventing them from being heard. After nearly 9 months of the garage you spew, I am now skeptical of any woman claiming DV or that her child was sexually abused by her partner. She has YOU to thank for that. What I see is two parents caught in a power struggle, neither willing to concede for the benefit and welfare of raising a well adjusted kid. I am glad I'm old enough not to have suffer through a society run by the children you are producing.
You're on a roll? I've just started. You chastise others for posting anonymously when this is the exact reason you do it, out of fear. Why not tell us your real names? Hiding behind your fake character names is cowardly. You have no idea who I am and who you think I am is wrong. With that I bid you all adieu and farewell to thee. You are all nothing but gossiping little people who hide behind a blog with truly nothing better to do today or any day for that matter.
Delete@ 1:57 - that's one the most stupid posts I've ever seen. Most of us were posting under screen names long before you ever heard of us. I did so to protect myself from Joey. After seeing what you "protective moms" do to people that don't share your opinion - i.e look at the post to hurt Fleming, we have a much greater need to fear YOU than you have to fear us. Don't let the internet door hit you in the ass on the way out...
DeleteLOL- um yeah, exactly proving how lame you are Anon, bitching about using screen names (consistently used ones) while posting as an Anon and harassing people.
DeleteThe only chastising of Anons here happens when there is more than one and they are posting to each other. It gets confusing.
NO ONE here needs to identify themselves with their real name, because we don't care, and don't need that info. We have been posting with each other long enough to 'know' each other. It's only the stalkers and freaks that demand real life info in order to harass people.
If you don't like discussion about you or your cases, don't post the information online. We here at Joey's A little Kid tend to vet the info, and find actual independent sources. It always messes you up when you post skewed one sided attacks against others.
As usual, hit the big red X and find a place less stressful for yourself. You obviously can't do simple discussion of Facts.
I agree NBTDT-- now if I see that term 'protective mom' I roll my eyes, and don't even bother. All the cases I have delved into that used that term were never able to pass any review of the actual facts and court records. In fact, some of them were the worst cases of lying and false accusations I have run across.
DeleteIt does hurt those who really are in a bad situation, who really did get bad treatment from the court(some had no legal help with their cases), or really had reason to scream.
It's sad that these rage filled women have hurt those most in need. It's sad that the ones hurt are usually children.
LOL-I give two shits about who any of you are, but you can't have it both ways, give others shit for posting anonymously and then hiding from JOEY who is in PRISON now...LMAO. What is there to fear from him now?? LOL
DeleteYou have proven what this blog is really about. It's not about Joey, it's not even about Windsor anymore. It's about a group of peeps from TX who insist on inserting their opinion about others. Good for you, you have an opinion! My opinion has never changed about you all. You send your minister of Alpacanda when when you need to reign in the few dissenters but I see her rarely posting here anymore anyways. You have he right to your opinions and so does everyone else (has Windsor rubbed off on ya?) It was fun watching people watching other people. Not so much anymore. NBTDT you are a petty son of a bitch who dislikes any opinion of anyone else. How sad your life must really be. Trust me I won't be back, the direction in which you should all fuck is off. Now back to your gossiping rag you call a blog. Make sure you google Sean Fleming and Sarah Crocker together, that's some good stuff right there, lying prick.
I thought you already said your good byes...
DeleteLOL, you have the right to your opinion too. ANON. So why is it you are here? Oh yeah, to attack someone who disagrees with your version of reality.
You really are confused about the purpose of a blog aren't you? And no one sends our Alpaca anywhere. LOL, she is a free range Alpaca and can go anywhere and say anything she wants.
So far all you have done is rant, if you have facts to base things on, have at it.
She put her son in an forensic interview on youtube basically for the world to see and then when it was questioned someone told me that it was overseen by a Dr. who is named Judith Faye. So I look at the database for licenses and she does not have one. This woman Judith Faye ran for commissioner like Deanna Kloostra did and lost. Kloostra came out with a conspiracy theory that the voting machines were rigged based on a mistake on the county website. Furthermore Kloostra was participating in removing signs from certain candidates and tampering with signs along with asking voters to take photographs of the their voting cards while at the machine before submitting them and filing it at the clerks office. Hence there are to be no cameras in the voting areas. These are the people you want elected? I'm bashing women who shout on a street corner at the court that federal funds are buying custody and have elaborate schemes. Seriously, Should I go on about them? About how they Abused Swan are against men and families overall. How they Maria makes an 12 hour ride to DC but complains of waiting 5 hours for court at the court house. I don't dispute the fact that her and her husband equally hit each other probably. And at the same time after the back incident they also had sex and had a kid. Just like I don't buy into Kloostra elaborate conspiracy that 5/3 bank is giving loans to give money to judges etc. I don't believe in Lori Handrahan's case that the government is child trafficking. I don't believe that loryn Ryders child is being abused daily. I don't believe Maria's claim that she put out that her child is in danger. I don't believe a lot of things that are out there put on websites by people. It just so happens a majority of those people are women. I also know I don't believe Bill's or schied's ideas about corruption nor I don't believe info wars and all those people who post all of their crap on the facebook timelines. So if I talk about it that makes me a woman hating cyber terrorist? PFFFFFT.
DeleteOceans, NBTDT & Sean, the only reason they're attacking in rage on the blog is because the guilty hate being exposed for what they are.
DeleteNo one ever said this blog was only about Joey or Windsor. Give your head a shake and get off the blog if you don't like it.
2:28 sounds like Lorraine Tipton Trashing Petunia huh.
DeleteDo you know that the author of harry potter wrote an entire book using a fictitious name. Many people have fictitious names. Sarah Crocker was a good one. It really proved the fact that yourselves were hell bent on taking her down because she advocated against you as i stated that I don't buy into the junk spewed. It would be different if the police charged someone with a crime. Your defense is that those people who beat us up and are committing DV against up are getting away with it due to the good ole buddy network int he police corruption so I want to join forces with bill windsor until a time that he says I don't believe you. Maybe it was the loryn Ryder videos of her child crying in the car during a handoff to the other parent that was over the top. It is just like NBTDT says most of these issues are custody battles that the parents cant get along so a child will never have normalcy or peace until they are 18. Sometimes it is best to remove the child from this arguing. Do you think it is right to keep a child in a situation where there is fighting all the time or with someone with such anger or with some bashing mean hatred person? I don't think that great moral support of being a person to look up to as a parental mentor. This goes for men and women.
