The case against Joey
4 years ago at a church camp in Navarro, Joey is charged with sexual assault with a then 15 year old boy, he is charged with three different counts but you could sum the whole thing up as just one sexual encounter.
We have heard that this boy is going to say that this occurred in a bathroom and out in the boat on the lake
There are going to be numerous witnesses that can verify that Joey and this boy were alone in both of those locations
Joey and this boy exchanged internet messages after this incident possibly pointing to Joey being worried about the boy claiming something happened at the camp that night.
Joey's Defense
We have heard from Presley and Daddy Dauben, as well as the prebuttal that Brandy was ordered to put out right after his arrest, that this boy is someone who accuses people of this repeatedly. They have always directed our attention to Joey's coverage of Kevin's House as the explanation.
So I spent some time reading through Joey's "book" on the convoluted chapter of Kevin's House. Here is what I think they are saying. Joey's messianic leader was Bill Reilly. Reilly was also a probation officer who sent many of his subjects to Kevin's House. The guy that ran the place is accused by Joey through several inmates, of abusing the boys sexually. Those that spoke out about this abuse would have their probation revoked by Reilly and back to jail they would go. Joey finally ran the story about this abuse and linking it to his pastor. This got him "excommunicated" from Reilly's church.
So I guess we are to infer from this that Joey is saying that Reilly got one of his boys to make this claim as payback for Joey running the story on Kevin's House. The whole thing is so twisted and convoluted that its very hard to make sense of anything, but there thats my best guess as to what Joey's defense is going to be this week.
based on Joey's manifesto, errr book, yep, I think that is what they are going for.
ReplyDeleteThey are going to blame the victim and point to conspiracies.
It should be an interesting trial. Do we have any way to follow it? Is there any MSM coverage? Is anyone attending?
it looks like the Corsicana daily sun is following it, and I guess Webby will be there too
DeleteThanks Ginger, I had not looked, as I have limited time on this computer I am borrowing today.
Delete:)
Trial, not trail.
ReplyDeleteNo offense intended, but you have "trial" misspelled in both the headline and the story.
ReplyDeleteno offense taken, because I'm not like that
DeleteGrammar nazi in the house. lol Please don't 'vet' my sentence structure, unless for business purposes, I write how I yap.
DeleteHey Webby, how are you this fine afternoon? Do you know approximately how many days this trial is going to last? Has Joey been offered a plea?
the Navarro DA anticipates this trial, with some trails mixed in, to end this week according to the Daily Sun
DeleteThere is a four-page paragraph in the Corsicana Daily Sun today quoting DA Lowell Thompson as saying the trial will take about a week. The short story mentions his conviction in Ellis County recently, but it does not say anything about him being out of jail on bond.
DeleteThose bastards, how could they withhold the story of the year, that being Joey getting out of jail right before his trial for some reason? Well I guess that's why you are the go too reporter for this story, at least we can find out what happened from you....oh wait
Delete*boycott* Corsicana Daily!!!
DeleteOh wait, I've never read it, so my boycotting event will be easy. That'll teach them to start paying attention to Jokey. He deserves to be in the lime-light, after all Joey was Murdoch's nemesis! HOW dare they ignore baby Joey.
BTW, I will be attending and covering the trial. Jury selection started this morning. My reports will be available at http://www.therarereporter.blogspot.com
ReplyDeleteTrail is apropos since it's going to be a TRAIL of lies and perhaps a TRAIL of tears for the victim, ever think of that? More victim blaming by perps. This world SUCKS and those that have stood by Joey have really screwed their own cases. You cannot say one case is the god almighty truth and then go and commiserate or date with someone accused of a horrific crime like this against a child! Would the Fembots' heads explode if they for one minute that the victim IS telling the truth? This is too sad of a train wreck to watch, even I'm not that morbid.
ReplyDelete^^^ who's this one Ginger? I'm not familiar with him/her. If Joey is guilty, I hope he goes to jail TRSS. I think much of the evidence will be because of the seizure of Joey & his family's tech. devices, ipads, laptops, etc. I think there was proof of something sexual that went on at the bible camp.
DeleteUnless Joey pleas out, I can't see him being found not guilty. When the Texas Rangers become involved in investigations, they make certain all their ducks are in a row. They have as close to 100% conviction rate as it could get statistically. I think Joey is on frucked duck. Maybe by Friday, we'll have the answers.
Thanks Webb, I look forward to reading your blog and updates. I only hope you are unbiased while writing the events in the courtroom how they are happening and not just how it affects baby Joey.
