Wow what a day. At least 60 lemmings were ordered to move up front and cram in around Bill so they could fill up half of of the 135 occupancy room at the Crown Plaza in Arlington Va. After spending all morning distributing their packets and CD to trash cans all across the Nation's Capitol, they came back in for the "Phil Donahue style" show. One of the participants was the infamous Rik Little who Bill said was banned from Lawless America for his violent anti-female sentiments.
The Liar in Chief called the meeting to order, and after looking over all the pies he had eaten and the new personal information forms and waivers he now had on his lemmings, he triumphantly proclaimed "Mission Accomplished". Even though there was not even one Somebody in the spacious 135 occupancy room, Bill decided to address them anyway notifying them that they are the problem. He was then, apparently, served some pie he doesn't like....a lawsuit against him and his minions.
The hero worship then commenced as Bill put on some military fatigues on a homeless man and had him come in and present Bill with a Presidential Service award. You know, the same one anyone can buy for $4.75 a piece. He almost sent Mary B and Paula into cardiac arrest when he also mentioned that he may be in the running for the publisher's clearing house grand prize. And if that wasn't enough, he said that he just received an email from a rich exiled Nigerian banker who wants to invest his $10 million in assets into the Lawless America account, he just needed a lemming to send him their personal bank information to make the transfer.
Today, the remaining 15 of them plan to march on the Washington Post en masse to demand that the editor-in-chief give them an audience. Once this fails, they will all head back home having failed in every single category. But thats not going to stop Billy as he plans to start working on his next solution, bringing criminal charges against everyone. As he promised yesterday he will never stop filming (code from scamming), so until someone stops him (and no i'm not calling for violence), many future victims await this Liar in Chief.
So, I did have a Blogtalkradio, it's disabled though
ReplyDeletehow much do those things cost?
Deleteyou can do a free one, that you can I think only get like 5 or 6 live callers, or you can do $39 and get Includes:
DeleteFirst month is free
2 Hour Show per Day, 50 live callers, Advanced Radio Studio, Prime-time Scheduling, Host with Skype, Upload/Edit/Replace Shows, Unlimited Uploads, and Priority Support
I wish they had something in between the two. I don't want, or want anyone else, to actually spend some real money on it but we would probably need more than 5 listeners.
DeleteI think there may be able to be more, but I think it's just that there can be only 5 Live callers, I think you can have up to 12 or so on the line total, and then one hangs up another comes on
DeleteOk I went to read. 30 min show allows for 5 continual callers at one time (free option), once one hangs up the next can call in.
DeleteThe 2 hour option allows for 50 continuous callers, etc at $39 BUT they do allow 1 free 2 hour trial with this package. So we could sign up for this option.
How many people would want to call in?
sorry, Brannon is correct, i read it wrong. They allow for 1 month free trial NOT 1 free 2 hour show. i will go read the fine print.
Deleteas long as we had the chat room too I guess it wouldn't matter if we only were allowed 5 callers at a time.
DeleteThat option only allows for a 30 minute show.
DeleteBill's shows were originally through a site called Shovio. The accounts there are free.
DeleteSheesh, I finally figured out how to get my screen name changed on here. I am no longer Angel Shark, I'll be posting under the name of Susan Harbison. That is not my real name. I don't use my real name on the Net. Sorry for the confusion.
DeleteHere's the story, from today, of yet another poor victim and a great supporter of LA.Another Star of the movie in fact...\
ReplyDeletehttp://missoulian.com/news/state-and-regional/tab-for-dog-care-in-animal-cruelty-case-could-exceed/article_ad009e9e-7138-11e2-b4c4-0019bb2963f4.html
This scumbag and Pie Boy violated a restraining order by trying to film at the location that the dogs were being held at. Billy found out the Montana po po was looking for him and fled the state, but not before stopping at my houose to leave some threats and a copy of his criminal "citizens" complaint....
Feel free to move if this isnt the place Ginger, er Karl...
Did this guy tape a testimony with Lawless?
DeleteChilinski, the guy in the article. yes
DeleteWhy am I not surprised? I gotta hunt down his testimony. NBTDT should use this one as "the other side of the story"
DeleteThe majority of the most outspoken ones are guilty as sin. Just like pie man. Being loud doesn't make you right.
OK, John - you get a brownie point for making me chuckle. er, Karl. Good one.
DeleteThere is not LA video for Chilinski posted. My bet, is because he was found guilty and sentenced to 30 years (25 suspended). Bill probably dropped him like a hot rock, just like Joey.
Very likely... I havent bothered waste any time looking at Windsors crap lately. The story sticks out in my mind because it was the same day he stopped by the house, and I had a couple calls from Law enforcement looking for him over this story on the same day. He had tried to file his BS warrants against a couple people, I have friends in LE, its a large, but small state. It was a laugh for everyone generally.
