The War of the Pies update:
So after Windsor backs out of a showdown in Montana that he ordered, Daddy Dauben's new messiah has continued with his paid vacation around the country. He has learned that he needs to use cars with GPS (I guess he still hasn't figured out that he has it on his phone).
He went to Hawaii and now there is a pie shortage in the island state as a result.
Loryn and Connie set up a new facebook page to attack Lawless America.
Another group has out smarted Bill as they have actually made application for the trademark of Lawless America and may force Bill into using another name. The Pie man responds by saying he has the rights to it because of his fake movie on IMBD and that he called it a copyright, even though he never actually did it.
Here is fat daddy's explaination:
L. WILSON, TRINITY BAKER, LISA JONES, AND DIANA GOCHIN COMMIT TRADEMARK FRAUD AND PERJURY:
These lowlife people have formed legal entities in the name of Lawless America, and they have raised their right hand and sworn that no one else has... the right to use the name Lawless America as a trademark. They show first use in November 2012. My first use is at least 2008, and they knew it because they had been served with a cease and desist when they began stealing our property.
These are the same people who stole our confidential database and our January DC dates...the same people who attracted a half dozen people to their DC event.
With their filing, they have committed perjury. Now all we need is an honest judge. Ooops... Well, I will present charges to grand juries in each of their states seeking to have them imprisoned for their crime(s).
These lowlife people have formed legal entities in the name of Lawless America, and they have raised their right hand and sworn that no one else has... the right to use the name Lawless America as a trademark. They show first use in November 2012. My first use is at least 2008, and they knew it because they had been served with a cease and desist when they began stealing our property.
These are the same people who stole our confidential database and our January DC dates...the same people who attracted a half dozen people to their DC event.
With their filing, they have committed perjury. Now all we need is an honest judge. Ooops... Well, I will present charges to grand juries in each of their states seeking to have them imprisoned for their crime(s).
Lawless America is a copyright and our mark. The name has been in use since approximately 2006. Both a copyright notice and a trademark notice have existed on www.LawlessAmerica.com ever since the website was set up. See http://www.lawlessamerica.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=21&Itemid=81
A copyright and trademark notice was also placed on www.facebook.com/lawlessamerica.
The name Lawless America is the title of a movie as well as the title of a political activist movement. It is also the title of a weekly radio and TV show that has existed since 2010. See http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=115884&cmd=tc
The name "Lawless America" is listed in the International Movie Database: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2337260/ -- also the name of a YouTube Channel: www.YouTube.com/lawlessamerica -- also the name of a television channel: www.livestream.com/lawlessamerica
A copyright and trademark notice was also placed on www.facebook.com/lawlessamerica.
The name Lawless America is the title of a movie as well as the title of a political activist movement. It is also the title of a weekly radio and TV show that has existed since 2010. See http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=115884&cmd=tc
The name "Lawless America" is listed in the International Movie Database: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2337260/ -- also the name of a YouTube Channel: www.YouTube.com/lawlessamerica -- also the name of a television channel: www.livestream.com/lawlessamerica
Then he puts back on his Fuhrer hat and issues an edict to his followers:
Lawless America In this sad world we now live in, I know it is a hard concept to
accept, but I always tell the truth....at least I always tell what I believe to
be the truth. So if I say it, you should believe it. Whenever anyone claims I
have lied or done something bad, ask them for proof. When they can't produce it,
you will know they are the liars.
38 minutes ago ·
38 minutes ago ·
Its funny how he needs to ask for proof when someone calls him what he is, but if you would like to slander someone in front of his video camera.....well you can forget the proof just make sure you cry.
Showdow is apparently rescheduled for the 16th and 17th of this week. We are locked and loaded here and ready. I've laid out a trail of specially formulated chocolate pies, with a special ingredient that will keep him busy. He's a lying koward, so I'm not worried.
ReplyDeleteExpect him to really blow up this week, as he, his wife and his son will be Receiving some legal paperwork in the mail. (his wife actually owns LA, and the site is hosted by alcatraz media servers, aka his son) so, its a family of stalkers and crazies.
lol at the pie tail, he won't be able to miss that as he always leads with his belly, both literally and figuratively.
DeleteNot sure what this is about...but it sounds promising!! Can't wait to see some justice bite that fat man in the ass. After all the people he has hurt, lied to, and put in harms way...a little karmic justice is well needed!!