*ONE frucked duck, not "on". . no editing ability.
DeleteI'm scared of our in-house dictionary making fun of my posts. Webster is scawy ;) lol
I've been covering trials for over 30 years. You never know what is going to unfold until they get underway. It is actually the best theater there is to be had. You wouldn't believe how many people attend trials just for the show, especially murder trials, when they don't any of the people involved. There have been many times that I thought a conviction was a slam-dunk or vice versa and been blown away by what came out during the trial and how the jury responded to the evidence.
DeleteDid more that 60 respond to jury summons? Just wondering if the Judge rounding people up for failure to appear has had an effect.
DeleteNo cheating, NBTDT: That information will be in my first story tonight. My stories will be posted on my blog and also on the Franklin Center Watch Dog Wire.
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DeleteHe's such a tease isn't he NBTDT?
Ahh, David, come on......you are a tease....
DeleteWell, if you are printing your story tonight, I can wait.
Hey! Daddy Dauben's FB page is gone? That just ain't right, now we'll never know what happened to the LA wheelie Blazer.
ReplyDeleteNever mind. It's there now.
DeleteI swear, I looked 3 times, checked spelling, everything - really it wasn't there....
LA wheelie Blazer is alive and well. Don't read the story with photo about the beat up kid.
Flawless America has made an offer to purchase.
DeleteFlawless america in a wheelie? LMAO perfect for his next business tour "pedophiles across america"
ReplyDeleteYeah, and in as little as 4 days, he might be able to start his new tour right here in Navarro County Texas. Part II of the Joey Dauben "testimony".
DeleteOh, wait - I forgot, there is no more part I. Well, I'm sure there will be enough of "the courts done me wrong" story to make up for part I.
I hope if Joey is convicted you girls will quit calling EVERYBODY else a pedophile. It really is getting old.
LMAO NBTDT is on a rolllllllll, a wheelie one :P
DeleteIf Connie and Presley know you and love you or you're a relative of theirs, you're NOT a pedophile.
Everyone else that is accused by Connie or Presley &/or were extensively investigated by a plethora of investigators, detectives, FBI and have zero evidence against them AND/OR are receiving National Media attention - IS a Pedophile.
Hope that clears things up.
that IS convicted of being a pedophile, or has accusations with countless investigations against them with no evidence showing they're a pedophile &/or the national media is giving them attention -
I can't do anything today. Someone take away my laptop, I'll go use Jokey's crayola's for now..... I thought I deleted everything after the Hope that clears things up.
Deletelol, it's a bit of twisted deja vu yappy :)
DeleteTechnically speaking, Joey Dauben is not accused of pedophilia, which is defined as a sexual interest in pubescent children (usually about 12 and under) by someone of the age of at least 16. He is accused of having sex with a minor of the age of 15, who was too young to give his consent under state law, which makes him a child in the eyes of the law. However in terms of human development, a teenager really isn't a child and sometimes can be incredibly sexually aggressive. And before anyone starts clobbering me with their keyboards, I'm not saying it is OK to have sex with teenagers, just that pedophilia is not the correct term in the case. I thought maybe you girls might like to chew on that one in the meantime until there is a report about the day's activities in court.
ReplyDeletethanks for the Webster's dictionary lesson but if you are referring to what NBTDT said, that wasn't in relation to the current charges aimed at Joey. But thanks for playing.
DeleteI hear ya Webby and want to respond to your post later.
DeleteOur giggling sarcastic reference (is an inside joke sorta).. how Connie and Presley run around telling everyone in the world they're all pedophiles except Connie's dad Tim Bedwell, who's currently sitting in an Alaskan jail facing 36 counts of child sexual assault, some counts with a weapon. Some of those children he allegedly raped were prepubescent.
While Connie falsely accused her own ex of child molestation and eventually lost all rights to her child and Presley is claiming Joey is also falsely accused, everyone else in their world IS a pedophile. They call the Pope, Obama, most of the gov't and all the judges pedophiles. (literally). So the 'joke' was written for them.
Lighten up sweetcheeks, not everything is meant to be taken so literal ;)
Gotta run to a Walgreens..., I ran out of "sky blue" wax crayola's and that's my favorite. No one club, clobber or slobber on webby while I'm gone.
Pretty sure we all knew that webb, but as yappy stat es, there are plenty of 'pedophiles' around to chat about. Bill Windsor says so about himself LOL
DeleteThey (Connie, Presley, Loryn, Joey etc) all like to use this tactic. If you disagree and/or ask too many questions, you are immediately labeled online as a pedophile, pedophile supporter or child trafficker.