DeleteDo you know the point of the filming? Corruption because Mike wasn't allowed to have a puppy mill he couldn't take care of? Corruption because Mike is in trouble for growing pot? Or, was Mike up to something else?
DeleteI think it had to do with the dogs mostly. The pot charges came after. Chalinsky was under a restraining order to not go near where the dogs were being cared for. Hes a class A#1 assrag... The dogs BTW were just released a couple weeks ago for adoption and went all over the country..
DeleteThe irony in that is that those dogs are popular in LE for drug sniffing.
DeleteYeah, 30 years even with 25 suspended is stiff for animal abuse. There are probably details of the horror not published, for which I'm grateful. But, that's OK - I have thoughts and words for him I can't publish.
He was only prosecuted for the dogs still alive durinig the trial... 166 I think is the right #. All needed extensive care, twice that # were put down or found is what Ive heard. In the end it was a front for the dope operation. but he was a victim... assrag.
DeleteIn this picture, I counted 89 people. not including pie man. he makes 90.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=441955739217676&set=a.441955725884344.101118.100002097607567&type=1&theater
there are a few normal looking people in there that I haven't seen in any of the other Lawless events
DeleteWhen you look through all those pics of his die hard female followers, and we know he loves women as he said yesterday, especially in his room late at night or in his hot tub. you can see why he promoted Allie to #1 Lot Lizard.
DeleteI am convinced, after watching Pie Man & Lot Lizard #1 on video, that they defiantly sleeping together or have in the past.
DeleteTheir body language in video and pictures in just too intimate.
Well and from watching his body language yesterday it dawned on me that this is his new family. His old one, including his wife, is no where to be found. So with this fake movie scam he has been able to put together a new family including a wife...Allie
DeleteYou'd think if he knew the President was giving him this amazing award, his actual wife would have been by his side for such a moment. I have to wonder if she wasn't watching this blog & the livestream laughing along.
DeleteFrom what Im told, he hasnt spoken or been legally allowed to speak to most of his family since late 2007.
DeleteAnother interesting thing to watch is when they are making the big deal about all his fake awards, watch the non-verbal between pamela and allie as they fight for #1 lot lizard status.
DeleteGinger Snap, is anyone buying a award for you? or maybe someone else that would be funny to shared and save
ReplyDeleteI'll have you know, I was once in Who's Who among american high school students. Yeah, I know, I don't like to broadcast that too much but its true...I'm kind of a big deal
DeleteI love you, I think you should have a real award......but if we do a fake person or maybe one of the people in this clubhouse and maybe a Movie, I do feel it will help
Deletewell as we learned yesterday you cant win an award unless you get 4 standing ovations and hugged and kissed by everyone in the group. Not to mention the fb shout outs and all the photo ops with it.
DeleteBut yeah you are right, that would be a pretty fun thing to mock. Giving someone a made up award and acting like they just won the Academy's Lifetime achievement award.
There was more than one woman when they hugged him, they gently stroked his entire face. As long as I've been married the only man I've ever done that too is my man. Body language was very interesting.
DeleteI think Ginger is right, his real world family is fed up with his antics and chaos so his new family gets to tell him he's their hero and has done a great job 'raising them'.
Gee Ginger...I remember you from High School...you struck quite a pose...
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Sluggo? HOW did you get a pic of our Ginger? Her identity has not been known for many years, not even the great Dauben cracked that code.
Delete*faints*
Yea after lunch everyone wanted a piece of me
DeleteMEET ME IN DC -- 2-7-2013 -- 9:30 AM
ReplyDeleteWe are heading to The Washington Post at 10 am to ask to see the Editor-in-Chief to ask why they and the other mainstream media cover up the corruption and aid and abet the criminals in our governments. Should be fun.
If he really wanted to scare someone out of their minds, have him walk in the door at the local Golden Corral
Umm okay, so now the Washington Post editor is spokesperson for all media. Did he get a pay raise for that?
DeleteMary B is back from DC...lol that rhymed...
ReplyDeleteBrenda Battle Jordan shared Brenda Battle Jordan's photo.
42 minutes ago.
Mary Bagnaschi's ..status.
fyi ... We're screwed? ...
