So to recap yesterday's pie fight, lets track all that Windsor said. It all started when we (OReader and Yappy) did a little digging and found out that the pictures that Bill was posting on where he supposedly was, where all stock photos from the internet. He even went on to mark on a map the exact locations he supposedly went to such as Paramount Pictures and Rodeo Drive. So the logical question to ask is if you just went to a location and you want to tell your followers that, why would you take the time to find a fake pic on the net to show it? Then we could see that his facebook time stamp and his claimed locations didn't jive either. Throw in the fact that he was able to constantly update his facebook and other pages throughout the day and you have us finally say "pants on fire". He has struck back and decided to show us some pictures of some building he was at, in some location at some time not known. 10-4 Pie Daddy
Then we have the fake news story he made about the police needing to have riot officers out because they knew Lawless America the movie was going to be such a big hit. Yappy called and found out from the hotel that they have no knowledge of any of that. No police inquires, nothing. Just a made up story to try and get his dwindling followers to amp up and re-commit themselves to his cause. Pie Daddy bragged that he now has 30,000 followers yesterday Well he linked those supposed followers to this site and my traffic on here decreased slightly from the day before. So I say pants on fire once more.
The Pie Man then made a fatal mistake when, in his rage at reading this site for the first time, decided to out us to his followers, along with a link to it. He goes and puts up a picture of some poor guy and says:
"Lawless America This is believed to be a photo of the guy who runs the site. Can anyone confirm this? It is possible that he used the photo of a better-looking guy."
Lawless America No, this is me. Not in the photo, but I posted this. Go to the site and see.
Lawless America No, I just posted this picture and message above. I do not know who owns the site, but I was told three or four months ago that it is a pedophile. I find it especially interesting that he or it has teamed up with the hate group, American Mothers Political Party.
Lawless America The owner/operator and users of joeyisalittlekid.blogspot.com need to be reported to Blogspot and the FBI. Would someone do that on my behalf? This person has also emailed me threats and all kinds of lies and stuff. I consider this serious cyberstalking.
Lawless America FYI: I am not at the Insane Asylum; that is where this picture seems to be from
So that was the pic believed to be me? "It is possible that he used the photo of a better-looking guy" heh cute way of admitting you lied. Then you say that I, a person you admit you dont know who I am, have been emailing you threats and all kinds of lies? And you then ask your lemmings to report me to the FBI. So how do you know I'm emailing you threats and lies if you don't even know who or what I am in the first place? On top of that you told your lemmings you don't have time to read your 50,000 emails a day anyway. So which lie is it?
it seem like the only one supporting him today is the crazy people from CT Mary B and Julia F ..Julia is giving ideas on how to deal with all BaPa imagine friends.
ReplyDeleteyeah I think the jig is just about up over there, part of the reason he had to try that little police riot story was a desperate attempt to get support. Now only his most loyal followers are left, and they are still mad at him for saying Sandy Hook wasn't a conspiracy.
DeleteMy favorite part was:
Delete"The owner/operator and users of joeyisalittlekid.blogspot.com need to be reported to Blogspot and the FBI. Would someone do that on my behalf?"
WTF??
Because he dosent want to get caught making yet another false report?? Thanks to Billy and Crystal Im on a first name basis with the local FBI agent. They call him constantly, Im still FREE!! My question is why when someone keeps making false complaints do they not arrest that person and at least send them for a mental evaluation?
the mess up part of that is the people posting on his blog today live 20min from Sandy Hook....that how sick they are, they know it was real most of us knows someone killed but those bastard, Still keep on posting it is a Hoax, and those people still support him
Deletegood point anon
DeleteGinger, I bet your traffic didn't even really go up much if anything due to Bill's link to you. That should be really telling about his "following."
Oh he claims to have more than 30,000 people behind him between followers and friends. Well, I'm sure most of his friends also follow him, so that idea is shot. And, well as we've noted, his numbers keep jumping by pretty obvious blocks. It's beyond OBVIOUS he's buying his followers. If you take a moment to look, most of them have nearly blank profiles, are from foreign countries (uh, isn't it Lawless America??), and seem to "follow" a bunch of the same stuff . . . hmm
dumdass sent me a Virus today trying hack me because they think I am you, So here is one of Julia/ Cathy Sloper/ Lot Lizard and her BF the bastard that keep trying to hack people system, this is the kind of people that are going to be in DC....they love him, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-9aJ4mHroo
DeleteIs this SC? I knew he said he thought that because of Presley. What did they send you? An email with an attachment?