Crazy I know, but that's how they roll. Why the pieman didn't see this one coming is beyond me.
C
rare reporter...laws do not have "pedophile" laws per say as it is a mental disorder and pedophilia is not in the statutes anywhere that I have seen.If pedophilia is brought up in court it is usually by a mental health professional. Statutes have crimes against minors of certain ages. Pedophilia is a mental disorder not a crime. I did see where Justice DiTomaso of the Superior Court of Justice defined it as a person afflicted with a serious mental disorder, a mental abnormality known as pedophilia, a sexual perversion in which children are preferred as sexual partner in the case of R v Byers. If you are going to report on court stuff may as well get the legal definitions. Yes judges define terms too. In the judges eyes, if asked, pedophilia could fit the crime me thinks.
DeleteI have seen some people in various places use the terms "child-rapist" and pedophile to describe Joey Dauben this year. Of course, he hasn't been convicted yet of anything in connection with the Navarro County charges so that's jumping the gun. In Texas the charge is sexual assault of a child if the alleged victim is under the age of 17, I believe. So there obviously is no differentiation in the law regarding prepubescent and pubescent victims. But on the face of it, one seems worse than the other if there is not an act of force involved and it is not incest.
DeleteActually Webby, depending on the state, there are differences in charges and that also allows for different sentencing structure for the judges. Which I think, is a good thing. I think someone who violent rapes a 4 year old with a weapon should receive a different sentence than Joey raping a teenager.
DeleteTake this example of Connie Bedwell's father, difference in charges:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-s6MXxOziwCI/UF6Mn8tQZoI/AAAAAAAAAMA/spO8IHkAaU4/s1600/tim+bedwell+charges+10.png
Some of the charges are sexual abuse with a minor under the age of 18 and some under the age of 13. Then you can get into different classes of felony's depending on the severity / crime. Anal, oral, vaginal, penetration, no penetration, etc.
Back to Joey. In Texas, it is a crime to have ANY sexual contact with teens if you are an adult. I take offense to the reference that some teens are sexually aggressive (therefore that must make everything OK??) While you are correct in your opinion, some teens CAN be aggressive, that does not give ANY adult the right to take advantage of them at all.
From my point of view, I see you may be blaming the victim in Joey's case already, if in the event Joey did have sex with this teen, its somehow the teens fault? Without even speaking to the victim of Joey, you appear to have made some incredible assumptions and pre-determinded things I presume because of your discussions with Joey.
I don't care IF the teen was drunk (don't know if that's true or not). I don't care IF he was sexually aggressive. I don't care one damn bit if he offered Joey all the pie under the sky. JOEY was the grown up. The laws are the laws are the laws!!! No adult has the right to take advantage of teens for sexual purposes period! If Joey did this - he is grown up enough to face the consequences of HIS actions.
I don't care if the teen was mature for his age, worldly or lived in foster homes (David Dauben excuses).... I've heard an awful lot of bashing this young man even though at the moment - he IS presumed to be a victim of rape.
I think you've listened far too much to the Daubenista's surrounding you and your ability to remain unbiased has flown out the window.
Lets all focus on poor baby Joey and NOT a teen who may have been taken advantage of and possibly didn't have the 'emotional maturity' to make a healthy decision at the time.
"And before anyone starts clobbering me with their keyboards, I'm not saying it is OK to have sex with teenagers, just that pedophilia is not the correct term in the case."
DeleteBut you just had to do it anyway, didn't you Yappy? Some teenagers are sexually aggressive. The streets of big cities are full of underage male and female prostitutes. No, it is not OK for an adult to have sex with a minor, but it is possible to see how the minor could help influence the situation. Yet, I agree it is still the adult's responsibility to ensure it does not happen.
I'm speaking hypothetically and not under the influence of Daubenistas because every last single one of them claim no sex occurred period.
At this point, I have not heard the alleged victim's testimony. So far I believe what Joey has told me, that there was no sexual encounter at all. I suppose that could change after listening to the testimony from the victim.
In fact, during trial coverage I have often found myself believing the prosecution's case that is presented first, then switching to the defense's side and going all over the place before I finally reported the jury's verdict, which I generally just reported and tried to explain how they might have reached that conclusion.
My ability to report without bias has not been damaged. I am in fact able to look at from many more different perspectives than you are. All of you keep accusing me of bias when in fact it is yourselves who are biased based on your hatred of Joey Dauben's reporting on his blog.
