One of the reason's Allie O had to go was that she wasn't a true believer in this next phase of Lawless America. She was more about getting her child back than all these made up citizen grand juries. Almost instantly after her ousting, in comes the new number two, David Schied from Michigan. David has been studying this type of thing for a long time and is certainly here to advise and hold Billy's hand through this new phase.
We have obtained classified information from David to Bill about the steps they are preparing to take, here it is:
"Procedural
Steps Taken and To Be Taken To Bring Accountability
to
Judicial and Other Government Crimes Through Crime Reporting and Grand Jury
Investigations
(See
more at www.LawlessAmerica.com)
I.
217 days of gathering videotaped testimonies of over 1000 persons reporting
judicial and other
government
crimes (*Captured during the Summer and Fall of 2012)
II.
Written notifications to Congress and Senate about felony crimes being
committed with proof of
delivery
of DVD testimonials to Congress, sent by mail and/or hand-delivered.
(*Reference was also
included
to 18 U.S.C. §4 which holds that “Whoever,
having knowledge of the actual commission of a
felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and
does not as soon as possible make
known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military
authority under the United States,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three
years, or both.")
A.
Cover Letter #1 –
http://lawlessamerica.com/images/stories/government/letters/congressman-eric-acrawford-
letter-dated-2012-12-30.pdf
B.
Cover Letter #2 –
http://lawlessamerica.com/images/stories/government/letters/senator-johnnyisakson-
letter-dated-2013-01-31.pdf
C.
Cover Letter #3 –
http://lawlessamerica.com/images/stories/government/letters/senator-thomas-rcarper-
letter-dated-2013-02-18.pdf
D.
Cover Letter #4 –
http://lawlessamerica.com/images/stories/government/letters/congressmanmichael-
f-doyle-letter-dated-2012-12-30.pdf
E.
Open Letter to Congress –
http://www.lawlessamerica.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1318:openletter-
to-every-member-of-the-us-congress-from-bill-windsor-of-lawlessamerica&
catid=104:initiatives&Itemid=105
F.
Congressional DVD Page –
http://www.lawlessamerica.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1300:congressi
onal-testimony-from-lawless-america-exposing-corruption&catid=133:lawless-america-themovie&
Itemid=105
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G.
Proposed Legislation to Congress and State Legislatures for Honesty in
Government –
http://www.lawlessamerica.com/images/stories/movie/Meet-Me-in-DC/legislation%20proposal-
2013-02-04.pdf
H.
Video explaining the Proposed Legislation by “Nobodies” of the Revolutionary
Party –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI31XbW1Qn8&feature=player_embedded
I.
Bill Windsor’s speech on behalf of the Revolutionary Party in response to
President Obama’s “State
of
the Union 2013” (includes proposals for correcting the wrongs and taking our
country back) –
1)
Video –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rvbRfbI6Fhk#!
2)
Transcript of video –
http://www.lawlessamerica.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1312:stateof-
the-union-address-response-of-the-revolutionary-party&catid=104:initiatives&Itemid=105
III.
Index to the testimonies of persons in all states with references to Federal
Statutes violated
A.
State by State Analysis of Right of Citizens to present Criminal Charges to a
State or County Grand
Jury
–
http://www.lawlessamerica.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1316:state-bystate-
analysis-of-right-of-citizens-to-present-criminal-charges-to-a-state-or-county-grandjury&
catid=130:grand-juries&Itemid=105
B.
Index to the Types of Corruption Testimonies captured by Bill Windsor for
presentation to
Congress
and Senate:
http://www.lawlessamerica.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1291:index-totype-
of-corruption-testimony-presented-to-congress-by-lawless-america&catid=133:lawlessamerica-
the-movie&Itemid=105
IV.
Special Grand Juries –
A.
On or about May 1, we will file criminal charges with grand juries all across
America – state
(multi-county)
and county grand juries as well as federal special grand juries.
1)
Constituents will be requesting a letter from state
and federal legislators to the grand juries
encouraging
them to do what the law provides and allow the charges to be presented.
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2)
We will publicize it all through mainstream and
alternative media sources.
3)
Since citizens are almost always blocked by
prosecuting attorneys and U.S. Attorneys, we will
bring
additional criminal charges against those who violate the law in blocking the evidence
from
being presented to the grand juries, and we will bring criminal charges against
every
member
of Congress who fails to report the felonies that we have reported to them.
B.
Each county should have grand juries, and citizens should be able to directly
present charges of
government
misconduct and corruption to a state and federal Grand Jury. 18 U.S.C. § 3332
reads:
“It shall be the duty of each such grand jury impaneled within any
judicial district to inquire
into offenses against the criminal laws of the United States
alleged to have been committed
within that district. Such
alleged offenses may be brought to the attention of the grand jury by the
court
or by any attorney appearing on behalf of the United States for the
presentation of evidence.
Any such attorney receiving information concerning such an alleged
offense from any other
person shall, if requested by such other person, inform the grand jury of such
alleged offense,
the identity of such other person, and such attorney’s action or
recommendation.”
1)
Every citizen of the United States must be protected in the right to present
charges to a federal
grand
jury. Currently, the U.S. Attorneys all across America block citizens from
their
Constitutional
and legal right to do so. U.S. Attorneys do this to protect their wrongful acts
and
the
corrupt acts of federal judges and others.
2)
When U.S. Attorneys or their “assistants” interfere with citizen reports of
crimes to the special
grand
juries, they are committing numerous felony acts including but not limited to
Interference
with
Grand Jury proceedings, misprision of felony, and obstruction of justice on the
federal
level,
in addition to numerous other state crimes.
3)
U.S. Attorneys and others who block citizens' access to present their charges
to a federal grand
jury
shall be guilty of the crime of treason. Therefore, criminal charges will be
filed against all
who
block access to the federal grand juries. As state and federal legislators have
the
constitutional
DUTY (via “checks and balances”) act to stop the blatant violation of the law
and
the
fundamental rights of Americans by the executive and judicial branches, lists
of government
violators
from these two branches – depending upon their employment at the state or
federal
level
– will be brought to the legislators of the state and federal governments with
the request
that
these the legislative branch bring formal charges against these government “actors”
and
remove
these government “agents” from office.
C.
Procedure for reporting crimes of judges and other government official
interfering with the
reporting
of these crimes to state and federal grand juries:
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1)
An affidavit of criminal conduct will be lodged with the appropriate
prosecutorial entity (state
and
federal) reporting the commission of the alleged crime(s);
2)
At the state (Michigan) level, the following statutes will be cited in support
of judicial and
prosecutorial
(judicial branch and executive branch) enforcement of criminal complaints:
a) MCL 18.351 – [Crime Victim’s
Compensation Board (definitions)] which defines a
“Crime”:
“(c) ‘Crime’ means an act that
is 1 of the following: (i) A
crime under the laws of
this state or the
United States that causes an injury within
this state. (ii) An act
committed
in another state that if committed in this state would constitute
a crime under the laws of
this state or the United States, that causes an injury within this state or that causes an
injury to a resident of this state within a state that does not
have a victim compensation
program eligible for funding from the victims of crime act of
1984, chapter XIV of title II of
the comprehensive crime control act of 1984, Public Law 98-473, 98
Stat. 2170.”
b) MCR Rule 6.101 (Rules of
the Court) holding that, “A
complaint is described as a written
accusation that a
named or described person has committed a specified criminal offense.
The complaint must include the substance of the accusation against
the accused and the
name and statutory citation of the offense. (B) (Signature and Oath) The
complaint must be
signed and sworn to before a judicial officer or court clerk…..”
c) MCL 761.1 and MCL 750.10 which describe an “indictment” as “a formal
written
complaint or accusation written under Oath affirming that one or
more crimes have been
committed and names the person or persons guilty of the offenses”.
d) MCL 767.3 holding that at the
least, “The filing of any such complaint SHALL give
probable cause for any judge of law and of record to suspect that
such offense or offenses
have been committed…and that such complaint SHALL warrant the judge to direct an
inquiry into the matters relating to such complaint”.
e) MCL 764.1(a) which
holds that, “A magistrate SHALL issue a warrant upon presentation
of a proper complaint alleging the commission of an offense and a
finding of reasonable
cause to believe that the
individual or individuals accused in the complaint committed the
offense”.
f) MCL 764.1(b) which
calls for an “arrest without delay”
3)
At the federal level, the only citation needed with presenting a crime report
to the federal
prosecutor
(U.S. Attorney) is the one cited above as 18
U.S.C. §3332.
4)
If the state or federal prosecutor declines to act upon the affidavit of crime
report within 14
5
days,
or declines within 3 days to provide the complainant(s) with proper notice of
their crime
victims’
rights (and to subsequently conclude an investigation and prosecute within 120
days
following
the lodging of such a complaint) then a separate criminal complaint will be
added
against
that prosecutor (as well as against the senior prosecutor in the event that the
prosecutor
is an “assistant”).
V. Starting
this summer, in states where the judicial, executive and legislative branches
of government are
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noncompliant
we will begin conducting sessions of our own citizen grand juries and courts in
which we
will put all
the criminals on trial for their crimes, and when appropriate, treason. We will
publicize
this. The
listing of crimes will be as follows (Source comes from
http://www.lawlessamerica.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=452:nationalgrand-
jury-filing-month-september-2011-file-criminal-charges-for-corruption&catid=130:grandjuries&
Itemid=105 and
http://www.lawlessamerica.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1317:criminalcharges-
that-you-may-have-against-corrupt-government-officials-and-others&catid=130:grandjuries&
Itemid=105):
1) Honest
Services Fraud -- 18 U.S.C. § 1346 --
Read about Honest Services Fraud
2) RICO
(Organized Crime) -- 18 U.S.C. § 1961–1968 (See
if your state has a state RICO Act. If
so, that may
be your most important charge.)
3) Obstruction
of Justice and Witness Tampering -- 18 U.S.C. § 1503 --
Read about Obstruction of
Justice
4)
Criminal Judicial Misconduct
5) False
Statements to State – Your State statute, for example, O.C.G.A.
16-10-20
6) Tampering
with Evidence – Your State statute, for example, Georgia: O.C.G.A.
16-10-94
7)
18 U.S.C. § 1341 -- Mail Fraud and 18 U.S.C. 1346 (honest
services)
8)
18 U.S.C. § 1001 -- False Swearing – Making False Statements
9) Perjury -- 18
U.S.C. § 1623
10) Perjury --
Your State statute, for examole, Georgia: O.C.G.A.