DeleteLoryn says she's getting death threats from LA people now. She made her personal FB page private. Probably a very good idea for her new baby's sake.
ReplyDeleteNot to worry, Bill's going to out them all:
Lawless America As I have said for years, the fundamental problem is dishonesty. I now know that Loryn Ryder is as dishonest as they come. I will attempt to determine if those she has fingered are dishonest. the judge doesn't believe they are. We need people who tell the truth and do the right things. We need to nail every pedophile and every child abuser and every lying biological parent.
Why do these words sound so familiar?
Well in the latest person to attack he posted her picture. I XXXX'd out her last name. He is inciting possible harassment, violence, or who knows what by these constant posts!!! Just one more victim, of Pie Man now public.
DeleteLawless America
31 minutes ago.
THIS IS DIANE XXXX. SHE HAS STOLEN YOUR CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION. PLEASE REMOVE HER AS A FRIEND, AS I WILL TRY TO GET HER PUT IN PRISON.
Do you know they also started a Blog, but you have to leave a ID to Comment, they are looking for another way to stalk people. That Why Bill e-mail is set with Java, anyone who has set him a e-mail can be Hack.
ReplyDeletewhere is the blog?
Deletehttp://justice4dennypetitt.wordpress.com/2012/12/28/lawless-america/
DeleteSo the Hatebreeder Pie Boy makes a post today.
ReplyDelete"LORYN RYDER CONTINUES TO LIBEL AND SLANDER BILL WINDSOR."
By making that posting, he incited more hateful comments from the minions, and one of them even went so far as to start a blog against her, using her own name. This is a grown-ass man, acting like a 5 yr old. This is out of control dangerousness he is creating. He keeps putting innocent lives in danger on purpose. Who does that???
"He keeps putting innocent lives in danger on purpose. Who does that???"
DeleteIn the cast of characters that we follow on here, the answer is all of them.
*face-palm ya, I can see that Ginger Snap!! Sad
Deletethat the blog I was talking about
DeleteIs it just me or is the Pie Molester even more entertaining than Joey?
ReplyDeleteIn terms of which one would I want to listen to on their own radio show, give me Joey all day long. But in terms of how this facebook war is devolving into an all out jerry springer episode, I would say Windsor is.
DeleteI think the Springer show just jumped off the LA FB page into your blog.
Deletesorry
DeleteJoey+alcohol+Blog Talk Radio= good times. hate that he will be forever silenced. Unless of course the DA does not shut down his archives. Bill Windsor on Face Book+A.M.P.P.-iBedwell+Presley's confusion/pie= entertaining reads of pie filled (Banana cream) eating contest featured on youtube with video rights in question.
ReplyDeleteDo you want see something just out of this world...http://www.scribd.com/doc/120053403/American-University-Professor-Fired-for-Reporting-Rape-Death-Threats.
ReplyDelete.......this is the real E-mail she sent me ........................
Kimberly,
I have no idea who you are—I’m sorry for your pain. If Bill from Lawless America believes smear campaigns…. all I can say is he ain’t very bright.
I have zero control over other people’s brain cells. I can only control my own. Over and out. Blessings.
http://www.consciousbeingalliance.com/2012/06/threats-on-facebook-to-rape-women-supporting-protective-mothers/ here is the rape threat I got but lori lied to her people said it was at her and the Death threat came from a man in New York, who is also Helping Lawless. they are all F-ing scumbags....
DeleteI hope they all are sitting in Jail soon
Deleteboth side are talking to Bill Windsor, both side are lowlife scums, Waxman stole a part of my Blog to frame her for naked Pictures of her child and support Teri Stoddard. And Lori Lies to get people to feel sorry for her then Throw you under the bus, when you send her a e-mail asking her to help your lawyer remove the lies about me, that Sarah Posted every were and even called Bill Windsor to help put me on that f-ing List. they are all f-ing sick.
Deletethis is the e-mail Lori sent my lawyer e-mail to Bill@Nobodies.us but here is my real e-mail ...........................................
DeleteI see you cc this to Bill....... wow ....... I have gotten death threat and rape threat because of Waxman and he share my info to Bill Windsor and you are throwing me under the Bus .......wow ...... I am scare for my life and you are doing this to me. I can not stop crying, I can not take anymore of this it need to stop. this is Killing me. it your choice.......I am done
I didn't see that specific e-mail but it appears our own Brandy O posted a comment.