Hey Webb I didn't clobber you, I disagreed strongly with what I presumed was your position. Gosh, there's that victim role oozing out again.
Delete(at the risk of sounding like Billy windsor)...... I believe in my opinion, you have been swayed by what Joey has said to you over however long you have been in touch with him, his loopy fiancee and his conspiracy-crazed daddy dauben. You haven't spoke with the victim, you don't have his side nor any actual details of the 'alleged' crime.
if you're going to make statements how teens can be sexually aggressive while speaking about Joey and this trial, it's not hard to jump to a conclusion that you are implying THIS TEEN was aggressive. That's where I took offense to your statement.
Instead of whining about being clobbered online with a keyboard, I'd prefer you do what you just did... "clobber" back and be clear about how you feel.
Otherwise I'd go on my merry way and make ASSumptions instead of giving you a chance to explain. I do obviously have very strong conviction about anyone implying no matter how mature a teen can be, or sexually aggressive, or drunk or stoned or < insert excuse here > its never ok for an adult to take advantage of that teen or the situation.
I am worried you have bought into Joey's claims of innocence hook line and sinker but you're insisting you aren't so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
Given the Texas Rangers are involved, they do seem to have a good reputation in the state of Texas as running a very tight and clean ship. I have to think that the Rangers have more than a teen saying yup, this happened.. case closed. I think they have the goods on Joey.
Anytime you disagree with me Webby, feel free to clobber all you want. I have thick skin and can handle about anything you wanna toss my way princess :). Come on, give yappy some suga and lets make up.
who are biased based on your hatred of Joey Dauben's reporting on his blog.
DeleteAnd I have no hatred for Joey, Webby so I'm going to clear that part up for you since you stated it.. Hate doesn't live in this gals heart Webby. I think he's repulsive disgusting, an internet bully who's out of control, thinks he's some big-time kingpin who had the right to slaughter anyone and everyone he disliked or believed was guilty of a crime even AFTER being proved innocent.... but I don't hate Joey.
hate is about the strongest emotion one could have, I'll never have the time in my life or energy to care to HATE anyone.
None of us here are journalists Webby. None of us here need to remain unbiased. Some here are victims of Joeys even if you don't feel Joey ever victimized anyone. Some of us are here in support of some of Joey's victims too. Why do we have to remain unbiased towards someone who I personally deem is a little monster out of control? I'm entitled to my opinions whether you agree or disagree.
Where my concern is regarding your 'bias' in this... is that you're also wearing your journalist hat while discussing and writing about it. Therefore it is your job to remain unbiased.
I've never heard you ask about Joey's victims or care to ask. What about people who cried themselves to sleep at night for endless months because Joey felt he had the right to attack them, their family, or whatever he pleased? What about people who Joey basically would continue to repeatedly rip open deep deeeeep wounds and painful memories. Memories and a life they'd rather find a way to move past and find some joy in life? What about THOSE people Webb?
I'm not sure you actually care to talk to any of them. You have only spoke with Joey and I wonder why. I believe you have a heart and maybe someday you will decide to sit down with some of Joey's victims, even if its just to listen. not to write their stories but only to hear the pain HE REALLY put people through. Innocent amazing wonderful law-abiding kind and generous people.
Maybe you'd have a change of heart or at the very least an understanding to WHY some of us on here dislike baby Joey and the harm he's brought to others.
WEBB: (part of this post was from a text to me from a friend. Someone who's never hurt a soul but had the worst thing that could ever happen to this person and Joey still feels he has every right to take a knife and stab this person in the heart, open horrific woulds over and over and no matter how much this person begs him to stop and go away, Joey remains heartless to their pleas).
Hatred of Joey's reporting isn't really the issue. Joey lied. About a lot of things. And by his own admission, he lied with malice. Even the people that I know that were hurt by Joey don't hate him. When I say his name, they just roll their eyes - disgust is probably a better word.
DeleteIn speaking only for myself, I am biased for 2 reasons:
1) Once I know somebody will lie, I have no confidence that anything coming out of that person's mouth is the truth. I will look at all sides to verify everything before forming an opinion.
2) Joey's e-mail exchange with the boy was posted. We have no way to know whether all or part was posted. But, the part that was posted indicated to me that Joey was attempting to engage the boy in an inappropriate way. If I were the boy's parent and saw that exchange, I would have called the police immediately.
All that said: it's because of the bias I have formed that I am so interested in BOTH sides of the story. No matter what I think of Joey, I want him to have a fair trial. Without a fair trial, no matter what the jury decides, the questions and doubt I have will never be satisfied.
damn where is my like button
DeleteOh, that was me btw-- oceans.