16-10-70
11) Conspiracy
to Defraud United States -- 18 U.S.C. § 371
12) Subornation
of Perjury – 18 USC § 1622
13)
Subornation of Perjury -- Your State statute, for example, Georgia: O.C.G.A.
16-10-72
14)
Subornation of Perjury -- Your State statute, for example, Georgia: O.C.G.A.
16-10-93
15) Witness
Tampering – Your State statute, for example, Georgia: O.C.G.A.
16-10-93
16) Misprision
of Felony -- 18 U.S.C. 4
17) [NOTE:
O.C.G.A. applies to Georgia only. Research these same violations for your state
-- Here's
an
index to make it easy.]
18) I am not
an attorney. I imagine there are other statutes that have been broken.
19)
Some Other Possible Statutes:
20) Bribery --
18 U.S.C. 201-227
21) Conspiracy
Against Rights -- 18 U.S. C. 241
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22)
Deprivation of Rights under Color of Law -- 18 U.S.C. 242
23) Fraud by
Wire, Radio, or Television -- 18 U.S.C. 1343 and
1346 (honest services)
24) Attempt
and Conspiracy to Commit Fraud -- 18 U.S.C. 1349
25) Theft or
Alteration of Record or Process; False Bail -- 18
U.S.C. 1506
26)
Obstruction of Court Orders -- 18 U.S.C. 1509
27) Tampering
with a Witness, Victim, or an Informant -- 18 U.S.C. 1512
28) Gratuity, 18
U.S.C. § 201(c)
29) Extortion
(color of law), 18 U.S.C. § 1951
30) Theft of
Government Property, 18 U.S.C. § 641
31) Theft by
Government Officials, 18 U.S.C. § 654
32) Bribery or
Theft in Programs receiving Federal Funds, 18 U.S.C. § 666
33) Money
Laundering, 18 U.S.C. §1956
34) Tax Fraud
(evasion, failure to file, filing a false return), 26 U.S.C. §§ 7201,
7203, and 7206 (1)).
Notify IRS
early so they can join the investigation.
35) Drug
Trafficking, 21 U.S.C. §§ 841,
846 (common in police corruption cases) conflict
of interest,
18 U.S.C. §§ 203,
205, 207,
208, and 209 (not
commonly used as stand-alone charges)
VI. Anyone who
feels their court experience was improper should collaborate with others to do
the
following in
effort to have their case reviewed by a Grand Jury (as provided from the
following
resource
webpage (Note: We will work a coordinated effort on this collectively) –
http://www.lawlessamerica.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=805:how-to-reacha-
grand-jury-to-present-criminal-charges-against-corrupt-judges-attorneys-and-government-officialsbig-
audience-expected-for-talkshoe-on-april-5-2012-&catid=130:grand-juries&Itemid=105
and
http://www.lawlessamerica.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=452:nationalgrand-
jury-filing-month-september-2011-file-criminal-charges-for-corruption&catid=130:grandjuries&
Itemid=105) :
A. Prepare
letters to each Grand Juror. If there are 23 grand jurors and three alternates,
you want
envelopes
addresses to Grand Juror #1, #2...#25, and Grand Juror Alternate #1, 2, 3. [Letter
to the
Grand
Jurors] Prepare labels for each envelope that say
"PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL."
I included a
page with my photo and a short bio so they would see that I don't appear to be
a
nutcase.
B. Prepare a
letter to the receptionist. [Receptionist Letter]
The important thing to me about this
letter is that
it puts the receptionist on notice. She is being told in writing (and I will have
a
signature of
receipt obtained by the courier) that this is PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL
information
that she has a legal obligation to have delivered directly to the grand jurors.
C. Prepare a
letter to the County District Attorney (or whoever is the entity that is
claiming control
over the grand
jury). [Letter to Fulton County District Attorney] The
important thing to me
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about this
letter is that I am putting the District Attorney on notice that I believe he
is violating the
law by
ignoring my complaints of criminal violations. By advising him that I will be
asking the
Grand Jury to
investigate him and his office, I am hoping that this stops the DA from trying
to
interfere. If
he blocks my attempts to have him investigated, it's even worse than if he
simply
blocks my
complaints against the judges.
D. Have a
courier service deliver your sealed PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL envelopes and a
loose letter
to the receptionist. The courier's instructions are to give the receptionist
two envelopes
with letters
to the County District Attorney and the Fulton County Employee responsible for
the
Grand Jury as
well as the cover letter to the receptionist. The courier will ask the
receptionist to
read the
letter that is addressed to to her/him.
E. Note: (Bill
Windsor) did not provide the Receptionist or the District Attorney with a copy
of the
letter to the
Grand Jurors. (He) did not want them to know what I was sending PERSONAL AND
CONFIDENTIAL
to the Grand Jurors. The less they know, the better chance they might not try
to
interfere.
F. If you do
not receive confirmation that your envelopes have been delivered to each Grand
Juror,
mail certified
letters return receipt to each of the Grand Jurors. That way, if someone
interferes
with the
personal and confidential mail, I would ask the U.S. Postal Service to become
involved.
G. Go to the
Grand Jury area each day they meet. Take a large envelope addressed to the
Grand Jury
and have
EVIDENCE written on it in giant letters with a dark felt tip marker. Evidence
is the key
word, because
if government employees block you from delivering evidence to the Grand Jury,
it is
absolutely a
crime, in my opinion from reading the statutes. If you have a lot of evidence,
take a
box similarly
marked. Position yourself in a place where everyone entering and leaving will
see
you and your
EVIDENCE. Get a photo taken of you holding your evidence at the Grand Jury
area.
Ask at least
one person who sees you to give you their name, address, and phone as a witness
that
you were
there. If possible, have a witness accompany you. Take a recorder -- a cell
phone with a
recording
feature is ideal.
H. (Bill
Windsor) took a big hand-held sign that said "HELP - Must Speak to Grand
Jury - Have
EVIDENCE."
I. You might
also take letters to hand to everyone you see. Plead your case and demand to be
heard to
any grand
juror who will stop for a second.
J. Document
everything. Get the names and titles of anyone who speaks with you; ask for
their
business
cards.
K. If you are
threatened with a crime, document. Get witnesses.
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L. On each
visit, present the receptionist with an envelope addressed to the Grand Jury
and marked
EVIDENCE. If
the receptionist refuses to take it and deliver it, note the date, time, what
was said,
and get
witnesses. In my opinion, this is a crime.
M. On each
visit, ask any sheriff's deputy (or whatever entity serves as the bailiff for
the Grand Jury) to
take your envelope
and present it to the Grand Jury. If the bailiff refuses, note the date, time,
what
was said, and
get witnesses.
N. When you
meet with the Grand jury, be prepared.
O. Start by
asking for a roll call, and ask for a list of the names of the Grand Jurors.
P. Verify that
each Grand Juror has taken the required oath.
Q. Ask if the
session is being recorded and can you obtain a copy of the recording. Ask if
you can
record.
R. Present
each Grand Juror with a binder containing your information.
S. Provide an overview.
Then concisely present each charge, explain the elements, and show the
evidence that
the elements for the charge have been met. Make good eye contact. You must
establish
confidence with the audience; they have to believe you are a sincere, honest
person.
T.
What If...
U. If your
efforts fail, stay at it. (Bill Windsor) went to the Grand Jury area every
Friday for almost
two months
before (he) got in.
V. If your
state has a statute for empanelling a Special Grand Jury, do whatever is
needed. In Georgia,
(Bill Windsor
went) door-to-door to every elected county official's office until (he got)
someone to
sign my
petition. If the Grand Jurors do not grant (him) an audience, (he) will do this
because the
end result
would be the impaneling of a Special Grand Jury solely for the purpose of
investigating
my charges.
(He) also went to and spoke at the Meeting of the County Commissioners and
asked
each of them
to sign the required petition.
W. Follow up
everything with faxes every few days asking for action and documenting what
hasn't
been done. You want a paper trial
of violation proof."
Obviously there is a whole lot to mull over here, but two things I want to point out. First, anyone who stands in their way will be guilty and charged of treason (which of course is Bill's only punishment by death). "
"Starting this summer, in states where the judicial, executive and legislative branches of government are
noncompliant we will begin conducting sessions of our own citizen grand juries and courts in which we
will put all the criminals on trial for their crimes, and when appropriate, treason. We will publicize
this."
This is where they start crossing the line and into coordinated domestic terrorist activities. Its all fun and games until you actually start to impersonate law enforcement.
Sort of a Greatest Hits of Windsor's declarations over the past several months.
ReplyDeleteWindsor's interpretation of 18 U.S.C. § 4 ("Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be fined ... or imprisoned....") has always been eye-roll-worthy silliness. Some crackpot hollering that crimes have been committed (and citing "massive evidence" that is in fact nothing more than a large collection of heated allegations) does NOT give the people who hear it "knowledge of the actual commission of a felony."
Allegations are not knowledge, and as a result, all of the yelling, DVD-sending, and burying-government-officials-in-meaningless-paper Windsor can manage does nothing to give anyone knowledge of the alleged underlying crimes—especially given his exceedingly poor credibility when it comes to evaluating evidence or applying the law. Ignoring a raving crackpot is simply not misprision of a felony.
For the nth time, the law just doesn't say what Bill Windsor thinks (and declares) it does. And the result, yet again, is that his conclusions are a joke.
Then, the quoted document's references to treason specifically are more than a little ominous. I'm not as convinced as some jialk denizens that Windsor really intends that allegation to threaten violence (even though he's also said he thinks capital punishment should be reserved for cases of treason)... but the ugly implications are absolutely there. If Windsor's public advocacy ever gets him in Serious Trouble—i.e., something worse than contempt of court, avoidance of creditors, or defamation—I suspect it's his blathering about treason that will be the cause.
I appreciate your insight & feedback regarding this Attorney. Thank you
Delete@Attorney: I think the treason accusations are meant to be provocative. Treason has become a buzzword amongst extreme reformists.
DeleteWilly is just one of many people railing against the system. I'm sure there are many people out there doing a much better job of it than him.
I think Willy probably provides comic relief to the people assigned to keep an eye on activists. He is a real live caricature of an activist. Every aspect of his behavior is exaggerated to the point that it becoms funny. His ego, his incompetence, his stupidity, his attempts to create a cult like atmosphere for his followers, his hilarious interpretations of law, the idiotic movie, the death threats.
He is a stooge.
Why would the government ever want to bother him? He creates busy work for activists. When he is through with them, they will feel so defeated they will walk away forever from trying to address the things that concern them. From the government's perspective, what's not to like about Willy? I don't see anyone ever trying to stop his pathetic ass.