Deletego to the slide show, she posted fake email that she said I sent her and she sent me. I do not know who Brandy O is
DeleteBrandy is probably keeping a low profile until sentencing but I'm hoping after that she will come on here and let loose
Delete@ Gingersnap: Brandy post is dated Dec '11 - nothing recent.
DeleteI'm looking for the other EC site, I knew I should have copied and kept the address. Found it while looking to see if Presley's LA "testimony" was still somewhere out there. If/when I find it again, will e-mail to you.
You know, I hate saying this...
ReplyDeleteBut those folks seem like smoke & mirrors. All show, no backing.
Bill at least listed his sources.
Really I think if people just stopped paying attention to them, they would go away. The fact is he gave those women a mouthpiece.... He listened to them. Joey listened to them. They'll take on whoever will listen to them.
Stop paying attention, and it will all stop.
I really think much of this stuff will be drawing to a close soon.
In 1 month's time, Presley will still probably be gone... Bill's issues will not be important to anybody local... The heat between the "breakup" between the girls and Bill will be burnt out... And Joey will be locked up.
With Joey's voice gone, him being locked up... I'm sure this will all dwindle away, being healed in time.
"Bill at least listed his sources."
DeleteIf having a fullblown pie tantrum and posting names, personal FB links, emails and email address, as well as pictures etc. of the people he was mad at are the "sources" you are mentioning, then that's pretty sad. At no point did I ever see him mention who told him what people to go after and why. Certain people have asked him to "Stop" posting these insane things, and he always says, "NO". He just got his panties in a bunch, and started throwing internet punches. Then when those certain people tried to defend themselves, he attacked again, harder, lower, and nastier,
Nothing the Pie Guy has done up to this point shows him stopping his hateful, vindictive, irrational, and just plain spiteful attitude, because he didn't like what a few people said about him, or that they asked to leave his group, or had questions about something he was doing.
I think there is far more to this story. And IMHO, Bill is not nor has he ever been truthful about anything.
Yep, what you said - he's an artful dodger. He gives whatever response will get him off a hot seat.
DeleteExhibit A: He's very clear in what he thinks of Loryn. "Loryn Ryder is a LIAR, and she is an enemy of Lawless America."
Then Sammie wants to know Bill came to that conclusion: "Sammie Jones How did you discover that she fabricated her story?". Bill can't support his statement so he starts side stepping:
Exhibit B: "Sammie, I don't know if she did." "Let me make it clear that some of those she has accused have approached me to say she is a liar and a manipulator."
And, then back to Loryn is, not just a liar, she's pathological - all within a 3 hour period.
Exhibit C: "This is a sick, sick, sick person, folks. I don't support liars, and Loryn Ryder appears to be a pathological liar."
Other people are starting to figure it out. Followers dropped from 9,890 to 9,818 in less than 24 hours.
How to spot a con man. (http://www.ryanhealy.com/how-to-spot-a-con-man/)
Delete"During my career as a freelance copywriter, I’ve encountered a few exceptional negotiators and a handful of con men.
How do you spot a con man? First, it helps to know the definition.
According to Princeton’s WordNet, con man is short for “Confidence Man: a swindler who exploits the confidence of his victim.”
With that in mind, here are three traits to watch out for.
Flattery
This is the first and foremost thing to look out for. A compliment is normal. Flattery is not.
Whenever somebody flatters me, I watch my wallet. Flattery is normally a prelude to an unusual or out-of-the-ordinary request.
The psychology works like this:
Flattery makes you feel all puffed up and great about yourself. But this is a set up so you’ll agree more easily to whatever request comes next.
You are more likely to make a bad decision when you are feeling overconfident. Flattery is an easy way to build your confidence.
“…a flattering mouth works ruin.” Proverbs 26:28
Bragging
A person who brags is not necessarily a con man; he could just be insecure.
It’s the type of bragging that matters.
Some people brag about how good they are at a specific skill. This is your garden variety braggart, relatively harmless.
Others brag about their good character or how much money they give to their church, poor people, etc. This is your con man variety of braggart.
It is designed to get you to lower your guard… to get you thinking about what a good person it is you’re dealing with. Next thing you know, the con-man lowers the boom.
Watch out for people who brag about their good character.
“But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret.” Matthew 6:3,4
Unrealistic Promises
A common negotiating tactic is to build neediness in the other party.