Delete@ 2:28 Petunia was right, she said you'd be back before dark. You got one think right, I am a petty son of bitch that can't stand bullies and unprovoked attacks on people. You have no interest in expressing or discussing an opinion. You try to con people into believing a bunch of BS. When you fail, you try to beat your BS into them. When that fails, you attack. Attack away honey, that won't change either one of us - I will still stand up to bullies and you will still be one.
DeleteLoryn Ryder has a gag order on her, if she's online spewing her bullshit story she's in a lot of trouble.
DeleteWell I know for a fact that PMZH is a melinn supporter. I think Sarah can attest to that fact. Melinn, Loryn Ryder, Lori Handrahan, and Susan Wigglesworth AKA PMZH have campaigned together. Along with Marias friends who I am not sure who they all are but they don't follow court rules like windsor does. They record phone conversations, they also take cameras into court when your not suppose to. There is a reason why some courts are in private. Protecting what is said its personal. Of course these people dislike you saying anything against their case. So if they had court for instance at the downtown courtyard for all to see and then people had to give an opinion and it was against them then what?
DeleteThis is why NBTDT that they will never change anything. What lawmaker is going to sit with these advocates and talk about change when they will fry the lawmaker for not making changes they want or doing as they say. Sound familiar? Bill Windsor? If they dislike you they try to make a moral defamation of you. I wish I had the youtube comments up. But, One time Melinn and Klootra made remarks on my youtube video and in public comment that I was drunk and on drugs. I spoke to the attorneys who did work for kloostra that she does not like because they did not get what she wants and all and she did the same thing to them said they were drunks. Kloostra said the entire staff of the county government were drunks. Were talking about people who disparage attorneys and then give legal advice to women for the cases. They are really borderline giving legal advice illegally.
DeleteI want to know is Bedwell Jewish or a messianic Jew? There is a difference.
DeleteFurthermore Kloostra was participating in removing signs from certain candidates and tampering with signs along with asking voters to take photographs of the their voting cards while at the machine before submitting them and filing it at the clerks office.
DeleteUmmm all of that is illegal. She should have faced charges for it, as well as those who took photographs of voting.
and yeah, I really do understand the attacks are because you disagree and post conflicting information to what they want out there. Add Connie Bedwell to your list of mothers exploiting their child because they lost in court.
She's messianic Jew Sean, her baby raping father spent time with the House of Yahweh in Texas many years ago.
DeleteConnie claims to be messianic Jew. She also claims to be an expert on child abuse and a genius. LOL
Deletegoogle up that House of Yahweh. Scary. All of connie's religious training comes from her father.
DeleteOh for Christ Sake, OY VEH! Just Joking. I was channeling my Jewish side there. I am no comedian. You know Melinn makes references to Hitler along with other Jewish verbage. She is also Messianic. If you ask her she is Christian but has a complete Jewish Bible. This is where I believe in opinion again that a child can have a screwed up sense of religious identity. Judaism and Christianity have two very different ideologies. No you can not have both because they do not support each other at all. Having a dual home where as you celebrate both is different. I can be a jew celebrating Christmas just to share the joy of a holiday with my friends etc. It's not my belief but it is my sharing who they are as a friend etc. Messianics are people who are wanting to encompass both religions for some added benefit. If I went by Maria Melina understanding of who a Hebrew was we are all Hebrew because we all were descendants of God etc. But also we would be African Americans or at least I would be because Jews once lived in Egypt Hence Africa. Even though the africans Americans speak of are Tribal black people from central Africa and not Arab county decent. Anyhow, I also note that every Messianic that I have spoken to home schools for the most part because they despise the government. They have traits of people who like to revolt against any normal or major ideas. Just my experiences.
DeleteANON at 3:13 you are probably right there are probably great messianic people. But there seem at least everyone I meet has some hidden agenda that they want to convert us Jews using their Jewish half. IDK. Christianity is proven to me in its own writings to be an oxymoronic religion at least what is taught by Paul. Add on the fact that most empires of the world have killed others who are not of the main stream religion and that if you pay attention that every Christian Republican who ran for the GOP primary wanted to make an amendment to the constitution to instil religion domination into America. Crazy. I dont like talking religion but my point is that it is used by these people as a pitty party type of thing. YOUR ON US JEWS. type of thing.
DeleteWell that's your beliefs Sean and I believe in freedom of religion and even those who are atheists. Everyone is free to live life how they feel as long as they do not use their religion or lack thereof to hurt others. Simple.
DeleteThere's nothing wrong with not wanting society to be inflicted on our children either. I'm a parent that restricts a lot of TV, much of youtube and the videos' video games, etc. What happens to their brains as they grow up will be hardwired. There's a whole lot that is wrong with our society as is with many other nations out there.
There's also nothing wrong with homeschooling children. but if it takes place of completely separating their child from the rest of the children around them, they won't be able to function well as an adult or handle situations they are completely unfamiliar with.
Life is about balance and the great thing about USA is we have freedom of choice! There's not "one right way" to raise a child but it's my hope parents do their best to send a healthy well balanced educated adult who will contribute to society, not want to cause great harm to others ....
as we see in Windsor, Connie Bedwell, Melinn, etc.
here is what I am talking about
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Seriously, she is using it to say the judge is like hitler and she is this poor woman. Common. and I am bashing her? She is like an advocate and also putting this out into the public for all to see. Make your own decision. Jews just don't make hitler jokes or WW2 jokes. But they do I had this tweet to me that Melinns mother who is supposedly 1/2 jewish was enough for her to be killed at the death camps. But, The issue remains that there is a huge difference between a Hebrew and a Jewish person even back in ww2. Many Jews hid and changed to get out alive. But if your messianic you really care sometimes about Jewish History like the holocaust.
I think some homeschoolers do segregate the children from society for reasons. I don't see anything wrong with restrictions on tv I did it too. So, IDK. I like freedom of religion choice. what I dislike is abusing your choice and making it a hinderance on others.
Deleteok well I am going to eat in the meanwhile I want to know what makes me a Cyberstalking, Cyberterroist. BTW I will take your donations and I am not a 501c3. LOL
DeleteLOL
DeleteAlpaca's here.
DeleteI can't reign in anyone's dissent.
I don't post as much as once before for many reasons, the main being that I've been busy at home with my family.
I do stop in often & I happened to be reading the last several days' posts & comment threads, just now.
I certainly haven't always agreed with Flemming or the way he presents his opinions, that's no secret. I doubt he agrees with my opinions or the presentation of those, either. I do agree with him on Maria Melinn, based on what I have read elsewhere, not from him. I will give SF credit, his writing & sentence structure has improved markedly.