Well Susan, the Judicial system didn't think he was just making busy work. He became an annoyance, flooding the system with frivolous paperwork and filings. You really just don't get it. You are the only one on here, who seems to downplay his past vexatious history, which he is teaching his followers.
Delete"Why would the government ever want to bother with him?" If he is going to launch a paper terrorist war on the courts May 1st, they will care. It will waste tons of tax payer money, and tie up the Judicial system with frivolous crap. You're just too annoying. Go join Willy, he needs people like you without a clue.
Why would the government ever want to bother him?
DeleteWell, contempt of court is not exactly jaywalking. Especially Windsor's personal flavor of contempt: I'm shocked that he's gotten away with it to the extent he has. (As I've said before, if I had been in his shoes I would have been on my knees, begging Judge Duffey's forgiveness, something like two years ago.) Openly defying the authority of the federal courts is not something that people ought to be able to do.
And if law enforcement takes Windsor's ominous implications about treason seriously (I suspect they shouldn't, but who really knows?), that would certainly be a reason to "bother him" as well.
@Attorney: Oh there is NO DOUBT he has done enough that if they want to railroad him they will. At least two people are currently in jail on trumped up criminal charges for doing less than Willy has done.
DeleteThe only reason he has not been jailed for contempt is that MoM has not taken all of the steps they can take to collect their judgment. They have to exhaust those remedies before the court can justify jailing Willy for contempt. That work should be completed soon and I expect them to file a new motion for contempt. When the judge tells Willy to pay up or head to the pokey, I assume he will pay up.
As for the "treason", my point was that there are many others out there saying the same thing and some of those people are involved in some serious stuff. It makes more sense to go after people that can be charged with numerous crimes, like the four that were just convicted. In the grand scheme, Willy is the smallest of small fish and the government would look like a retaliatory bully if it went after him. BUT, you just never know!
Oh there is NO DOUBT he has done enough that if they want to railroad him they will.
Delete"Railroad"? As in, you think it would be illegitimate to punish Windsor criminally for his flagrant contempt of court? Seriously?
The only reason he has not been jailed for contempt is that MoM has not taken all of the steps they can take to collect their judgment. They have to exhaust those remedies before the court can justify jailing Willy for contempt.
"They have to" do that because Duffey ruled that they do. He didn't have to rule that way; he's cutting Windsor substantially more slack than the law (which provides federal judges plenty of discretion to decide when to smack people who have committed flagrant contempt) requires him to. (It's rather ironic that Windsor's most important protector is a federal judge whom Windsor has been sliming six ways from Sunday for several years.)
You asked: "Why would the government ever want to bother him?" I answered that the government (here, Judge Duffey) might want to bother Windsor because he has committed stunning levels of contempt of court... which is behavior that is criminally punishable for very good reasons. That answer holds regardless of what the Maid folks do, or fail to do, to collect money from Windsor—or what Duffey rules those folks are required to do.
@ Attorney: wishing Blogger had a "like" button for your 4:01 comments. So instead ****standing....applauding****
DeleteAs regards this statement in your earlier post "I'm not as convinced as some jialk denizens that Windsor really intends that allegation to threaten violence..."
If the denizens to whom you refer are participants on this blog, I think we are in agreement. It is the groups on the periphery supporting Bills efforts that cause concerns of violence. Whether Bill's intent is to use violence or not, he presents himself and is viewed in a leadership position. Some of the words and phrases he uses are a catalyst for those groups and some individuals that advocate violent over throw and arrest of government officials.
There have been several connections and links posted here with regard these groups. The last one connected to Bill through a motorcycle club, in case you didn't see it, was relative to the ADA assissinated in Kaufman, TX. I don't recall the blog talk title exactly, but it was along the lines of, it's about time attorneys or District Attorneys found out they aren't invincible. The blog comments were explicit in support of gunning people down. That is the concern we are discussing.
@Attorney: I think you are confusing my comments on the two VERY different issues. I take the blame for it because in my post I first referred to the possibility of bringing charges against Willy for this political antics, then I mentioned the contempt, then went back to the political antics. ::smack head::
DeleteI respectfully disagree that Duffey cut Willy any slack. The court's discretion is not unbridled and Duffey recognized that by writing:
At the present time, these coercive, but non-punitive, sanctions for Mr.
Windsor’s civil contempt should be adequate to ensure compliance with his
obligation to pay the Outstanding Sanctions Awards without being any greater than necessary to ensure such compliance. See Citronelle-Mobile Gathering, Inc. v. Watkins, 943 F.2d 1297, 1304 (11th Cir. 1991). See Doc. 356, case 1:09-cv-01543-WSD, Northern District of Georgia Atlanta Division.
Gathering cites the holding from Matter of Trinity Industries, Inc., 876 F.2d 1493 (11th Cir.1989), “Sanctions may be imposed to coerce the contemnor to comply with the court's order, but may not be so excessive as to be punitive in nature.”
A District Court does not have the discretion to take punitive action when the due process requirements have not been met. I would suggest that due process in the case of collecting a judgment, requires the court to follow a course of graduating degrees of coercion. In this case, the FIRST level of coercion is the responsibility of MoM.
Where I asked why the GOVERNMENT would want to bother Willy, I was referring to the idea of addressing his political antics.
Just for fun I'm going to try and guess which one you are anon 8:24! Given the multiple levels of stupidity contained in those three short sentences, I'm going to guess you are Spawn.
DeleteNope. sorry. Wrong again.
DeleteI thought you didn't read posts from Anon's.
Did I say I don't READ or did I say I don't RESPOND to Anons? Either way, the beauty of making up my own mind means I can also change it whenever I want!
DeleteNow you see, I don't think Anon 8:57 is Spawn, because the post is too calm. Spawn would generally be having a seizure marked by repeatedly writing STFU, in response to me calling him stupid.
Yes, I'm sticking with Spawn for Anon 8:36...although there are others stupid enough to have written that post, I'm going with my gut.
STFU
Deletenot Spawn
Nope, 9:19, you are definitely not Spawn.
DeleteI am no longer interested in playing with Spawn though. I had a brief moment of boredom and it has passed.
Gee Susan, Spawn has always been my fav.
Delete@Allie: One man's trash is another man's gold right? To each her own!
DeleteBesides Allie, it's not that I don't enjoy him, lol, because I do!
DeleteRegardless of which of your "rules" for Anons, DON'T read or DON'T respond, you did both above, Susan. You read it, obviously & then responded.
Delete@Petunia: This is an astute observation there ^^! Did you see above where I said, "Did I say I don't READ or did I say I don't RESPOND to Anons? Either way, the beauty of making up my own mind means I can also change it whenever I want!"
DeleteYep, I make rules for MYSELF and since they are only for me, I get to change them whenever it suits me!
Based upon past court history of Windsor, it seems that nothing matters, only that he lost. So what I see, none of these people will take a defeat. They will keep going until they win, and the "bad guys" are charged with Treason. (Bad guys being anyone who disagrees with them)
ReplyDeleteWho cares if they have a leg to stand on, or if their "evidence" supports their claims of corruption. Nothing but them winning matters, and they will just claim more corruption against anyone who doesn't agree with them.
There is only ONE way to rule in all of this that I can see. Their way.
Now how is that fixing corruption for the true, innocent people they will bring down?
Indeed. Windsor has to be one of the sorest losers in American legal history.
DeleteI agree 100%.
DeleteHmmm, you mean like NutMeg lost her child and a case to recover gold in imaginary "green boxes" out of the attic of her ex's home and now lashes out at anyone including her own father because he refused to give her more free money.
DeleteShe particularly enjoys attacking anyone who has had issues with the courts and actually attempts to help others, hiding behind any number of fake names and not only playing the "victim" but attacking those who really are?
Judgment day comes upon us all eventually ...
Ok anon. YOU DO Understand that there's no Nutmeg here (fact) and 99% of the new anons and commenters don't have a clue what you're talking about. Take your wheel barrel of meds and move on.
DeleteOh anon 11:04, please sign some kind of screen name to your posts so I can talk with you!
DeleteYes please anon, Susan is your kind of person :) She doesn't have a clue who you are so this should be absolutely delightful LMFAO
Deletethat was good yappy!!!
Delete*giggle snorting*
Deleteooooooh, that will be some conversation!
A lot of fury signifying nothing.
ReplyDeleteBill has personal knowledge of what
in Kansas ?
Nothing.
He knows little beyond his Georgia cracker
barrel.
There was not one fact in the rantings
set forth as agenda Bill, not one fact,
Bill is not strong on facts and real evidence beyond
the Georgia state lines.
Is it a crime to make false reports to
Police Authorties ...?
Is it ..?
A lot of fury signifying nothing.
DeleteThe guy who initially said that (or something close) had a beef with his government, too. Let's hope Windsor doesn't follow his example. (It would make Barbara a more interesting character in this whole story, though. "Fill me from the crown to the toe top-full/Of direst cruelty"—yow!)
@Attorney: You know whatever else we may think of Willy, it is notable that his wife has apparently worked by his side for many years. I wonder if she is just like him or if he acts entirely different around her. Or maybe he was a normal person until MoM and then he went nuts. Ah, the mystery of Barbara!
DeleteI don't think he was. If you read the initial decision in the Maid case, it certainly appears that the original seed of the whole problem is that Bill himself was openly, sneeringly scamming Maid, not to mention swindling Alcatraz's own customers. A 2005 Windsor e-mail to Maid's counsel makes the shakedown entirely explicit; it ends with "Alcatraz Media will settle for $4 million and a long-term contract to sell for Maid of the Mist." Chutzpah beyond belief. (I don't think Bill would like it if his followers read that e-mail.)
DeleteAs for Barbara, yes, she is a mystery. Which is one reason that it would be fascinating if she were like the character that Anonymous above is sorta kinda implying she could be.
His tenor does seem greatly diminished. It's a CEASE & DESIST....NO it's a TRO...No it's a...VEXY BOY!
DeleteHe needs Viagra for his legal "theory" he went from his testosterone fueld TRO rage then down half erect C&D demand to a flacid request for a "retraction".
If I were to retract everything said about or to him then that would mean he'd have to retract everything he's said about himself. It's his own words and actions that have formed my opinion on him, how about you?
I just re-read the Maid opinion and noticed that it quotes an even sneerier, "This is a shakedown"-ier e-mail from Bill to Maid, to wit:
DeleteI am so disappointed that you have not called.
We have secured the testimony of three customers who will testify to the slander, trade libel and various wrongs perpetrated by employees of Maid of the Mist. We have names, dates and times, and detailed comments. One of the Maid of the Mist supervisors even told a customer to call his bank and file a chargeback. I'm sure you know the various laws that violates.