For instance, a potential client might tell you that there’s “huge” potential, and that you could make “tens of thousands of dollars.”
He’s building your confidence to the point where you believe this future pay-off will really happen.
The next thing he’ll do is ask you to work for free for an indeterminate amount of time. If you believe the vision he’s painted, you might agree to unreasonable terms, work hard for months… then never see a single cent.
“Like clouds and wind without rain is a man who boasts of gifts he does not give.” Proverbs 25:14
Safeguard Yourself
A con man uses all kinds of techniques to build your confidence in yourself and in him. Once your confidence is high enough, you’re in a vulnerable position. That’s how you get conned.
Ask yourself: “Am I feeling overly confident? Why?”
Ask yourself: “Why is this person flattering me? Why is he telling me all about his good deeds? Why is he promising me a huge pay-off somewhere down the road?”
You should post that on LA FB page, might help some those with one foot out to get the other foot out and walk away.
DeleteLOL I am not on that page or I would. However, if I did, then MY name would be part of the attack list, and all the minions would harass me. This is a guarantee!! But, isn't it dead on?
DeleteDo not worry, he put someone elses picture up for me and said the man I am marry to, which happen to be my brother. I sure he will get nothing right about you if he goes on the Attack.
DeleteAnon @6:25 can I copy and paste everything you just wrote I'll add it as a status to his FB page
Deleteoh this is Brannon asking that
DeleteSure, I just copied it from the link I posted. Good information for people who are easily manipulated.
Deleteit's posted, I meant to respond here but responded below...-Brannon
Deletelol, lets see how long Pie Daddy lets that comment go
Deletefor right now I'm just gonna mock em, and everytime they post something I will just copy and post exactly what they posted
Delete-Brannon
@ Anon: are you a friend of Connie's?
DeleteResponse to Brannon:
Debbie Lynn Jesus and you are involved with Connie-Bidwell- tuma!
LOL, awesome. There may be pies-a-fly'n...well that is if his narcissism is at a lull. (or someone else tips him off) LOL
Delete"Narcissism is a generalized personality trait characterized by egotism, vanity, conceit, or selfishness"
Did she delete her comment or just block me -Brannon
Deleteit looks like someone deleted the comment you made
DeleteI just re-typed it, I had deleted it, thinking she had deleted hers, but then realized she just blocked me
DeleteToo funny, look he managed to say Loryn is a liar and he doesn't know if she's lying in the same post:
Delete"Lawless America I read a post that someone sent me where people claim I said I didn't have proof that Loryn Ryder is a liar. That is false. I have absolute proof that Loryn Ryder is a liar. Unquestionable proof. What I do not yet have a view on is whether she has lied about things with her daughter. Others tell me she has. I don't know that for a fact."
Then some people take him to task for being "hateful" and ugly to Loryn. He flips again.
"Lawless America Tina, Loryn is a liar. A LIAR. Saying someone is ugly doesn't fall in the same category as saying someone is a pedophile or a con artist. I don't want people to do like Loryn and you do, and I do periodically ask them to not attack people. I don't have time to post all of Loryn's lies; it would take way too many hours. You've seen them because you pal around with her on Facebook pages. I have previously posted lies by Loryn Ryder, and I will write an expose about her on www.LawlessAmerica.com when time permits. I did previously post the contents of an email that I received calling her a liar and a manipulator"
OMG He is going to write an expose on her? Hasn't he written enough hateful, vindictive things about her already. This dudes pie filling slid straight off the crust and onto the floor. I can't believe anyone is still supporting this loon.
DeleteYeah, he'll write an expose. Right after he finishes writing that Round America book and produces a movie.
DeleteWhat time is court tomorrow for Joey?
ReplyDeleteI don't know, probably first thing in the morning. I guess we know what to expect from the defense...mommy and daddy up there pleading for mercy on their son, I don't fault them for that but how effective is that going to be? Daddy is likely to implode and make the jury even more mad, and Cheri has already been in front of them and they didn't seem to give much weight to her testimony.
DeleteWhat will be really interesting is what the prosecution puts up there. They literally have a treasure trove of information and people who have been harmed by Joey. If they show that jury everything that Joey had become, he really might get 80 years.