I did at one time giggle snort daily, here at Ginger's Clubhouse.
More recently? Not so much. After discovering how pitiful, how mentally ill, emotionally damaged some of the followers of Lawless America really were? Made it not so funny...like kicking a wounded puppy. And, then Windsor's Summer of 2013 Stalking Across America? Nothing funny about that. Sickening.
Real life is hard enough. I try to spend my 'spare' time being uplifted and trying to learn new things. I have kids, I'm caught up on hateful squabbling. I don't want to spend any of that 'spare' time to read among strangers about another stranger via a blog on the internet.
I really like the commenters I got to 'know' & got attached to here. I have learned about a wide variety of issues that I was oblivious to prior the "Clubhouse". I never realized how much DV there really was, I now know the definition of vexatious, I know about stock photos, I know more than I ever wanted to about the Sovereign Society, I discovered Vimeo, I learned about Lynch Syndrome...so spare time at the Clubhouse has been an A+ learning experience:)
& I have this shiny tiara. *BONUS*
*AMONG* sorry~ don't wanna read strangers argue with strangers about another stranger. What happened to discussion?
DeleteWhy does shit havta go from 0 to hatefilled venom in one comment thread?
Damn.
Maybe, there's stuff we don't know about? maybe? maybe the way words are typed by one & then read by another (from different regions/speech patterns/slang) could be misconstrued?
I have several things to say. First NBTDT, you have some severe anger issues. We all go on rumors, on our opinions, and on what we see and hear. I have heard that you NBTDT are abused/battered by your former spouse. I have also heard rumors that your grown child (daughter I believe) is in law enforcement. It has been alleged that you have no patience for women who cry the victim because you picked yourself up alone. Okay. Good for you.
DeleteNow Sean Phleming. Your words play into shared parenting closer to father's rights. Reading their words, one tends to pick up on key words, attitudes, different things conveyed. So when those of us who have been in this for years read your words, watch your YouTube videos, it is very apparent.
You, NBTDT, and a few anonymous posters are busy "going after mother's rights groups" and being pretty judgmental and nasty about it. I myself, at various times, have been a target of your rage. Well I am here to set the record straight, at least about me. I have sent info to various posters on here and I can verify 100% of my story.
I was 12 years old when my father died. He was a mean and nasty drunk. He beat me, my siblings, my mother. He killed a neighbors dog. He forced me at 11 to drive him home from a bar when he was too drunk to drive. My mom got up the courage after that incident to finally leave him. One of the only times she truly acted like a mother. We left on a 27 hour cross country trip with catnaps for her to her parents. She left him a note telling him she went to her sister (who I just found out had no clue).
He eventually followed us, but great news! He stopped drinking, beating us, and the last year or so of his life we had a normal childhood until he died when I was 12 1/2. My mother met and eventually married my stepdad. Now I have no idea how her childhood ws but she just continued the cycle of abuse and substance abuse. My new stepdad was a drunk also. But he was special. He liked older teen girls (15/16 to 19). So the last three years of my childhood were spent chasing off my stepdad. Fun times.
So I followed the typical path most sexually and physically abused girls follow. First baby at 18, second one at 19, third one at 20, fourth one at 22. I had no living skills, a tenth grade education. No job prospects. I saw how my mother, father, and stepfather dealt with things, and continued what I started when I was 15. I picked up a bottle of tequila and this being the eighties, Valium flowed like water. I felt nothing. But yeah you guessed it. Even married, I could not be a loving and attentive mother to four children. Having custody of my sister due to tepdaddy dearest doing the same things to her made things very difficult. Hubby hated having sis in law living with us. So we fought. Was that dv? Nope. We fought. (continued)
PETUNIA!!!! <3 I agree, life keeps you busy. Hope your days are filled with joy and laughter dear, and fields of clover for you to run through or snack on.
DeleteI miss you hanging out, but I completely understand walking away for a bit(hint hint...come back someday sooner instead of later).
Yeah, some of the fun of just discussing stuff is slipping away some days. Just know you are luffed and I miss your giggle snorts and hoofs up fun.
@ Jen: You need to quit listening to rumors. What you have "heard" is incorrect. My life and personal history is none of your business, that is why none of it is posted on the internet or discussed here. As regards to your determination that I have "anger issues": that is a projection, my dear. All of the "protective moms" seem to carry that burden and push it off when nobody buys into their crap. I take issue with bullying, that is not anger - that is standing my ground.
Delete@ Jen, it's not mothers rights groups, it's specific mothers who have lied, or skewed their stories. I do my own research on the backgrounds. It hurts all mothers when some of them lie and abuse the system to get back at an ex or avoid child support. Not all women should be mothers even if they can. Not all fathers are good either.
DeleteI also can't stand the all fathers are evil, and no fathers deserve any rights to their children spiel. It should be about parental rights, and parents, cos there are bad people of both sides of the issue. Children's rights are more important than either parent.
I also don't buy the CPS is trafficking kids and they are up for sale. I have known people who were saved by CPS and others who had tough times. Nothing is perfect. But the system could use help, and I support those who want to make it better instead of destroying it. CPS has and does save children too.
Sorry if you feel anyone is bashing the rights of mothers. I don't see it.
He left, I continued spiralling downhill. It was a very quick spiral though - only took a few short weeks. CPS stepped in (due to placement of sister and very angry mother) and removed all of my children and my sister. Were they justified? I needed help. But they did overstep their bounds. My house was not near as bad as many I have seen where children were not taken. I was not drunk or high when they came to my house. The extent of my crimes were a broken toilet that had been called in. A broken window that had also been turned in. A sinkul of dishes at 7 pm right after dinner, a few bottles that had been found buried in a toybox with spoiled milk (two bottles) and three babies under the age of 3 with toys everywhere. The one big surprise to me was the four bags of garbage that my sister had not taken to the dumpster. When confronted with that I HD no clue. You see, I have no sense of smell, and I had no reason to go in that closet.
DeleteBut I did need help. I was a drunk. Like mother/father like daughter. With the bumps along the way, I tried getting my kids home. It was not an easy beginning, I hated my mom, my stepdad, the world, cps, the cops, pretty much everyone. But I did get back on track. I met a wonderful man while going through recovery. I only needed to get my divorce done. I spent almost two years jumping through their hoops. Every court hearing brought a new demand. I had my fourth child by this time (who was living with me, unsupervised by cps, no court action whatsoever regarding him) and then the worst thing happened. My you get daughter was in the hospital. In a coma. Brain dead. She was only two. It was Christmas day. Some present.