Hi everyone! I am back from Washington, D.C. and the CT Lawless America contingency were able to hand deliver the testimonies to every Congressman and 2 Senators. We probably now have warrants out for our arrest because it appears that it is illegal to hand deliver any thing in writing to your representatives. It was disheartening being in DC and seeing the massive army of government employees getting paid on borrowed money my children and grandchildren and I will have to be enslaved to paying back as 3/4 of our income pays these clowns, we are still not sure to do what or if Our trip to Washington will be affective. The system is so truly broken that massive immediate changes must be made and there are NO legislatures who are willing to lose the votes of the minority to save the majority. My assessment after being in Washington: Wer'e screwed. Yes, and The Home Foreclosure? The State of CT will do everything illegal and submit perjured statements to the court and when I complain to the judge and ask again to be put in mediation= with no reason the judge sides with CHFA and orders my home to be sold even though I have equity and argued without the Judge taking any judicial notice to what I say once again rules in favor of the attorney and tells me 'i'm sorry you feel that way' when I say that the judicial code of conduct has been broke in all of the 4 State of CT vs. Me in 2 years, and has no idea how a person can sequester a Grand Jury in CT.! HOw is that for justice! The CHFA attorney is allowed to lie and submit perjered statements to the court, just like the police did on all 3 arrests, and I get no help what soever. Welcome Home? I don't even know where home is anymore!.
IMHO, leave the talk shoes for Maxwell Smart...just conference with Skype or similar.
ReplyDeleteThis just in...found on the dash of the Windsormobile:
http://i47.tinypic.com/124v3pv.jpg
So while were working on the blogtalk idea....1st off do we want it Friday night or Saturday night the earliest we can start one is 10pm (evening wise)
ReplyDeleteI couldn't do it earlier than that 10pm for Saturday night. Friday? Will get back to you. Who's going to host? bbl
DeleteI'll host one and yappy you can co-host, personally for me 10pm is better, but tech we can do em anytime from 12am -5:30pm....then the times we are not able to do em is 6:00-9:30.....so 10pm- 5:30 pm I guess is the times and the shows can only be 30 mins. long with a (free) account
DeleteIn my experience with these tech efforts, half of the people won't be able to get in or hear anything on your first attempt. It takes time for everyone to figure out how to operate these programs. Some of you might want to set up a dry run before the date of the actual program.
DeleteSandy Fonzo
ReplyDelete3 hours ago near Arlington, VA
Getting ready to check out of hotel and head to the Washinton Post to demand to speak with the Editor in Chief! Maybe he can explain how hundreds of us spoke at the Capitol in DC to an empty room! Not one Senator or Congressman that we invited showed up to listen to our tragic stories about coruption that THEY beed to fix!! THEY who work for us!! With Lawless America
ReplyDeleteI am laughing my ass off at how disgusted everyone that was at Meet Me In DC is that NO state reps, etc where there to listen to their stories!!!!!.
well they believed the lie. Maybe now they will step back and see it for what it was. Sadly, they are probably so brainwashed, they will believe this too was just another cover-up job by the Government, which is what Pie Guy is banking (literally) on.
DeleteIt is sad. From day one Windsor was telling them he was going to give Congressional Testimony. He has always called the film "testimony". His followers failed to understand that Congress does not hold hearings for every disgruntled citizen. He never had any way to get to anyone that mattered. He took them all there on a wild goose chase. There is no point in offering your testimony when no one in a position to help you has indicated an interest in hearing it. I guess they all just took Windsor at his word as to what he could do in DC.
DeleteFYI ... Bill NEVER said that there would be state reps that would come to listen!!!! It was stated very clearly from the start that this was a hope ... that some would ... come but probably wouldn't!!!
DeleteWhat was done in DC was exactly what was supposed to be done and anybody with commom sense and a few brain cells knows this!!!
Also ... FYI ... for every person that was able to go to DC ...there were 100's of us that could not!!!
Bill has done more to fight the CORRUPTION than any of you Joey bloggers .... he is a huge part of letting them know we are fighting back for our country!!
OK ... you can all start your SNIDE remarks/comments back to me now!!! I'll just SMH and LOL at you!!!
Ok Kerin or Julia go read the post below about Bill's own court troubles. You really need to wake up. He is scamming you, and there isn't anything you can say HERE to change our minds.
DeleteGo blow your sunshine up Pie Mans ass. He likes it. But you may have to fight Allie...word on Capital Hill is they were quite the pair.
I'm fighting corruption by going after bill. He is the definition of corruption and dishonesty. Quick give me just one tangible accomplishment bill has achieved. Hint....filming people in other states and buying fake followers on fb doesn't count. Sorry
DeleteNo Lemming - you are wrong. Bill stated very clearly from the start that there would be testimony in front of Congressmen and Senators. And the press. He didn't start to change the expectation until mid January.
DeleteYou will be happy to know that Bill did accomplish everything as expected by us Joey bloggers.
You didn't let me down ...with your snide comments!!!
DeleteThe right place for ...is not the middle of a simple sentence.
DeleteWhere I put the ... is perfectly correct if you new how I was thinking and would have spoken it live!!!
Deletewow, kerin .....He is supporting pedophile men and another that thinks the only good feminist is one rape to death...... Men that have been charge with a hate crime In CT, against an African American Male....... But he calls me a person that is part of a hate group, because he has a computer crook running his web page .......wow how blind are you
DeleteIt's sad Phil couldn't make it either. I really wanted to see him teach Bill about how to handle a microphone (hint for Bill, ya don't wave it like a pointer when you are the one talking).
