Apparently, District Judge Fernado Gaitan doesn't mind turning his court room into an all out circus freak show. If Bozo the Clown isn't booked yet, he could call the court in to session, and I hear they are trying to get the Blue Man Group to perform the opening act. Yes, that's right, a judge whom Bill would like to see executed (along with his peers) for treason, is willing to hear just how vexations Bill Windsor really is. Bill filed a lawsuit, after being given permission, against Allie, Mark, and John Does 1-1000.
Bill rattles off 220 statements of facts...of course none of which can be independently verified. Its mostly a redo of the counter claim he tried last month against Allie when she filed for a protective order. Around 92% of it has nothing to do with Allie or Mark, but I guess that's why he adds John Does 1-???. Think of this lawsuit as Bill Windsor vs. A Civil Society, because that's really what we are dealing with here.
Among the mis-statements of fact, we have a cameo of Judge Snooty as Bill offers her up as an "expert witness", I can only assume she got that title by wearing her glasses down to the tip of her nose. Bill says he has never operated a scam, swindled anyone, tricked or cheated anyone out of their possessions, never had a parking ticket (wth?), is not sexually attacked to children, isn't a bigot, paid his taxes, is a grandpa, only been to jail as a visitor, didn't have women sitting on his lap, doesn't get nude with woman especially in a hot tub, didn't have sex with animals, did not solicit or accept any investments to Lawless America, doesn't drink alcohol, only cusses on Wednesdays (I just made that up, but it seems to fit), and is stalked and harassed to no end by these "stalkers".....who also (gulp) put out his personal information such as his home address and date of birth (you know stuff he posts himself). And much much much.....more.
So you can continue to keep quiet and sit in the corner and work on your karate chopping Schied, Bill has better things to do than play with your imaginary friends all day long....no no, forget all that stuff, he is getting back to his bread and butter of being a vexatious litigant, its better than a sugar rush from too much pie.
He's a grandpa, but he said because he has disowned his family because of his undying allegiance to LA, he's not going to see his 2 grand daughters again...So he can take Grandpa off his list
ReplyDeleteThats some funny right there!! As of this morning, all I can see is teh procedural ok for Bitler to file. Its not a real suit as of yet. Allie said she was served, but Im not sure by who as of yet. My bet it was just some moran Bitler hired to give her some papers, aka harassment and paper terrorisim. Bitler most likely thinks this is all needs to do. Most likely hes wrong, a good general assumption.
ReplyDeletehe has actually got a case number for it:
Delete1:11-CV-1923-TWT
ahhh, you know what, you are right, that was the case with the vexatious litigant tag....this current case doesnt have a number as of yet
DeleteThanks to a tip from Ms. Overstreet below, I've found the case on the Missouri court online filing database.
DeleteIt's case number 13LF-CV00461. (13 must be short for 2013; LF is very likely Lafayette County; CV is civil; and 00461 means this is probably the 461st case, or perhaps the 461st civil case, filed in Lafayette County in 2013.)
You can see the database entries for the case by surfing over to https://www.courts.mo.gov/casenet/cases/searchCases.do and entering the case number above.
The Missouri database does not appear currently to carry any of the documents that Windsor has filed in the case. I see, however, that "Bill Windsor Files" has posted links below to scanned PDFs of case documents posted on Google Docs.
Nonetheless, I presume that the Missouri court website will be a useful place at which to get case updates later in the litigation.
I wonder 1) exactly WHO gave Billy permission to file this suit, if it exits, and 2) does this permission satisfy Thrash's order to have any potential suit vetted by a FEDERAL JUDGE before filing? IMHO, getting a district court judge's permission doesn't qualify.
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone know the entire hot tun story. There's a reason, but I don't want to say why at the moment.
ReplyDelete* Hot tub
Deleteas far as we heard it, it was an anonymous poster that talked about it, and they had some details
DeleteOh...I figured you were referencing Windsor's weight (hot ton).
DeleteGiven Archimedes' Principle and Windsor's weight, I wonder how much water was left in the damn tub???
DeleteI find it suspicious that people had pics and knowledge but never said anything about it until a day or two after I posted information about a spa near DC. What I also find interesting is that the woman involved in the rumour still has her videos posted on LA despite telling me some less than flattering things about Bill.
Deleteanother suit against snapped
ReplyDeleteWell isnt that special, what nice timing....
ReplyDeleteI would say, unless you are contacted about dates, or another case number it is only an administrative matter at this point.
Im not sure of the process or if there is one to notify Thrash. Id hope that Sluggo is right adn the State judge does not have full knowledge or authority to even issue the order giving him permission.
Personaly, I refuse to even acknowledge any loony lawsuits. Bitler included.
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ReplyDeleteHmmm.. Id tell you what my wife's response was when we were sued for $100,000,000,000, but it might get you in trouble...
ReplyDeleteHere's part of the order:
ReplyDeleteIf the lawsuit or administrative proceeding names federal judges or court employees, the Plaintiff must also tender a $50,000.00 cash bond or a $50,000.00 corporate surety bond sufficient to satisfy an award of Rule 11 sanctions since such actions are presumably frivolous. Failure to obey this Order, including by attempting to avoid or circumvent the intent of this Order, will be grounds for sanctions including contempt.
SO ORDERED, this 15 day of July, 2011.
Is Windsor suing judges or a court employees? Why would he get a bond?
Can you scan and post the complaint somewhere? Id say get a lawyer and counter sue him, and Barbara, which yes with him would be a nightmare....
ReplyDeleteIsn't the complaint on the LA site? I downloaded it last week.
DeleteSluggo what's the text of the complaint on the LA site? I'm on a cell and can't get his site to load right today.
DeleteBottomline: Billy found a federal judge and got permission to continue his jack-booted legal thuggery.
DeleteOh, so the man with no money came up with 50 grand, just to harass someone else through court, but still hasn't paid his contempt charges to the previous court? And his wife who has control of the money and who paid out 100 grand to satisfy Maid, which benefited him, kept his sorry ass out of trouble... Right, let's just pretend she's clueless some more. (sorry, this stinks to high heaven)
ReplyDeleteNo Sluggo.
