Some of his minions are starting to get suspicious of all the conflicting orders from Der Fuhrer. One of them, Debbie, had this to say about Windsor's ever expanding naughty list:
Debbie L Byard Browning Mr. Windsor: Did you just tell me in your above post that I could not agree on some issues within some groups, because within these groups, they may have persons which disagrees with you, therefore they are slandering you? Now Sir, I mean no disrespect to you, however with this being said, I have stated it before, and am now again asking as to why you addressing them? It was my understanding that your, Lawless America, was to support the Constitution of the United States of America, and stop the corruption with our government. I agreed to help you do just that. What I did not agree to do was to pick and choose who has Constitutional Rights. There are thousands of groups on Facebook that I disagree with, but if they are America citizens, each of them have the same Constitutional Rights as you do. One that comes to mind is “Freedom of Speech”, and it would seem to me that you Sir are now making decisions for me as to whom I may follow, and either agree or disagree on Facebook pages. I can assure you Mr. Windsor, you are not my voice, and I am the only one that is my voice. Earlier this morning I sent you an e-mail stating I wanted to be removed as Manager of the Lawless America Indiana Facebook page. This is directly due to your “orders” that you are now implementing. Are you attempting to be a dictator here, I Sir will not now, nor ever take your orders.
The Pie Man had no other choice to respond to such independent, rational and logical thinking than to say:
Lawless America Bye Debbie.
Then he goes on to explain why he did that:
Lawless America I don't like eliminating people from this project (but since I lost about half of the videos I shot, I need to figure out a reason to X them out). But I made it extremely clear before I ever left Atlanta (when no one knew who I was) on June 14 that there are two things I cannot and will not tolerate: liars and extremely rude people (who wont give me pie). At that time, I never dreamed (it was during the day and I was wide awake) I needed to add evil people and vicious slanderers. I have to do what I think is best for the project and the movie (uh oh lemmings, read between the lines, he is laying the foundation for a big change), and if anyone doesn't like that, the option is quite simple: unfriend and go away...quietly (please go quietly because I can't stand people speaking out of turn and without the emperor's blessing).
Then he decides to give everyone an update on his little "Mr. Smith Goes to Hollywood" trip.
1-15-2013 - 6:00 PM PACIFIC TIME - HOLLYWOOD CALIFORNIA:
I met some nice people in the movie business today (some WB janitors let me in and I had some apple pie). Those I spoke with said they were very excited about what we have (pie?), though the best meeting was with a pro who doesn't do document...aries (pro at what?). He is headed to the Sundance Film Festival where he plans to speak with several of the right people for the project (so I met a guy who knows a guy, who plans to go to sundance to talk to some other guys). He indicated that he felt this is a natural for a television series (like Gilligan's Island?). He indicated it should be much more compelling than a show like America's Most Wanted because of the human interest; her loved The Nobodies (what do we mean by "loved").
So, we now have several irons in the fire (oh Billy, you have many more than that you just don't know it yet). I believe we have three very viable possibilities: One contract from an agent for a TV series (wait, when do agents offer contracts for TV shows?); an application to be on a reality TV show with 19 other documentary directors vying for funding (ummmm, did you just say reality TV?); and the last group I met with today.See More (hey lemmings, did you notice what word he didn't use, yes that's right no MOVIE, all of these will be available at your local youtube)
I met some nice people in the movie business today (some WB janitors let me in and I had some apple pie). Those I spoke with said they were very excited about what we have (pie?), though the best meeting was with a pro who doesn't do document...aries (pro at what?). He is headed to the Sundance Film Festival where he plans to speak with several of the right people for the project (so I met a guy who knows a guy, who plans to go to sundance to talk to some other guys). He indicated that he felt this is a natural for a television series (like Gilligan's Island?). He indicated it should be much more compelling than a show like America's Most Wanted because of the human interest; her loved The Nobodies (what do we mean by "loved").