I dug and found out that her foster mother stated to emergency responders that I was a cocaine addict and my daughter was born addicted. But that is a complete and total lie supplied to her by cps workers. I offered many times to do hair follicle test, plus I was tested numerous times and early tests revealed benzodiazapam use (admitted to). No cocaine use. I was nearly two years into working a program. It would not work, and it will not continue to work unless I am honest. I never touched cocaine. I smoked pot once at 15, I drank from 14 to 21, and used valiums for approximately two months.
So my daughter was killed somehow. She was healthy when they took her. She needed her 1 yr old shots which were scheduled (they took her one day before her bday). But here is my baby girl, brain dead in a oma in a hospital. Foster mother was never investigated, I never died suit because I wanted my family back together. (continued)
Jen you really think whatever you're posting about NBTDT is ok even if it's false? Why don't you go back to sitting on your ass not working for years making excuses why and expecting everyone else to pick up the tab in your life.
Delete@ 4:34 - Thank you very much for your comments.
Delete@ Jen: I would appreciate it if you would edit your remarks. You have posted false information about me, please remove it.
@ Lorraine: this is why I post with a screen name. If people will make stuff up about a person they don't know, well, we already know the damage you can do to some one you do know.
Hey Oceans! *waving*
DeleteI agree that no one group is bad. Ever.
Within any group there are 'bad'. For example, what if ALL Baptist were thought of by the actions of Westboro Baptist? That's my view on it.
Just as in 1st Grade when Mrs.Parker made us all miss recess because Ralphie wouldn't sit down & hush..."it just takes one bad apple to ruin it for the entire basket". Ralphie is still a jerk.
**I have a friend I've known my entire life & she now is Messianic Jew. I don't know what changed her mind from being Methodist...but, what she believes & what CONnie spews are VASTLY different. I asked her about Bible coding or coding anything and she thought I had made that phrase up! (she said this "coding" must be a special power that only CONnie possesses)**
Jen, I am sorry about your daughter, it is an unimaginable pain to endure the loss of a child.
DeleteI hope that you continue on the path to sobriety, and can rebuild your life and family. I wish you success.
LOL- I have known a few Ralpies too, and yep connie believes she has super special powers, just ask her.
Deleteshe thinks she is a genius too LOL. I believe you are right about this no one group is perfect thing. There are bad apples in any orchard, I have seen it myself. It doesn't stop me from loving apples, or oranges, or strawberries. ;)
I wouldn't say connie is typical of any religion, and she sure does love her some conspiracy theories. But the bible coding she talks about can be done on any book written, and get results. She just wants it to be special, and about her life.
LOL she is all kinds of mixed up/messed up. All IMO Connie...
Oops that should read filed, not died. I took her off machines because all the doctors felt she would not come out of it. My wonderful lawyer wrote of his intent to file suit. CPS and him worked out a deal to where I did not file and my two remaining children would come home. Then it went from horrible to extreme worse. One month after coming home, my house caught on fire, my oldest son and I almost died, my last daughter and the baby died in the fire. I watched my youngest son, the baby, perish before my eyes unable to do anything to save him.
DeleteFire marshal said my oldest was playing with a lighter. Several private volunteer experts concluded it was electrical. Cps again steps in but they do not remove my last remaining child due to the fire. They take him because of the two year old neglect charges. They place him in a home almost 109 miles from me, when there was a local identical placement. At five he had suicide ideations due to the loss of his siblings. My fiance could not deal with the loss of the baby, and returned to drug use. I on the other hand went through severe depression and using the tools learned in the rooms, I took the best option available to me. I sought help. While trying to get help, CPS secretly filed to termibate my rights. I signed myself AMA out of the facility so I could try to stop the TPR hearing. It did not work. Less than six months after the fire that took the lives of my children, CPS took my last child from me forever.
Now most people would turn to the bottle again. I did not. I expect no kudos for that. At first it was for my son, then it was for my other children, then finally it was for me. All of my friends today think it is awesome. I go anywhere, do anything, except drink.
I knew I needed to work on me. I tried school, but I needed to have a place to live, I needed to support myself. So I did. For almost 7 years. Friends kept trying to get me to date and I did off and on. Met an abusive guy, left him. Met another man and if he were single we would be together now. I don't know where he is, don't know if he is married now, I know nothing of him now. We dated for several years. He moved up north and I was single for another year or two when I met my second husband through a mutual acquaintance. I trusted her, I did not want to get involved with a commitment phobia ridden man, nor did I want to meet another abuser.
This one did not appear to be either. I was told he was in the middle nearing the end of a divorce. Well hindsight is 20/20 as they say. We moved in together, got married and with a few bumps (that I took partial blame for because of my stubborn streak) of fighting etc. I got pregnant and I was happy, he was angry. I ruined his master plan. I had my beautiful daughter and things steadily regressed.
DeleteWe come to 9 years ago and the first time he got so angry at me and severely assaulted me. I tried changing, doing what he wanted. Nothing was ever god enough for him. He had managed to isolate me well enough from the life I had before meeting him and changing me as a person (I see this now) that I was paralyzed. He threatened that he would get custody of our child because I was a bad mom (from 13 years before). Never mind I had no criminal charges since losing my children, one CS investigation where my name was mentioned (was a family member) was dropped because they determined that neither i nor this family member had harmed her children (it was her ex being vindictive - gee a dad being nasty).
But i stayed with him due to this fear for almost a year. I realized when he held a gun to my head that he would eventually kill me. Or I would hurt him in self defense. I knew my best action was to leave. So I contacted law enforcement when he assaulted me the last time, and they suggested a restraining order. I got it and then he filed for divorce. He kept his promise and filed for custody based on my loss of my children, the TPR of my rights to my son, and my actions when i sought professional help after the deaths of my three children.
Now. I could write another few pages on what has transpired with him. He has assaulted me, threatened me, harassed and stalked me, filed false abuse reports, lied about a man I was dating two years after our divorce was final. I am unable to contemplate even having a relationship. I know when my ex finds out he will destroy that man. Our child has been subjected to poking, prodding, psych exams, counseling (which was good), watching dad terrorize me, at three he told her I murdered my children and i would do the same to her. Sadly the only charge police stuck on him was violating the RO, which was dropped due to a plea agreement where he agreed to keep his nose clean.