ReplyDeleteU.S. Chief District Judge Fernando J. Gaitan Jr. was the judge that allowed him to file.
here is the text from his request to file:
ReplyDeleteIN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE
WESTERN DISTRICT OF MISSOURI
WESTERN DIVISION
IN RE: ADMINISTRATIVE MATTER
RE: WILLIAM WINDSOR Case No. 4:13-MC-09008-FJG
ORDER
On March 20, 2013, William Windsor contacted this Court requesting approval to file a complaint in Lafayette County, Missouri. The complaint is approximately 60 pages
and seeks to sue a former volunteer of Windsor’s company and the former volunteer’s boyfriend for defamation, infliction of emotional distress, and tortious interference with contract or business relations. Windsor sought this Court’s permission pursuant to an order issued by Judge Thomas Thrash in the Northern District of Georgia due to
vexatious litigation on July 15, 2011 which states:
@ Sluggo, one of the 1000's could be the Judge from the PO case. He was mad because he dismissed Bill's B.S. I am sure he will name a Judge or two in this suit. Perhaps he will drag the Maid Judges into it for libeling him or slandering him as a vexatious litigant. Since he has no names for the Doe's, he could really put whoever the hell he wants in there if he wins. Now how's that for Justice.
ReplyDeletePlaintiff William Windsor and any parties acting in concert with him or at his behest are PERMANENTLY ENJOINED from filing any complaint or initiating any proceeding, including any new lawsuit or administrative proceeding, in any court (state or federal) or agency in the United States without first obtaining leave of a federal district court in the district in which the new complaint or proceeding is to be filed. In seeking such leave, the Plaintiff must present any such court with a copy of this Order. If the lawsuit or administrative proceeding names federal judges or court employees, the Plaintiff must also tender a $50,000.00 cash bond or a $50,000.00 corporate surety bond sufficient to satisfy an award of Rule 11 sanctions since such actions are presumably frivolous. Failure to obey this Order, including by attempting to avoid or circumvent the
ReplyDeleteintent of this Order, will be grounds for sanctions including contempt.
Windsor v. Hatten, Case No. 1:11-CV-1923-TWT, slip op. at 2-3 (N.D. Ga. July 15, 2011).
After careful consideration of Windsor’s request and all applicable law, this Court hereby FINDS that Windsor may file his state court action subject to any state court
ReplyDeleterulings to the contrary. Plaintiff should include with his Petition an attachment of the order referenced above.
The Clerk of the Court shall send this order via regular and certified mail to the following: William Windsor P.O. Box 681236 Marietta, GA 30068 and William Windsor 3924 Lower Roswell Road Marietta, GA 30068. IT IS SO ORDERED.
Date: April 12, 2013
S/ FERNANDO J. GAITAN, JR.
Kansas City, Missouri
Fernando J. Gaitan, Jr. Chief United States District Judge
sorry, that's not his request, it's the order/response from the judge regarding Windsor's request. I thought I saw the request. That may have been what I saw on Windsor's page.
ReplyDeleteIsn't 60 pages pretty long for the initial filing? It seems like included large blocks of text in the filing rather than including them as supporting documents in the entirety.
ReplyDeletePer that text he just wants to sue Allie and her bf. Wouldn't the judge need to know it's also John Does 1-1000. I mean, that's a little ridiculous and speaks to him being very frivolous. I mean how exactly are they going to be able to separate out what a bunch of individuals are accountable for? I'm not an attorney, but it doesn't seem like it can legitimately be lumped together like that??
And the No to Sluggo was in regards to is he suing a judge or court employee, but then again, he might be. He's had John Does as court employees before.
ReplyDeleteI don't see anything that shows he paid a bond or was required to for this suit.
LOL, so Judge F may regret dismissing the PO. Now Windsour's potentially going to stalk Jugde F, through F's very courts. Irony.
ReplyDeleteExhibits? Do tell!
ReplyDeleteSo he had one of his minions do the obvious editing. I hope I didn't seem obnoxious last night with my suggestions to you. Just my analytical mind kicking into overdrive and hoping that it helped you with what you already know you can do.
ReplyDeleteDear Judge Gaitan:
ReplyDeleteI am required by court order to obtain the approval of the filing of the enclosed
Verified Complaint by a judge in the United States District Court for the Western
District of Missouri. A copy of the order is attached.
This order is an outrage, issued by a corrupt judge, but I am complying with the
terms of what I consider to be a void order.
Please approve the filing of the complaint so I may file this in Lafayette County
Court. I will also be seeking a restraining order, so your prompt consideration will
be greatly appreciated
Thrash needs to chit chat with Gaitan. Just like Thrash was sued, this Judge will be too. No one is immune from Windsour, and the courts aid the sickness of frivolous people with a vendetta. Had this Judge known the history behind the man, he probably would never have agreed to let him file.
DeleteRight there, he calls Thrash corrupt. Hellooooo, heads up, he just insulted the integrity of another fellow Judge.
just insane...damn he is sickkk
ReplyDeletewait, there are more ridiculous claims? the 60 pages of crap seemed pretty ridiculous
ReplyDeleteAllie, this is my opinion and only that, I in no way am an attorney nor am I even trying to give you advice in general, but the way I see it is that this filing is so ridiculous that you should be able to get it dropped on your own. For the very same reasons you couldn't get a PO against Bill, now the shoe is on the other foot and he is the one now that has to justify his request, and about 90% of the stuff you simply have to respond with "that has nothing to do with me".
ReplyDeleteBut, and I think he may have opened himself up here, if you wanted to go after damages in a counter-suit, I think you would need representation to pull that off. Thats my two cents.
IMHO, you need an attorney and you need to countersue and name both Barb and Ryan as defendants.
Deleteand also, if you do get one and you want to set up a paypal account for legal fees directly related to this case...I will link it here
Deletewell think of it this way, the dumb ass did name john does 1-1000 so that could be virtually everyone...so this isn't just a shot at you its an attract against anyone who stands up against this monster.
Deleteplus he put the money in a bond so if you win, there it is
DeleteDitto what GS and Sluggo said... Barbara and Ryan too. At least Barbara. I see he might have changed the ownership of LA.com recently.
DeleteTake any support you can get Allie. You arent the only target.
and yeah, Bill wants a jury trial...lets have one as well as let them consider your counter-suit with representation. I think a skilled lawyer in front on an impartial jury could have those members spitting mad at Bill that they would want to tag him on general principle alone.
DeleteHA, you should contact the Maid attorneys. They'd probably do pro bono. (and they have all the documentation of his past history, mocking court orders etc.)
DeleteI would love for someone to ask him what kind of Animal, he is said to have had sex with.....
Delete@Tiny, it doesn't matter if he changed it. Up until the change, anything posted there is still hooked to her. So, all the nasty article he wrote about her and all the other 'haters' was done under the little MRS. ownership.
DeleteI'd feel the same way about taking money but Tiny has a point.