ReplyDeleteIn their pie fantasies there were supposed to be actual congress people there, or at least the 2 aids that recognized Bill in the hall. They were supposed to sit on the stage and get grilled by the lemmings. A lemming barbeque at it's finest...
Yeah, I love how he just interviews the Lawless people over and over. What does this accomplish? Seriously, my student government group got more attention when we visited DC.
DeleteIt's like when Daddy is working on the car and the little boy wants to help. So you buy him a Fisher Price set of tools and let him go pound on plastic nails in the garage. Anything to keep him entertained so the real men can get work done . . .
FYI- Case 1:09-cv-01543-WSD Document 356 Filed 01/24/13
ReplyDeleteYou might enjoy this Order. A highlight:
"Having considered the character and magnitude of Mr. Windsor’s refusal to pay the Outstanding Sanctions Awards (totaling more than $75,000), the probable effectiveness of a daily fine in bringing about compliance, and the amount of Mr. Windsor’s financial resources–as evidenced by, among other things, Mr.
Windsor’s continued ownership of a seven-figure investment and real estate portfolio–and consequent seriousness of the burden to him, see In re Application to Adjudge Trinity Indus. Inc. in Civil Contempt, 876 F.2d 1485, 1493-94 (11th Cir.1989), Mr. Windsor is hereby ORDERED to pay a fine of $500 per day into the
Court’s registry, starting on February 1, 2013, and continuing until he has paid the Outstanding Sanctions Awards, together with all interest accrued thereon, to the Plaintiffs."
Hey post the link where you found that.
DeleteLOL, well that would explain the request to the minions for a c note or more in cash. No receipt will be provided. LOLOLOL LMFAO
DeleteWow! I haven't seen a person bent over and stuck like that since watching the film Deliverance!
DeleteBanjos begin!
I have a pacer login...
DeleteIN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF GEORGIA
ATLANTA DIVISION
MAID OF THE MIST
CORPORATION, et al.,
Plaintiffs,
v.
ALCATRAZ MEDIA, LLC, et al.,
Defendants.
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CIVIL ACTION NO.
1:09-CV-1543-WSD
ORDER
William M. Windsor is a vexatious litigant who has been ordered to pay–and
who has paid, in substantial part–hundreds of thousands of dollars in sanctions and
attorneys’ fees in this and related cases. See generally [293 at 1-3]. This matter is
before the Court because Mr. Windsor has, to date, refused to pay (1) $37,333.67
in sanctions that the United States Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit
awarded to the Plaintiffs in April 2010 after Mr. Windsor filed a frivolous appeal
in a related case and (2) $38,187.41 in sanctions that this Court awarded in
September 2011 after Mr. Windsor forced the Plaintiffs to move to compel postjudgment
discovery when they sought to collect the Eleventh Circuit’s sanctions
award (collectively, the “Outstanding Sanctions Awards”).
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AO 72A
(Rev.8/82)
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DeleteJanuary 15, 2013,” and (3) notified him that “[s]ervice . . . shall continue to be
made by mail” [355 at 1-2 (internal quotation marks and citation omitted)]. Mr.
Windsor was served with a copy of the January 4, 2013 Order by mail, and, as a
one-time accommodation, sent a courtesy copy by e-mail.
As of January 22, 2013, Mr. Windsor has not communicated further with the
Court regarding the Plaintiffs’ Motion for Contempt. Because Mr. Windsor has
not responded, the Court finds that “there are no disputed factual matters that
require an evidentiary hearing.” Mercer v. Mitchell, 908 F.2d 763, 769 n.11 (11th
Cir. 1990). And, because Mr. Windsor’s failure to respond substantively
“indicate[s] that there is no opposition to the motion,” see LR 7.1B, NDGa., the
Plaintiffs’ motion is GRANTED IN PART and DENIED IN PART, as set forth
below.
The Plaintiffs request three types of relief: the imposition of a fine to be
paid into the Court registry, a further award of attorneys’ fees and expenses for
having to bring the motion for contempt, and incarceration of Mr. Windsor [354 at
16-18].
Having considered the character and magnitude of Mr. Windsor’s refusal to
pay the Outstanding Sanctions Awards (totaling more than $75,000), the probable
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effectiveness of a daily fine in bringing about compliance, and the amount of Mr.
Windsor’s financial resources–as evidenced by, among other things, Mr.
Windsor’s continued ownership of a seven-figure investment and real estate
portfolio–and consequent seriousness of the burden to him, see In re Application to
Adjudge Trinity Indus. Inc. in Civil Contempt, 876 F.2d 1485, 1493-94 (11th Cir.
1989), Mr. Windsor is hereby ORDERED to pay a fine of $500 per day into the
Court’s registry, starting on February 1, 2013, and continuing until he has paid the
Outstanding Sanctions Awards, together with all interest accrued thereon, to the
Plaintiffs.