Deletethis is KW, the one that told him the Lot Lizard and her BF is crooks....and the Pie man went bat shit nuts and said AMPP is a hate group...It was in a e-mail of a Blog sent to me today. Cowards just tell the the Truth...
DeleteAt first, I didn't think Pie Man was stupid. I just thought he was an arrogant ass that thought everybody else was stupid. But seriously? He can't even make his lies logical.
ReplyDeleteSo, Presley told him the person that runs his site is a pedophile & her dad. OK, but didn't he already establish that he doesn't believe anything Presley says and thinks the men that her bunch accuse are probably not what the girls say they are? He can't have it both ways.
And seriously? Once again he uses a stock photo. Sure, funny, I get illustrations. But why even halfway pretend that it is a real person and not just an illustration?
He's right about some people being dumb though. It's evident in reading the comments of his followers. They can't understand his post, and as always, they blindly believe that is a real person in the photo & not a person playing a character.
He lies that he has received threats from Gingersnap, but he can't provide any other information but a website?
He's such a big loser he has to call for people to report the website on his behalf?
He's the person who claims to have received threats, he should be doing the reporting. And yeah, once again, it's funny he claims he can't read his email, but yet again he points to an email that he received.
Lol @ the insane asylum. Yes Bill, we know you can change your location on a whim.
And regarding the new photos of LA, well 90% of those could still be old. All of the photos around the various tourist attractions just tell me that he was on a little vacay rather than working on getting videos. Yep, I imagine he was there, but there is no proof that it was more than an evening layover where he met a few people at his hotel and took in the sights.
OMG Ginger!!!! I just noticed the picture at the top of the post! It looks like Billy has lost some weight! Maybe he hasn't had as much pie since he is soooo sick. But golly does that nose look ugly. Do you think those leaves are like some kind of fungus. He should probably have that checked out. Gah, I can't even believe that he'd let somebody take a photo of him like that.
ReplyDeleteStill think he is trying to get out of his fake promises. On one hand, did he make the false claim of the riot police to get more people to show up, or scare them away. I think the latter. Just like picking fights with people and groups and saying they are sabotaging his efforts. Nah, Pie guy is doing that ALL on his own. He will back out and blame others. Then he will do whatever his real intentions were in the first place.
ReplyDeleteSpeculation by some is identity fraud, others think it was to pocket the donation money that several people have said they gave him to go towards the 'movie' and travel expenses. There are some other ideas but you get the point. He will bail, and blame everyone else IMHO. Allegedly.
And there he goes again, posting the fake 'will Lawless be Banned' link.
Delete"Lawless America One thing is well-established: Film Festivals are not afraid to show anything. These nuts are actually doing us a huge service as calling attention to our film with Sundance is publicity that money can't buy."
This is what he does. It's all self promotion. He post articles, or has a friend post articles which always link back to him. He makes outrageous claims to get attention. None of the articles I find are from any real credible source, just Pie boy, son and friends. Like the one he claimed he had the Constitution Void in a "Landmark Decision". He is a media-whore (for lack of better words) and his constant need to bring attention to himself shows.
I don't think he's trying to do the ID theft or even scam people out of money to it's truest extent. I think on some level his motivations are exactly what he basically says they are - revenge on the judges that did him wrong. He can't file anything, so he's basically using a bunch of people to "expose corruption" just to get his little angry vengeful way.
DeleteHowever, I do think this his little retirement project. The guy has a pretty solid history of being a salesman essentially. He pitches an idea, gets some poor shmuck to buy into him and his idea, then he runs off with the money before his bad idea can fail. Now does Bill think he's selling something that is destined for failure? In general, probably not. Bill thinks he's successful. He'd just blame the people who bought his ideas for not executing them properly. This little Lawless America thing is exactly the same as all his business ventures.
I think the guy is ill-equipped to follow through with any of his plans. And rather than revise and tailor his plans & seek out qualified individuals for support, he keeps broadening his plan in an effort to redirect. He knows he's failing, but he continues to lie to himself and others about it.
I'm just not sure if Bill knows the difference between truth and his lies/exaggerations. I'm wondering if a bit of early dementia is setting in.