Like I said I can fill this big with what he has done to me. Lets talk about our child. Besides telling her I wanted to kill her, thus destroying her trust of me, the parent who stayed home with her until I left her father. It took years of work to undo a one minute statement by him. The county where we lived refused to do anything. I moved to guide, to make it harder for him to get at me. He would say I was keeping our child from him, thus undermining my efforts at protecting me. Anyone who helped me became a target of his rage. Caseworkers who believed me were reported to supervisors. Same with cops. Then he went on a downward spiral.
DeleteHe lost his job and fell behind on his house payment and lost his house. He built a shack with tarps and metal in the middle of the woods with a verified bear presence. CPS finally stepped in.
Anyway long story short with him. He now has two more DV arrests under his belt. Should have a custodial interference or even kidnapping because he too her on a visit and refused to return her and kept her locked on his fenced property until I could get her returned home. Before this she was an A/b student. During and after this she slid down to C's and D's. This year she is back to straight A's again. And do you think that might be because she hasn't seen him alone since march?
I have moved again and now have a system that is much more progressive and they believed me, unlike where he lives. Those cops are dirty, there is a lot of info available about them online and in fact they are being sued right now for wrongful death and they are the subject of several other lawsuits. I have reports which show they blatantly lied (one item, they say I gave them no custody documents, but they had just served my ex with a temp RO and i also gave them a copy of my custody decree and calendar).
The fact that our child was missing school and it severely affected her (a/B's to c/D's) was of no consequence. His county to this day refuses to prosecute him for this. They even refused to take a report about it for over a month.
Now you can say all you want, but I have the names, cards recordings of these cops, video of these cops, police reports, court orders, closed CPS reports, eye witness testimony, pictures emails, and more. I have proof. I have it all. So as far as I am concerned, NBTDT and Sean Phleming you can shove it.
DeleteLook in my eyes and tell me I an not a victim. I was ignored by family court trying to chase my stepdad away. I was abused by my mother and father. I was beaten by a boyfriend. I was rapedby a stranger trying to get away from a pedophile stefather. I had four children in four years (technically four years and one week) at a very young age, I tried helping my abused sibling, I buried three children in three months time, and then six months later lost my last one. Then 13 years after that, after a lot of work, a lot of tears and a lot of growth, I realize I screwed up again by picking a monster for a partner. I have a beautiful child that I might not ever see again, I could be killed (he promised me there would be no divorce), and i am torn between wanting to give this child a stable family or going back to the single mom thing yet again. And on top of that I have undergone at least 40 CPS investigations (many while there is already an open case).
So both of you and any hater anons can kiss my ass as far as the daddy/mommy thing goes. I went to bill two days after I left the emergency pickup order for my child. Funny thing. The judge was MD t my ex, gave her back to me but that very weekend, she had to go back to him. So, KISS MY ASS YOU TWO STUPID BUSYBODY FREAKS!!!!
YOU HAVE NO CLUE. I am angry, I have every right to be angry. Somebody (or several some bodies) have screwed up in my case. I worked hard to put my past behind me. I made mistakes. I made bad choices. But my 12 yr old daughter is the most important thing in my life. She works hard too. She takes an online class as well as a full school class load, so she won't be hopeless like me.
Don't tell me I hate men. I have helped an equal number of men and women. I teach my daughter compassion. A neighbor just stopped me to tell me how sweet and caring and gentle she is to all the kids in the neighborhood. Well, I will stand up and take full credit for that because her dad is a pos. I get no support, no alimony. He took the house, the good cars, and left me with all the credit card debt. But I will get through it. And as far as all you ampp haters out there, bite me, kiss my ass, screw yourselves. You know NOTHING of me, NOTHING of my story, NOTHING of my life. Go pound sand and peddle your shit to someone who cares.
These moms have shown me more compassion, more love than anyone ever has. When my daughter was taken, I was so low, but I fought it. Those moms were there.
And now guess what? My daughter speaks to her dad maybe twice a week, she has not seen him except at one court hearing since march when she saw him being handcuffed and hauled away. She is calm again, she listens to me, she is not as angry as she was once (unless you count her anger at her dad for his lies to her) and she is back to straight A's again.
SO GO POUND SAND IDIOTS!
And for the love of God, just because someone posts here that they are a parent, it should not be assumed that they belong to any group and they should not have people bully them and be prejudiced against them for having traits of that group. That Sarah chic picked out people to pick on that had nothing to do with any group that she knew nothing about at all.
DeleteNo one & nothing is ever hopeless. Especially people.
DeleteYour victimization does not give you the right to victimize me by posting 'rumor and inuendo'. Stating that you were posting unverified information does not justify the behavior either. People took exception to you because you posted something you knew, by definition, was probably false for no other reason than to hurt or minimize me.
DeleteAs regards to the rest of your post: would now be a good time to discuss the projection of severe anger issues?
Jen's "rage" appears to be a very controlled, yet passionate statement regarding her background. If that scares you anon 6:07, you need to get some help.
DeleteI am curious, if NBTD posts with a screen name to protect her self from stuff others make up, why does it matter if Jen posted something bad about her? I mean if it is not her real name. People have said and assumed stuff about me, and probably many others, and they never retracted. Why the attack on Jen?
DeleteOh I loved this part " All of the "protective moms" seem to carry that burden and push it off when nobody buys into their crap. I take issue with bullying, that is not anger - that is standing my ground" quote by NBTD. So...as she has asked Jen to retract a statement she blankets all the protective mothers with one?
What is with all the high school diagnosing on this page anyway? It seems that all problems on this page lead to some diagnosis of someone that does not exist. Do we have a ton of practicing psychologists on this page?
Protective mother is a term associated with Janice Levinson from what I understand. It seems there is a difference between protective mothers and battered mothers. I roll my eyes when I see stuff spewed by the protective mothers alliance for sure.
I was alerted to come and see what all the hubub was. I am confused that Connie Bedwell is back on the grill. It was my understanding back when Allie turned her good side on and all forgave her, and then Kraus killed herself and naturally she was forgiven...and then the lessons that came from that was there was good in everyone and I thought there would be no more "roasting" of anyone. It was nice when we didn't all like each other but respected each other enough to stay on the page. That was the magic that made this page productive.
If there is good in everyone, then why bash anyone?
I haven't read flemmings posts in a long time. We have a mutual distaste for each other. Today is not a good day to start.
Nice to see you Petunia!
*~*Rhedd*~*
"and then the lessons that came from that was there was good in everyone"
DeleteI must have missed that lesson. I would think the Bill Windsor chronicle would have proven 100% that there isn't good in everyone.
