The showdown in Missoula was supposed to get Bill's mojo back. He was going to go down there and get Sean Boushie arrested, get a restraining order, or at least fired and declare victory of his chief "hater". In true vigilante style he orchestrated his own sting operation. Turns out, playing police officer is a quick way for his adversary to get a restraining order against him.
So Windsor had to flea Montana with his tail tucked between his legs. Reality is his biggest adversary and it is really bearing down on him now, he can't seem to escape the fact that his entire life is one big lie and a failure. Bill is out of ideas, and is possibly running out of his never ending supply of cash. Yes those perpetual trips with $150 a night Courtyard at Marriott bills are catching up to him. I'm guessing the T-shirt sales are down, not to mention he probably never even sent out the ones that were purchased. His lawsuit against Allie is going sideways, his stalking against Sean backfired, and all his "haters" have not been silenced.....in fact they have multiplied exponentially. His remaining few followers are not only nobodies, they have nothing of value to offer bill. They have no money, no skills and no connections, in short they are all worthless to Bill.
So Bill is left with nothing, and he has to resort to made up accolades like going on a diet or taking great pictures out of his car. Yes he has failed, but sadly this is nothing new for him. He has done this his entire life, he will go in to hiding, ignoring all the problems and obligations his most recent stalking tour accrued, and eventually emerge again with a slightly different vision of his same old scam. This is the life of a gypsy con man.
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ReplyDeleteThis lemming post made me a little sick.
DeleteAnyone out there that can donate money to Bill so he can film we all need to do that remember he doesnt get paid for doing this and its so easy for everyone to say come here I need help u said u would help so on and so on everyone gets the point but its so hard for everyone to pitch in and donate so he can continue filming and putting his life on the line for all of us its not easy to do what he is doing remember he is our voice and is doing a fantastic job thank u Bill for all of ur hard work and dedication plz let my husband and I know where to send r donation to help get u up and running again may god bless u Bill and he will bless u big be safe also if there is anything else we can do to help plz let us know again my # xxxxxxxxxx
Sounds like Sean needs to educate them a little.
Had to delete and repost do I could remove the phone #
Are you crazy? There is NO MOVIE, He has done nothing to help anyone..I can't believe you have not "gotten" it yet.
Delete24/7, according to Bill, the world revolves around him. He gave up his wife, his son, his daughter and husband and two granddaughters, whom he adored, and if you read the recent blog about Bill Windsor, the perfect narcissist....He is incapable of caring about anyone, it's all about him. Bill has plenty of money...He will continue on this dog and pony show till he drops dead, which hopefully is sooner than later. He has been this way all his life. Just let him be, unless you want to donate to his pie fund....
Did anybody see the sunset photo Bill posted? Are we sure he is still hiding out in the northwest? Just wondering if he's not back in Ellis County TX... I went to my favorite place for home made pies for lunch today, they were all out of pie!!
DeleteI dunno, Bob. You might should have post the phone number so we could give these peeps a wake up call.
NBTDT- You now have me worried!!! I know where you go for pie & they NEVER run out.
Deletelmao well there ya go nbtdt, there is no need for further evidence! Bob says they never run out.
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ReplyDeleteCherie Safapou Bill u told me u will send me information about not pay child support if he doesn't allow me to c him! Do what u promises for once pls I am waiting!
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Do what u promises for once pls I am waiting!
Cherie is toast. Bill's never kept a promise in his 64 and 3/4 years of life.
Attorney check pacer and the original fjg. Billy has filed what i call a master piece
ReplyDeleteLemme guess, he VOIDED, CEASE & DESISTED or ABATED something??
ReplyDeleteOK - really bored. Found a petition that Bill wrote for GRIP Feb 2012. Maybe I don't get the whole petition thing but seems to me the purpose should be public support for a solution to a problem. This one just makes a statement that seems obvious - we all want an honest government and judiciary.
ReplyDeleteObvious statement aside, there are several things for the gee whiz file. Bill had more followers than I thought at the beginning, there are 2604 signatures. People are still signing it, as recently as today. There are a lot of names that aren't surprising to see, Daddy Dauben and Kimberly Harrington signed. Barbara Windsor signed it, that was surprising.
But these people who are fighting so hard against corrupt government and judiciary, well - a lot of the names that are very familiar to us signed the petition multiple times. Including Judge Snooty, Zahra Ali Y'sra El and Glen Gibellina. Irene Holmes signed 6 times, Sharon Anderson 5 times.