Honestly, I may even draw back 20 years and go with 30 years. I just read another story where a 12 year old accused a first time offender (in Texas) of something similar. He was found guilty and got LIFE, and has been locked up for 15 years now... (and this was a 1st time offender)
DeleteYou know... in my faith all I can do is pray for Joey. Pray that this heals whatever is wrong in his life. Pray that he gets out a new man, and makes the best of what he has after this.
I'm also going to pray for the victim, that his healing go smoothly, and that his life restored in which way it can be.
I genuinely feel bad for all parties on this. Joey is going somewhere that is steel & concrete, no air conditioning. Every day he'll get waken at 2:30-4:30am to eat breakfast. Routine strip searches in the indoors and outdoors.
The Victim will forever remember the man who harmed him while he was a child. The confusion while being violated. Wondering "why did my dad have to get drunk and not protect me from a monster".
If this goes how I think it will - Joey very well may get 30 years, serve 20. I don't think he'll get 80.... But lucky The victim I hope goes on with his life, to whatever suits him as success.
All that being said:
Since Joey is a former convicted felon
Since Joey has 4 more felonies (2nd degree)
Since prosecution wants stacked
Since Joey would not recant, apologize etc., after the trial
Since Joey has really never had a job in a long time
Since Joey has no family of his own, children, etc.
If he even gets the chance tomorrow, he should beg for mercy. Fess up. Admit his problem and cry for help. Tell them about being confused all through school of his orientation, and that he never wanted to hurt his father. Tell them all he wants to do is just get a job and be a productive member of society. Tell them he'll never go around children and fully cooperate with any sexual registry conditions.
I'm really mixed on this one. I don't want to see him get 30 years honestly. I really don't want to see him get 10 years. I think with the Ellis conviction, his time spent... He learned his lesson.
If the DA was merciful, he'd give him 10 years probation and sex registry. The DA should ask the accuser too if this would be just.
Joey as much as farts in the wrong direction during 10 years of probation, he would absolutely be toast.
But...
Still I think he gets 30 years.
Your previous relationship is clouding your ability to see what a 'just' sentence should be. (your compassion is to be commended)
DeleteWhy in society do we give so many chances to criminals? Just remember, victims don't get second chances...
Huh? When exactly did "Joey learn his lesson?" Was it when he went to jail in 2011 and suddenly found his "spirituality" after they let him out on bond? Oh, wait. No; because he went right back to defaming innocent people, excpet he went even more bezerk that time. Was it on the stand, when he realized he was toast? Oh, wait. No; because he went after his victim and the kid's missing father.
DeleteJoey Dauben is a con artist, plain & simple. He will never be "rehabilitated", in my opinion. Jail is the only option as it stands right now. Even if he gets the worst of the worst in probation, as long as his mouth can move or his fingers still work, he will continue to cause pain whereever he goes.
That was my thought too. Why would anybody believe Joey has learned his lesson? He lies. And, he's demonstrated his inability to be a productive, valuable member of this society.
Delete@ Jimmy: Tomorrow will be here soon enough and we will all know the sentence. I pray that the God gives the jury the wisdom needed to make the right decision. Past that, there is nothing anybody can do to help Joey. You have done all that you can to help the victim - I believe the energy of those thoughts will reach him and help heal.
Now, there's a great war going on, distract yourself and read FB for a while.
If he gets off lightly it sends a strong message out to the public that it is ok to rape, go ahead and have a good time with it. I hope he gets the full sentence. I will be sorely dissapointed in the system if he does not. It is said that sex offenders commit acts an average of 16 times before they get caught. How many more of these acts has Joey committed? We don't want him out on the streets where he can do it again.
DeleteCourt starts at 9Am -Brannon
ReplyDeleteHey Brannon, have you talked to Joey or the family at all this weekend? Is Joey prepared for what probably will happen tomorrow or are they counting on probation?
DeletePrepared? you can't get prepared for something like going to Prison if he goes, and ya I have hung around him, but everything is up in the air, as far as what will happen
DeleteI don't think you can know all that will happen to you, but I do think you can study up on it and at least try and shock your mind into what is about to happen. I would rather go into it with some sort of plan than just go in shocked and scared.
DeleteBrannon, at least tell Joey to look online for prison tips, and what happens after the trial.
DeleteHe needs to at least look at something to help prepare him. Mainly somebody should tell him to keep his mouth SHUT.