Because Mr. Windsor has provided no justification for his failure to pay the
Outstanding Sanctions Awards against him and has forced the Plaintiffs to file
their Motion for Contempt, the Plaintiffs’ request that they be awarded their
attorneys’ fees and costs for having to bring that motion is GRANTED, provided
they submit within FOURTEEN (14) DAYS of the date of this Order detailed
documentation supporting the amount of such award, including the reasonable
hourly rate(s) and hours spent by the attorney(s) who worked on the Motion for
Contempt. See Aetna Group USA, Inc. v. AIDCO Int’l, Inc., 432 F. App’x 842,
842-43 (11th Cir. 2011) (unpublished) (citations omitted). This Court will render
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1 If the daily fine proves to be inadequate to coerce Mr. Windsor to end
his civil contempt and if the Plaintiffs exhaust all other available avenues for
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“an award without the need of further pleadings or an evidentiary hearing,”
DeleteNorman v. Hous. Auth., 836 F.3d 1292, 1303 (11th Cir. 1988), unless the
Plaintiffs’ filing is so inadequate that it does not permit the Court to determine an
appropriate award, see Aetna Group USA Inc., 432 F. App’x at 843.
Because it appears that the Plaintiffs have so far sought to collect the
Outstandings Sanctions Awards only by filing a garnishment action in Gwinnett
County Superior Court where it was determined that they had no legal right under
Georgia law to garnish the “surplus” in a mutual fund account in which Wells
Fargo Bank N.A. holds a first-priority security interest, but that they otherwise
have made no significant attempts to collect the amounts due to them, see [354 at
5-7], the Plaintiffs’ request that Mr. Windsor be incarcerated as a sanction for his
contempt is DENIED WITHOUT PREJUDICE.
At the present time, these coercive, but non-punitive, sanctions for Mr.
Windsor’s civil contempt should be adequate to ensure compliance with his
obligation to pay the Outstanding Sanctions Awards without being any greater than
necessary to ensure such compliance. See Citronelle-Mobile Gathering, Inc. v.
Watkins, 943 F.2d 1297, 1304 (11th Cir. 1991).1
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collecting the Outstanding Sanctions Awards, the Court may reconsider whether
incarceration is required as a sanction in this case.
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SO ORDERED, this 24th day of January, 2013.
_______________________________
WILLIAM S. DUFFEY, JR.
UNITED STATES DISTRICT JUDGE
WOW!! He just doesn't like following the rules AT ALL. Thank you for posting all of this. It is really interesting to see something that is NOT written with the Pie Man spin for once.
Deleteso, after he fails to comply with this, next up for Billy is some jail time
DeleteThis is just precious reading. He seriously just lost any ounce of credibility for Justice in his fake movement. Anyone with a valid corruption complaint should run away as fast as can be. Only a person with an impeccable reputation could have made a dent. This clown is just that.
DeleteWhen it his written out from the court like this, there is no disputing the angry, over grown bully on the play ground who didn't get his way, that IS the Pie Man.
WOW I think Gail should read that above and then re-write this comment:
DeleteGail Denise Schumacherposted toLawless America
about an hour ago
Bill when you wake up from your over exhaustion can you explain to all of us if any progress was made in D.C.?
There are some pessimistic people in here complaining that out of all of the Congressman and Senators that not one of them bothered to show up to hear any speeches. And then, "What was that about the Washington Post"? They ran to the phone like a bunch of spineless wimps and called the cops on you? Sickening!
Windsor is not going to jail yet, lol. The plaintiff's have not pursued the usual means to collect the judgment. The judge can't throw Windsor in jail until the other party had done everything they can to collect. These efforts include putting leans on his real estate (a very legal procedure, which will be added to Windsor's sanctions). Another and frankly much more compelling tactic is to attach Windsor's personal property and sell it to pay off the debt.
DeleteHaving read the order, my guess is that the note he recd. during his speech yesterday, was news that law enforcement was at his house going through the entire properly inventorying items that will be auctioned off.
I will also say that I have no reason to believe there is a single untrue statement in this order, but I don't think his refusal to pay a judgment says anything one way or another about his character. It is only natural for people to refuse to pay a judgment if they believe it is unlawful.
DeleteI believe, that Windsor really believes, the law was on his side in his case and that the court's found otherwise because they are corrupt. He may very well be right. I'm not going to review the entire case to find out and I don't think anyone else has ever done so. I think people that stand up to corrupt courts are heroes!
Windsor's belief that his court was corrupt is the whole reason for his two-year rampage. Windsor has a lot of faults, lol but I can't fault anyone for fighting what they truly believe was an injustice.
Please excuse misspellings and typos above, I'm multi-tasking here and you have no edit feature.