Petition:
I Support Honesty in Government and the fundamental rights that our forefathers provided for us under the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Dishonesty by candidates, elected officials, and government employees is unacceptable.
Judicial Corruption is unacceptable.
Government Corruption is unacceptable.
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/i-support-honesty-in-government-and-the-rights-we-were.html
these petitions are a waste of time. As you said NBTDT, there are no stated actions, or a plan, just a statement that they want it better.
DeleteI guess I just don't see the point.
There was no point to anyone but Bill.
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ReplyDeleteFor your viewing pleasure https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_58763AViKxQTdXelJfS2doNlk/edit?usp=sharing
DeleteGreat response Allie. You're paying an attorney to handle this and it's in your best interest to follow his advice. When my lawyer says be quiet guess what??? I shut my mouth. Keep up the good work.
Delete#s58 thru #s80 seem, uh, what's the word(s)? Uh, umm...REPETITIVE? or FRIVOLOUS? or VEXATIOUS? all of those!
DeleteThat's THE pro se Windsor for sure.
Sean, I know you mean well, but your post doesn't consider the hardships this brings on the people involved.
Deletebut its publically avalable info that Bill filed or Sean's own opinion where is the hardship?
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DeleteSome of the things you say are hurtful. Please be sensitive.
DeleteSean, Windsor has filed many times against many entities and all of them get to the root of the matter. Dude is crazy, and believes he is always right. And says so in his pleadings. You should read up on his past filings.
DeleteHaving to deal with Windsor can be expensive, even if you win at the end. Collecting from him is no cake walk either, even if he eventually pays. Ask yourself if you could afford $10,000 up front to sue him, or fight him. I know I couldn't.
IMO he will get the same result he always does. Especially after reading his latest diatribe. Bill Windsor is a loser, always has been, and always will be, but I'll give him this, he is good at it. LMAO
so Sean sharing a link to Bill's filing is somehow giving away your strategy? why does it matter if he shares what he thinks he would do in your shoes or what he thinks you are doing? do you really think Bill cares?
DeleteSean doesn't know her strategy.
DeleteThen why come in here to post if not to pout and put the focus back on you?
DeleteSean didn't do anything wrong and contrary to your opinion, you made yourself a limited public figure.
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DeleteAllie does not run this show, you have every right to comment on it Sean.
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DeleteIt is interesting While I bet that none of these activists this weekend will post nothing about how they had a great labor day on their facebook page. Instead they will sit at home ordering pizza at home looking for the next person to start drama with because they have lost some family division case, or something else. Maybe they stayed with some dumbass douchebag who beat them up more than once but stayed there because they could not leave for who knows what reasons. telling others who ask why that they don't understand the situation, well neither do we while we come to get you out of the hospital for getting beat up. Or those people who believe the government is some globalist and is stuck watching infowars and want their country back. They are all glued to the computer typing up crap this weekend because instead of going out to a family picnic they cant because all the family is doing to them is go away not more junk about your personal stuff that bombards my FB feed more than someone sending Karma messages. How about a campaign to take back your life and have fun not drama? Seriously. If it wasn't for boushie's 1000 mails to Bill he would be at home without a weirdo following him. If it were not for you being tied up thinking this guy was going to really do what reverse your case or put you in some michael moore film of types or get you to a senate hearing that never took place seriously I am not sure what you thought would occur. But common you have got involved with the drama club. that is what happens.
DeleteYou have every right to post here and have an opinion. Everyone does, well almost everyone.
DeleteJust out of curiosity, how would someone go about removing a site? Especially one with someone's name like Cox and Windsor and others use? Are we talking law suits or is there an easier way?
There is an easier way but it will take everyone who is serious to send a letter to a certain place if we have a thing I can call in and explain it and all. But, I am making sure it will work. He's not technically cybersquatting but, he is abusing the domains. That can be fought against and would really hurt not just him but also Ryan and the entire empire of domain selling they do for a living. If you can get ICANN or for instance if you get a federal banning him from buying domains that would be best.
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DeleteOmg dude! Really? Was the comment about her daughter really necessary or are you just a major dick? You may have the right to post whatever you want, but why would you want to post that? Just to hurt her? And you weren't satisfied with mentioning it once, you had to do it twice! Obviously you don't have children.
DeleteYou wouldn't believe that Sean is a father who lost his child by the tone of his comments would you?
DeleteNo I wouldn't. But it would explain why he is so callous.
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DeleteFleming made good points in every thing he said at 12:44. Funny, the Anon's calling Sean callous for speaking his mind thoughtfully and without name calling when none of you take issue with the way Allie has talked to others that she doesn't like or that have an opinion she doesn't like.