So, we now have several irons in the fire (oh Billy, you have many more than that you just don't know it yet). I believe we have three very viable possibilities: One contract from an agent for a TV series (wait, when do agents offer contracts for TV shows?); an application to be on a reality TV show with 19 other documentary directors vying for funding (ummmm, did you just say reality TV?); and the last group I met with today.See More (hey lemmings, did you notice what word he didn't use, yes that's right no MOVIE, all of these will be available at your local youtube)
I don't know where to begin Ginger. I LOVE your bolding, it's almost like you're in my head. <<< inside joke for the regulars
ReplyDeletewith a pro who doesn't do document...aries (pro at what?).
Presumably he also sidelines as a horoscope writer. Bye Debbie, Bye Yappy, G'nite johnboy.
Soon at a theater near you - Gingers blog lawsuit by JOEY & BILLY
Ditto Yappy!! Another belly jiggler Ginger SNAP!!!
DeleteIn fact, there are probably tens of millions of victims in the United States who never realized what happened to them. One feature length documentary movie is being produced HERE IS THE PLOT SUMMARY http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2337260/plotsummary I guess it is up to Bill to alert these folks they have been hoodwinked by corrupt judges, unless they are victims of domestic violence...in that case they are liars. He hates liars.
ReplyDeleteunless they are victims of domestic violence...in that case they are liars. He hates liars.
ReplyDeleteall jokes aside anon, I have a sinking feeling Billy has had some personal experience in this area.. Disclaimer for when Billy finds this blog >>> that is personally just my opinion without any credible factual documented document... aries.
lol document....aries
DeleteI don't know what to do with that, what was he thinking?
Typos. Pie must be stuck to his fingers, he always has typos.
DeleteAnd by the way, I have to say, Debbie's comment rocked!! She sure shut his Pie hole!! Duh, um,...bye? You were told, stanky pie troll!!
lol...yappy I do not think you have to worry, He can not sue...
DeleteNo he can't sue but be damned, he can label this a HATE site & incite Ginger to SUE HIM so he can file a response to Gingers lawsuit. clever clever (not so) little man.
DeleteI think I figured out why we have so many issues in the world and just cannot get a long. Actually, I KNOW. I KNOW because it's on YOUTUBE and no one ever lies on youtube -ever, not ever ever. Honest to God ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TAtRCJIqnk
Deletelol document....aries
I don't know what to do with that, what was he thinking?
AnonymousJanuary 16, 2013 at 7:06 PM
How to spot a liar.
6) Speech hesitations. Pausing, throat clearing, or other stalling techniques may indicate that a person is embellishing the truth.
I think we can add typing hesitations to that.
ROFLMAO - all of the above.
ReplyDeleteAnd, Bill's BEST meeting was with the pro that doesn't do document...aries? OMG! But, it's OK the pro knows some guys.....
Off topic, sorry - but yappy hasn't made me laugh in 10 minutes, so now I'm getting ticked off at Loryn.
ReplyDeleteLoryn has had everybody in her camp all worked up for a week because she was going back to court today. She was ready! Bill told her that her case is void, she was going to tell the judge the court order is void and get the kid back today.
The courts have been closed for 6 or 7 hours now and there hasn't been a word. Friends are all over her's and Connie's pages asking for status - nothing. The only news is that baby daddy showed up in court this morning with 3 attorneys, Loryn is pro se.
That's just rude and inconsiderate for her to leave us all sitting on the edge of our chairs.....waiting......to hear she lost.......again........
sigh..... NTBTD..... . go back to the other thread where we were talking about rugs and drugs. I HAD to post a disclaimer from the Canadians harassing me!
DeleteAND then LOOK UP because I found a youtube (true story) about why Billy is having trouble with his minions. We're missing a piece of the pie!!!
oh yes and HOW RUDE Loryn... you beg, cry, plea, scream, whine and yell for attention from your own special minions and then leave them hanging while they suffer not knowing IF you won your court case? Fer shame fer shame fer shame skeleton lady!
DeleteI'm NOT lying nor was it photoshopped or a yappy joke. seeee I told ya
Deletehttp://www.sportsmole.co.uk/off-the-pitch/news/cbcs-armstrong-typo_64233.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLsEcljjYYo
DeleteOMG! yappy can see into my house! That's me, reading yappy!
Thanks, yappy.....I needed that.
Okay - I got here to see what happened to Crackpot Joey; I see that Smelly Jeff Baron is mentioned, and now some dude named Windsor.