I'm afraid we're going to clean up in court against you.
Wouldn't you rather just pay us a seven figure amount and accept that we will be selling maid(sic) of the Mist tickets forever? Write us a big fat check.
There's that genial old grandpa we've heard so much about.
It's difficult to imagine an old, toothless wolf attempting to strike fear in my heart.
DeleteHe might look like Santa with all the "girls" sitting on his lap (would love to see him and Schied in that pose) This is so comical all he can do is rob people of their hopes, dreams and donations.
Although I'm sure this is obvious, some states require a retraction request before a plaintiff can sue for defamation.
Delete@Susan-knows-it-all-NOT
DeletezzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz
It's like Homer Simpson trying to educate John Nash in quantum mechanics.
DeleteRepeat not one fact on what was noted as
ReplyDeleteBill's agenda spewed forth by his
# 2, some designated gofer, as recounted above.
Bill is not a U S Attorney in Kansas, or
an Official Sheriff in Kansas, or a D A in Kansas.
Google, making false reports to police Authorties,
or similar .
I have come up with an Epic plan: we need to persuade Bill Windsor into going to North Korea b4 Monday so we can take care of 2 birds with one stone, since North Korea is gonna be wiped off the face of the earth come more likely Monday
ReplyDeletelol Brannon and his sarcasm. If only God could be so creative ;)
DeleteKarma has arrived for Billy but I have a feeling she (karma) hasn't even begun to sink those teeth in yet. I'd prefer for Billy's victims to see him suffer the consequences of his actions ala justice.
China better do something about their bratty little pissy brother and fast hey?!
I looooove Brannon's idea~
DeleteBrannon we already sent out BEST guy to him, Dennis Rodman!
Deleteroflmao!
Dennis Rodman made a trip to N K,
ReplyDeletealready.
Ignoring Bill would be the best course.
He is just a hog for attention, and
seems inclined to pull any stunt to as a
ploy to plastert his name all over the
WWW, with some outrageous bull .
Lmao ya I saw that about Rodman lol supposedly Monday is when North Korea is planning on attacking South Korea... Ive been getting updates via Twitter and staying on top of the Updates thank god for twitter
ReplyDeleteWhere did this quote come from "Starting this summer, in states where the judicial, executive and legislative branches of government are
ReplyDeletenoncompliant we will begin conducting sessions of our own citizen grand juries and courts in which we
will put all the criminals on trial for their crimes, and when appropriate, treason. We will publicize
this."
I think Bill's new "partners" will end up being his downfall. They aren't a bunch of mothers trying to get their kids back.These groups are organized & serious. They are going to expect to see some organzation & results from Bill.They will also want their donations used towards their cause,not for a RV or hotel suites for Bill as he tours the US filming even more people & eating pie.They also wont care about being on his hit list after he kicks them out for questioning him. Bob
ReplyDeleteQuite the interesting comments by Allie over on the FB page. I hope she doesn't mind my copy / paste here. Not everyone is reading over there. Very interesting Allie, thank you for sharing. I hope you continue do expose him.
ReplyDeletelol @ the b rated internet TV show. Was it Wiley Drake's perhaps? rofl
@ basement -----chuckling.
Allie Overstreet I could go on and on, with every hater he publicky ousted via lies, exaggerations, and small bits of truth thrown in. I am just sorry I didn't see it sooner. But alas, I was blinded and biased like you are. Plus, he literally copied me on over a thousand emails and after awhile I stopped opening them. Wish I would have. The standing room only in Missouri, was five people. The getting run out of Montana by corrupt cops was one nice cop asking what they wrre doing. The road trip after the second Wadhington trip was fake. He was in his Georgia basement. Yep, got the emails of admissions. The meetings with movie producers and tv shows was a phonecall with a b rated internet show and done from his home. The donations were used for his own personal use, not the movement, and nobody got receipts unless I wrote it by hand. He threw my copies away. The trademark and copywrites were fake. Yes, emails in my file of him panicking when WTP put a tm on the name. He adked Dottie and I what to do because he had lied all along saying he owned it. The stolen camera was not stolen. The stolen banner was not stolen. The ousting of three haters in DC was really him letying them in willingly then lying to make a show. The show on the live stream about filming inside the capitol was staged. We knew
about an hour ago via mobile · Unlike · 2
Allie Overstreet a few weeks earlier that we couldn't film there. Yet he allowed hurting and desparate people sleep on floors and use their rent money to get there, telling them they would speak for Congress. The guy has peoples ss numbers. what the hell for? He advises the public to stalk people, gather data on them and report back to him. Including pictures of their homes, phone nunbers, addresses. He sets up hate and directs public to attack then acts like hes innocent and cant control public. Please. He calls peoples families , bosses, courthouses, to say he knows bad things about them. And when he realky needs a jump in facebook activity , he says a child is dead then pins it on the one who pissed him off last, convincing his closest lemmings to believe his mockrd up evidence. He is a mess. A vengeful, spiteful, narcissistic, noncaring, lying, hurtful mess. He has caused more harm than good. What exactly has he done that has helped anyone? Anything? He did bring alot of folks together, thats good, but then he spit them out when they wanted to get serious about changing the system. Bill Windsor doesn't want to change the system. He wants to kerp the negativity going while he spouts how he will save America. Save America from what exactly? From the likes of Bill Windsor?
Here's the link for the discussion for everyone to read:
https://www.facebook.com/BillWindsorIsAFraudAndLiesOutTheAss/posts/416407588449380?comment_id=2595006¬if_t=feed_comment
Yikes. Note to self...stop texting and driving, the typos haunt you for days.
DeleteThe Korean would give bill am rv and it might have extras on it like a missle remember spies like us or stripes
ReplyDeleteJust FYI - here's an interesting tidbit from my local paper today - "4 'Sovereign Citizen' activists convicted"
ReplyDeletehttp://www.thenewstribune.com/2013/03/08/2504379/4-anti-government-activists-convicted.html#emlnl=Local_News
@Life: Yes, a lot of them have been prosecuted. Then they go to live in our "illegitimate" prisons. What a waste.
ReplyDelete@Life, that's a great article!
DeleteJust to add to that discussion here's some foor for thought. I remembered that, Wesley Snipes, also has "connections" to the sovereign movent. You know how that ended for him. roflmao
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/8198-%E2%80%9Csovereign-citizen-movement%E2%80%9D-continues-to-attract-attention
AND.....they are a real life HATE GROUP
DeleteIf he thinks that FBI wasn't watching him before, he has now linked his name everywhere to these nutz.
Sovereign Citizens Movement
The strange subculture of the sovereign citizens movement, whose adherents hold truly bizarre, complex antigovernment beliefs, has been growing at a fast pace since the late 2000s. Sovereigns believe that they — not judges, juries, law enforcement or elected officials — get to decide which laws to obey and which to ignore, and they don't think they should have to pay taxes. Sovereigns are clogging up the courts with indecipherable filings and when cornered, many of them lash out in rage, frustration and, in the most extreme cases, acts of deadly violence, usually directed against government officials. In May 2010, for example, a father-son team of sovereigns murdered two police officers with an assault rifle when they were pulled over on the interstate while traveling through West Memphis, Ark.
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/ideology/sovereign-citizens-movement
Whoa! The LA blog is offline! ("This site is currently unavailable.")
ReplyDeleteMaybe this is a temporary blip... and maybe it's something more serious. Inquiring minds want to know!
Indeed it is! Googling the number on the page leads to GoDaddy of course, and several comments from people saying it's the number to the billing department. Maybe he forgot to pay his annual hosting fee.
DeleteOne of his followers is trying to let him know via FB - https://www.facebook.com/lawlessamerica/posts/271527966314835
Delete...Or maybe one of the many people slimed on the site got it shut down?
DeleteA temporary and meaningless hosting snafu is entirely possible, of course.
We can only hope so...... godaddy is kinda sensitive to threats from his kind lately.
DeleteI know for a fact that GoDaddy was informed by several individuals about that website, I am one of many.
DeleteIve made a formal complaint. seeing that his cohort Cox recently lost 63 websites, I casually linked them together, LOL.
DeleteHahaha... Somethings going on because my anti-virus has suddenly blocked it as a malicious site
DeleteHawaiiCorruption
Previously this connection was pointed out by PMZH the connections with this hate group.
DeleteWhen you google "David Schied sovereign" this blog is on the first page results. Today is going to be a GREAT day!
GCongress> Michigan Activists Organizing around David Schied's Case; Support Needed.
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David Schied wrote:
> Hi Charles, Bob, and Other Devoted Patriots:
>
> I tried looking up Robert and Melinda on Google and Yahoo but could not
> locate anything except a 2007 court ruling against them. If anyone has
> their contact, I would appreciate knowing how to reach them. Perhaps we
> can help each other to battle the "miscarriage of justice" that
> continues to characterize our Michigan judiciary. More specifically, if
> there is anything I can do to help them I will; and in the meantime, I
> need to be put in touch with any GROUPS of people here in Michigan
> because I will very soon need "/witnesses/" to what occurs against me on
> May 12th in Detroit (MI Court of Appeals) when I confront this tribunal
> of judges as PLAINTIFF.http://constitutionalgov.us/pipermail/generalcongress_constitutionalgov.us/2009-April/000012.html
I have been having computer problems since I visited the .com site yesterday.
DeleteTILT!
ReplyDeleteHas anyone else had trouble getting to lawlessamerica.com site today? Looks like it's down.
Gross - "NOMINATE BILL WINDSOR ~ LAWLESS AMERICA to be the next CNN Hero Of The Year"
ReplyDeleteI see several familiar names on there, which are no longer with LA.
https://www.facebook.com/events/232740706853517/?ref=22
(BTW, I found the post on "Friends of Lawless America Revolutionary" FB page - https://www.facebook.com/FriendsOfLawlessAmericaRevolutionary)
Allie - I dig you, missy. There's not much I like better than a person who tries to correct their prior mistakes. :-)
DeleteRUT ROH!
ReplyDeleteBilly's flagship site is in the ditch!
LOL, made me spit out my coffee Sluggo ^5 good one
DeleteI spit out my tongue!!!! :)))
DeleteWell, dang. Y'all went off and left me. I was still on the last thread. Guess that will teach me to hit the refresh button more often.
ReplyDeleteI see y'all already know out the .com page is down.
lol, not quite NBTDT, I was sitting over there and left a comment for Susan....
DeleteThis comment has been removed by the author.
DeleteBut you didn't own that shit Oceans? sigh You were one of the few I judged as possibly having some integrity. Oh well.
DeleteThe site's back up.