DeleteAs regards to having an opinion about someone's personal life, if you don't want to hear the opinion maybe you shouldn't share the details with the entire world. And how is it OK for you to point a finger at Fleming but y'all make assumptions and accusations about Fleming in a matter YOU have no clue about and he hasn't discussed publicly?
So kicking Sean is ok but precious little perfect Allie is off limits? Pfffffffft
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DeleteWith this well written prologue to the Bill Windsor/Sean Boushie story, my morbid interest in Bill Windsor has come to a close.
ReplyDeleteThe writer is correct, he will eventually emerge with another lunatic quest ending in failure.
Fare thee well Joey.
JSwiney
Bill Windsor
ReplyDeleteBILL WINDSOR OF LAWLESS AMERICA IS ALIVE AND WELL SOMEWHERE IN A MOUNTAINOUS REGION OF THE UNITED STATES -- AUGUST 30, 2013 AT MIDNIGHT.
Having made two complete 50-state trips before, I've seen almost every significant sight in America and lots of seemingly insignificant ones. Well, today I went to see a unique sight that I had never seen. If I had a Bucket List, this would have been on it.
I have also now done something that I hadn't done since I was a sophomore in college.
I am safe and sound...for all you guys who worry about me.
I will reach my planned destination tomorrow, and on Monday, I will start churning out financing efforts. I don't want to accept donations from those who can't afford it. I want to find a mega-wealthy person or foundation to finance a staff and the remaining work on the movie and TV series.
Texas Tech won its first football game, so I am a happy camper.
William M. Windsor
o o o o o o o o o *raises hand*
I know Iwhat Bill did that he hasn't since a sophomore.
HE WORE PANTS!
Couldn't have been very good if he had to keep it a secret.
DeleteSean, this holiday was brought to you by people who marched in the streets in support of worker's rights.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJamea576YY
We have a constitutional right to partake in rallies and protests. I would hope that you would not judge the activity based on Bill and his type, who exploit the practice for their own selfish needs. Many things that you take for granted came to you because people rose up together and spoke in one voice.
And the truth is that compared to other countries, Americans do not take enough vacation time away from work. For some people, sitting at home with a pizza is well earned and exactly the type of rest their body needs.
DeleteAs for me, I'm waiting on a phone call and the weather to see where and when our class will be. And if the class doesn't happen, we have a barbeque.
Bill will continue to stalk the country alone and lying to the public about having a life. And how about you? Happy Labor Day to you all, whether you choose excitement or rest.
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DeleteSean, it is you who have decided that all the activists are sitting at home sucking up welfare benefits---not I. I never mentioned those kinds of people. Yes, you are right many of Bill's supporters, ESPECIALLY THE ONES LEFT, are those kinds of people. I don't like them either. No, I never compared those kinds of people to the Union member who loses his job. You are so busy shouting that you are unwilling to listen to the many voices here. Not everyone who was taken in by Bill was a homeless welfare addict. Some of us work very hard and object to the social welfare programs that allow these people to become dependent on Welfare checks. However your position is to decide that anyone who pickets must be one of those people while trampling the history that you now claim to know.
DeleteI want to say that I do not feel sorry for Allie at all being caught up in Bills BS. After all she did jump on the corruption band wagon and want her story to get press and testimony. When you get involved publicly with this crap things happen. Sometimes not so good.
ReplyDeleteThere are others who have never been a part of some movement that followed bill who are just people who dislike Billls ways who dislike his ideas and more who are able to comment like I do when I hear on the news all that junk. People say to me, Hey you can't compare talking about BIll or whomever online to talking about Sean Hannity or Glenn Beck on a separate blog because they are superstars and they are not but they post all the drama they have of their life online and invite all to read it and go woooo ohhhhh yeaaaaaa. Im behind you without question or anything. So, its the same to me.
DeleteSo on tuesday I am going to get a FOIA from the police and get the facts of when it was that Allie filed a police report about her child. According to an email there should be 2. If there is only one then she waited 3 months afterwards which I swear that is how I heard the story from her lips unedited from bill in an interview. If there are two they should be 3 months apart approximately.
DeleteI have the following thought, What was the reason for making a video with bill in the first place Allie? What did you expect? How was it going to help you in court if people were watching you so close anyhow? You might as well as wrote an op-ed article in the news paper.
Now you sound like one of Bill's lemmings.
DeleteAugust 31st. The day Sean phlemming is formally recognized as a stalker, just like his friend Billy.