ReplyDeleteBut WTF is all this about “pie”?
"But WTF is all this about “pie”?"
Deletethere is NO simple way to answer your question... but Joey is/was a part of the Pie man's world. All the best anon, good luck in figuring it out. When you do, you'll laugh like you've never laughed.
he is obsessed with pie, cant stop eating it. He had done a round the country pie tour and now he is doing it again under the guise of a movie
DeleteDammit. Now I'm curious.
DeleteI looked through several old posts from this site. Is there a mirror of the old Wordpress site I can check out for more clues?
try this and go back to the older posts
Deletehttp://joeyisstillalittlekid.blogspot.com/
Yup! Bing that Sh*t....
Deletewhy isn't that completely viral NBTDT ????
@ Curious pie person.
Bill Windsor (William WIndsor) is 'allegedly' a deranged con-artist that had internet based companies (familiar ehhh kinda like Joey??) in which he was sued because he did not provide the services he and his son promised.... and in response Billy sued endlessly back - arguing how he should be able to keep his fraud-style conjob websites. Eventually the courts deemed him a vexatious litigant and Billy could never ever return to the courts to file & sue to prove he was not the scamming scammer he IS.
Then Bill Windsor starts to drive across America even though he is absolutely freaking LEGALLY BLIND and make a fictitious movie where 8 gazillion people record monotone hotel room 'interviews' about how they were wronged by the court system.
Several of those people have legit complaints and issues and the rest are somewhat exaggerated or frauds & liars.
Billy never 'vetted' his people. He took them at their word, nothing more. Even though we on Gingers blog posted several of Billys people were actual lying scam artists.
(Billy did eventually can all the people we were dissing on).
WELLL WHEN Billy got wind he had 'liars' in his Lawless AMerica - the movie (free on youtube) and EVEN WORSE? They started to call Billy all kinds of meanie 1st grade school names, BILLY went on a rampage deleting all the liars, slanderererers and libelous people on earth out of HIS MOVIE (although he always told others it was there movie, he was only the messenger - he was lying. The movie was never going to be a movie, STILL is not going to be a movie. Lawless America is lying even today about going to 'movie' people to receive contracts. Scammers always scam and there's a sucker born every da)....
BOOOM out he starts tosses people left right and center that said 'meaning' things to Billy, even if it was a question that seemed inappropriate BOOM you're a HATE GROUP, you HATE BILLY so you are gone.
In the meantime back in Gingerland central, we alll knew this was already going to happen. We knew he was a scammer and knew it was a matter of time people with a variety of civil and legal issues would turn on one another. Billy sought out people who had 'friended' groups on FB he disliked. BE DAMNED Billy was not going to tolerate any of his minions to 'like' any group that said meanie things to him.
Deep breath........ soooo Gingers sheeples dug up the history of Billy and found "ROUND AMERICA" with the same logo and all where he .......travelled around America with other people paying him to do so, while he ate pie after pie after pie. I think 150 days on the road and 185 pies. PIES, not pieces but I think whole pies ??? So the PIE MAN was born.
HOW does this connect to JOEY?
Joey's dad eventually caught wind of Billy and painted up his poppa wheelie truck with the Lawless America - the MOVIE logo and BIlly rollled into Ellis County to video Presley (joey's former soul mate but shush, he doesn't know that part yet).
Joey's camp thought Billy would save the day and LOVE Joey and Joey's daddy for honoring him (Bitler style Hitler). Billy proceeds to provide us with endless entertainment without even trying. He FORBIDS and immediately bans any and all who do NOT eat HIS type of pie or follow the minion script. If they ask a question - BOOM yer outta here, NO MOVIE FOR YOU!
Billy has called himself hero, savior, President and whatever else a narcissist can call himself.
And now you know, sorta kinda but really you need to read it as it flowed out. Its much much funnier
MY EYES!
DeleteI didn't mention the part how early on in June, july, on facebook etc - he was E-begging for money money money, cash, pre-paid credit cards, people to PAY for his hotels in advance, gas cards, frequent flier miles, etc............................ as it goes. (even though earlier in 2012, he told his limited groupies he was a very very wealthy multi-millionaire with a HUGE heart only out there as the lone wolf to get justice for the finest American Citizens.