DeleteAs a late-comer to this party, I was, at first, disappointed that I got left off Bill's list.
Then I noticed the list of names closed with the words “and anyone else.”
He likes me! Billy really likes this small town lawyer! Woohoo!
MrSpkr are you the same person that has been posting as Attorney?
DeleteOh Susan, how in the hell do you get that I don't own that? I left the message on this page so you would see it. You see I am getting tired of you. I stayed out of your many arguments and your endless posts attacking Yappy. I tried to let you adjust to just being able to speak your mind. I kept hoping you would dial it back to just opinions on what the subject of the blog post included instead.
DeleteI even avoided the blog for a few days after you hijacked it with your long rants.
I held out hope you would start to contribute useful information and interesting opinion to conversations. But it appears you prefer to just be annoying and pissy. It appears you want to continue to attack my dear friend Yappy instead of acting like, I don't know, maybe an adult and just moving on.
I do have integrity LOL, but there is no reason for you to know that, nor do I care if you do. It's why I gave you extra time to adjust and contribute.
I am just done with you.
@Oceans: How do you consider yourself owning a post you wrote as an anon?
DeleteI seriously don't get that.
@Julia: I am merely trying to clarify. I'm sorry that upsets you so much!
DeleteLOL - What are you talking about Susan, I left the comment as myself. I have only posted as anon accidentally a couple of times and then I let people know it was me.
DeleteGo look again- I left you a post as myself.
@Oceans: My mistake. I apologize. When I read your 6:46 pm post on THIS page, I thought you meant you were responsible for an earlier anon post.
DeleteI was really quite surprised that you would have done that. Thank you for correcting my mistake.
For the record, I am not "MrSpkr." (And I don't happen to be a "small town lawyer." Though I know, respect, and like several of those.)
DeleteI'm also not on Windsor's list (yet), and I'm entirely comfortable with that.
@Attorney: Thank you for clarifying. Sometimes people do change their screen names out of the blue.
DeleteMy prior knowledge of someone's posts informs each subsequent post, so I like to know who is speaking when possible. I'm not sure why that is so hard for many here to grasp.
Billy has been missing too....no post for about 24 hours... I horo his family lock up
ReplyDeleteAt some point we have to start a betting pool. Hosting-company snafu? Legal/correspondence attack by victim of Windsor defamation? Hacking? Bankruptcy? Windsor packing up and running for the hills, one step ahead of the law and/or his creditors?
DeleteI s'pose we'll have to wait several hours at least before starting to speculate in earnest.
Windsor missing too? Quick...someone turn on the Pie-in-the-Sky signal!
DeleteI'm betting complaints for defamation. A lot of the people named on Bill's send a retraction list were upset. I saw several posts threatening to complain if the names weren't taken down.
DeleteWho is keeping up with the pool?
If you're right, NBTDT, that almost certainly means that the LA blog was taken down... by one or more cease-and-desist letters. (Unless somebody actually managed to get a judge somewhere to issue an injunction against the site.)
DeleteRather ironic, no?
I'd bet were not looking at a court action here; rather, it's a failure of a server or an unpaid bill (no pun intended).
DeleteOops...were --> we're
DeleteAlso, if only I were wrong and lost that bet, I'd happily and ecstatically pay it, and I've got Scottish ancestry!
Would the ladies who trademarked the name Lawless America have the authority to order GoDaddy to take the site down?
Delete@ Attorney: "Rather ironic, no?" Yep. It's been bothering me for a while that Bill can say the things he says about judges, attorneys, elected officials, LE, and his loyal supporters, without consequence, then cry foul and threaten detractors because he doesn't like the things said about him.
Deleteet al: maybe it was the government that took the .com site down. Could be I've been reading too many conspiracy theories. But, Ellis County got Joey Dauben's sites taken down, what he wrote was not protected speech.
I thought all the Donations were paying for the site.
ReplyDeletemethinks it's not a billing issue...
ReplyDeletehttp://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=lawlessamerica.comStatus: Locked
Name Servers:
ns1.alcatrazmedia.com
ns2.alcatrazmedia.com
Creation date: 07 Dec 2007 18:31:40
Expiration date: 07 Dec 2013 18:31:00
Nope...the status "locked" means the domain name is non-transferable. The site is on a Godaddy server; still, this doesn't explain the re-direct to securenetpay.com
Deletelol...... LordBrannon Bridge posted toLawless America
ReplyDeletea few seconds ago
I told you not to use the Phrase "Cease and Desist" again and that I had the "little c" and TM'ed but you didn't listen did you??? and now look your dumbass site is down, awwwww poor guy, better luck next time
:) I saw that Brannon - also a good one!
DeleteJust posted:
ReplyDeleteLawless America - "LawlessAmerica.com is offline for a couple of hours as we make some changes at GoDaddy. Sorry for the inconvenience. I was tied up on the phone with GoDaddy (mainly on hold) and didn't get a notice posted. It seems that over 8,000 documents have been uploaded by the Nobodies who were filmed, and we went waaay over what GoDaddy wants."
(posted at https://www.facebook.com/lawlessamerica/posts/271560519644913)
Also:
Tammy Watson Cecil Because he is a PIG bastard who takes advantage of abused women ...that's why.
3:40pm (42 minutes ago)Reply
Lawless America LawlessAmerica.com is offline for a couple of hours as we make some changes at GoDaddy. Sorry for the inconvenience. I was tied up on the phone with GoDaddy (mainly on hold) and didn't get a notice posted. It seems that over 8,000 documents have been uploaded by the Nobodies who were filmed, and we went waaay over what GoDaddy wants.
14 minutes ago · 1Reply
Lawless America Tammy Watson Cecil, this is defamation. I help honest abused women and men.
Didn't he just use that lame excuse a few weeks ago? That GoDaddy was switching servers or something?
Deleteit is up again,
ReplyDeleteAnd once again, per item II above- um no Bill, you did not deliver those testimonies to Congress, you gave them a dvd with a link to your website and youtube...and your own speeches and video rantings.
ReplyDeleteI should send you a cease and desist about this.
ReplyDeleteLawless America shared a link.
Windsor just doesn't know when to stop.
10 minutes ago.
ROXANNE GRINAGE ACCUSES BILL WINDSOR OF COMMITTING CRIMES.
I think it's a crime to falsely accuse someone of committing crimes. For a look at the "fine" work of this woman, see www.hirelyrics.org
Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy.
ReplyDeleteSpawn ran across a connection between David Scheid & Bill a while back, we sort of researched him at the time and noticed he was worthy of more attention. But, it wasn't until I looked again that I realized Mr. Scheid has a lot more influence in what Bill is doing than is apparent at first glance.
Here are links to his 'they done me wrong story' and video manifesto that hits the Trifecta - it has it all, 'we the people' have the right to form Grand Juries to try government and judges for treason, formation of militia, "take back our country" and "reclaim our sovereign destiny". Oh, yeah, he's all over the RICO violations too.
http://davidschiedsaga.blogspot.com/
http://www.powercorruptsagain.com/
Diving back in to see what else I can dig up...........
@NBTDT you are brave, to dive back in. Good work with the links and connections.
DeleteOH MY GOD there it is! Willy is connected to Scheid, who has a connection to...wait for it, CHARLES MANSON! Nbwhatever...quick, get to the link. You were right all along. Willy is the same as Charles Manson! You were right you were right you were right you were right!!!!
ReplyDeleteHey Anon 9:35, if Nbwhatever had owned her shit I would have graciously put it behind me. But she didn't own her shit. No one here, ever owns their shit, yet they demand that others do. It's like some kind of alternate universe and all you can do is have fun with it!
Delete@ Anon: yes, she certainly is that. She probably forgot to take that red pill, like Roo said. She's also probably jealous, while David & Bill are schooling Supreme Court Judges in the law, Susan is stuck here schooling an attorney that is just amusing himself on a meaningless, but humorous, blog.
DeleteShe's probably also upset that she's being forced to face the fact her hero doesn't have an original thought in his head. All that movie stuff, and filming 'victims' of corruption? Not his idea. Nope. You guessed it, David's idea. He started discussing production of a documentary and posting 'victim' videos as early as 2011. I'm trying to nail down a date.
See Nbwhatever, if you had been around two years ago, you would have KNOWN all of this. It was well known at the time by anyone near Willy. He started out in the Tea Party. When he started LA, he got in touch with nearly every activist group out there and many of them sent reps to LA. They all exchanged ideas, duh.
DeleteYes dear, we all KNOW that Willy is merely playing Monkey see Monkey do. In many cases he is repeating things that were done by far bigger groups and which got NO results.
But I never told anyone here about this because I was led to believe everyone here already knows everything there is to know. I didn't want to tell you what was OBVIOUS from the beginning about Willy. And now here you are uncovering this old news like you've found the holy grail. I'm not upset about anything, I am LMAO!
Yes Susan dear, that's why you ran around this blog for a month begging for links. You've been wrong countless times. But you know it all? Let me guess. You never ever lie either.
Delete
ReplyDeleteSusan
ReplyDeleteClick here Susan
For those wondering about my avoidance of discussion with certain people, this explains it perfectly.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfOWbyk0TPo
I love the "I knew all along but I never said anything". BLOCK. Bob
ReplyDelete@ Bob: ditto. You know that character on SNL that brags? Can't think of her name; if someone says they swam the English Channel, she says she swam the Atlantic and the Pacific. With one arm tied behind her back. Well, that ain't us. But, if Bill, et al had been on our radar and we'd have cared about a connection, we'd have known it.
DeleteTwo years ago we were having a lot more fun with the Joey Dauben saga. And if Joey were still in business, we probably wouldn't be paying this much attention to Bill.
DeleteOh, here's a good one - it explains the symptom, then shows an example.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9jRDHGabp8
OK, enough of that, let's lighten up...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pWCqAdf91M
he shouldn't play in the big league!!!
ReplyDeleteSo, Mr. Schied files a criminal complaint against Judge Kahlil. Then, he goes to sit in her court room to listen to a friends case, with 4 other "court watchers". The Judge wants to know the names of the people in the court room, Mr. Schied refuses to identify himself. He was cited with contempt of court, handcuffed and put in the jail. The other 4 told their names and didn't go to jail.