DeleteShut up 1:28 Sean posting on this blog does not make him a stalker.
DeleteHe thinks the courts are corrupt. How many times did he tell us just to accept the court decision and move on with our lives? At last it is revealed he is a father's rights extremist. Everyone wondered why he was here. Now we know. He got called out so now he wants to take revenge against a defenseless child in a case that has nothing to do with him. Rather than become an activist who can raise social awareness he is attacking other due to hatred for what happened to him.
DeleteHow many times did he refuse to answer the question about whether or not he was a father? If he won his case then how is he so convinced the courts are corrupt? How many times did he demand evidence of corrupt courts, judges and gal's and claim there was no evidence? Now in a fit of rage for being called out over the loss of his child it is revealed that he is deeply angry. Why do angry if he won his case? He has been hiding and lying all this time. Criticizing others for standing in the open where he didn't have the guts to go.
DeleteHe's a little mixed up sometimes. His opinions don't all mesh with eachother in the real world. Some of his views are way too simplistic. Who cares? So what?
Delete"at last it is revealed . . " pfft. Extremist, my right butt cheek. Oh, and the left. Bite 'em.
So, what you are saying is that you think he is biased based on his own gender and his own past experiences? Tell me honestly that you aren't. Tell me honestly that Allie isn't. Tell me that anybody here isn't. We can only truly see the world from our own eyes. We can try to be open minded, but ultimately it's just trying. We are stuck with who we are.
Where is he taking revenge against a defenseless child? Has he even mentioned the child's name or discussed details? Who put the details and child's name out there to begin with? Her mommy.
I didn't see him attacking at all until somebody got her panties in a knot last night and came back to the blog to tell everybody why she is blog martyr. Oh, but did that happen? I guess I'm unsure now because all of that is gone, and she can't stand behind her own words.
So what's really behind this latest attempt to bully and silence Sean F?
No. I am not biased by gender. What they do to one gender they do to another. These gender wars are why there is no unified effort and why there is no progress. Believe what you want.
DeleteThanks Anon 3:11
DeleteI don't get why some here are getting this Only I am Right attitude. We have always been about discussion done in an adult manner, with facts to back them up.
We all have opinions that are shaped by our own experiences and history. It is possible to share these without getting snarky. Even if you don't agree with each other. LOL, there are always other places you can go if you just want to be agreed with.
At times it does seem like blog highjacking is occurring but that is only temporary. Why can't people just roll with it? And grow the heck up...not everything is about you, and others are allowed to question things you have posted. It's the Internet, get over it. If you can't take it, hit the big red X, or google your way down the halls of the Internet to somewhere happy.
Okay, I'm over it... LOL , you may now return to whatever it was you were doing.
Just curious Anon 3:17 "These gender wars are why there is no unified effort and why there is no progress."
DeleteUnified effort at what and progress to achieve what?
Unified effort at what and progress to achieve what?
DeleteAsk Sean. He just said the courts were corrupt.
I'm not talking about just the courts. I'm talking about the bigger picture. I didn't just say by gender. I said past experiences.
DeleteThere are decisions made in the court favoring one parent or another strictly based on stereotypes or even scientific fact. Statistics may tell as story. They may tell us what to expect, but they don't tell us each individual case. So the idea that there are mothers groups or fathers groups out there trying to unify to fight their own particular hurdles, doesn't mean that people in the groups are biased.
A woman in the workforce may face stereotypes and glass ceilings and need tools to fight those. A white male from a affluent background may face different stereotypes and assumptions. We all need tools to face whatever preconceived notion other people have based on their previous experience.
You can only see the world through your eyes. That, my dear, is fact.
Yes, but when it pits mothers and fathers against each other and they are all saying the court is corrupt but hating on each other instead of doing actual activist work, then lunacy happens. Sean has been loud mouthed in telling everyone else that they were wrong to speak out. Now he admits that he thinks the same way. What has he done if anything to fix the problem? That is the damage that Bill and others like him have caused, if the courts are corrupt but no one listens because they see a bunch of hooligans beating each other up. So what does Sean think needs to be done to fix the problem because attacking posters here and demanding Allie's records will not fix the bigger picture that you are talking about.
DeleteUh, anon 3:08, I don't see Sean hiding and lying. I knew he had a daughter months ago. He has shown her photo and even a video with her riding a train on the Sean Fleming show.
DeleteMaybe, just maybe, he doesn't think the details of his private life need to be aired in public? Maybe, just maybe he realizes that putting that out there leave him open to people pontificating out their asses about what happened.