DeleteI swear a fish farted when I read that because something STUNK to high heavens.
Billy has a LOT of legal claims against him. Internet searches show his literal $$ 1.4 million dollar estate in Georgia is being litigated into a forced sale. He has no money and no means to earn money unless he finds ways like - prepaid credit cards, gas cards, etc etc etc.
Catching onto Billy's scams for free travels across America? Incredulous scammers use what works in the past and simply rinses, repeats and recycles. Unfortunately for Billy, some of his minions figured out they can use a thing called 'google' to enter his name and have discovered the real pie man.
Okay. Googled it. The guy does seem obsessed with pie ... And seems to be a conspiracy mongering whacko, too. It's like Joey, only with a beard, a belly, and a higher dose of Ritalin.
ReplyDeleteYep. All that, and a larger following.
DeleteBe careful, pie guy is every bit as addicting as "Crackpot Joey"
Look up, I tried to synopsis for you. And there's a couple of movies about Billy as well.
Deletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGW7wIRNt4Q
https://vimeo.com/56580360
Yup. Look up I tried to write a synopsis but you should really read from the start. Its so much funnier and I'm sure I missed 80% of the story (errr the MOVIE).
DeleteAnd there's a couple funny movies about BIlly too.
https://vimeo.com/56580360
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGW7wIRNt4Q
Good Lord. The more I read about these folks .... I mean Joey/Jeff/Billy are all apparently cut from the same cloth.
ReplyDeleteWow. What the hell does Ellis County put in the water supply to generate so many whackos
Maybe he gets the water shipped in from Ellis? Billy is originally from Texas, living in Georgia.
DeleteWell, Bill did and Jeff does live in Dallas County. But, to be on the safe side, I'm sticking to the bottles of Fiji....
Deleteit is not the water its the 'pedophile ring posing as the judicial system'
DeleteCurtis pulls off a true zinger!!!!!! LOL
Delete"the bottles of Fiji" ? ? ? <<< NBTDT you need to call me. I did not know one of the conditions for living safely in the state of Texas was Fiji water. I'm very skeered right now and oddly paranoid and craving pumpkin pie but it's not pumpkin season!!!
DeleteNow I am truly laughing. I got complemented by yappy That is a first I think.
DeleteI am quoting Joey there. Joey believed that the judicial system in Ellis County was run by a pedophile ring. That is why Joey always complained about the light sentences handed out in Ellis County.
DeleteTo truly follow Joey one had to believe this commandment first and foremost. I never did I always assumed it was because the judges in Ellis County and the juries of Ellis County believe in rehabilitation.
I guess that's one of the many reasons "I never trusted Curtis". Curtis didn't ad-hear to Joey's regulations. "One must believe as I do" to be trusted.
Curtis you're a cool dude in my books regardless of difference of opinions. I've given you a few rough rounds at times but really, you stood by Joey as a friend if he was innocent and IF found guilty you always made it clear you would agree with whatever the jury's verdict rendered. Its too bad Joey tossed you under that bus early on in the game, not unlike our Billy, if you didn't follow the Joey minion mantra, you were done, gone.
DeleteI know you've had a hard run in life with family - been there, done that deal too - I wish you well. Thanks for putting up with my pokes, take it in stride, you don't have thin-skin like a few whiners we've seen. Laugh away
Now that I've said this to Curtis... Brannon is going to hate me and we'll never have that beer or even a Mike's hard raspberry lemonade. :(
DeleteI dont take what is said here personal. Because constructive criticism helps most normal people. Ginger gave it to both of us (Joey and myself). What I did take personal was the attacks by Joey's other friends and calling what I was saying a lie. then being lied about in his manifesto. That is what I took personal.
DeleteThe Jury reached their verdict based on the weight of the evidence and came to their conclusion. I agree that Joey has had his day in court and now must face the consequences of his actions. His actions placed him in a bad situation that he exacerbated. Do I believe he harmed this teen? Yes. Do I see him being a repeat offender? No. Was justice served to the teen? Yes. Will I keep catching the blame for his bond being revoked? IDK nor do I care.