ReplyDeleteSchield cried foul, says he was jailed in retaliation for the charges he filed against the judge. He asked for volunteers to file a misconduct complaint against the Judge.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9rlqPec86z0J:michigan.constitutionalgov.us/Cases/DavidSchiedQW/NewerDocuments/Exhib4CertNV2USDOE4Eand4F.pdf+&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a
http://heros-heroines.blogspot.com/2012/06/michigan-court-watcher-david-schied.html
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=116285
This group, Among the wolves is screen shot happy. I take it they are Pro pie? Kind of hard to know who is who, when they fraction off into groups. (Name is kind of fitting though, based on what they write. Attackers)
ReplyDeletehttps://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=107516892772390&set=a.107516652772414.1073741828.100005422390797&type=1&theater
yeah they are very heavy on the pie. They run their site just like Bill runs his
DeleteI saw the blog posted here, and now they have this new ^^^FB. Funny how the more people start voicing their disgust with Pie, more pages pop up to discredit his victims.
Deletereport the page it should be down, very soon....
Deletethat is a PMA person
http://goanimate.com/videos/0Vc3tGfRNxTg/1 this I made you the Wolve BS enjoy and share it
DeleteSusan was around during the Reagan
ReplyDeleteEra, and knows it all - her latest updates
on the Tea Party, linking in
Bill, with the tunes;
Get the Government off Bill's back, along
with Bill's capo's who do his bidding.
Susan brings up she knows it all from times
past, ancient history, and chides some as
just not being up to speed.
Susan is a " know if all".
So, what does she have to say on what is going
to be Bill's future in July( 2013),
from Ms reputed crystal clear know it all,
her latest .. ya ya
Here's an interesting story, from a link posted on LA's MI page. A blogger went to jail for speech not protected, he threatened and intimidated a judge and a therapist involved in his custody case. The blogger and his supporters claims his speech was protected. He was angry because he feels he lost custody of his kid for absolutely no reason, only stated his opinion and requested docs he was entitled to as pro se litigant. The state's case is the last link - pretty convincing re: why his lost custody and why blogger is in jail.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/imprisoned-blogger-wants-charges-over-online-comments-about-judge-thrown-out
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/archive/index.php/t-382862.html?s=857628a82889da27d506c6cc980c115e
http://www.danhelpskids.com/Judge%20James%20D%20Humphrey.html
http://www.dadsfamilycourtexperience.com/Appellee%27s%20Response.pdf
I read that already. I think that if this guy wins then it is a case for many to try to stand on when it comes to cases where people are attacking others. I know you have first amendment rights but to what extent? I suppose you can say whatever you want about anyone and a third party will have to figure out the truth on their own. So, if were saying that is how it is going to be then who cares about libel and slander. But I think intimidation and slander and libel are completely different but people like bill lump them together at times. You can have a death threat that has nothing to do with people who are against your ideologies. At the same time Just because you voice your stance that is not Bills Stance wherever you want to is not stalking either. Can you imagine if people like Rush or Hannity were to come out and say no having disputes on my website. I believe Bill has gone way over he boundaries with this Cease and Desist crap especially when he is the host of a public community.
Delete@ Sean: did you read the State's brief? Based on the State's view and therapist reports, it appears the guy may have anger management issues. The conviction has nothing to do with a difference in ideology.
DeleteJoey Dauben was found guilty for exactly the same thing in TX, he posted a guy's address and suggested someone should hurt the man. Joey's supporters presented the same argument, his speech was protected under the 1st amendment.
Here's the thing, reasonable people can agree to disagree, them move on. We live in a society that values the 1st & 2nd amendments equally. We have to find and maintain balance to protect the welfare of others when unreasonable people disagree and exercise their rights under either amendment. Every freedom comes with responsibility.
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Delete" I think that if this guy wins then it is a case for many to try to stand on when it comes to cases where people are attacking others."
The guy defamed a judge. It was a civil offense. He is judgment proof so fear of a civil suit did not deter him. The state misapplied a criminal intimidation law to his actions. They guy is now in jail for five years for defamation, which in this country, is NOT a criminal offense.
If Indiana and the US Supreme Court uphold the conviction, our country will have essentially criminalized defamation.
So if the guy LOSES his appeal, people are going to start going to jail for defamation. If the guy wins his appeal, no one will attempt to pull this bullshit again.
“But I think intimidation and slander and libel are completely different...”
This is correct. Intimidation is criminal, defamation is civil.
“The conviction has nothing to do with a difference in ideology.”
The opinions voiced by First Amendment experts have so far been unanimous that the conviction was the result of an improper and unconstitutional interpretation of a criminal law.
The simple fact is that a defamation victim has no recourse other than a civil suit. That fact does not change, when a JUDGE is the defamation victim.
Susan said: "The opinions voiced by First Amendment experts have so far been unanimous that the conviction was the result of an improper and unconstitutional interpretation of a criminal law."
DeleteI say: The opinion of the judge and jury in that particular trial, you know the ones that actually heard all of the evidence for both sides, that matters more than the opinions voiced by First Amendment experts.
Just who are the First Amendment experts voicing opinion in this case?
@Anon: I don't usually answer anons.
DeleteGotta love that dodge, "I don't usually answer anons." Yeah, but she'll respond to tell you she's not responding. She doesn't answer because 1) she doesn't know the answer or 2) she's embarrassed, or will be, by the answer. Too bad, I'd like to know who those experts are too.
DeleteAlso too bad Susan didn't spend more time studying criminal law. Maybe she could have schooled us on what criminal laws were applied in this case, since the guy was actually convicted of intimidation, which Susan agrees is a criminal act.
"This is correct. Intimidation is criminal, defamation is civil."
Nbwhatever, I don't mind explaining to an anon that has asked me a specific, legitimate question, that I won't be answering because she is anon. For all I know it's the person's first time here, so why shouldn't I let them know why I am ignoring them?
DeleteNow since YOU have asked who the experts are, I will be happy to answer:
The following people and organizations signed an amicus brief filed in the Indiana Supreme Court, arguing that the defendant’s First Amendment rights were violated: Eagle Forum, the Hoosier State Press Association Foundation, the Indianapolis Star, the Indiana Association Of Scholars, the Indiana Coalition for Open Government, the James Madison Center for Free Speech, Nuvo (Indy’s Alternative Voice), and Indiana Professors of journalism or public policy James W. Brown, Anthony Fargo, Sheila S. Kennedy, and Professor of Law Eugene Volokh.
I would be happy to school you on the criminal law that was MISAPPLIED in this case. Is it your contention that all convictions are consistent with the law? Direct me to the part that you don't understand, I'll dumb down my speech as much as possible so you don't feel I'm being condescending, and we'll see if I can help you understand.
I'll direct you to the evidence presented in the criminal case. The man is either guilty of breaking a criminal law or he's not. I would like to hear your explanation for how the judge and jury that heard the State's case erred in not acquitting him.
DeleteNbwhatever, before I bother trying to explain this to you, I'd like to see you, for ONCE, own your shit.
DeleteIn reference to the fact that I was not going to provide the list of FA experts for the anon you said: She doesn't answer because 1) she doesn't know the answer or 2) she's embarrassed, or will be, by the answer. Too bad, I'd like to know who those experts are too.
It should be clear now that 1) I do know the answer (can I get a sticker for that?) and 2) The answer is not the least bit embarrassing to me.
No sticker, you are all blow, no go. And, you should be embarrassed. You just copied and pasted names of "experts" and went along with an opinion you know nothing about, just because of who said it.
DeleteI have never failed once to own my sh*t, I read the facts of the case. You obviously have not. A crime, no several crimes appear to have been committed. The man was tried and convicted. In my opinion, this man is doing his dead level best to avoid responsibility for his behavior and his crimes by turning this into a FA issue.
We are back to the original argument, remember - when you called me 'silly'? "Fighting words" are still not protected speech. And, I still own it. Now, STFU and go study criminal law.
@Nbwhatever:
DeleteMan you REALLY had to stretch to find a way to deal with my answer didn't you?
You simply CAN NOT bring yourself to own your shit. You said I wasn't listing the experts because I didn't know who they were or because I would be embarrassed to answer. Neither of those statements were true. I am VERY familiar with the case and the briefs that have been filed. And instead of owning that, you just make up a new, completely unsubstantiated accusation.
"In my opinion, this man is doing his dead level best to avoid responsibility for his behavior and his crimes by turning this into a FA issue."
You sound so much like Willy. In YOUR opinion, which you pulled out of your ass because you have no understanding of the legal question, lol, the conviction is valid. You don't even know what the ISSUE is here. When the Indiana Supreme Court or the US Supreme Court reverses the lower courts, will you admit you were wrong will you stick to your uneducated opinion regardless?
I showed you clear evidence that I never claimed speech that invites violence is legal. In fact, I made it a point to say that the speech is protected UNLESS it promotes violence or lawlessness. You conveniently decided to ignore that post and the undeniable proof that you said something about me that was wrong.
You have failed to own your shit twice in three days now.
Deflect and attack. Still no facts.
DeleteThis is a funny comment from Pie Man about his perception of FB, and LA not being a public forum. Ok, um, ya...
ReplyDelete"Lawless America This is not and never has been a public forum. The statutes make it clear that stalking and harassment is with unwanted contact. I have published that I don't want any contact. I set the rules here. Now, if this is Sean Boushie, please send me one and only one email to nobodies@att.net and acknowledge that this is your posting and that you are the same person who emailed a cease and desist to me and mailed one to my wife and son. Please acknowledge the variety of emails and posts from you over the last year or so. The judge would like to see this. And are you available to speak with the judge by phone on Monday?"
Too funny. There's that 'grap a switch and come here so I can spank you' speech again.
Delete@ Tiny: Tell him yeah, you can speak to the judge on Monday. Tell him to post the Judge's phone number and a time. Then we can all call in and have a group conference call with the Judge!
And are you available to speak with the judge by phone on Monday?
DeleteI agree, Tiny. Call his bluff and tell him you'd LOVE to have a phone call with him and Judge Thrash...oh yah...it BETTER be Thrash or Billy will be in contempt of a federal court order.
Ninja were did you find that lol
DeleteSean, it's a comment under his post asking for the retractions on the LA FB page.
DeleteCall his bluff lie!! Getting my popcorn ready. Post that judges phone number Billy, because we all know judges LOVE to do legal business over the phone. Call him, call him!
DeleteI agree with Allie, normally I would say ignore the idiot, but in this case, the judge isn't the one who would want to investigate or discuss anything.
DeletePretty sure the local po po are sick to death of the pie farts he leaves in the station too.
He is really becoming more stupid as time goes on. Maybe they should up his meds.
LOL he says he will post it all in due time. LMAO
DeleteAnita P Ness He is just blowing hot air. He's been claiming he filed charges for over a year & nothing has ever happened!!! He wants the same judges he blast to help him continue his scam. Good luck with that!!