DeleteHow much does anyone here want to bet that Windsor's pays that judgment immediately? I'm guessing he will, because he is not going to have his personal possessions sold off!
@ Susan: you said " I don't think his refusal to pay a judgment says anything one way or another about his character"
DeleteI'll give you that - there are plenty of other things that speak volumes of Bill's character, including the basis for this suit and other activities by Alcatraz Media.
I do take exception to your last paragraph. Bill only thinks the courts are corrupt because he lost. Just like the lemmings he's going to put in his movie.
Of course Bill believes he is right, he is a narcissist. I have read SEVERAL HUNDRED PAGES of the court documents. No, I haven't read Bills documents that he flooded the courts with. One of his documents was over 500 pages long. He tries to say everything was lies, but there is well established documentation regarding what Alcatraz was doing with pricing. Also, I've read Bill's emails back and forth with them. Those emails are pretty damning. He basically says they will be paying him by the end of it.
DeleteBill Windsor behaved immaturely. He wasted court resources. He tried to FORCE a company to do business with him. Who does that? If the arrangement isn't amicable, go your separate ways. He was allowed to sell the tickets they had previously purchased. He should have sold that at a small profit and moved on. Instead he wasted HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS in attorney fees for the other side. And, we the tax payers are forced to pay for all the costs incurred by the courts to simply deal with all his filings. It's not right. Bill is acting like a whiny. If in fact his son doesn't talk to him any more, I can see why.
He claims the courts took his money. They did not. HE DID by being so stubborn and vindictive.
DeleteAnd I don't like the idea that just because you lost in court that the solution is to blow up the system just because you believe you are wrong.
DeleteI'm not going to review the entire case to find out and I don't think anyone else has ever done so.
DeleteExcuse me! Do you even know there are over 100 of Windsor's fillings online at justia.com? Do you know there are hundreds of documents online at scribd.com? Finally, have you read the Windsor thread on quatloos.com? With all due respect, the assumptive errors in your post eats into your efficacy.
Susan, in that I have read Bill's pleadings on this case, including his attempt to be heard by the US Supreme Court, I have to disagree about the courts being corrupt in Bill's case.
DeleteBill lost, and refused to accept it, and became a vexatious litigant because he disagrees with the ruling against him. Disagreeing with a ruling does not mean it is wrong or in any way corrupt.
Bill expected to become a very rich man by gaining that Maid of the Mist contract. He didn't get it, and went well, a bit crazy.
If you read up on Bill's history, and his court cases, you will find how much of a sore loser he is. And if you want more proof, look at how he treats anyone who disagrees with him or upsets him.
I also doubt Bill will be smart enough to pay up.
LMAO- okay Susan, there are apparently quite a few of us that have researched Bill to the point of reading court documents surrounding this and other cases Bill has brought to the courts.
DeleteLooks like we all replied at once to correct your assumptions about the reality of others reviewing the case. Oddly enough, much of the documentation Bill posts about these court cases online on his own site(not the FB page but the lawlessamerica.com) will lead you to the same conclusion. He thinks it supports his position that these are corrupt rulings. What it really shows is how warped his perception is. Read those filings with an open mind, and then get back to us about Bill.
My favorite is the one to the US Supreme Court where he says "Bill Windsor is always right'
Oh when I said I hadn't read Bill's documents. I meant his 500 pages of evidence. I've read the pleadings too.
DeleteSusan, we are curious people. We want the full story. Besides, all of the filings for this case are waaaay entertaining.
Bill isn't going to pay. I don't see it happening. He will go down with the ship.
I thought there was a lein on some of his property? I've looked at the Atlanta area property and I didn't see it, but I was really more looking to see who was on the deed and if they were paying property tax. FYI, property tax rates are SIGNIFICANTLY lower in GA than TX. Lucky dog.
@ Sluggo: Ditto. Now that I've thought about it, that comment was assumptive and border-line offensive. We didn't just jump to a conclusion re: Bill's character. Several of us waded through those docs when Bill first came to our attention.
DeleteI know what you mean NBTDT...we don't go half way. It's like me reading all of Mary B.s rants. And all of the legal pleadings I could find on Bill. LOL, and that was when I first heard about him back when Connie first met him and mentioned him or he posted to her page (not sure which).
DeleteWe really do our homework here. Even if Susan doesn't want to.
And I agree with Oreader , they will make you laugh literally out loud and for a long time. Bill does legal filings that include using the fact he is a grandfather as his professional qualifications.
DeleteThing is, as concerned as he is about grandparents rights and based on his comment about not saying their names or he would be in trouble - I think Bill may also have some issues I haven't read up on. I can say I don't plan on going there either.
IMHO Bill may own two properties that have a certain value that the court is looking at. But the actuality that Bill has not mortgaged them to the hilt is slim to none. Theoretically they are most likely worthless. The one property was vacant so there aren't things to auction off. Unless he put everything of value into a storage and put it all back after the pictures were posted.