I know what I know and I believe what I believe. I believe the jury made the right decision based on the testimony given.
@yappy, lol, hate you? of course I always have, however, as long as you realize that Erica Morse, is a wanna-be MVZ, and is a complete psycho, then I'll hate you less-Brannon
Delete@Brannon - deal ;) lol
Delete@ yappy: drinking Fiji 'cause I live in Ellis Cty. Don't want to catch the wacko illness.
DeleteYappy, thanks for the Cliff's Notes version. I appreciate it.
ReplyDeleteI keep my identity anonymous because, while I was never in their crosshairs, I was on the periphery of some of Jeff and Joey's shenanigans. I can't and won't say more than that because I have a family and a life and don't want to see either disturbed by these maniacs.
I have casually followed some of Joey's ECO stuff, and have always found him to be one if the most immature adults I've ever known. This is particularly true with regards to his attacks on Joe Grubbs.
So that's my story. One other question - was Joey connected to disgraced former Midlothian attorney Todd Phillippi?
YES! Infact Joey was trying to blame Todd Phillipi's arrest in some sort of conspiracy to keep him from winning his 10,000$ from his false arrest case against Combine
DeleteDon't ask the yappy. I don't even know Joey, only a handful of people that he wrote about. Grubbs name - meaningless to me / sorry. But I will read up on it in the web archives.
DeleteUnfortunately, Joey's immaturity was his downfall in court the past week. He would not admit to his crime, nor take the plea deal offered to him - time served / 10 yrs probation. He declined. Now he faces up to 30 years. wow wow wow wtf?
Ginger n company spent a lot of time attempting to honestly reach out and convince the Dauben corporation (mommy and daddy) to comprehend how the Texas Rangers have nearly a 100% conviction rate and that Joey WOULD go to prison IF he admit it & didn't make a plea deal.
Deaf ears. They're right, we're wrong and Joey is where Joey is because he's JOEY!
At the end of the day, while I yap the crap on Gingers blog, I had nothing at all to celebrate about Joey's verdict or sentencing / ending. It was a complete empty victory.
A man who had such energy and time on his hands and (somewhat) intelligence chose to hate and hurt and commit crimes over choosing a life that could have been probably pretty interesting if he was morally & mentally grounded. Any person who is so self-destructive WILL find themselves in these circumstances and have a very very hard time with life.... (enter Billy n his some of his lying former groupies).
Please don't get me wrong. I have a dear friend who was almost destroyed by Joey even though she survived the worst a person could live through. He's a monster and JUSTICE has been served. I will never be on board with the group that would prefer and joke and laugh about him being raped or tortured in prison. There's no justice in that no matter how you slice it. Take away his crayons (laptops and internet) and his freedom. DIctate when he eats & sleep - fine by me.
I don't believe his parents did right by him. I don't believe he was raised with boundaries, responsibility, accountability or the sense of ANY pride in a 'JOB' well done. I see people (his family) who made endless excuses for Joey if he cried on cue (regardless of how old he was)... or if he played the pity party. Enablers to the end. There's BOOKS on these type of people / enablers.
I find it horrific his own mother got on the stand and outright LIED for her baby over seeing justice for the raped teen. I'm not surprised to read mom didn't get on the stand during his sentence to plea for Joey's life. She bombed with the jury during the trial as did Joey so I assume possibly the jury did not buy what she was feeding them.
That's my yap on him. He only has himself to thank for the time he's about to serve. Plea with no prison on the table and he balks? OMG SMH then go learn the hard way because mama and daddy did NOT teach you right from wrong! Sad sad sad
Sorry for whatever you had to endure. The more I read the more I see how much he was out for blood and would not stop until his victim bled to death (figuratively).
A suit was filed in 02 or 03 against Joey and the Ellis County Press for libel. Phillippi represented them.
DeletePhillippi was arrested several times by MPD. Once had something to do with a drug case that Phillippi called a conspiracy and he's been arrested for DUI.
grrr edit yappy!
Delete"Joey WOULD go to prison IF he admit it & didn't make a plea deal." if he DIDNT admit and did not take a plea deal, he would be going to prison".