DeleteAllie its a shot at me too...do the paypal..and I will put something on it, Im not wealthy but every dollar counts...We all wld like to see him get a bit of what he deserves and see u smile...E
Deleteyeah if he rolls you in court...then next up is Claudine and Loriaine, Loryn, Brannon, Sean....and then everyone
Deletethis was throw out in GA, can someone get that .... and put in a motion to dismiss on those grounds?
DeleteAgreed Ninja, hes just trying to hide his poop.
DeleteI've been a juror on three cases, two civil and one criminal (felony) and was the foreperson on one of the civil and the criminal case (verdicts on all cases). IMHO, this case won't get to a jury, but if it did, Windsor would have his ASSHAT handed to him.
DeleteI am pretty sure he is eluding to all the above mentioned people in this suit. If you read some of the examples, they are all in there, or the majority of them are. He just needed to get this filed, then I am sure he'll sneak the names in later.
DeleteYep, and all you wanted was for Windsour to leave you alone, stop harassing you, remove all his posts about you etc. and the Judge only focused on the Gun. Not bright. There are numerous was someone can stalk someone else, and Windsour just proved it by filing this. And driving by snapping photos of your house, driving by again several days later, etc. Something tells me, the Judge will regret not taking this more seriously. Based on the vexatious title, it should have been a BIG indicator of his harassing personality.
ReplyDeleteHey Allie can you file against him? I think he would have a cow! ask for 25,001.00 and show his lies, how he stole money and make up lies about people for buzz for his fake movie, how this was throw out in GA....then we will all post it online
ReplyDeletescreen shot with no IP address mean nothing
ReplyDeleteRight, I'm sure it's the same information he denied writing to the PO Judge, that he has presented as evidence, in this case. He is also asking for damages for "Lost Profits?" Right.
ReplyDeleteWho knows the names of the pedophile cases he is defending?
Who has the information on the convicted pedo, Woodruff fellow, who was working with LA?
Every single number on that complaint can be disputed and proven a lie. There are 1000 people listed as does, so, lets pull together and get all this proof for this case.
"On March 20, 2013, William Windsor contacted this Court requesting approval to file a complaint in Lafayette County, Missouri. The complaint is approximately 60 pages
ReplyDeleteand seeks to sue a former volunteer of Windsor’s company and the former volunteer’s boyfriend for defamation, infliction of emotional distress, and tortious interference with contract or business relations."
Interesting. He refused to produce documents to Maid relating to LA claiming he had no ownership in LA. Now, it is "his company."
This lawsuit should provide ample opportunity for full discovery on LA, all of his e-mails, Facebook entries, etc.
You need an attorney. Your attorney should send him a notice immediately to preserve all of his records, computer files, etc for purposes of the litigation. Thereafter, along with your answer, send extensive discovery, including a request for access to his computers for forensic examination, request for all of his web pages, Facebook pages and passwords. Could be interesting.
I said it before, and I am serious. Someone should call the Maid attorneys. They know all the stuff, we don't to tie all this together and show his lies.
DeleteI also bet they would like to see that he can cough up the 50,000 to file this, but not the contempt fees to the court.
Tortious interference claims are rich. Opens the door for all kinds of inquiries as to the specific business of LA. What current or prospective business or contract was interfered with? For example, Windsor claimed he turned down a deal from a Hollywood agent for the LA movie, if I recall correctly. Given the tortious interference claim it is perfectly relevant to ask about that deal. Who was it with? What were the terms? Why did you turn it down? Who else did you have meetings with.
DeleteHis website and Facebook pages will be a goldmine for specific questions like these. Good luck
Agreed, they may take it on just for spite.
DeleteAny bets on how he got the cash?? Im guessing he sold the new lot lizzard express and bought a new jeepboyta, then used the rest for this paper terrorisim.
Yep Tiny, that is what I thought, and posted here as well.
DeleteRE: Contacting the MoM attorneys...great idea Ninja!
DeleteI have talk to MOM, thats why they know about Lawless America ..... I told them how he is using there name and conning people out money over the lawsuit
DeletePS they are scare of him, there is pictures of him at the doors with warning
@Anon 1:31pm & 1:37?
DeleteTHANK YOU!
I am in total agreement with your statements & advice to @AllieGate.
& @AllieGate~ Windsor, (in my opinion) has just opened himself up for intense scrutiny in EVERY aspect. This is a great opportunity he's given, not only to you, but many future victims of his.
You have some very staunch supporters, much more than you may realize or that you are 'seeing'.
As stated several times recently, the readership here on Ginger's blog has continually grown. Those that read are a vastly larger group than just those that post comments. We know several LE agencies have been reading regularly for months. We also know that at least some judges have also been reading & following his online activities that have been mentioned & linked. Now, with Windsor's filing against you most recently, he's leading even more scrutiny to his "activities".
The Anon above used GOLDMINE in their comment, where we had been referring to his ish as "nuggets" as we have detailed his absurdity satirically. Windsor's own words & actions could be used against him now, to STOP him, and at his very own "invitation".
Anonymous @1:37 has very good points about roasting Windsor in discovery. An aggressive legal team could make Windsor very sorry that he filed this lawsuit.
DeleteHowever, that process would require at least a few months of work (Windsor's entire history suggests it could take several years) and cost many thousands of dollars. Unless there are attorneys (such as Maid of the Mist's?) who are willing to do the work pro bono or for drastically reduced fees, going to war in the manner Anon 1:37 suggests would be extraordinarily costly in both money and time.
That's why I asked what kind of lawyer could she look for . . and I briefly mentioned "ambulance chasers" . . and I don't mean that as a derogatory term towards all attorneys. But, there is a certain type of personal injury lawyer, the kind that heavily advertises, that is actually right person to fight for you. Some cases they just dial in because they are working for a portion of damages won. So, maybe, if they think Bill would owe court fees and damages in the end and Allie was just interested in justice more than money . . . maybe that could be a win-win deal?
DeleteI'm just talking (writing) outta my butt.
It just seems like Bill does a good job of creating a lot of work for other people just to follow him. He's endlessly writing and accusing. He can't be succinct in the least.(not like me. this is short and sweet and to the point. shut up. I know.)
I think you are very right though, what kind of attorney Allie chooses will determine how involved this really gets.
Deletehttp://www.lawlessamerica.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1217:lawless-americathe-movie-florida-filming-november-12-19-2012-please-come-expose-corruption&catid=133:lawless-america-the-movie&Itemid=105
ReplyDeletehttp://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/flyer.do?personId=41667
ReplyDeletesorry this posted in the wrong place
Deletehttp://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/flyer.do?personId=41667
ReplyDeleteWhat kind of lawyer does somebody look for in a situation like this? I mean, I know that there are times that even an "ambulance chaser" type attorney is right bet. However, this seems like a time when you want somebody that is really on the ball and takes personal offense to Windsor's use of the courts. How does Allie even go about finding affordable representation and know what specialties are right?