STFU Sharon.
DeleteWhat were you here to discuss Jen, I get your story, I understand you have been through hell. But what is it that brought you here today?
Delete" I am tired of c and l constantly being attacked." so who is C?
@ Rhedd - Who classified what Jen said as bad? I said it was incorrect. My issue was with posting "rumors" and an entire post directed at me based on the incorrect information. My posting under a screen name is not an excuse for Jen's bad behavior.
DeleteWith regard to head shrinking, I believe you will find the start of it in Jen's post, with her "expert" opinion being rooted on "rumor and inuendo" with absolutely no basis in fact. I'm not angry about anything. I just find it more and more difficult to tolerate the bullying tactics I see from this group of women. All of you seem to be very angry and taking it out on the world. And then here you are, you were "alerted to come". For what reason? If y'all think me refusing to be bullied is a show of anger, I'd say you need to spend some more money on counseling.
C is Claudine Dombrowski.
DeleteIf Jen is scared of Bill why is she going off like this?
Thanks Anon,
DeleteAs far as I know, Claudine can take care of herself. She is tough and can kick ass. IMO. I don't even understand why Jen thinks she needs to protect her from some attack, from someone here?
I have no idea why she is going off on this long diatribe. I am not even sure what she came here for initially. I can see she got really wound up, and part of that may be in reliving pain and anger of her story as she wrote it all out. I am not even sure what prompted her to do that. I really don't get the level of anger directed at people here. I must be missing the point...or there was none.
What are we supposed to do about any of it? SMH
ROFLMAO "he's balding...spiritually"
ReplyDeletehttp://youtu.be/mwAYUUJ28UU
AnonymousSeptember 2, 2013 at 1:57 PM
ReplyDeleteYou're on a roll? I've just started. You chastise others for posting anonymously when this is the exact reason you do it, out of fear. Why not tell us your real names? Hiding behind your fake character names is cowardly. You have no idea who I am and who you think I am is wrong. With that I bid you all adieu and farewell to thee. You are all nothing but gossiping little people who hide behind a blog with truly nothing better to do today or any day for that matter.
Honey, WE ALL KNOW EXACTLY WHO YOU ARE. Would you like me to put it in print?
Oops. I missed where somebody else guess who it "sounds like." Ha. Yeah, sounds about right.
DeleteAnd " Trust me I won't be back, the direction in which you should all fuck is off. Now back to your gossiping rag you call a blog. Make sure you google Sean Fleming and Sarah Crocker together, that's some good stuff right there, lying prick."
Honey, you have threatened to leave so many times and come back with a million different names. It's truly laughable.
None of the regulars here are afraid of anyone. We have done nothing wrong. Unlike you however, we are smart. We don't put personal info out on the web that is unnecessary. Why cause a headache when there a little people out there like you whom have no maturity or moral compass and are filed with bile and hatred for the world. So sorry you were a victim, but you haven't matured and grown. You've turned into the monster you despise.
Jen if you're going to spill what you think you know about nbtdt why not tell us who told you that?
ReplyDeletethat won't happen LOL- it's always some mystery person and a rumor.
DeleteI know who told Jen
DeleteThis trying to 'out' people is a last resort when you are losing, and I just don't get it.
DeleteIt's getting ridiculous with all the guesses and rumors and posts about who people are. Posting junk and lame stories about people here and there, and being wrong and then not caring sucks. Out right fabrication and malicious intent are evil, and when you start doing evil things, guess what you become?
Making it sound like you know some super secret info about someone here is lame...what does it matter? Why do it?
We all stand behind what we say, we own our opinions and from what I see we are willing to discuss them and even change them. Why this recent obsession with outing people just to harass them. If I wanted that, I'd create a blog and online presence about my personal life like some other fools.
Next thing will be the old- you are all the same person silliness.
These wackos continue to make our points, right here in broad day light. Jen does not know me from Adam. There is NOTHING about me on the internet. Other than a few insignificant facts that I've shared, there is nothing about my history. But that doesn't stop Jen from posting rumors that she "heard" on a blog that consistently asks for facts. Never mind that all of my posts about other people have links to support the FACTS.
DeleteCome on Jen. Put your money where yours and somebody else's big mouths are, support what you wrote. Where did you get your information?
I doubt she will answer, they all run away. I just don't understand the need to delve into personal lives. I don't think she can edit her own posts and take it out though, she didn't sign in. If she were honorable, she would at least post a retraction, or ask to have it fixed for her. OR cough up where she heard these lies/rumors
DeletePeople that put their life out there and invite discussion need to be prepared when they get it. They won't like parts of it. Tough luck, too bad, get over it.
We are all about research, and facts and backup info. People who actually read here know this, they fly bys are just unable to get that I guess.
I'm sure you are right. Jen was all so long winded about her long sob story and shrinking my head, but hold her feet to the fire and she out of here like she was shot out of a rocket. She can fix it - copy, delete, paste then edit before clicking the publish button. I've done it several times to correct errors in FACT. But, as we've seen time and time again there is a general failure within this group to accept responsibility for their actions and behavior.
DeleteFor the record: I have a child that is a police officer, I have shared that openly. As well as, I have many friends in LE. The rest of what Jen posted regarding my personal life was as made up as the Windsor spy stuff and the e-mail note to Marty.
Check your fb messages nbtdt
DeleteI would have had a few questions for Jen about her story too. I really do hope she can straighten her life out and stay sober.
DeleteI like that you have your perspective, and I appreciate you and your opinions. These attacks kind of make me grumpy, which gives me wrinkles, so yeah- they need to leave or present a discussion of facts. :)
I have been sober for 23 years now. I got very intensive counseling for the loss of my three children. I will not post a retraction, I will not post anything. You want to expose me as your next connie wannabe go right ahead. You will be barking up the wrong tree. You see I am right about my ex, I have all the evidence on him, and he is making more bad choices every day. I posted my name, my REAL first name and i can name at least four regular joeys who know me and as of an hour ago were on my Facebook friends list. Do I give two shits about any of you? Some yes. Those of you who listened and showed compassion. Those of you like nbtdt and phlemface who think they are gods gifts? Well you can kiss my lily white ass.
DeleteYep its out there. My ugly side. Don't really care. I am fucking pissed and i have every right to be. The women you claim that hate so much have been my rocks for the last decade.