And where is his wife? It's not normal to be away from your family for extended periods of time like this. She had tons of time to go on his first pie trip, but now she's not around? If it's because she is ill, why isn't he at her side?
Oh, and I got a bit off track regarding scamming people for money. Again, I think that's Bill lying to himself and others. I do think it's likely that he's taken quite a bit of money from people. I'm sure he thinks he deserves it for being their "leader." I think he'd pay himself a CEO sized salary out of donations and think it was perfectly justified. I'm not sure the IRS would agree with the way he handles money though. (I could be wrong on this though. I'm not sure how much money any of his followers have. - which in a way makes it worse if he's taken any money from these people.)
they have stolen people tax return...and Lie about some of the people that gave him money
Delete@Gingersnap, what is your email address? -Brannon
ReplyDeletek, I just emailed you -Brannon
DeleteAnd this just in. Um did I miss something? Since when did AMPP say Sandy Hook was a conspiracy? More lies from the Pie Guy
ReplyDeleteJan Smith posted to Lawless America
18 minutes ago near Olympia, WA.
Tried to call special ops again this morning. They are out and about doing who knows what. Will try again later
Lawless America You know the latest report is that I made all of this up. I think that was started by members of the American Mothers Political Party who say Sandy Hook is a vast conspiracy.
he is liable to lose a lot of members to AMPP with that little remark
DeleteBilly just loves making stuff up to stir the pot.
DeleteOK Bill, so exactly how did you find out about the riot team coming to the hotel? Why don't you provide the email you received or put us in touch with whomever you spoke to on the phone, that's pretty easy right?
And while you are at it, why don't you provide the threatening emails you received from the owner of the joeyisalittlekid blog? Again, should be incredibly easy.
And yeah, Ginger's right, you shouldn't alienate your conspiracy believing members, they are pretty much all you have left.
So Billy realizes the JIG is seriously up after reading some of this blog and goes on NOT to write an 'article' about the new hate blog he found (that would be us according to him) BUT he writes how The Movie will be banned?
DeleteOk there is NO movie you Rolly Polly Round American man! AND you NEVER even spoke to Sundance and don't perceive to understand how they even 'work'.
YOUR PEOPLE FROM yesterday cannot go to Sundance (which starts today) and PLUG a movie that doesn't exist, there's not even any trailers, only boring pathetic non-vetted people speaking about whatever upsets them in the court system.
Usually most don't even describe WHY they're there, like the lady who's son was 'falsely accused' and even her own webpage says how wonderful her little boy is but refuses to describe the conviction in any detail. It took me at least 30 minutes to find his mug shot and his convictions was for sexually abusing children.
In order to submit to Sundance, the LAST submitting deadline was September of 2012.
How he can spin a weave but that weave is utter psychosis!
How cute he posted from Los Angeles Community Hospital this morning. Seriously is he joking?
DeleteBlaming AMPP for THEIR conspiracy theory on Sandy Hook?!?!? Are you fucking delusional dude? I believe that ampp posted a REAL news story about a man being HARASSED by people that were saying this was a "conspiracy" (probably was Julia Fletcher, Mary G, Gail etc.), what the fuck ever! Does he REALLY think that Robert Redford, Mr. Sundance himself, is going to let that fat fuck in his festival?? Sorry, I know I owe in the swear jar G-Snap but this is really so absurd every damn day. He hasn't felt any wrath yet, but he has drawn a line in the sand and I'm about to cross it.
DeleteI Kimberly Wigglesworth used to do Sand Art with the Kids in the Mid 90's to help Raise Money for Newtown Fire Dept. google it you Lot Lizard hopping fat Lying Pie man with no class to make a blog with pictures of Death Father....
DeleteNot to bore again with the same old link to another blog, but I read the whole thing. Old man Windsor even went on there to defend himself, but only made the claims against himself by the posters stronger. He cries the same old thing, slander, libel, lies, blah, blah that he does all the time. Thing people post links as well to disprove his claims.
ReplyDeleteAnyone wondering what the pie guy is really up to should go read his history. Fraud, seems to be the focus.
http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum//viewtopic.php?f=37&t=7690
I don't know if the link will go to page 1 or 2, but make sure you start at 1.