ReplyDeletethats a good point and I think just about any human being can clue in on the outrage, but they are going to need to be skilled in internet forensics and defamation law...I would think
DeleteYeah, but think of the volumes of filings against MoM. Figure he'll try to do that again. AND they have to wade through all of his facebook pages and website and this blog and whatever. There is SOOOOO much stuff. Think of all the hours coming into this and not knowing who Bill Windsor is.
DeletePlease can someone tell me Why this cannot happen to Bill Windsor?
ReplyDeleteAuthorities say Williams solicited local businesses and requested monetary donations to sponsor sporting teams. Williams never intended to provide a sponsorship to the businesses and she kept the monetary donations for personal gain say police.
http://www.katc.com/news/carencro-woman-accused-of-theft-by-fraud/#_
I would say that he has avoided it by walking a delicate line between lies and the law. He probably uses all his donations to go to his "expenses" while out shooting his "movie". Or at least that is how he would play it.
DeleteHe very specifically says in his filings that he hasn't accepted "investments" in the movie. But, then we know he's accepted donations for this supposed 501c3, but is that really being tracked? It doesn't seem like it. I would the the law would be very specific about accepting donations or gifts or whatever when you tell people that it's tax deductible?
Deletebut he knew Sundance would never take his movie and no agent but he make up more lies to get more money
DeleteI would like to know if he sold the RV or gave it back? and someone should maybe call the police for the person he con out of the RV
Deletehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charity_fraud
DeleteDoes anybody have a screenshot where he said Lawless America has 501C3 status? I know he specifically said it around Meet me in DC. I think it was shortly after? He didn't say they were teaming up with an existing tax exempt org. I guess he could claim that's what he meant, but he said that LA WAS one.
DeleteHere is an email he sent out right after DC, posted on FB from Mary B
DeleteDC was a big success, but we didn’t even come close to covering the costs. We are at least $5,000 short. If you can donate, please send a check payable to Lawless America Association, PO Box 681236, Marietta, GA 30068, or send by PayPal to williamwindsor@bellsouth.net . Lawless America is a 501 c 3 non-profit, so donations should be tax-deductible.
http://www.facebook.com/notes/mary-bagnaschi/todays-e-mail-response-to-bill-windsor-of-lawless-america/646810712015247
Quick-links to Bill Windsor's lawsuit files against Allie.
ReplyDeleteDoc 1 - https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_jWy9BohdTKYzdxWG9ocEFpbXM/edit?usp=sharing
Doc 2 - https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_jWy9BohdTKNFlNQ2UwOEkwNUU/edit?usp=sharing
You're uncommonly well connected, BWF. :-)
DeleteI wouldn't (heh) swear to it in court, but Doc 1 looks legit to me. At least the Missouri state court will know what it's in for.
Reading Doc 2 next....
Doc 2, the Complaint, is interesting. It demonstrates for the nth time that, for a non-lawyer, Windsor is a pretty mediocre lawyer. His recitation of facts is chock-full of absurd irrelevancies (WTF is the point of lengthy recaps of online conversations with Ms. Overstreet?). Then, the most important portion of the Complaint, the actual Claims (or "causes of action"), are hollow, conclusory nonsense.
DeleteMost of the time, courts will let pro se parties slide on issues like that—but given Windsor's history (which the court in this case should be well aware of by now), one hopes the Missouri state judge won't cut him any slack.
There's also a major question regarding personal jurisdiction—that is, whether the Missouri court has the power to adjudicate a case against any defendant other than Ms. Overstreet. Making that argument would require some research regarding Missouri and federal law on internet defamation and other torts Windsor names, though.
thanks for your insight as always Attorney.
DeleteJust speaking out loud...and not giving any advice whatsoever, but what would be your opinion in terms of has Bill opened him self up to counter suit here. Especially when you throw in the fact that he has directly inserted himself in to the middle of Allie's custody case? And even if a counter suit was successful and he ignored it, what could a court in Missori do to a guy in Georgia?
I have a general legal(ity) question(s) also attorney. At what point does Windsor have to prove harm to his reputation and actual damages? And who is the burden of proof on regarding if it's slander or fact or irrelevant/not said by Allie? Does that change from state to state? IE, . .does Bill have the burden to show that he didn't do things? Or does Allie have to prove it is.
DeleteOK, I'll shut up now. So many questions...
As usual, no one (especially not, for example, Ms. Overstreet, Mr. Supanich, or anyone named "Doe") should take anything I say here as legal advice. Please consult your own counsel. For spectators' edification only:
DeleteAnon 3:15:
Windsor is the plaintiff in this suit, so he will have to prove all elements of his claims (such as damages) at trial. The standard of proof depends upon Missouri law, which I have no direct experience with—but I'm guessing Windsor would have to prove his claims by the preponderance of the evidence.
Of course, it's entirely possible this case will never go to trial. A huge proportion of lawsuits settle or are determined on pre-trial motions such as motions to dismiss and motions for summary judgment. (This irritates Windsor to no end; among his absurd legislative proposals are destroying these kinds of dispositive motions entirely. ...Which would cause American court systems to collapse under the resulting case load.)
does Bill have the burden to show that he didn't do things?
Probably not. Missouri law could be entirely different from the law I'm familiar with (though I doubt it), but generally the cliché is that "truth is an affirmative defense to a defamation action." In other words, if
* Windsor accuses Overstreet of publishing a statement that Windsor committed Crime X;
* Windsor alleges that he didn't commit Crime X; and
* Overstreet's defense against the defamation (libel or slander) claim is that Windsor did too commit Crime X,
then under common law Overstreet would have the burden of proving (usually under a preponderance-of-evidence standard) that Windsor did the crime.
Overstreet and other defendants may well have other, less fact-dependent defenses against Windsor's defamation claims, though.
I repeat: I'm not giving legal advice. Please consult your own attorney rather than acting on anything I say in comments.
DeleteGinger:
Windsor has absolutely indisputably made himself vulnerable to a counterclaim ("counter suit" isn't a proper legal term in any jurisdiction I'm familiar with—though who knows, maybe Missouri law will embarrass me by containing such a thing) from Ms. Overstreet, Mr. Supanich, or anyone else who can persuasively argue that (s)he is one of the "John Does" named in the Complaint.
Especially when you throw in the fact that he has directly inserted himself in to the middle of Allie's custody case?