ReplyDeleteStill travelling, and just checking in...
lol, using a different laptop and having technical difficulties That was my deja vu comment Yappy, don't know the other anons
DeleteGlad you are safe anonymous, have you run into anyone from Montana yet? I hope your GPS is working and you remembered to take all your recorders and spy gear. We are anxiously awaiting to hear whom shot who is Missoula.
Deletehahahaha, sorry wrong anon...no where near montana, just traveling to see family.
DeleteNope, no one here is from Montana, I just checked.
I'm back, picked up 3 boxes of crayola's and popcorn!
DeleteSomeone seems a bit paranoid... :/ Oceans is a regular poster & is saying she's some of the anon's on here... & is posting that they/ Oceans are still traveling.
It was not Billy. Even though WIndsor has seen this blog, its doubtful he will post. Although I think one crybaby post was his were we should be labeled a HATE blog and terrorists. He's a funny fat man.
My sources tell me that it is a wild day in that courtroom. Do you all like the way I'm building up the suspense?
ReplyDeleteHeh...
DeleteSuspense kind of stinks. I consider Joey a friend. I only knew him for his conservative government stances and his fight against taxes/needless spending.
I've known him since he worked for the Ellis County Press.
I do not know him capable of what he is accused of.
No. And if you are posting here, you aren't working on the story. I'm dying here - get with it already.
DeleteRe: your post @ 4:40 - I understand and agree with some of what you said. Rape can happen at any age, with or without force. I think it's the power position on an adult that makes sex with a minor a crime, even if there is no force. But, that's why we have trials, so the accused can present a defense for his specific circumstances.
I don't think anybody here has made a judgement regarding Joey's quilt or innocence. We are, however, interested in fairness, details and proceedings. So get to writing - or I'll come to court and sit right next to you all day, all week...
Webby is a tease. a great big ole tease. He should be spanked but I think he'd like that too much. Spill your beans Cronkite!!
DeleteI'm glad the trial is finally underway. With all the oddities, weirdness, and disgusting things that I "learned" about several people affiliated with Joey.... I am glad it has started.
ReplyDeleteGlad there is a clear cut thing going on now. Let the evidence prove he is guilty, or let the lack of guilt prove his innocence and clear him.
Just to ask for full clarification -
How long is the DA going for?
How many charges are there exactly now?
I'm pretty sure he opted out of a plea deal, but not positive.
Is there any convicting evidence against him?
Is this basically this guy's testimony against his?
I mean - People seeing Joey alone with the kid is not really TOUGH evidence...
But if this kid can describe the events and (GAHHHH!!!) What Joey looks like etc., he could be toast.
I believe Jimmy, that we're going to hear email and text evidence between joey and the teen confirming this sexual encounter. That's my opinion.
DeleteI concur with your GAHHHHHHHHHHHH on what Joey looks like. lol *fingers in ears* lalalalala
ROFLMAO!!!!
DeleteJury selection is still underway at this time, but the end of the day is nearing. It is possible jury selection will be continued until tomorrow. Not sure yet.
ReplyDeleteI thought you weren't going to attend today. Fibber.
DeleteI'm not there. I got what you call "sources" inside.
ReplyDeleteYeah I will say you got sources. I know what sources you don't have: anyone with the da or the victim, the court or a balanced reporter. But when ever we want to hear what Joey thinks we can count on you to provide it. And I like reading his perspective. I just wish you would admit it
DeleteGingersnap: thanks, you took the thoughts right out of my head. I was hoping for an objective view of the proceedings.
DeleteI'm not going to be reporting what anyone thinks. I'll be attending the trial and reporting the cases that are presented by the prosecution and the defense and the witnesses' testimony. If a jury is seated today, I will report all of the facts about what went on in regard to getting 12 people the defense and prosecution both approved. I'm not holding a gun to anyone's head to read my story. If you truly have no confidence in me, then I wouldn't bother reading it.
DeleteOf course we'll read the story, whether it's based sources connected to Joey or not. We are just less likely to pick it apart if you are there. I was hoping you would go because if you are there, I don't think you can help but write about both sides. And, I think you will be convinced that the jury has reached the right decision, no matter which way it falls.
DeleteAre you going to give us a preliminary report on the jury selection?
Sorry, David - I read your post too fast and thought you weren't going to fill us in until after the trial, or trail, whichever.......
DeleteWell, dagnamit, Webby...You make it so difficult! We all are anxiously anticipating your words on today's events!