"Thing people post links" Uggh These not thing. sorry
ReplyDeleteOne more interesting point, when Windsor wants to present fake proof of his claims, he posts links to HIS lawless page. These are not evidence to support him, it's just him explaining himself. Still can not provide anyone proof for anything!!!
He's REALLY not going to be happy in about 86 minutes when this video is ready. All for you pie man ;)
ReplyDeleteTHE truth
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSeztZzijMo&feature=youtu.be
ROTFLMAO Perfect!!
DeleteLOL great but not so sure the song fits, word has it he is sleeping with women in exchange for filming them in his movie...just rumours, ...but his wife hasn't been around in a long time....
DeleteYou still think Billy can stand at attention? With his age and all that pie I have my doubts
DeleteI hope that all the pie filling that fat focker has shoved into his pie hole has clogged his arteries and then they can blame AMPP for killing him when he drops dead. Just sayin
ReplyDeleteI love this blog your brilliant. Pie Man has self agenda it is clearly shown when attacking others who well they been around longer than him. If he truly wanted mass numbers or to as he claimed in the beginning bring all together, he sure botched that up.
ReplyDeleteFact we at this org helped support his movie efforts financially, but he never posted our footage, and then again why would he, when it would prove him to be a fake for having claimed someone done something they did not do to him, but merely educated him it was being done by our organization on an annual basis...
How is it us whom work so hard hold credentials even media coverage for works done and in place always get the shaft?
All one has to do to find the answer, is to look at Billy-Boy-Pinocchio, and then the answer is self evident.
Was or is he a spy sent to sabotage a growth within the family and child rights movement from taking place as a strong movement to be reckoned with?
MOST DEFINITELY HE COULD BE SEEN AS THAT AND IS!
Was he sent to distract all suffering a injustice to them from the goal of a parental amendment much needing voice to pass, that would give them right to be seen as parent by all courts not to be interfered with former Senator. Jim DeMint put into place for votes of Congress?
IT APPEARS THAT IS THE CASE SINCE THE BILL HAS BEEN FORGOTTEN BECAUSE OTHERS THINK HE HAS THE RESOLUTION TO OUR PROBLEM BEING FIXED WITH A MOVIE!
And well, if truly wanting change, why does he want parents distracted from this venue to have change that is out there, just waiting on them to take a stand and make it happen, via supporting whats being done already, rather than re-inventing the wheels already made.
He succeeded if so, because their voices of needing it has not been heard!
He to us as a registered and legal setting of NON-PROFIT in opinion is a BIG FRAUD!
We are going to promote this site to try and awaken the dead following him that turned from their own already true cause existent known as the Family and Child Civil Rights Movement.
After all our loyalties lay with Leonard Henderson the grandfather of the movement, who Billy-Boy-Pinocchio is trying to ride the skirt tail of.
Leonard Henderson, founder of American Family Rights Association that is over 40 years old, has no self-agenda, and those of us who are his followers even legally registered advocates, because he is so ill; will take up sword to defend what is real and what is fake about our goals to preserve family in a battle they need not be in!
God bless you for taking a stand against INJUSTICE DISHED OUT!
Hint: SUN DANCE FILM FESTIVAL IS GOING ON IN UTAH WONDER WHERE HIS PICTURES OF ROBERT REDFORD STANDING BESIDE HIM IS FOR THIS SO CALLED MOVIE?
ALSO FIND IT FUNNY MORE WOMEN ARE BEING CONSIDERED FOR MOVIE PROJECTS, NOT MEN, NOT EVEN WINDSOR GOT MENTIONED FOR HIS BIG GIGANTIC MOVIE!
OUCH Billy-Boy-Pinocchio GOT LEFT IN THE DUST ACCORDING TO REDFORD PUBLICLY TODAY THE ABOVE IS HOW IT STANDS FOR MOVIES BEING SERIOUS TO BECOME ONE, WOMEN HOLD THE PURSE NOT HIM!
You mention that you initially supported him financially. I'm curious as to all the details around that, such as how did the topic come up and did he give any terms related to the funding? I think the pie man is all about pie in the outside, but his history would suggested he is all about money under the table while he eats his pie.
DeleteA follower learning pie Man has no copy right owned sent this to the real T.M holders here it is:
ReplyDeleteSteve Lambrecht
since you all have the copyright on Lawless America, take this prick DOWN!
He sent an attachment but it failed ouch. Clearly this is another Windsor Victim.