I maintain, it's his right to discuss publicly what has been made public. So sorry for you that he didn't give you all the ammo you want to turn the tables.
Sean has been pretty clear on what he thinks of certain types of mom and certain people from the beginning. This isn't new. I don't know why you are acting like he has hidden anything.
DeleteAnd regarding talking about something and not doing anything to fix it, welcome to America. Or better yet, welcome to human nature. Try fixing that. Where to start.
Again, why the crazed attack on Sean? All I see is the same guy that's come and commented here for months.
Months ago? He has been her longer than that. Let him speak. Let him answer the questions that so many have asked him when he attacked them. Don't pretend that he has not been part of the many arguments here. Let him answer for himelf and see if he can do that without attacking others and tearing down the whole country.
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DeleteIIRC Sean has said he believes laws need to be changed or written by working within the current system. That these online stories, and videos do not contribute to that. I personally think they are exploitative, and would say they rarely make any change to the status quo, and they do not alter the results in custody cases.
He appears to have had bad experiences, but still believes in working within the system to get what he needed in his own case.
He seems to question the veracity of Allie's story, or her methods. Many besides Sean have questioned some of the details, like waiting 3 months to contact police? If that is the case, I can understand why it becomes difficult to accept if someone has been in that situation, or anything even close to that situation.
He didn't dig up this story, it was presented online. The details were shared by Allie. This is the perfect example of how sharing these types of stories backfires. And that doesn't even begin to cover my main gripe with these stories. Someday these children and their friends will google their names and come up with this crap. Right or wrong, true or not, this is the legacy for these children.
Anon 3:44 Yeah, months. A year ago was last September. The blog had already discussed Windsor being full of it, but I didn't see any of you guys here back then. Aside from a little bit of Connie talk, mothers vs fathers rights and court corruption wasn't even the main topic. Google says Sean showed up in February. That's not even a different calendar year.
DeleteSooooo months it is.
Funny question, what did you think about Bill Windsor last September?
I asked him tough questions. That was not an attack. Sorry if it seemed that way. He wants to grill other people then he is fair game. How many times has this blog been accused of attacking him when he grilled others? Lots. These tough questions will follow him into court if he chooses to face Windsor in court and will be published online by Windsor. Let's not forget what is really happening here. Sean has been repeatedly insensitive to many people and the source of many disagreements here, and this blog has been accused of attacking him while defending the people he grilled. Let's keep that fact straight. He wants to grill others then he should be prepared to face the same questions without backing down. Really think he could face Windsor in court? Then why did he back down?
DeleteNo, I don't think he will face Windsor in court. He has lots of opinions. Many I haven't agreed with. He isn't a lawyer, and as such, his opinions are not legal advice, only his personal opinion and not fact.
DeleteYes, he has been rather abrupt, and at times insensitive in the way he comments. But this is not just true about him. We all have moments were we say things that are either pissy, or maybe misconstrued. It's a blog, that happens.
People can feel like they are under attack. That is a perception, and may not always be true. Other times, tempers flare and things get said.
Asking questions is what goes on here, so does expressing opinions. No one has to agree all the time.
And no way should anyone try to grill or attack anyone. And no one is forced to answer questions- it's always their choice. We can interpret that however we wish.
Why would anybody initiate court contact with Bill unless absolutely necessary. That's just stupid.
DeleteAgreed, now kindly tell that to Sean. Thanks.
DeleteHe's mostly been speaking about what he would do if he were in Allie's shoes. It's still his right.
DeleteHe's been talking about suing Bill. If he does that then Bill will do to him what Bill is doing to Allie and what Sean is now threatening to do to Allie. So glad we got that straight.
DeleteI may regret asking this, but what is Sean threatening to do to Allie?
DeleteMaybe I missed the threats?
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DeleteHere is my take on Bills being able to file Allie... So your attorney gets him remanded back to being able to file int he first place. This would supposedly get a precedence set forth for him not to file again you'd think. But then how was he able to file against you in the first place? Think about it. The previous paperwork and order did nothing to stop him from filing at all. the basis of your defense is that he wants to take away someones 1st amendment right to have an opinion about an issue that is political in nature verse defamation of a political figure who ran for office and suing as a political non profit who is on a project to gain supporters to the cause. So... My opinion here is that if you don't want to have bill be successful in future litigation and set a bar the only case law used is one where someone makes a decision not getting it tossed out. See if you take away his right to file then you never get a decision that says you can have a right to make a police report and or make post on a blog about any issue. I am sure people are watching this if indeed they understood the ramifications of this case in its entirety.