DeleteWhy you gotta go get all snippy? We were just disappointed you weren't there in person! Chill! We already know you & Presley are text buddies. We wanted your view, because you've assured us all how unbiased & fair you are in your reporting & beat us about the head, face & ears with your credentials for a month. I wanna take another gander at your article on this with a fresh perspective.
Be flattered. Take a bow. You are appreciated.
I know you. Live right down the road as a matter of fact & I've been telling "the girls" to cut you some slack, that you're cool....then you go getting all pissy & you oughta know, we're fresh outta Budreau's ButtHurt ointment. Lighten up. IF Joey goes down? We might start looking better to you. We really aint that bad. You just don't always "get" our humor. We've been following this far longer than you have & know the HUGE cast of characters real well. We may not be as grammatically correct or as articulate as you, but we can read & research just fine.
I'm counting on you to give us the scoop! I wanna know what the attorneys ties looked like, whose hair was a beauty blunder, if there's any mean mugging stares going on in that courtroom. I wanna be able to read your words & feel like I'm sitting right there!
Now. Calm down. You are not the enemy & neither are we! We're just normal nermals, with jobs, teenagers, dogs & shitacular senses of humor! We all had some kind of contact with Joey & like you, we're interested! You gotta admit, these sideshows with Windsor, AMPP, Loryn, Conster? That is some unlimited comical resource material! You know good & well, you've shook your head & wiped your eyes after reading their ish & thought "Damn Gina, you did NOT just put that out there?" You know you have! You're too intelligent & well educated to not have! That Elijah, lightening, everyone is a pedo, corruption conspiracy theory on every corner, pie tour is just too freaking funny!
We aint trying to steal your birthday or nuffin...
Remember, you can't have too many friends.
Slimmy
aka the Original SlimShadie
**waving with both arms to Homies**
ps- getting new Mac Air by week's end, it's on after that! I had to climb pole to tap this shit out in Morse. Exhausted. Climbing back down to observe from recliner. Chop Chop with it Webby!
You gotta admit, these sideshows with Windsor, AMPP, Loryn, Conster? That is some unlimited comical resource material! You know good & well, you've shook your head & wiped your eyes after reading their ish & thought "Damn Gina, you did NOT just put that out there?" You know you have! You're too intelligent & well educated to not have! That Elijah, lightening, everyone is a pedo, corruption conspiracy theory on every corner, pie tour is just too freaking funny!
DeleteLMAOOOOOOOO omy GAWD I ain't gunna sleep ebber ebber again Slimmy. I can see you now, climbing that pole to slam out morse coding just for Gingers blog (next time try bible coding, its quicker and you make yourself Jesus if you want!!). I love you! YOU ARE STILL TOP TEXAS COOKIE IN THIS CHICKY'S JAR!! lmao
Bible coding, Morse code, sudoku, pig latin, whatever works!
ReplyDeleteI seriously was bored waiting on Webby to un-veil his musings on today's courtroom play by play & decided to just hang up here, signal's better. Yaps? Send carrier pigeon with warm beverage & a slice of the pie of the day by here soon?
Shimmy-ing Slimmy
@ Webby: Good job on the article. My favorite part is "his gonzo style of journalism that drew widespread criticism and charges of unfairness and recklessness." You hit the nail on the head
ReplyDeleteThank you for letting us know it was coming.
http://therarereporter.blogspot.com/
Yeah, outstanding article from Webby. Everything was balanced, his words were carefully selected and the info was pertinent. By far his best article to date, maybe we are wearing off on him even if he wont admit it.
DeleteTwo questions come to mind:
1. Is he seriously considering not testifying on his own behalf? Maybe this is coming from his attorney but I just can't imagine Joey wanting to sit this one out hell he has been testifying on this case to his innocence from day one. Yes he has the right not to, but I just cant believe he would even be considering it.
2. Webb says "Dauben was most recently released from jail on bond Dec. 24."
Now you jump my case for not reporting this but what the hell is that? Who, what, where why, how much? Did he escape?
In the story I say that he is free on $50,000 bond.
Deletenot really, you mention the $50,000 bond that he originally bonded out on but you don't explain how he was released on the 24th
DeleteSixth paragraph I say that he is free on $50,000 bond.
DeleteDauben, who was arraigned in December 2011 on the charges of molestation four years after the alleged incident following a Texas Rangers investigation, is currently free on $50,000 bond.
Deleteso someone came up with another 5 grand? Why in God's name would someone piss away that kind of money when his trial starts just two weeks later? That makes no sense whatsoever.