That's almost certainly not illegal. (Just massively asshole-ish.) Nor does it really have any effect on whether Ms. Overstreet can counterclaim against him. Ms. Overstreet can counterclaim because he's just filed litigation against her. That's all she needs, presuming she can make out a colorable argument that he's committed a tort such as defamation, fraud, harassment, intentional infliction of emotional distress, or whatever.
And even if a counter suit was successful and he ignored it, what could a court in Missori do to a guy in Georgia?
Well, a "counter suit" (this is why the terminology matters) isn't a "suit" at all; it's just one or more additional claims that the defendants in the current lawsuit can file, directed back at the plaintiff (who then gains the added title "counterclaim defendant"), within this very same litigation.
Conceivably Ms. Overstreet or anyone else could file an entirely separate lawsuit against Windsor back in Georgia, but that would be pretty much pointless for anyone who's already a defendant in Missouri.
Under other circumstances, Windsor could ignore a lawsuit filed against him in Missouri by arguing that the Missouri courts don't have what's called "personal jurisdiction" over him. Personal jurisdiction is a thorny issue that law students spend weeks or months learning in civil procedure class—but in this case, it's basically moot as to Windsor, because he filed this lawsuit in Missouri. By availing himself of the Missouri courts, he has clearly given up any argument that Missouri courts have no jurisdiction over him.
So if Ms. Overstreet or other defendants counterclaimed against Windsor in this case, they could (if they win on their counterclaims) get a judgment against Windsor. Then they can take that judgment to Georgia, file it in Georgia courts, and enforce it against him. I can't see those kinds of jurisdictional issues being a problem on the defendants' side in this case.
On Windsor's side, things are different. I have no idea what connections Mark Supanich has with Missouri, but potentially he has a strong argument that that state's courts have no personal jurisdiction over him. The same probably goes for most if not all of the Does. A lot depends on Missouri's law (and federal law) regarding internet defamation, though. I'm sure that has a major effect on the personal-jurisdiction argument, and I'm not sure what the outcome is.
Also lets add on the fact that he is also by his own admission a "news site" so I would think Libel, defame and others he would have less chance of winning...he would prolly try to say he is not, but he has posted everywhere that he is....and I would doubt he can have both that he is and in certain times he is not a public figure
DeleteThank you Attorney
Deleteand yeah he filed this lawsuit....that could be key, thats good to know and I'm sure good for Allie and Mark to know.
And I will strike countersuit from my lexicon
Brannon's referring to the so-called "public figure defamation" standard established by the U.S. Supreme Court in New York Times v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254 (1964). I can't say for certain, but it appears to me that that might indeed present a serious problem for Windsor's defamation claims. It's very difficult for public figures to overcome the "actual malice" requirement created by the NYT case.
DeleteI believe Windsor has asserted that he's not a public figure, but that seems to me highly dubious.
(NYT could present a problem for one or more of the defendants to the current litigation, as well, if they decide to counterclaim against Windsor for his own defamation of them. Arguably one or more of the defendants are public figures, too.)
@attorney http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_M._Windsor
DeleteYeah, I've read that, PMZH. It's obviously written by Bill himself. I don't know how to get the attention of Wikipedia editors, but I would presume that that kind of autohagiography (as someone cogently put it in the Talk page) is not something they prefer to have in their encyclopedia.
Deletehttps://www.facebook.com/?sk=welcome#!/pages/William-M-Windsor/309899009087902
Delete@Attorney and Brannon, yes the "public figure" thing can be big, as it was in fellow LA follower and local malcontent John Margetis decided to file on me and Oreader (and threw in google). Google's attorney's established that he was a public figure which means just about anything outside of a direct and specific threat of bodily harm is fair game. And Windsor, who claims to be starting his own political party, is far more public than John was.
Delete@attorney anyone can fix it, the only bad part is your IP address will show
DeleteI've never edited Wikipedia, but I've read enough testy Talk and History pages to see that the problem isn't just "fixing it" by a temporary edit but making the edit stick. Windsor can simply revert anything an editor changes, unless the Wikipedia higher-ups intervene.
DeleteWhich is why the higher-level editors are important. Windsor is abusing Wikipedia, and one hopes the site's leaders (or even volunteer middle managers, of whom I believe there are thousands) would prefer that that not happen.
"limited public figure" I believe, Ging.
DeleteI saw on Ryan Windsor's LinkedIn page that the Alcatraz Media article was something he took credit for writing.
DeleteDoes anyone know the name of the firm in Atlanta currently representing MoM? Is it Hawkins, Parnell, Thankston & Young?
ReplyDeleteyes, and they do have an office in St. Louis incidentally. They may have had all the pie they can stand....then again they might know how to get all the pie you can eat.
DeleteThanks GS, I'm going to try giving their Atlanta office a call on Monday. I also intend to call in some favors and get the links Ninja just posted in front of Thrash's clerk ASAP. NOTE WELL: THE GLOVES ARE OFF...THIS IS WAR...WE ARE AT DEFCON ONE!
DeleteKBO,
Sluggo
KBO . .. very funny Sluggo
DeleteWhat a LOSER AND POS!
ReplyDeleteExhibit P
So there WAS a suicide attempt and the mother asks him to NOT to post any info about it. But yet here it is. He has opened up a can of worms that his ass cannot cash. Where is the proof that of a message he received from the mother, besides Judge Snooty's "expert" analysis? Just wait fool, I have screenshots and time/dated stamped clear and convincing evidence that is going to make you, your wife and your son pay through your vexatious nose. Not to mention what else I have laid out for you in a legal manner that's gonnna make your butthurt so bad that Preparation H will never solve.
@Allie, I am so sorry that you are going though this. I am thankful, he is not posting about me anymore, but I think Julia Flechter or someone else that know me.... told him none of what he posted is even close to true but he keep it up on the LA.com page. If you get a lawyer,and need my help email me, I do not have any open case, so he can not hurt me outside what he all ready did.....
DeleteHe's not after me right now because he knows that wouldnt be very healthy for him, monetarialy or otherwise.
DeleteHes a big fat Koward that thinks he can bully you right now.
Dont take his crap, dont back down, dont be a victim.
Make him the victim! (Interpret as you see fit)
Going home to make some more killing tool ammo. see ya
Then Allie make home see otherwise. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.
Delete*him, not home. Damn auto correct..
DeleteWhy does Windsor state he has been audited many times? Is that normal? I know honest people get audited occassionally, but often?
ReplyDeletewhat the hell ticked her off?