DeleteHe is a con man. He more than likely has placed anything of value into other people's names, just for the appearance of being broke. No man who is broke can travel two times across the U.S.
He had the option to respond to the court, and they gave him ample time. He failed to do so, which is his problem.
He does not like to be told what to do, and he doesn't like to follow the laws (or rules), that the rest of the world has to adhere to. Thus, his hatred of the Judicial system as a whole, the Government, and everyone out here in the free world that post negative (in his mind) comments.
He can write his little articles in his words, with his spin, and never thinks twice about if it's legal, truthful, or honest. This is Bill's world, and we just live in it. (in his head)
@ Anon 6:20: I'm looking for the 'Like' button........
Deleteyeah I would bet he has mortgaged any and all of his real estate assets and sheltered all the money in different accounts under Barbara's name. This is one of those marriages that is only together at this point because they are funneling all their money and probably liquidating it on the back end until the music stops.
Delete@Susan. If you look back far enough, tothe very first Maid of the Mist case, you will see that ole Billy boy entered into a Consent Judgment against himself and Alcatraz. That's right, he signed a Court Order in which he AGREED to a $300,000 thousand dollar judgment. Everything that has happened since has been a baseless collateral attack against a judgment he consented to
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DeleteWhoa, the 15 posts directly above this, all seem to be reacting to a misunderstanding about what I was trying to say in this paragraph:
Delete"I believe, that Windsor really believes, the law was on his side in his case and that the courts found otherwise because they are corrupt. He may very well be right. I'm not going to review the entire case to find out and I don't think anyone else has ever done so. I think people that stand up to corrupt courts are heroes!"
The majority of the comments seem focused on correcting a statement I did not intend to make. To clarify:
Where I said above that I didn't THINK anyone else had read the entire case, I was not as you all seem to believe, implying that people here don’t know what they are talking about. At least I that wasn't my intention. I was merely saying I thought it would be so unpleasant to read the entire case, reviewing evidence included, I can’t imagine anyone would do so. If in fact some here have read the entire case, my imagination was wrong. It happens. With annoying frequency.
To respond to some of the specific comments:
I’ve read many of the documents in Windsor’s cases.
I know all of the documents are on line.
Since I haven’t read the entire case, I have no opinion about whether the case was properly resolved.
I always allow for the possibility of corruption in the court.
I have read everything on line about the sweetheart deal that MOM enjoyed in Canada for decades, along with an expose of its corrupt dealings on this side of the river. Windsor tried to bully some extremely powerful, well-connected people.
I'd be surprised if they did not have some influence on the court, which does not mean the outcome was necessarily wrong.
I detest Windsor. But I still give him credit if I think it is due and I remain objective about each new tidbit I read. I believe, he believes he was wronged. I don’t condemn him for pursuing what he believed was a just cause. He is too stupid to read the law and I think all of his filings were made in good faith. I think the judicial system could save a lot of money if it took a different approach with litigants like Windsor.
O’Reader, you may be right about this, “Bill isn't going to pay. I don't see it happening. He will go down with the ship.” It will be fun to watch.
Oceans, you wrote, “we really do our homework here. Even if Susan doesn't want to.” I do my homework if I need to reach a conclusion about something. I was not interested in reaching a conclusion about Windsor’s case. I read enough to understand the dispute and that was adequate for my purposes.
I barely take anyone at their word for anything and I found out quickly that Windsor can never be trusted to tell the truth.
I take exception to the statement that “Bill only thinks the courts are corrupt because he lost.” I’m sure we can all agree we don’t know what goes on in the man’s mind.
I’ve never heard of Quataloos, I’ll read that thread ASAP.
Oceans you are preaching to the choir, I have been following this clown for over two years. As I said, I detest him. You wrote, “Oddly enough, much of the documentation Bill posts about these court cases online on his own site(not the FB page but the lawlessamerica.com) will lead you to the same conclusion. He thinks it supports his position that these are corrupt rulings. What it really shows is how warped his perception is.” Hence my argument above, that he was acting in good faith addressing the situation as he saw it.
Anon, I am aware that Windsor voluntarily settled the case and later tried to reopen it.
ROTFLOL@ Brenda Lemming Pie trying to leave a message to the fox station she thought was covering the "Lawless Docamentry" This has got to be included on the next episode of when stupid people leave a voice mail...and if such a show doesn't exist, it should.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63WtSKIGvFg&feature=youtu.be
So we get back the pics from the march on the Post...turns out only 8 of them went (I was too generous in my 15 guestimation) and it looks like they were able to go in, talk to the front desk clerk..then to a security officer and then back outside to film traffic coming down the street. So did we take our country back?
One person says the know a guy. The next person says the spoke to the guy. The third person says they met with the guy...It's like a really stupid game of telephone. (remember that game from years back?)