DeleteThat I can not answer, except that the money is refundable.
DeleteOr is it?
Deleteif someone paid the full 50,000 then I think it is, but if they use a bonding agency and pay the 10 percent I don't think it is.
DeleteWell, I hadn't even thought about that. But I guess you are right. That would be a fee to the bonding agency. I dunno.
DeleteOne thing I'm wondering about is that someone said an e-mail conversation between Joey and the alleged victim was posted somewhere. Where was that supposed to have been posted. I hadn't ever heard of that.
DeleteJoey, in a brilliant move, had Brandy post it on the ECO immediately after his arrest. It was taken down the next day but I'm sure the DA has it still
DeleteNo, the money is not refundable. "The premium is 10% of the total bail amount and is non-refundable."
DeleteThat's how a bails bond company makes their money. 10% guarantee / $5,000 and if he bolts, the bond company is on the hook for the remaining $45K unless they track his hiney down.
My question exactly Ginger. Why would anyone hand over 5G's just so Joey could be home for Christmas eve?
Don't they understand Joey celebrates or practices the Messianic Yahweh faith (for real, no jokes this time) and THEY including Joey do not recognize nor celebrate Christmas. They believe it is likened to satan worshipping. I believe the Daubens are not Messianic but Joey is.
oh and Joey put the boys full name in the article too, which is why it had to be taken down. Joey really knows what to do in these situations let me tell ya
Delete@Webb, yah. If I recall, Brandy claims Joey posted it in the midst of his arrest but I think she put it up. What a mess that was. I doubt there's a copy floating around Webb.
DeleteKind of an odd question for David. Did you take the photos of Dauben that you used in your article or did they come from someone else?
ReplyDeleteThere's breaking LA news too. The in show down in Montana has been postponed.
ReplyDeleteBill's latest FB post:
My trip to Missoula Montana is being postponed to give Nigel time to set up as many as 20 interviews for me. So, I will go after returning from Hawaii.
Maybe those 'real big' non-volunteer bodyguards couldn't show up in time in Montana. At least Boushie can sleep well tonight. lol
DeleteBest hop a last-minute plane to Hawaii for a few weeks filming on the beach. How is this guy still married? That's what I'd really like to know.
@ yappy: he's probably still married because he is never home!
Deletelolol hahaha ^only a long-termed married person would get that... like me. GOOD one
DeleteI took the photo during an interview.
ReplyDelete@Nothing Better To Do Today: You said above that an e-mail conversation between Joey and the alleged victim was posted somewhere. Where was that posted. I never heard about that.
ReplyDeleteGreat article Webby! I knew you had it in you. I think you should wear one of those snazzy hats to trial like Capote. Seriously, I could see you looking all dapper.
DeleteI too am wondering why Joey wouldn't testify? If he claims he's innocent, why not?
It was posted on the ECO, right after Joey was arrested. Of course, when the ECO was shut down, the posting was gone. I have seen it again but don't recall where. I'll see if I can find it again.
DeleteI don't want to mislead - there was nothing sexually explicit, no sexual discussion. Joey was trying to keep the kid engaged and the kid was saying leave me alone. It was the way Joey was talking to him that bothered me, like he was courting or stalking him. Joey had it posted as he felt it proved his innocence. I thought the opposite.
I felt the same. this is why I'm certain the authorities discovered Joey's 'crime' with the teen via the seizure of his laptops, etc. not so much from the child coming forward. Its going to be an interesting week.
DeleteFor all the spankings and teasing we've put Webby through, he's a good sport! Sticking around to entertain and inform us. I DO appreciate it with all sincerity.
@ yappy: what you said, all of the above.
DeleteIt was after the 2nd time I read the e-mail string, which was several months after it was taken off ECO, that I thought these charges came from the forensics, not the kid.
Thanks NBTDT making it more clear :) I'm not making sense. I believe when they took the computers, etc... and did a forensics ON all of that stuff, the authorities came across a potential NEW crime (this navarro thing). I don't believe the child came forward given the timing. I know its two separate cases.
DeleteI guess I'm saying police may have discovered this underage man having sex with Joey and then a few months later, charges are brought. I don't think the kid came in willingly to admit it. I think the police went to him BUT all of that is a hunch.
Am I making sense? I should call it a night.
Makes perfect sense. That's been my hunch too - the cops went to the kid, either because of the first or second seizure of Joey's electronics. I think it's possible that the investigation may have actually started with the first seizure, as the cops were looking at Miessner for sex with under age boys.