ReplyDeleteheheheh, I had to, I know
Ya know, as the old saying goes, fight fire with fire, why shouldn't we all become vexatious litigants just like Windsor?
ReplyDeleteAfter all, the courts don't seem to mind much; they may bark, but where's their bite?
Gezzzz thanks Allie.. so glad you are thinking of me...
ReplyDeleteLyme disease Mary is crazy.. Who knows... Ya go ahead, sue a state employee... with neverending free access to attorneys and a whole Law school... go ahead...
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ReplyDeleteROFLOL!!! Its like an unholy trifucta, Windsor, Mary, Cox. Funded by my inlaws.
ReplyDelete^^^ Gary Woodroffe's booking file.
ReplyDeleteHere is his Lawless profile
http://www.lawlessamerica.com/index.php?option=com_sobipro&pid=55&sid=1280:Gary-Woodroffe&Itemid=104
I think someone said he also worked as a state coordinator
Allie put this in your file
All I keep seeing is
ReplyDeleteopen can.....worms.....everywhere. He might want to rethink this whole case.
I think you meant "hear", and yes we would love to hear or read what Mark has to say.
ReplyDeleteSo, I'm guessing Bill has this disclaimer so he can try to do what Crystal Cox tried should he get in a tight spot:
ReplyDelete"I am a professional journalist; most of my career was spent as the Publisher of magazines."
He also says blah blah blah, I'm not a lawyer (damned right) blah blah blah I don't offer legal advise (well I've seen him list all the various forms and arguments he's used and suggests other people use them, I'd construe that as advise, but maybe the courts wouldn't agree do to his handy disclaimer . . . however, those facebook ones are pretty much a joke too)
Then he says
"Despite of my concerns about lawyers in general, I suggest that anyone with legal questions consult an attorney for an answer, particularly after reading anything on this website."
I read this as, Bill Windsor will probably call you names. Make up stuff about you on his webpage, and perhaps you should talk to a lawyer in regards to what he has just written . . . . but that's just my opinion.
oh oh oh! and in the war of the words, plantiff did not have "women" sitting in his lap... Well we've all seen the photos, but it was just one woman.
DeleteDidn't he say "during the filming"? Meaning he wasn't actually operating the camera while the woman was sitting on his lap. Word play indeed. Too bad he doesn't realize that "dduring the filming" can include the entire film shoot, which according to him has not wrapped yet.
DeleteWindsor is The Great Equivocator. Recall in several legal documents where he swore, under penalty of perjury, his claims were factual and truthful, and that he "had written many books." A reasonable person considers a book to be a copyrightable, original work with an ISO ISBN number and widely distributed; on the other hand, Windsor actually wrote training manuals with limited distribution. The list of Windsor's equivocations is endless.
DeleteYes training manuals on what subject? Who ever heard of a genuine author who won't talk about the subject matter of their books? And by the way, this is where his little indiscretions of cutting and pasting from Wikipedia show his inability to write a book of his own of substance or quality, and why publishers will refuse his manuscripts in the future. It looks to me more like he's trying to show off for his SC friends than him actually being a true author. (as SC's travel around giving antigovernment seminars)
DeleteLNM, you remind me of some research I did on one of Billy's legal motions a while back. I think he was trying to prove a judge was corrupt (go figure). Anyway, He using a very long legal citation, so on a lark, I decided to Google it, and in an instant the search engine came back with a reference from Justia.com! He had cut & pasted the whole damn thing!
Deletethat is the story of his life. Other people's work . . .
Deletefor anyone who would like to send Wiki a e-mail or maybe putting the joeyisalittlekid Link Wiki Bill Windsor page ....
ReplyDeleteinfo-enwikimedia.org .
Allie, I know this is traumatizing because I have been in my own trauma, so I say this with understanding of the situation if not the actual perspective from your point of view. I was estatic today for you when I actually had the ability to drop the trauma and the outrage and read the contradictions and worms. I was estatic to know how many people support you and care for you. And to know you will not walk into the court room alone. I don't know how it will play out, but this much I know is true.
ReplyDeleteHere's a line in his complaint:
ReplyDelete'All of the Defendants may be jointly referred to as "Defendants" or "Stalkers."'
A real journalist or attonery wouldn't be able to get away with this statement.
attorney
DeletePublic figure proof. This is where all his public boasting will bite him in his big pie lovin ass.
ReplyDeleteProducer William M Windsor IMBD profile.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm5214513/bio
William M Windsor Chief Magistrate candidate (cache original gone)
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ZyXpISEmr5YJ:www.causes.com/causes/654640-elect-bill-windsor-chief-magistrate-judge-of-cobb-county-georgia+william+m+windsor+chief+magistrate&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
Don't forget he was also a write-in candidate for Georgia’s Sixth Congressional District (wanted Tom Price's seat in the House).
Delete@Allie no, sorry I don't. (If you are talking about the email, Mary B has it and since she is named as a hater, I am sure she'll give you a copy!)
Deleteheres all the companies from his about page: notice he never really just worked at them, but he was the main guy:
ReplyDeleteExperience
Chief Activist
Lawless America
August 2005 - Present (6 years 6 months) Marietta, Georgia
LawlessAmerica.com began as the story of William M. Windsor's personal experience with judicial corruption and government corruption. Due to publicity about his efforts with the United States Supreme Court, thousands of people began telling Bill their stories, and this site morphed into a site dedicated to exposing dishonesty and corruption in government while presenting ways to battle this epidemic.
CEO
The Windsor Companies
April 2001 - Present
Since I "retired" for the second time in 2001, I have dedicated time to raising money for a project at Texas Tech University; founded a donut franchise; traveled to all 50 states by car writing a book and taking photographs; operated a music business; and started several travel businesses. I currently have two major projects. I am attempting to obtain the rights to a tourist attraction that generates 2.5 million customers annually, and I am launching a GPS business.
CEO
1st Communications
July 1996 - March 2001 (4 years 9 months)
From 1996 to 2001, I was CEO of 1st Communications, a company owned by Bain Capital, Triumph Capital Group, and me. 1st Communications made a series of acquisitions to build one of the largest trade show businesses -- the largest in terms of the number of annual events. 1st Communications also developed one of the first online job and resume businesses using a network of over 1,000 web sites. That business was sold to The Washington Post in 2001, and I "retired" to Atlanta, Georgia to be near grandchildren-to-be.
CEO
Professional Trade Shows
1996 - 2001 (5 years)
President
Advanstar Expositions
Privately Held; 501-1000 employees; Publishing industry
July 1992 - July 1996 (4 years 1 month)
From 1992 to 1996, I was President of Advanstar Expositions, a company owned at the time by Goldman Sachs. Advanstar was one of the largest producers of trade shows and conferences in the world.