Yeah, yappy; Joey's (and Jeff's) bloodlust and immature arrogance are exactly why I got no closer than the periphery of their little circle. Once I got a whiff of what they were about, I promptly ran like hell. Cost me some money, but it was a small price to pay to get out from under them.
DeleteOh yeah - Yappy, Joe Grubbs was the Ellis County DA until 2011(IIRC); now I think he's the judge of the 378th District Court in Ellis County.
DeleteYes he replaced Knize as the 378th judge when Knize went to the appellate court in Waco.
DeleteNo, you're mistaken. Judge Kneize retired to Ennis; Judge Scoggibs of the 378th went to Waco Court of Appeals.
DeleteI stand corrected.
DeleteWhat a messy bunch. Looks like I have more interesting reading ahead of me.
Deletemmmm do you think he on his way too..........1-15-2013 - 10:30 PM PACIFIC TIME - LOS ANGELES CALIFORNIA:
ReplyDeleteFilming has ended in Los Angeles. More maddening stories. Now I need to pack up and get a tiny bit of sleep before I head to the airport at 4 am.
There are SO MANY people wanti...ng help. Once DC is past, we should be able to start focusing effort on helping those in immediate need.
I started coughing this morning, and it won't stop. I was around some sneezers and coughers on the long Hawaii flight.
I need to go and do a 2-page summary for the film folks I met with today.See More
Holy cow. Phillippi got disbarred, arrested and did time because he committed perjury - he signed an affidavit for another person, then took his assistant's notary stamp, stamped the document, and signed her name to it! I don't know WHY he did something that stupid (my guess is he was about to blow through a deadline and faced a malpractice claim and/or a bar complaint for doing so), but he's admitted guilt.
ReplyDeleteYou are forgetting Todd and his wife Melissa also were on food stamps and welfare for years. Stole money from taxpayers so he could have a larger drinking/drug budget. That is what he admitted guilt to, not the perjury. He will go to his grave thinking Ellis County "wronged" him regarding that, too. Whatever. And, yes, he was disbarred, thankfully.
DeleteLMAO bravo bravo!
ReplyDeleteok my latest homage to Gingersnap
ReplyDeletehttp://editorcurtisbutler.blogspot.com/2013/01/the-gingersnap-effect.html
I think I will catch some flack for that one.
Deletecan someone make a video of Joey and pie man introducing themselves using the video of Joey in the Post Office?
ReplyDeleteI dont care where you the the pie man video at.
Deleteok I really cant call it a fake out but I am sensing that he wont make his 4 am flight
ReplyDeleteLawless America shared Lawless America's photo.
2 hours ago.
1-16-2013 - 1:45 AM PACIFIC TIME - LOS ANGELES CALIFORNIA:
Uh oh. I am alive and sick in LA. Now coughing pretty much continually. It's impossible to sleep. No way I can fly like this. When my coughing gets the most severe, I am unable to breathe and pass out. This is a problem that I have battled periodically for the last 10 years. I'll be fine, so please don't worry about me. I just didn't have anything else to do while coughing, and I like to let everyone know when plans change.
www.LawlessAmerica.comwww.YouTube.com/lawlessamericawww.facebook.com/lawlessamerica
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2337260/
Oh dear there's just so much I read into this.
Deleteo please don't worry about me. I just didn't have anything else to do while coughing, and I like to let everyone know when plans change.
Now you have nothing else to do but go on your own FB to update your followers because you have the sniffles? Must suck not being able to get online to handle those pressing impossible to read 50K emails, there might be another "tv people" who want's to give you a contract. Darn, sad, so so sad.
(TV people is something Billy wrote about a week ago. I guess he googled to see if he could come up with better Hollywood lingo since then).
OMG...SYMPATHY...Someone please give me sympathy...I haven't had anyone kiss my pie-ass in 45 min. I got sick because of SOMEONE ELSE, and I am out here for all of you...cough, cough...Don't worry about me....I'll...cough, cough, be...fine...sigh!!! Oh paaallleeessee.
DeleteOh dear..... Now Billy isn't going to make his 6am flight to Missoula. And I had all these pies laid out for him... And what do I do with the big "welcome pie man" banner?????
ReplyDelete