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ReplyDelete3 hours ago
BILL WINDSOR OF LAWLESS AMERICA IS ON THE MOVE AT 8:00 AM ON AUGUST 31, 2013.
If you know where this bridge is, you know where I was yesterday afternoon.
I am more than ready to get the Jeep unloaded, spread out everything I really need to work with, and get totally focused on fundraising. The goal is to find a mega-wealthy person, or a mega-wealthy group of people (celebrities perhaps), or a foundation that will finance setting up an office, hiring staff, and completing the film and TV show.
William M. Windsor
Bill Windsor i think it would be fun to travel with several hundred women and a couple of guys.
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No, you shut up. He has no right to records of a minor, he has no right to harass anyone because they don't agree with him.
ReplyDeleteIf it's public info in a police report, just like PACER, he can have whatever he wants. Freedom of info. He's not discussing the details or the minor's names. He's discussing Allie's actions. I may not agree personally, but he is allowed to have his opinion.
DeleteSean Fleming isn't harassing anybody. If he is, let's see the proof. Is he calling Allie? Is he emailing or messaging her after she has told him to stop? Is he driving by her house? Is he setting up websites in her name? Calling her office? Anything? Beuller? Beuller?
I think Sean has a right to talk about anything that is public info. I didn't see anybody saying oh no, don't talk about Bill's Niagara Falls lawsuit? We've been discussing what Bill talks about on his facebook and websites. Sean Fleming has said what he would do. He's not a lawyer. He doesn't know all the details. But, just like discussing the Jodi Arias case, or Trayvon Martin, or OJ Simpson, or Casey Anthony . . it's what people do. It's an opinion. Everybody has one. Get over yourselves.
This blog used to be a fun,light hearted place where everyone got along. Us original clubhouse members were here because of our dislike for a now convicted child rapist. The blog stumbled across Bill because of his support of the rapist. It seems to me,the ex Bill followers have brought their agenda here and will attack anyone with an opinion that doesn't match theirs. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and attacking someone for theirs,in my opinion,has no place here.
DeleteGeeze I get tired of all the anons...it's really not difficult to pick a name...so Anon 2:28
DeleteHow is Sean harassing anyone? Because he is questioning a story someone put out there about their life? Because he is looking for facts to back things up?
While I might not agree with going after police reports about people, it is public info. If you post your life story, people online may someday be vetting the info you post. It's sort of what we do here...express opinions, and vet info in the stories people post.
And please don't be telling people here to shut up. It's rude, and it's wrong, and it's not your blog. If you really feel someone is crossing the line, contact Ginger. Or find another place that doesn't upset you so.
All of the above is IMO.
2:28 Pacer is available to the public. Harassing Sean into silence is because Allie doesn't want Bill to know some on this blog can't tolerate her. Everyone else, Boushie included who keeps coming here to poke Fleming are only making things worse.
DeleteUmmmm I was told to shut up first, so go attack that annon. Apparently its opinion is radically more important. Classic ocean attack.
DeleteOcean is one of the nicest people on here.
DeleteYou have no idea what an attack from me is like. I don't attack, I stick to my own opinions, and discuss.
DeleteI am pointing out adult behavior, and you are having a tough time grasping it. If you don't like what someone is saying, skip it or hit the red X.
Don't tell people to shut up, tell them what is wrong with their opinion, and stick to facts, and not personal attacks. It's rude and childish to respond with shut up. Especially when it's not your blog. LOL, just pointing out the obvious here. Glad you appreciate it.
LOL and an Ocean Attack is a TSUNAMI - you don't want to know what that is like
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awww thanks Anon 5:23 :)
DeleteYes, I read and write here. And if you look back, you will see I have a consistent opinion on the treatment of others. I am not holding anyone to a higher standard, and I believe my comment was to an ANON. Where am I trying to 'hold Sean to a much higher standard'?
DeleteThese comments telling others to Shut up or STFU are pointless and tedious, and yes, rude. IMO. Seriously, do adults talk like that, does telling someone to shut up ever work?
It's a blog, and people are here to exchange information and opinions. If you don't agree, fine, explain your side, and don't attack a person doing it. No one here has to agree, but we can discuss things like grown ups, and/or agree to disagree.
In lieu of that, like I said, skip over a comment, or hit the big red X. No one needs to be here to the point of anger or abuse. It's just a blog, and the internet is a big place.