President
The Windsor Companies
September 1969 - August 1992 (23 years)
I began my career as a junior at Texas Tech University in 1969. I have started over 50 companies in my business career. I became involved in the T-shirt business in 1969, and after eight years as a retailer, wholesaler, and manufacturer, I launched the trade magazine and trade show for the industry in 1977. I started other magazines and shows, sold the company in 1981, and "retired" at 33. I have owned and/or operated many magazines and trade shows, travel businesses, retail stores, manufacturing companies, printing company, typesetting business, advertising agency, marketing companies, convention services businesses, souvenir and gift businesses, tourist attractions, resort businesses, music businesses, computer software company, a consulting company, a food franchise, internet businesses, and more. I have written numerous articles, books, training programs, and manuals. I have spoken at conferences and trade shows across North America and in Europe, Australia, and China.
He spoke at trade shows & conferences in China? Really? Where's the stock photos of that little adventure?
DeleteBasically pushing products in a booth aka sham wow type of guy. Gotta give the man credit for embellishment.
DeleteWell it's really hard to find true records of his work history, since he has flooded the WWW with his own stuff. Almost every link posted, is in some way by him, or picked up by an off shoot non factual article, that just reposts his stuff. I find it interesting that I can't seem to find anyone singing his praises other than him.
DeleteOh no! Someone forgot to mention Windsor is considered in some circles to be the Father of the Sports Tee Shirt or some such.
DeleteI still think all of this could have been avoided if he'd taken up golf as nature intended...it's Day Care for rich old farts!
it's funny he seems to think that he designed screen printed tee shirts. Except, he's actually too young to have done that. And if you put all his various bios around the web together, you get a better picture. Basically, take the lowest common denominator to find the truth.
DeleteSorry, no. Everytime I hear the "father of the tshirt business" I can't help thinking about the fictional Forrest Gump and I know BW is simply embellishing the truth. If he really was all of that, then he would have a place in history inside the fashion industry and people would have heard of him. Oh wait, yes how convenient, no one knows who he is because he sold his company....just like Mac and Dick McDonald sold their franchise and that's why we've never heard of them either.....oh wait, yes we have! (BTW, notice why they named the Big Mac after the older brother.)
Deletelet's get it get it I have decided to assign myself a John Doe number
ReplyDelete-John Doe #123
LOL
DeleteWhy not.
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DeleteOk that's better...
DeleteJohnDoe#903 signing out for tonight!
DeleteJohnDoe#999 out
DeleteStill reading these post, but wanted to tell you to stay strong Allie...and to know there are prayers being said for you the have the strength you need, and the peace within to get through this latest stupidity from Bill Windsor.
ReplyDeleteTake care, and stay strong.
May you find many blessings Allie, and I mean that from my heart.
DeleteHey Webby, if you're out trolling tonight maybe you could answer a question for me.
ReplyDeleteWhere did Ginger ever write anything like this?
"Among the claims in the lawsuit, Ginger Snap had accused Margetis of being the homosexual lover of former Ellis County Observer blog author Joey G. Dauben..."
Good point. Of course, since the post have voluntarily been taken down all we have is our memory. But as I recall, Gingersnap posed a question regarding Joey's relationship with Margetis.
DeleteWell if that's true then webby would have a record of that correct? You know to prove it as fact, like any good "journalist"?
DeleteHe's a sicko and doesn't deserve the time of day & a sorry excuse for a human being. Enough said.
DeleteOoopsie :) forgot to add.... my Opinion only :)
DeleteActually I was the one that insinuated the issue. But it made for good tabloid reading.
DeleteHey Curtis.
DeleteYappy, you are the sick person. I'm sure that statement in itself is enough to send you into a rant about how your stepfather allegedly molested you and therefore you are entitled to verbally abuse others. And that no one has the right to defend themselves against your lies. You are one crazy bitch. That's not just my opinion, lots of others think so too. What is more, you aren't especially bright. I don't think that can be improved, but maybe they could put you on some drugs that might balance you out a little?
ReplyDeleteFO Webb.
DeleteWebby is a little like Beetlejuice, except you just have to mention his name once and his spidey senses bring him out. Also Beetlejuice is better looking.
DeleteI agree, and I'd raise your bet with Windsor's car, RV, two houses, wife and kids.
Delete:)
DeleteYappy is the sicko? Webb enjoys attacking children who get raped, go read his blog. It speaks for itself.
DeleteWebb, do you need to fill out a hurt feelings report? would it make you feel better?
DeleteIt's funny how you say you know other people who think that yappy is a meanie. Who are these people? your little internet buddies? or did you take out a Craigslist ad to find out who the only Canadian residing in Houston is?
Mr. Webb, how awful your life must be. You must be so full of rage and anger to repeatedly attack people like Yappy in order to make yourself feel better. Must hurt so bad to look in the mirror and not see who you want everyone else to see when they look at you.
DeleteReading the continuous garbage you post reminds me of a sadistic sociopath who goes out in a rage and attacks decent people in hopes that when they have reached their limit, they will strike back. Then you blame them for attacking you.
You are the complete opposite of Yappy and I should know because I have lived with her for over 20 years. She is a beautiful person inside and out and has a heart of gold. She will not sit quietly and let the likes of you hurt and abuse her or other people. That's only one attribute that makes her beautiful.
You call her abusive yet your verbal attacks wreak of abuse. Go away and live your pathetic life, look for others to bash and abuse. Find another punching bag because your attacks on Yappy must end, yet you have no spine and morals so expecting you to change is hopeless.
Yappy doesn't need to be defended, she can handle herself quite well, but take it for what it's worth, this husband and ex-military MAN will always have her back.
-Mr Yappy
Did you happen to notice the sequence of events? Yappy calls him a sicko and sorry excuse for a human being, then he responds in kind. Yappy is the aggressor.
DeleteNice try, no she's not. Webb has spent months attacking Yappy without any provocation on her part.
DeleteYappy is also correct. Webb is a sick man who delights in attacking children who were raped. Or haven't you seen his relentless attacks on Joey's rape victim?
DeleteHey guys I'm back for the 2nd night. :)
ReplyDelete-Gay old lonely man
http://editorcurtisbutler.blogspot.com/2013/05/david-webb-needs-history-lesson-i-am.html
ReplyDeleteFor those of you intrested
Send a message to some of David Webb's friends. Let them know how he takes pleasure in attacking child rape victims.