Delete@ Webby: I found part of it. Gingersnap and yappy should correct me if I recall incorrectly: the 1st time the string was posted on ECO, it had the kid's name and Joey's name. The 2nd time I saw it, the kid's name was redacted.
ReplyDeleteThis is the 3rd version I've seen. Joey actually posted the kids name again. But, instead of Joey's name, Joey indicates the exchange is between the kid and someone named Issac. He adds commentary, which makes it harder to follow.
Joey chopped this sentence up in this version, but I recall that the exchange posted earlier started with this note from Joey to the kid somewhere near the beginning:
"there is no answer for single and not looking. you have ten minutes to repost with a number that fits you best, or you will be single for the next five years"
The kid says Joey is weird, leave him alone, Joey keeps writing to him, the kid threatens to report him to police for harassment.
This version is in Joey's "book", Chapter 11 (I think, hard to tell).
http://eco2.wordpress.com/2012/09/16/book-freedom-of-the-press/
I'll look for the 2nd version tomorrow - it's still out there somewhere.........
I've commented here before, and may comment in more detail after the completion of the trial, during which I may be called as a witness. My sense of ethics prohibits me from so commenting before then. "The Rule" prohibits me from attending the full trial, so I can't answer questions about that.
ReplyDeleteI never wanted attention, but as a witness in a public trial I may, unfortunately, be unable to avoid it. I'll say now that this case is more nuanced than is being presented here. It's a fascinating story, offering insight into human behavior, from both the accused and the accuser. It's a story that needs to be told - possibly in a book, for which I propose the title "Self-Destruction: The Story of Joey Dauben."
Gingersnap has been a critic, sometimes harsh, but seems to have a real interest. There is also a legitimate public interest in this case. It is my hope that a more informed discussion will serve the public interest. That interest may outweigh my preference to be excluded from pubic discourse.
This chick has all her screws loose. WTF is she talking about? Flying Shane out to testify? GIve me a break. They don't have him as any witness. It drives me insane seeing how much she lies. SC, you want to confirm they haven't flown you out? She really needs mental health help - fast!
ReplyDeleteYou see Webby, here's an example of the loonie bin. Everyone is a pedophile and the pedophiles are out to get joey? smfh that girl is dumb.
Connie Bedwell-Tuma
Joey Dauben's Trial started today. Prayers for the Truth to be revealed and heard! Anybody see a pattern, if you are a believer in Yahweh (God) and expose pedophile rings, apparently you wind up in jail by the pedophiles being called a pedophile. The DA flew Shane Crowe out to testify as a witness, now that should tell you what kind of nasty child raping sickos Joey is up against. Prayers going up! —
I'm not going to Texas. Never been asked to go to Texas and have no intention of going to Texas. Using a Connie quote "they must think I'm hot" since they are always talking about me.
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@ SC: if you do ever plan to visit the Dallas area, let me know. I want to buy you a drink or several.
DeleteThe problem, as I see it, with Connie's comment is that Yahweh believers breed and/or shelter pedophiles that sometimes get caught. Not the other way around. Not knocking anybody's religion or beliefs, but it is a fact - where ever there is a "church" that refers to God as Yahweh, you will find members accused and/or convicted of molesting children. If not for Connie and Joey, I would have never paid attention to this particular belief system or noticed this trend.
DeleteYeah Connie doesn't realize this, along with like 7 million other things, but if she were to buy Joey's side of the story that would mean she would have to turn on his messianic pastor Bill Reilly as a pedophile defender. No matter which side of the coin you buy, you have to turn on a messianic follower.
DeleteThe other thing that came to my attention is, that the Messianic faith started in Europe, England as I recall. They aren't Jewish, as Connie claims. Some guy decided that people of European descent are likely to be descendants of the 10 lost tribes of Israel. Maybe it is so, but I'd think in this day and age there would be some DNA markers to confirm that belief.
DeleteEurope? I didn't know that - at - all. Veddy intewesting.
DeleteOMG NBTDT you really don't have anything better to do today. I have a ton of laundry, come visit AND we can change your screen name from N to S :D
Regarding Webb's story, why did Joey need his ankle monitor off in court? Is he planning to wear shorts like Billy?
ReplyDeleteOh, maybe they don't fit under his skinny jeans?
In a seriousness, if he wears pants, would it really show? You'll have to excuse my ignorance as I've never known anybody with that particular style of jewelry...
I think the idea is to not give the appearance of being in shackles which some jurors might assume means he is guilty. I know its a stretch, but I think thats the logic behind it.
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