(These are comments under the retraction post too)
Lawless America Anita P. Ness, cease and desist. You are a liar and a libeler. I have copies of police reports and court filings. I'llm publish them all in due time.
LOL, Yeah I saw that Ninja, and was going to copy it, but the post disappeared. Glad you caught it for us.
DeleteI think he must be eating some bad pies lately- it's affecting his brain. Saying FB isn't a public posting is pretty silly. He could change his settings to keep all of us out unless we are already members, but then he would lose most of his viewers. LOL, and of course there are those many id's that have already friended LA that he hasn't found yet. So there is no way to really shut us out.
It's pretty funny he blocks id's. It's not hard to come up with another FB identity LMAO.
I'm looking at my new Mickey Mouse watch & DUE is not on it!
DeleteWtf?
I've been had:/
Will y'all just call me when it's DUE time? & is that an o'clock? p.m.? Or a.m.?
Ask Susan! She'll know! Susan knows everything!
Isn't fire in the theather an exception to free speech, isn't
ReplyDeletesppech that induces fraud, with damages an
exception, potentially actionable, civilly, and criminally.
Does not the FTC bring actions over
speech issues that cross some lines,
How about Bill's speech on
Maid of the Mist, was that free to him...?
How much has it cost him, Don't to
include all his costs for attorneys..
Really, was it cost free.
Her, do some have a strange notion
of the word free .
Does Bill want something free from you ?
ReplyDeleteIs your time free..?
How much of your time, has
Bill caused to be consumed. If not
wasted ?
Really, how do you value your time.
Why are you wasting it, fretting all
about Mr Nobody, Bill ..?
Why..?
Why waste a second of your time on
a self admitted Nobody, Bill ?
Isn't your time more precious, than that ?
Y'all should listen to this guy. I mean really LISTEN. Turn off the TV, lock the kids outside, put the phone on silent - give him your undivided attention.
ReplyDeleteBill posted this video about 6 hrs ago, this is what he is supporting. Mr. Roland has written a constitution, he has formed, is recruiting and musters a malitia. His idea is to replace every member of the government in order to implement his constitution. As regards to "patriots", if anyone hears a "bright shiny idea", they should read his constitution, if the idea isn't in there, it's probably not a good idea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rviuXQ-5NSY&feature=youtu.be
ooops - sorry, militia
DeleteYea I listened to him this morning. The guy who bill admits is advising him. It's scary because unlike bill, he is smart, controlled and uses a kernel of truth in his statements. He could be very dangerous
DeleteIt's clear you've not spent any time learning how to write in English properly.
ReplyDeleteHas Sluggo got 3rd prize as a reputed pedantic, who has wasted
ReplyDeletemore time than Susan' how much time that he knows more
on Mr Nobody.
Waaaaaah, if he keeps it up, he will brag he is a somebody.
He spends months outing he is a somebody.
Ha ha, he proved he is a nobody, duly entitled
to be an ad hoc member in Mr Nobody's crazy outfit.
Is Susan still here clamoring for attention?
ReplyDeleteSusan makes me wanna leave this blog. True story.
DeleteSo you drank the Kool Aide Allie. I spent my time trying to tell you how to get an injunction against Willy. I have done NOTHING to you at all.
DeleteSome of the people here wrote truly scathing things about you when you were with Billy. Very personal, nasty things. They decided that your body language on film meant you were lying when those very same body language signals can mean you are nervous. They made you out to be Satan, whether there was any evidence of that or not, because they are haters and that's what they do.
As soon as you turned on Willy and they saw the chance to get as much info from you as possible, they started kissing your ass as if you are their best friend. And you can't SEE that?
You really seem to be very gullible to any game a person wants to run on you. You have learned nothing about being used from your experience with Willy.
Finally, you don't have to leave the blog because I am here. No one forces you to look at my posts do they? Get a grip. Your fake friends are all here giving you fake props as necessary, so just relax and limit your reading to those posts.
I know what you mean Allie. Just skip on past her posts, it works.
DeleteShe could just be jealous because there are so many posters here, and her little blog has 2 members and 1 comment if I remember. Oh, and that one comment was by Sue Ellen to boot.
DeleteSo many insults about us here at the clubhouse by Susan too. And she wonders why no one her likes her.
@ Allie: Yep, we were critical of you before you left LA. And I was critical and mistrusting of you after you left LA.
DeleteHowever, you won my respect by owning your sh*t in your note to Bill after Allie Gate, then moving on to do the right thing. For the record, Gingersnap and several others were always on your side and pulling for you, even in private conversation.
And Brannon is right, no a$$ kissing going on here, it's totally not necessary.
"Critical"? People here had her sleeping with Willy. People here became body language experts and insisted she was LYING on her video, because they didn't want to allow for the possibility that she was just nervous. If that's critical I wonder what your idea of HATING is.
DeleteAllie "won your respect" because she had information you wanted. It was sickening to watch people trying to KISS HER ASS for information, knowing what they had been saying about her.
It's good to know there ARE a few people here that have the decency to refrain from passing judgment on things they know nothing about. But they are a very tiny minority and THEY were not the ones that KISSED ALLIE'S ASS when they thought she might share some info with them.
But hey, if Allie hasn't yet learned to recognize the signs that she's being used, pffft, so be it!
Susan, shut up. You are just spamming the blog at this point and you are about to join Webby in the dunce corner.
DeleteAllie is a big girl, she doesn't need people to explain who she should be friends with. She has read everything on this board, good bad and otherwise towards her. She made a mistake and has owned up to it and is now trying to make amends. I'm not trying to "kiss her ass" for info. In fact, if she decided to ignore me completely for here on out it wont change the fact that I am a huge Allie fan.....I might even be a groupie at this point. We all makes mistakes in life, that's nothing new, its when we learn from it and try and make amends for it that we are really growing as human beings.
@Allie? Feel ya on the "makes me not wanna read here" vibe because of Susan.
DeleteMe too.
She's aiming for just that. Her backflips & twirls over here at Ginger's is the most attention she obviously ever receives.
& @Allie, I hope you realize that we did give credit where it was due, even when you were in full pie mode. I, personally think you've been a big person. I dunno if I could have "owned" my shit, with as much grace as you have done. I personally apologized for my snarky & tacky jabs at you & I meant it. I can't recall if I did it publicly, so here it is, for Susan's benefit & yours again~
@Ginger: Susan, shut up. You are just spamming the blog at this point and you are about to join Webby in the dunce corner.
DeleteIf you want to ban me do it. I thought you were smarter than that, but by all means, if you think that is the best way to deal with me, DO IT!
"Allie is a big girl, she doesn't need people to explain who she should be friends with."
Well then why are you and yours so concerned about my post to her?
I'm concerned about all the bandwidth you are stealing from me, and making other people waste parts of their lives reading your never ending drivel.
Delete@Ginger: I think if you read VERY carefully, you'll see that for every one post I write, several people generally respond with mindless attacks and links I never even look at. Those people could easily ignore me and save your bandwidth. I don't know how I could MAKE anyone waste their lives reading anything. They are grown ups but they want Daddy to protect them from someone they can't handle. Why is it so hard for them to just IGNORE me if they don't want to read?
DeleteThere are a number of anons on here that post nonsensical stuff that is the equivalent of spam.
In all seriousness, It may be hard to take, but intelligent people generally SEEK OUT other views. Intelligent people LIKE to have to think about what they said and maybe, once in a while, realize they were wrong, admit to it, and LEARN something.
STUPID people, will go to any length to keep from hearing the truth if it means they have to face the fact that they were wrong about something. That's why they remain stupid.
And finally, you all are getting my "Susan Special". I haven't acted this way on a forum for many years, but when people ask for it, I am happy to serve it up. And nearly everyone here has asked for it.
^^^ Wasted bandwidth. Too childish to ignore me, to cowardly to use a name. Waste.
DeleteYou don't use your name. You use Susan Harbison. Why does it matter if it's Anon, Anon, Anon, Petunia, Spawn, Sluggo, NBTDT, or whattheshitever? Just so you can keep track? As swift as you blow to be, you ought to be able to easily identify anyone addressing you, by a mere keystroke.
DeleteLike Ginger said, you are waste of good bandwidth. You're just pissy NO one wants to play with you on your in your own yard/blog, so you dragass over here.
You are our Eddie Haskell. Every little group has one.
Bless your little heart.
*sorry for typos* "with you in your own yard/blog...."
Delete"You are our Eddie Haskell." Aww, thanks Petunia, I feel like I'm really part of the Joeys now!
DeleteLooks like Susan has nothing better to do with her life. Not welcome here, not welcome there, not welcome anywhere.
DeleteYep, Sus, as much as Eddie ever was....
DeleteI dunno - I think she's worse than Eddie. Eddie at least had a sweet side. False as it was, he didn't pick fights with everybody. He knew when and how to get along with people. She's worse than Webb too. Webb really only poked at yappy & some times Gingersnap. Susan attacks everything that moves. If I had to choose between reading an ignorant, nonsensical post by an Anon or anything written by Susan - I'd pick the Anon every time.
DeleteThere is just absolutely no excuse or justification for the volume and intensity of hostility that Susan spews.
This is why I haven't been posting much. I Don't need the constant insults and critiques by her bias and overbearing opinions. She sucked the fun out of this.
Delete@ Ninja: yeah, but that's what she's trying to do. So don't let her. We love you no matter what she says. Did you see what she said to Gingersnap?
Delete"you'll see that for every one post I write, several people generally respond with mindless attacks"
She's trying to draw fire and/or shut people down. She's not trying to share ideas. She has a hidden agenda and she is sabotaging through intimidation - this is your basic narcissistic bully. Bing that sh*t. Just don't play the game.
Grandiosity
DeleteWhat is grandiosity?
Grandiosity occurs when a person has an inflated self-esteem, believe they have special powers, spiritual connections, or religious relationships.38
When grandiosity is severe, the person may be delusional about his or her capabilities.20
What does it feel like to be grandiose?
A grandiose individual feels unrealistically powerful, important, and invincible. These beliefs are frequently accompanied by feelings of euphoria and intense pleasure. Nothing seems impossible and every problem has a solution.
The person may feel an urgent need to initiate projects or activities.
How can I recognize this symptom?
To others, the person's behavior seems pompous, boastful, and exaggerated. Observers may perceive the grandiose individual to be conceited and condescending.
The person's speedy pursuit of dreams, goals, and projects may seem impulsive.
Set goals and initiated plans may be unrealistic.29
How does grandiosity impact life?
Bipolar disorder symptoms affect all aspects of life. A grandiose person may appear to be rude and boastful. Naturally, this makes it difficult to make new friends and current relationships are strained.