Bob you are exactly correct in what your saying about the ex-bill followers. they came here because we were against bill. Bill was awesome until he ditched them for disagreeing with him. So they think that we like them and will agree with their stories. But yet if they go back to this blogs archive prior to March we can see that people really talked about them too because those same people flocked here thinking we would join forces. Well we have the same people with the same attitudes as bill just over here who dislike anyone disagreeing with them and if we do then were Flaming men activists or pedophiles or government agents. For months I used an alias on Facebook and posted things and was told I was everything they called bill. I speak to almost everyone after bill talks to them, meaning that I call just about everyone outside Joeys who BIll contacts and writes about. I don't that he knows. Why I do it. I want them to know the truth. what I get the most from Police are...we know he is a sovereign. I get from people at news agencies that he is a lunatic and he calls and emails them all the time. I have spoken to court clerks and they are just frustrated by him and his filings. Yet not one person really cares enough about him and are just happy he's gone when he leaves. But one person told me that crazy people that have these really angered issues if you don't believe in them they like to turn the table to make you look bad like your the one with the issues. Its a mental issue. Seriously. Like an addiction. Some people think that the government is hacking their e-mail, listening to the phones and sending them subliminal messages. Heck some thought the FBI agents were present at the DC meet up. Maybe so. When you talk about plans to take out politicians people listen and watch closely. the problem is right now 50% of america dislikes what the current administrations is doing. Like should we attack syria or not. Is the TSA over bearing or are they just under trained dimwits abusing power and are not in some conspiracy. Its like watching a movie national Treasure or something like the divinci code.
DeleteIs the big boy incapable of talking about his life without judging others? Is he unable to listen to others without deciding that the courts are only corrupt in his case? Everyone is entitle to their opinions but those who judge others while being dishonest about their own lives will be questioned. For as harsh as he has been to others, these are questions he should be prepared to face. If he can't then maybe it is he and not the people who question him that needs to stay away from internet.
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DeleteNo,get over yourself. And shut up.
DeleteVery well. Let's start at the beginning. How does this blog know the motivations of anyone posting here?
DeleteWhat is this, grade 1? You shut up no you shut up no you shut up. Are we going to get to the yer mama jokes now?
DeleteIf Allie wants all of us to bow down and obey her, she can take her grievances to Ginger and quick getting her buddies to kick Sean.
big boy? really? are you Bill now? did the widdle girl drop her lolly on the ground?
Deletewho said they knew the motivations of anybody on the blog? I specifically asked why the attack on Fleming?
He's been called a stalker, he's been accused of dragging a minor child into this (which he didn't), he's accused of being a liar because he isn't on here raising Heck about whatever his own custody situation is. . . and it's like it's all some new information that you suddenly found on him. No, it's been out there. So, if you don't like his opinions, then it MUST be because he's biased and experienced this vast corruption that you see in the system. Yeah, that's it. Maybe he's just calling it like he sees it from his own perspective.
This little "beat Sean down" thing started when he linked a court filing that Bill posted. Allie came to play martyr. She's saving all our asses! Oh thank you great Allie. Then the little anons take up for her after she can't stand behind her own words on the blog and takes them all down. What are you trying to do? Are you trying to get Sean to take down what he has written? That's what it looks like to me. I'm just trying to figure you out. Do you fight all of Allie's battles for her?
@ Oceans & Anon's sticking up for Fleming: thanks for not letting the bullies go unchallenged.
Delete@ Anon bullies: Fleming is wise not to broadcast the details of his personal life and issues with his children. Quit asking about it and making reference to it, it is none of your business if he elects not to share it. You can take a lesson from him; he has handled his issues with the sophistication and decorum you apparently lack. Because of the attitudes presented by "protective moms" now when I read the words "fathers rights extremist" I hear "man hater" in my head. By keeping his business private, Fleming has proven to be a good father in behaving in the best interest of this children.
@ Bob: Ditto.
So anon, enlighten me. If Bill didn't drag the minor child into it, who did?
DeleteAnon 6:33, could you specify which anon you are asking? It's so confusing.
DeleteBill did, Sean didn't but Allie was kicking Sean for some idiotic reason no one can figure out.
DeleteOkay then...yes Bill put a child in the middle of his vendetta. He is vile and vindictive in addition to vexatious. He wanted to interfere in a custody case as a form of revenge. Typical Windsor evil.