You have no frwaking clue. You go bury your children. You go watch one of them burn right before your eyes. Lets see how you handle that shitheads. Like I said, I might use ugly words from time to time, but those ugly words express an emotion. All words express emotions. Anger is not a bad emotion. I had my say. I used my ugly words. I am done.
Now I am going back to my happy life going to watch my daughter have fun. Maybe we will even cook some cheeseburgers together. You will all fade from my memory. You see I used one of the tools I learned, the written word. Nbtdt get mad. If what is rumored is indeed true then admitting it is most of the battle. If it is not true then you really should get to the bottom of your rage. I know where mine comes from. And i work on it every day. I am so lucky to have a support system around me. And they are all over the world, from Australia to Canada to Kansas to Wisconsin and many places in between.
No retraction, only a goodbye. You will see my IP coming to look but only because I intend to be prepared as fast as billy boy goes. Those of you from here on my friends list, I would like to stay friends, I like you, but if you choose to leave, then your choice.
Have fun everyone being holier than thou. I am far from perfect. I will never be perfect. Only one man walked this earth was perfect. He's been gone for several thousand years now.
Hasta la vista.
You don't have a right to be permanently angry and take all your rage out on people here. We didn't do these things to you Jen. You can be a victim or a survivor but you cannot be both. Letting your past life history rule how you feel on a daily basis will leave you in permanent victim mode. These things are not happening today save for the issues with your daughter's father. Easier said than done I realize that but no one here deserves your wrath Jen including nbtdt.
DeletePlease for the love of God, stop forcing your daughter to watch her father get hauled off in cuffs and forcing her to write book reports on children who've suffered like her. She's a little girl who should be protected from all of this chaos not shoved in the midst of it.
@ Jen: The only anger I have is that you have posted something about me that isn't true to serve your own agenda, you won't admit it and you won't retract the incorrect information. I told you what you posted was wrong, it's my life, I should know. Unless you have EVIDENCE to contrary, then you are proven to be a bully and a liar if you don't do something to rectify the post.
DeleteOtherwise, I think you have the market cornered on anger.
I am LOVING this Jen! She just did to nbwhatever, the same exact thing you ALL spend your time here doing to others! Heck no she shouldn't retract anything. Nbwhatever go find whatever dog is on duty and have it erased if you are going to have an aneurysm over it, lmao. Personally, I found it quite interesting!
DeleteThis woman Jen, passionately stood up for herself. How is that an "anger" issue? How does that make her a mental case? It doesn't, but these accusations are the only way you all know to discredit her. It's a diversionary tactic that is overused here daily.
Oceans, your rose colored perception of the history of this group is way off. You are either blind to the true nature of the people here or you simply have not been following along.
Well if I had the time and i really really wanted to, I could go back and pull up all the veiled hate you, nbtdt and phlemface have shown to Claudine, Lorraine and ampp in general. But you know what? I know what I know. I know who and what c and l are and what they are not. And i know for almost a decade now those two have shown me more compassion than you have in your pinky.
DeleteStill not telling you what I have and what I know. Who knows, maybe I will turn it over to bloggers. That will be exciting now won't it? But I am better than that. I am better than you, and better than phlemfart. I only feel really sorry for you. Both of you. It is OK for you all to sit here and armchair psych me, but fr me to return the favor? Whatever.
Like I said, I am angry. I express it, then I move on. Diagnose and second guess me all you want, I know who and what I am. I am told daily what a good job I am doing with my daughter. I am also told how strong I am. Guess that is the problem. I usually avoid confrontations, but when me or someone I love is hurt, I am a very strong willed woman. And that scares you.
Oh, you got a new broom. No we don't make false accusations. Big difference. Jen made stuff up. Or, somebody did it for her and she was just stupid enough to repeat something she knows nothing about. And I don't think you read enough of the posts, she didn't stand up for herself, she had a melt down.
DeleteJen, I thought you said you were leaving? Why make yourself in to a liar?
Delete@ Jen: you don't have my name or a flipping thing to prove anything you said because none of it is true. Your bluff will not work.
Delete@ Snoozan: bugger off, post where I have ever repeated any false information about somebody or STFU.
Thank you Ollie
DeleteJen, no one said you were the next Connie, she is in a class of her own in my book. And I do know her complete history. You came here and told your story, no one brought it here but you. So what was the point? What did you want to talk about? Or was this just some random confrontation?
DeleteI am happy for you being sober for 23 years, your story gave me the mistaken impression these things you were talking about were much more recent. I sincerely wish you continued success. I am even glad you have found support and friends who helped you through.
We all have stories, and only a few know mine. There is much more compassion here than you know. There is also resentment for those who come here and spread lies. What you said about NBTDT was wrong, and you admit it was only rumor. Yet you can't understand why that would bother NBTDT or us?
As far as AMPP goes, they came here because of Bill, it was mistakenly thought we were here as some sort of group on one side or the other of their cause. Not really what I see this blog as, and mostly they figured it out and left.
What bothers me is people who get angry if they are not agreed with. It bothers me when people spout rumor as truth. It bothers me when people lie, and don't like it when they are called on it.
No one here agrees 100%, but we manage to discuss it and present points of view. And to the Anon that thinks I am clueless or don't comprehend, LMAO. I have been here long enough to know what's up with those I care about, and ignore those I don't. Everyone has a right to an opinion, and I allow yours. Think what you want about me.
It's obvious to me who is here to fight, and who wants to talk about things. It's a blog, and we are here to talk. If you can't handle it, hit the big ole red X or google your way on out into the vastness of cyberspace to find a place that makes you happy.
Sounds like Sharon anon is jealous that she is still irrelevant here. Another day, another time...it will come...
Deletethis was to NBTDT and not jenny
DeleteI like that you have your perspective, and I appreciate you and your opinions. These attacks kind of make me grumpy, which gives me wrinkles, so yeah- they need to leave or present a discussion of facts. :)
@ Jen... your story gave me the mistaken impression these things you were talking about were much more recent.
DeleteThat was before I read all the additional chapters. Now I am just baffled as to why you came here initially. WOW.
Anon at 634, I never forced my daughter to watch her dad get hauled off in handcuffs. I had zero control over that. She was on a visit with him at his house. Forcing her to write book reports? Um OK. She looks up to and admires both Jennifer Collins and Damon. We (her and i) went to DC for bmcc. Me so I could learn from professionals how best to help her. Her because, well that was my time, and when she found out jc was going to be there, nothing would keep her away. The professionals here? They ALL thought and still think it was an excellent idea.