When a person is grandiose at work, they may find it difficult to be productive. Grandiosity is frequently accompanied by decreased judgment.
For example, a person may believe they have special insight that their employer does not have. The person may feel obliged to share their break-through knowledge with their employer and disagree with management decisions. The felt passion and urgency lead to inappropriate arguments.
The fallout of grandiose behavior, especially when compounded with other symptoms of bipolar disorder, can be devastating. The high risk behavior, inflated self-esteem, and delusions may lead to job loss, expulsion from school, and terminated relationships.
Sometimes, the pursuit of unrealistic ideas involves financial investment. The person may suffer significant financial losses.8
Roget's II: Thesaurus defines grandiosity as "boastful self-importance or display" and offers the words "ostentation," "pomposity" and "pretension" to further illustrate this definition. In short, it is an exaggerated sense of one's importance, power, knowledge or identity. It often has religious overtones. The term "grandiosity" is used to describe the larger-than-life feelings of superiority often experienced by those in a manic episode.
Ninja I think what you mean is that usually you just spew whatever nonsense you want on here and no one calls you on it. I'm sure it IS much more FUN making up facts as you go along. Having someone ask you be responsible for the things you say, is a real drag isn't it?
Delete@Nbwhatever; "There is just absolutely no excuse or justification for the volume and intensity of hostility that Susan spews." You can say that all you want...that won't make it true.
Narcissism
DeleteThe goal: See your and others' patterns clearly. Clarity is a strong first step toward being able to make changes for the better.
Sign #1: Unilateral listening.
What I want is all that matters. When we make decisions together, what you want, your concerns, your feelings..these are mere whispers, inconveniences and irrelevancies. When we discuss issues, my opinions are right. Yours are wrong or else of minimal importance. If you expect to have input, you are undermining me.
Instead of listening in order to be responsive, narcissistic listening listens to dismiss, negate, ignore, minimize, denigrate or otherwise render irrelevant other people’s concerns. One specific indicator: frequent responses that begin with "But....", which is linguistically a backspace-delete key.
Score: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
SIgn #2 It’s all about me.
I know more, I know better, I’m more interesting, When we talk, it’s mostly about me. In conversations, I take up most of the air time. Maybe that's why people say I suck up all the air in a room.
When I want something, I need to have it. Never mind how you feel about it; it’s all about me. I’m big and important and you are merely also here, mostly to do things for me, like a third arm.
Narcissistic people are sometimes, and even often, generous. The difficulty with trusting a narcissist to take actions that are sympathetic to your interests comes at the times when what they want is contrary to what someone else wants. Odds are that at these times they will act in a manner that is selfish, that is, responsive only to their own concerns.
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DeleteSign #3: The rules don’t apply to me.
I can have affairs, cut into a line where others are waiting, cheat on my taxes, and ignore rules that get in the way of my doing what I want.. Rules are for other people to follow.
Narcissists suffer from what I call Tall Man (or Woman) Syndrome. They experience themselves as above others, so the rules don't apply to them.
Score: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Sign #4: Your concerns are really criticisms of me, and I hate being criticized.
If you insist on my listening and taking your concerns seriously I’m likely to get mad. Criticism hurts. I can criticize others, and often do, but if you criticize me you’re hurting my feelings so I’ll hurt you back.
Narcissists paradoxically manifest an inflated idea of their own importance, yet are quick to feel deflated by negative feedback.
In addition, because they think everything is about them, they hear others’ attempts to talk about personal feelings as veiled criticisms of themselves. Taking others' concerns as personal criticism is called personalizing. E.g., If she says "I'm feeling lonely," her narcissistic friend will hear, "You don't spend enough time with me."
Score: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Sign #5: When things go wrong between us, it’s always your fault.
I can’t be expected to apologize or to admit blame. I’m above others and above reproach. You shouldn’t have… . Don’t threaten me with expecting me to say how I’ve contributed to a problem or I’ll get mad at you.
Unwillingness to take responsibility for mistakes goes hand-in-hand with quickness to blame. This trait may come from confusing the part with the whole. If I've done one thing that's not right, then I must be all bad. That's also all-or-nothing thinking.
Score: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Sign #6: If I’m angry, it’s your fault.
You made me mad. You didn’t listen to me. You criticized me. You’re trying to control me. Your view is wrong. So you need to apologize, not me.
"II’s never my fault if things didn’t go well. I’m not responsible for the problem. Someone else is. I’m not responsible either for my anger. If I’m mad that’s your fault."
Score: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Possible score for S.H.: 40 to 60 would indicate severe problems with narcissism. With this understanding of why your relationships become distressed, hopefully you will commit yourself to some serious personal growth.
Susan HarbisonMarch 9, 2013 at 10:49 PM
DeleteNinja I think what you mean is that usually you just spew whatever nonsense you want on here and no one calls you on it. I'm sure it IS much more FUN making up facts as you go along. Having someone ask you be responsible for the things you say, is a real drag isn't it?
@Nbwhatever; "There is just absolutely no excuse or justification for the volume and intensity of hostility that Susan spews." You can say that all you want...that won't make it true.
The AHA moment. Point Proven
Thanks NBTDT. I just knew she would respond, even though I wasn't addressing her.
DeleteAnon 10:50 (all three posts) Spot on
@ Anon: Bravo!!!
DeleteFirst, I read this blog daily for months before Billy and I parted ways. I saw the comments. And I don't give a shit.
DeleteSecondly, yes I know you sent me instructions to get an injunction on Bill. I just didn't reply because it made absolutely no sense and I don't know or trust you.
Thirdly, intelligence is a subject that maybe you shouldn't talk about. It just showcases your lack of it.
Lastly, I am well aware some have kissed my ass. Some have not. Some have apologized. I have apologized. And we moved on. See, that's what intelligent people do. There is no secret I dislike some here. So what. I also love some here. And those I dislike, don't give a shit either. We overlook it for the greater good of making fun of windbag.
Ps....Ninja has more intelligence in one hand than in all your smart ass I'm better than you posts put together. No one cares. Really.
Anon @ 10:50,
DeleteIMHO, it's gob-smacking and ironic you would post a complete article from another source without ANY citation or reference to make your point. I wonder, who else does this on a routine basis? Oh...yah...William M. Windsor,Piewright.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/resolution-not-conflict/201210/are-you-narcissist-6-sure-signs-narcissism
I did not lay claim nor imply i was the writer to the information and it is a mere oversight forgetting to post the reference. Thank you for adding 1 of them, I referenced 3.
Delete@Sluggo? What do you mean? I understood it was a reference from other sites. You'd rather challenge this than dealing with the fact your friend is a vicious condescending bitch who attacks for no reason other than to attack their character?
Delete@Allie: "Secondly, yes I know you sent me instructions to get an injunction on Bill. I just didn't reply because it made absolutely no sense and I don't know or trust you."
DeleteAnd there I was, caring whether you got your child taken away from you, even though I don't know or trust you. In fact, you have admitted that you are a liar and in my experience, liars might apologize when caught, but they remain liars.
I did take quite a bit of my time trying to dumb it down for you. I gave you step by step instructions. You didn't give me the courtesy of reply much less thank me.
If you were so hostile towards me and you think Ninja is so much smarter than I, why didn't you just ask Ninja how to do it? Ninja just may be a freaking genius too, let's see what she said about you:
NinjaFebruary 13, 2013 at 10:49 PM
You know what Allie, you are a total ass kissing troll. I hope the court bitch slaps you ass hard. You have been a mean nasty twat waffle to numerous people, and I am sure you are the reason several mothers were kicked to the curb. You have serious mental issues and based upon your court records, You look like a complete vengeful liar.
NinjaFebruary 14, 2013 at 7:52 PM
My penny is on Glen G
Allies head is too far up her ass (and her pie daddy's) She doesn't care about her child, it's herself she cares about, thus the constant court fuckery. People that truly care about their kids don't go purposely against court orders.
NinjaFebruary 17, 2013 at 1:39 PM
Ah don't give Allie that much credit. She's a liar too, and she is snowed under all that pie filling. What she did and said about others, well, there is no going back.
Yes, Ninja is clearly a genius! No wait, her HAND is a genius!
In any case as I said before, one man's trash is another man's treasure and to each her own! Pffffft.
@Sluggo: Damn I had to look up "alliterative" and I STILL don't understand it. You talk good English dude! I guess that is the pedantic part of you! And stop wasting time, you are upsetting some anon!
ReplyDeleteLMAO - ha ha I know what is without looking it up. It's a tongue twister!
DeleteJ.T.P.S.O.
Can someone please give Anon 1:53 a sticker? She knew a big word that I didn't know and she clearly wants some credit for that. A smiley face sticker ought to do it. Children like to show those when they get home to mommy. And you earned it Anon, you are really, really smart!
DeleteAhhh I am so touched. Some paranoid nut visitor to my blog made up a conspiracy theory starring me!
ReplyDelete"I knew that the whole time that this blog was a likely conduit to the eyes of agents who are seeking to list and categorize dissidents for neutrilization/elimination."
And that's why he's been leaving his links to conspiracy theories on my site. MY mistake! Here I thought the whole time he was talking to me but it turns out, he was trying to educate the Secret service viewers of my blog--or so he claims. A conspiracy theory all about me! I'm so touched really, I think I'll go write an acceptance speech.
That's when you know you are having an impact when conspiracy nutcases come after you
DeleteBTW, since we have it on such good authority, please leave me your requests for the FBI, secret service and easter bunny and I will make sure it gets known to them. (yeah, as if the only reason any of them would care about me was for some other reason that compile tiny insignificant facts they already know about you know who.)
DeleteLOL, you forgot the Tooth Fairy!
DeleteI really love your writing by the way. You have a wonderful wit and style.
Well thank you again! Yes, and the tooth fairy.
Delete<3 lawlessnomore.
DeleteThey're dropping like flies on the LA FB - down over 2,000 Likes since last night.
ReplyDelete-------------------------------
https://www.facebook.com/lawlessamerica/likes
No, Sluggo is upset, he is trolling, in
ReplyDeletehis oxymoronic alliterations.
Why is Bill wasting so many people's
time in the USA ?
For a big nobody, he sure gamed so
many.
Say, what is it about Bill
and his gaming Roger Roots, who
he calls the " professor".
Weird .
I hoped I would receive an email from Dad in Heaven saying how much he loved it! ... One thing is for sure, none of us had ever been to a "funeral" like that before, .... Message Page on the web site, please just email me at bill@billwindsor.com
ReplyDeleteSusan sounds upset with Alex last name anonymous.
ReplyDeleteclick here to listen