DeleteYou know the word "stalking" and "harassment" and all gets kicked around a lot. I defend those to have opinions. while we type a lot about bill here. then we get upset when someone talks about our own cases that are out there on our own FB pages personal or such. There are going to be people who really disbelieve in the stories. I have told people about other stories I just seem to be like the hatfield and McCoy's. First I say that last november 5 members of Michigan for Parental Rights ran for office and Zero were elected. I would blame part of this because they have publish information that is not true and have elaborate conspiracies similar to Ron Paul who will did not win the presidency. America for the most part is not into all of these corruption issues. Sure we see in the news about politicians like Kwame Kilpatrick the mayor of Detroit. You know who voted him in? People who wanted him in there. Politics is about who you can convince to believe in you and what your for. Its never about what you can get accomplished. Getting Bills in place and laws in place takes more than just you in office. Anyhow. I am done for now. No I am not for Suing Bill either. But, I am for stopping him from raising funding for getting a tv series that nobody will watch that supports his real idea of violently taking out candidates.
DeleteActually Anon @ 7:01 Bill did not put the custody case on the radar Ally did. She asked lawless to support her and they all did. They were suppose to go and bill said he was going to go to court to support her until the had a fall out then bill said he would support her husband instead. Lets get that fact straight. It's all on talkshoe.
DeleteDon't forget he said he wanted to get involved in the custody case, not just support her husband. He said he would do whatever he could to make her lose custody because she was an unfit mother.
DeleteYes Allie told her story, and involved Bill. But once they broke up, he made it his stated agenda to stop her from having custody because of what she did to him.
This whole drag people into court custody cases for moral support is wrong. If they aren't family or related, they shouldn't be there. And the telling of stories online sucks. Anyone here knows how wrong I think that all is.
Connie Bedwell is a prime example of how an online presence leaves a legacy of horror for a child.
oceans your rights and he also did the same extreme when he supported her before. I agree that it does suck. People think that court cases like termination and all aspects of custody should be provided to the world. But its personal in nature and hurtful and people get angry and there are sides and really there are no winners. Just like in marriage where you love someone and try to work it out. Divorce is a place where no matter how much your mad your going to have to work it out when children are involved. Unfortunately people have big ego, we are selfish, and the court makes it worse with the stupid titles of custodial and not custodial. There are things that seem unfair like child support. But there are no real checks after you get your divorced finalized. People bring motions against each other not courts. The court has no enforcement arm other than child support and contempt of court issues asked by the other spouse. People in general can determine wether the divorce and the time there after is rough and brutal themselves. Its a two way street. People need to handle their case alone and I suggest yes getting an attorney. They are familiar with the operations at court. They play court politics and do business there and know the rules of the court and talk so you don't have to make a fool of yourself.
DeleteHere is what I say. Allie does not want anyone to know about this all and have a bias wether not this has to do with her custody well its really all water under the bridge. You did what you did. You joined forces with bill and filmed for some reason. You were getting support for your case. if it was a mistake then so be it. Stick up for what you did and why you did if people ask. You cant deny it all occurred.
DeleteBut you said you are going to get her records to see how long it took her to report. I don't understand what it matters?
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DeleteSorry, but if the cops are giving out the number to CPS in response questions or a report, that causes me to be curious - what were the questions or report details? Cops live to bust crime. Most that I know are joyful at the prospect of putting a bad guy in handcuffs, regardless of the offense. It's hard to reconcile criminal investigation vs referral to CPS.
DeleteWho said anything about ignoring? Are you crazy? When I say I would handle it, I mean I would IMMEDIATELY do everything humanly possible to identify and treat the existing harm and I would make damned sure there was no further harm...EVER.
ReplyDeleteFunny because I am sometimes an anon poster here and I stick by my case and I do are with some here. There are over the top mothers (Julia aka Marlene) and there are many over the top father's rights people as well. In recent news and on Facebook pages about parents/mothers/fathers rights when i dig, I see more of the father's rights guys not being completely honest about their histories than the mothers are about theirs. Does this mean all moms are good and all dads are bad? No it does not. But should DV against a mother be ignored because dad did not hit or PHYSICALLY harm the children? No because that is getting a child up to follow in the abuser or victim's footsteps. My mother was abused, I was abused. I want my daughter to not get involved with an abusive man. So recently I made the decision that due to whatever reason (broken man picker, childhood issues whatever) I am not very good at picking a non abusive man for a partner. So I quit picking and will stay single. I have plenty of male friends (most happily married or staying single like me) who I can use as examples for my daughter. Then I will give her positive life lessons and will not place her or I in harms way. I had more to say but that sometimers disease (sometimes I remember, sometimes I forget) is kicking in so I will leave it at this. There are good and bad in everything. Some things just have more bad. The angry father's rights movement has more bad than the mother's rights movement. And sadly the bad moms are usually caught up in more shared parenting and fr groups than they are in mothers groups.
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