ReplyDeleteTroy Luethe
Sherry Lee French
Robin Brown
Laurel White Drennan
Veletta Forsythe Lill
Peter Muller
Desarae Lindsey
Carter Reed
Linda Lane Bloise
Jo Hargis
Rebecca Wolford Stoker
Ted Switzer
Cannon Flowers
Gregory Pynes
Janet Bridges
Keith Blackwell
Andre Geralds
Ron Allen
Justice Milsom
Jay Narey
Eric Crawford
Sally Chapman
Shall we continue the list David Webb?
Why, are you tired of typing?
Delete^^^ DW, another instigator. Not a 'victim' by any means. Writing lies, half truths, and perpetuating drama. Margetis has no case, but DW will use his own vindictive side, to twist an article, leave out the actual, factual comments or questions. DW could be hauled into court for his own lies.
Delete*nerve
ReplyDeleteSo Bill has been trying to play the poor vs rich card again. And his people fall right in line:
ReplyDeleteJan Peterson-Bryan There are two forms of justice: that for the wealthy and powerful and that for those in poverty and hopelessness.
Well, uh, can somebody explain to me why Bill didn't win his court battle? Or Jeff Baron?
Yeah the white rich man talking about poverty and justice while interviewing a confessed white male killer. Projectile vomiting also comes to mind.
DeleteI see it, that Bill has used his money/power to throw his weight around, attacking, threatening, harassing anyone he feels like. It is this lifestyle of having money, (hiding money) that propels him to stalk through the courts. If he was truly broke, he wouldn't have the time to do this, he would have to work. His work, his true profession is being a vexatious litigant. Period. His life is tormenting people seemingly just for the fun of it.
DeleteWhile the people he attacks have to take time away from their real jobs, losing their hard earned money to defend themselves against his relentless, frivolous, and malicious attacks. He will sue people for exactly what he himself does to others. He is an instigator. He thrives on drama. It just amazes me how deceitful, despicable, and devious he really is.
Interesting post here, if you need testimony that Bill does in fact drink, Rik Little could verify that. (Last few sentences)
ReplyDeleteRik Little I've met Both parties personally and I believe Allie over Bill anyday (though Bill is really good). I post anti-Feminist posts and I have never made a anti-Woman post. Certain woman and men try and manipulate that FACT and when a woman or man uses feminist tactics, feminist speech patterns, does feminist behavioral modes (especially in the social media) I conclude that that person (male or female) is a Feminist. And FEMINISM is BAD and the GREATEST BULLSHIT I HAVE EVER WITNESSED DEVELOP IN MY ENTIRE LIFE. It is the cause of Americas biggest problems. Bill cyber raped me and was dishonest about a lot of things about me, Allie and himself. I watched him drink a pint of beer in Washington DC a few months ago and he says that he does not drink alcohol. He lies like a Feminist, pathologically.
April 29 at 3:35pm
@Sluggo ya, and Windsour said or posted that he downloads this site every night. Hoping someone has a screenshot or a voice clip from the talkshoe of that! Again, we only discuss what he says and does. First amendment, and him being a public figure and all, we have the right to our opinions to critique him. He doesn't like what people are calling him out on, or the fact that his lies are being documented. Clue for the very self promoted public figure/producer/wanted-to-be-public official, you can't stop public opinion of your very public life.
DeleteNinja,
ReplyDeleteWow! Thanks for that tidbit. I have a question for you:
Billy stated in his complaint Allie was the person who was "obsessed" with joeyisalittlekid.blogspot.com, but Allie has refuted this and has stated it was...drum roll...Billy who was the obsessed party. Is that correct?
My guess is Windsor had other people doing his dirty work to monitor and report back to him. He was probably worried about IP tracking and whatnot. However, my guess is that he's not so worried about it now and regularly checks in. It's just a hunch though. My hunch is that other people from his real, non internet world are here too. And, I don't think any are very happy with him.
DeleteBill's filing has opened himself up to a ton if a good lawyer is involved. His word play may help some of it, but a jury or judge would still understand the meaning.
ReplyDeleteWomen didn't sit on my lap during film. Maybe, but there is a photo of at least one doing it on your trip.
I didn't upgrade to the best room. Probably the best room was taken, but there is an email showing your request for it. And I'm sure the hotel still has a copy of that.
I don't drink. Can we check your receipts?
Allie said I had fake people liking me. As I recall, the number of followers was the thing that was giantly inflated and obviously purchased. Again, let's see your credit cards and paypal.
Lawless America is copyrighted. Yuh, huh, but you didn't mention by whom.
I do all my work myself with some volunteers. - uh didn't you just contradict yourself there? Facebook shows just how much work you have tried to farm out.
Lawless America hasn't hired a pedophile to work. That's right, you haven't hired anybody. You make people do everything for free.
Lawless America does not believe that any pedophiles have done work for Lawless America. That's right, Bill will just put him in the wrongfully convicted category because it's convenient.
The Plantiff is not a tax evader . . . been audited many times . . . Yep, is this because all of the debt collecting lawsuits you've been involved in? Seems a lot of people wanted a piece of you in the 80s in Dallas County . . .
Plantiff never had sexual relations with anyone while away from his spouse - Well I've heard from two people to the contrary just in DC. Can we see your credit card records. Gonna have to check out what large sums of money were paid.
Plaintiff never solicited or accepted investments in Lawless America. . . yeah, you call them donations because investment implies there is a potential return
I only have one social security number. Yeah, nobody said you'd been issued multiples. But did you ever have a database during the movie that might have had this information? I don't know, but it's worth looking, right?
Stalkers have publicized ... uh, everything that has been discussed is publicly available. that's not illegal.
Based on his statements his emails, his financials, his credit card and paypal info should all be fair game.
Excellent post anon !
DeleteOkay I think I caught up now lol This is Jane Doe 868 signing off :-) And Ms. P I did and will take your advice. I got ugly today and should not have and from here on out I will be posting under my other name. Better to be safe than sorry cause those women and the whole alimony deal thing is one scary monster. Scary groups :-)
DeleteNo Woodruff is not the state of fl la coordinator. It is Glen Gibelina and he is truly a piece of work. I would have to dig but he files about every other week against his ex wife. She has had one or two (or more cant remember now) ro's against him (they expire she tries to move on he won't allow it so she refiles for ro). Glen Gibelina also runs the act of courage fb page and various sites. It is Glen who posted that horrible stuff about vawa and how women need to shut up blah blah blah whatever it was. WS do you remember what it was?
ReplyDeleteSo what happens if they actually serve John/Jane Does 1-1000 with papers? One thousand+ useless court dates where he rattles off facebook post 'proof' someone called him meanie names?
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