DeleteLike I said in my multi comment speech, I have nothing to hide. She visited her father for Easter Sunday. He assaulted his live in girlfriend, they fought for hours. The live in girlfriend called the police and apparently was convincing enough tat they arrested him. This happened Easter Sunday at approximately 4 am. My daughter did not return home until nearly 7pm that night and even though DV with a child in the home requires immediate contact of cps when it is reported, cps was not called until nearly 8pm that night. And even though I have primary custody, I was not notified of any of this until more than TWELVE hours later. My daughter was given to the neighbor. The police did not attempt to notify me, nor did they ask her for my phone number.
Before you discuss something ANON, first state who the hell you are, then ask. Maybe then you would get an answer. But noooooo, you just have to ASS U ME things. Not okay for me to o it, but tis OK for you? Bullshit!
No oceans, this has been my life with the short period of time between the death of my older children and birth of my youngest daughter. Pure hell. But you know what? I wouldn't trade it for the world. Because it made me, me. It gave me this beautiful child sleeping here tonight. I might get scared, I might get mad, hell sometimes I might get really angry, but I am me. Take me or leave me. Lorraine, Claudine and ampp has done just that. They see around and through everything. I don't let many people in. You all posted articles on narcs? A sign of a nrc is someone who inists they are different? Well I am different. Not many drug addict, alcoholic, losing a child to cps, burying three children, all the other things that go with me being me. And my daughter is different. She I'll forever be the baby sister to three dead children. Now what I do with that nd what she does with it are all that counts. In a few weeks we will be hanging doorknob flyers for our local DV center. I am also (if she wants) looking into volunteering for a local food/clothing charity. She wants to go to college. She starts early with volunteering, gets known to different agencies and she will do well for scholarships. I sure as hell can't afford to pay for her college and if you honestly think a man who beats women will pay? Hha ha haha... you are funny.
Deletewhat article on narcs? where? not here that I've ever seen...I am more confused.
DeleteI think you are handling things in your life, and bouncing back. I am glad you are instilling community spirit and volunteerism in you child. I did that too, and it does help some with college entrance essays and application. The more clubs and groups she joins the better. There are so many scholarships and grants out there. Start looking when she gets to high school, it takes time to research and the process has many deadlines starting as early as junior year.
My daughter did well in college, and most of it was paid for with grants and scholarships. The rest was loans.
She too made it past what we went through and is a successful and wonderful woman. Accepting that our path and past make us who we are is important.
Good luck to you.
Marty Prehn,
ReplyDeleteI think you're onto something here, but I'm sure you've already figured it out by your IP traffic analysis. Did you ever notice that OReader's IP makes no less than 19 hops, originating from somewhere near the former Soviet Union? Or that GingerSnap is an anagram for Gang Sniper? I'd say that is proof-positive as to who took the shot at BW in Montana two weeks ago.
Saint Clair Shores, Michigan is a virtual hotbed of activity of everything from mind control experiments to wholesale extermination of everyone with a social security number ending in 13 (which is 666 ÷ 51, as in Area 51). Coincidence? I think not.
Speaking of GingerSnap, has anyone ever seen Ginger and Gaddafi in the same room or photo? Never happens because I'm sure they're one and the same, but I'll bet you're onto that one, too.
Stay strong, Special Agent Prehn. Follow the white rabbit through Raccoon City if you want to take down the Soylent Corporation. Maintain radio silence and God speed.
Heh. If I read you correctly, and I know I must be as I'm "special" too; I must be the second shooter at Dealey plaza?
Deletehmmmm noooo surely ginger is not really Gaddafi...but anything is possible in Conspiracy Land, dumb dumb dumb....so let me get this straight... dumb dumb dumb....So Ginger and Gaddafi are the same character, all this time I thought Ginger was really a talking cookie, (like the gingerbread man spy)well I guess Ginger is human after all, oh No.....we need Special Agent googley Moogly to come and help us solve this mystery, I think that is Marty's true name..."Mr. Imastupidfuck"..
Delete"I must be the second shooter at Dealey plaza?"
DeleteThis sounds like a confession.
Busted! Ginger fell right into our trap, Marty!
Quick Marty, get Reagan on the phone and tell him to reconvene the Warren commission
Delete"I love it when a plan comes together"
Delete- Col. John "Hannibal" Smith, A Team
Silly Ginger, Marty can't do that tonight. Reagan is busy playing Yahtzee with Elvis.
DeleteIt was on a "need to know" basis...
DeleteHope it doesn't spoil your fantasies Marty, but JLove Hewitt lied when she said she was a size 2. Size 6 is more like it.
DeleteAnon 8:26 - You're making a fool of yourself again. If you read Marty's FB, he's the father of JLH's child. He should know what size she is for crying out loud.
DeleteThen again, I wonder why he begged her to post a Happy Birthday message and she ignored him? She must be after the $30 million that he's suing for over busting his dope-selling kid.
Don't pay her a nickel in support, Marty. Remember BW's advice!
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ReplyDeleteI can't find it but one anon hit the nail on the head. Nbtdt says 'Jen with her sob story'... well when i read that, it pisses me off. It is NOT a sob story. Do you all really think I want your pity. I had enough'pity' the first year after my children were killed/died to last me a lifetime. You know what I want? I want people to LEARN! Learn it is OK to be angry. Okay enough to be so angry you curse and scream and yell. Don't throw things (well pillows are OK, I have thrown a few pillows on beds or against walls or on floors). Okay to be sad. Okay to love and okay to hate. All feelings are OK, it is what you do with them, how you learn from them. So anon whoever posted the comment about different dialects, different tones - whatever it was you said, what I read made sense. Nbtdt just has rubbed me wrong from day one. I have FELT that she hates ampp, Claudine and Lorraine. For ME, I feel like every time she posts about them the naty oozes from her posts. And say I am wrong? Say I misunderstood? Nope.... That has been my FEELING from her (nbtdt) from the very first post I ever read. And NOBODY'S feelings are WRONG.
ReplyDeleteNow it's time for another "Marty Moment"...
ReplyDeleteMarty Prehn
Man I was actually kind of cute back then. Nancy loved my dimple and planted one on me at that very spot. I even got to tell RWR my dad's DUCK story and he laughed a good one with me over that. He was misquoted after he got shot. It was reported that he told Nancy, 'Sorry Honey I forgot to Duck" but what he really said was, "Sorry Marty I forgot about that DUCK". lol It was my father's trademark joke. Care to hear it?
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YAY! I love the Marty comedy moments! Keep bringing them Spamanon.
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