DeleteRumors galore, and these personality types just feed off each other. Next thing you know, someone will be telling us that Lawless America is taking over the American Idol slot. SMH
Oh Gail you know you aren't supposed to ask questions...
ReplyDeleteGail Denise Schumacherposted toLawless America
2 minutes ago.
Bill when you wake up from your over exhaustion can you explain to all of us if any progress was made in D.C.?
There are some pessimistic people in here complaining that out of all of the Congressman and Senators that not one of them bothered to show up to hear any speeches. And then, "What was that about the Washington Post"? They ran to the phone like a bunch of spineless wimps and called the cops on you? Sickening!
Bill Windsor is now on his way to a mathematics competition. There, he wants show off his genius, and he also heard they would be solving for pi.
ReplyDeleteLMAO Sluggo keeps hitting homeruns.
DeleteWhodathunkit.
ReplyDeleteSo Billy is tired. Fell asleep behind the wheel. Stopped at a hotel. Does anyone know where Allie is? LOL
ReplyDeleteLawless America
about an hour ago.
MEET ME IN DC -- 2-7-2013 - 3:00 PM
I fell asleep at the wheel in bumper-to-bumper traffic in a construction area on I-95. Fortunately, I was stopped. After maybe eight hours sleep in the last three days, I only made it an hour outside of DC headed for home. I'm in a motel, and I'm going to go to sleep.
This is consistent with what I experienced over 25 years in the trade show and conference business. I run on adrenalin all week and then "crash."
We went to The Washington Post, bit we were denied entrance. They called the police, and three or four police cars and three motorcycle policemen all showed up. They were very nice,
I wonder why they called the Police? hahahaha
DeleteAllie would have to roll him in flour first to find his wet spot
DeleteOnly 15 people on LA "liked" this post and about 9 commented. Seems not many really care that he fell asleep behind the wheel.
DeleteI bet he wishes she were the other Allie Overstreet on Facebook. The one at NYU. Hubba hubba. Pie man likey. Let's get a room at the Ambassador Hotel in Atlanda. Pie man prefers blondes.
ReplyDeleteLatest Tee shirt meme for lemmings:
ReplyDeletehttp://i47.tinypic.com/35a4rgn.jpg
hahahahahah
DeleteGee, I see the pie man is spending his donations on more followers LMAO- I hope the lemmings appreciate how he spends their hard earned dollars.
ReplyDeleteThere have been 10 fake followers added in the last 5 minutes. LOL, yep, he really knows how to spend that money.
He's up to 35,927 ....
Ya, maybe the DOJ can check with Facebook about their fraud policy. He is trying to boost the numbers to sell popularity to the t.v. people he says are interested. I also think he planned it to defraud Congress as to the size of the movement. Either way, it's puffing, that's the legal term for selling something fraudulently. Which, is what he is doing.
DeleteActof Courage: Wednesday Feb 6, 2013 4:40 Pm Wrap the US Supreme Court Washington DC We came we met we made a statement ... It was an honor to be a part of this event....Glen Gibellina and many, many others at LAWLESS AMERICA WASHINGTON DC. .see protest like this and many more at Lawless America the movie. Sponsored by 750+ Nobodies .
ReplyDeleteMade a statement of what? Stupidity? Lawlessness? Now it's a "protest"? Thought it was just handing out DVD's, flyers and a Dr. Bill Donahue-Windsor show?
The MOST truthful statement yet by Glenn: "Sponsored by 750+ Nobodies". You got that right! YOU ALL PAID FOR IT! 750+ though??? NOT SO MUCH.
Comment on pic: "Bill giving instructions: Cruz go around to the right side and distract the guard, Allie take the guard at the front, hat man stand under the number sign and be on the look out. I'll manage the camera and when I say "roll em" every body rush the front door !!"
DeleteLooks like the pie man is awake from his little nappie- still complaining about the PoPo showing up at the Washington Post. Take a hint, you are a crazy old man, and you have NO credibility to speak about Corruption on behalf of yourself or anyone. Ever!
ReplyDeleteBill Windsor shared Bill Windsor's photo.
about a minute ago.
MEET ME IN DC.
Can you even believe The Washington Post called a small army of police to their office after we as politely as humanly possible asked to see the Editor-in-Chief to ask why the newspaper aids and abets the government in their criminal activities by failing to report it.
The police were wonderful. All dozen or so of them. Three marked cars, two motorcycles, and at least one unmarked car.
Going out on a limb here but it could be the way you questioned them? How is this politely as humanly possible?
DeleteHow the Washington Post aids in criminal acitivity?
Kind of a party pooper if you ask me. I said the other day security guards would lock you out but did you listen Billy? nuhhuh you always got to learn the hard way.
I'm afraid reading all on here, more time outs are coming for Baby Billy.