They will probably incarcerate him immediately, unless he requests to turn himself in to the facility.
ya, I think Mr. Webb sent his parents the Survival Guide book thing
Deletek, it's done and posted hahaha this should be fun -Brannon
ReplyDeleteI wonder if every time Pie Daddy puts out these confidentiality breach alerts and tries to pin it on someone, what he is really doing is selling his information database to advertisers and and all those call centers? I certainly wouldn't put it past him
ReplyDeleteLol, now he is calling his own character witnesses to the stand on his FB page. Maybe he realizes that his lemmings are starting to jump off the cliff, if for no other reason than they just can't keep up with everyone they are supposed to block and unfriend on FB, much less why.
ReplyDeletewell, I'm blocked- Brannon
ReplyDeleteThat was quick. I guess that post was too close to home. But, hey, nice try!!
DeleteIt was fun while it lasted.
Deleteeh, ya, I do have another FB account haha
DeleteDidn't Joey use to be Connie's boyfriend?
ReplyDelete2 years ago, he told me about a mother that had a boyfriend that molested her daughter.... I do remember saying that she was "hot" and he got busy with her.
Anyway it was something like that...
DeleteAlso that her dad did some kind of bible code thing, but just for the Torah... I can't remember. (Sorry I have not really read up on these people - perhaps it was just somebody else)
LMFAO!!! Per the Pie Man: "dFolks, I have 50,000+ emails and many hundreds (if not thousands) of voice mail messages. Please do not take it personally when I don't respond. It is way past out of control. I keep trying to get work organized for volunteers, but we haven't made much progress. Lawless America badly needs a full-time employee to direct traffic. Please don't be upset with us if you haven't gotten a response. We will ultimately get to everyone, get everyone filmed, etc. We do now have volunteers who should be able to help you with your needs, so please use these email addresses -- http://www.lawlessamerica.com/index.php?option=com_contact&view=category&catid=12&Itemid=232
ReplyDeleteWe need help from folks who have video editing experience. We have several hundred interviews that need to have 3-5 minute Congressional Testimony extracted from them. If you can edit, please email Nobodies@att.net with the subject in all caps: VIDEO EDITOR. We also need help from folks who have added information to ther Movie Listing Page who will help others add their information. Email Nobodies@att.net with the subject in all caps: MOVIE LISTING HELP."
SOOOOOooooooooo many emails but he only responds to the important ones like the alleged "death threats". What a winner, wants all this "help" for free, perhaps a SOMEBODY and not a NOBODY should?!
Well that is a belly jiggler isn't it? Seems he was able to find this email yesterday and respond today... he is such a liar. He can't even see it, when he makes posts like that, and then posts like this...Doh!!!
DeleteSeems that ol' pie boy was just called out by a PI supporting Loryn. HA!! Read the lame reply from the pie guy at the bottom.
"LATEST LIES AND THREATS FROM LORYN RYDER:"
Another day, another threat.
From: jim peterson [mailto:petersonpifirm@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 11:50 PM
To: Nobodies@att.net
Subject: loryn ryder
We know that you know Loryn's father and you did all this on purpose. I am a PI and know all your dirty little secrets Bill. But do not worry. If you want both sides you will get both sides. You doing this is actually going to get him and matthew pritchard criminally charged. I was Wendy's PI for many years. I finally got video evidence that Loryn's father was torturing her at 16 years old at which point his rights were terminated and her mother won full custody.
I then I began helping Loryn when I found out about her situation. If it were not for you going after loryn unjustly I never would have taken the video tapes I have of Matthew molesting Bella in the bathtub to the FBI. You will soon look ridiculous!
I have arranged for you to take a polygraph as you suggested on your page that you would do if it were free of charge. I have many connections that will accomplish your goal of proving your honesty. Bella's father and Loryn's father both refuse to take polygraphs. Loryn took a polygraph with the Delaware County police department one year ago after people began accusing her of coaching Bella and fabricating the abuse. No deception was found on every question.
I see your post is still up about loryn so I will go public with what I know about you and it wasn't very hard to find out after Loryn told me what was going on. My testimony and evidence will help her tremendously when the law firm I know very well helps sue you for the false statements you are making against two victims who have endured the most horrible abuse imaginable! When you view these videos, whether in court or when I make them public, if you have any heart left at all, you will fall to your knees in horror that you victimized these two girls all over again after what they have already been through.
I hope to hear from you soon,
Jim Peterson.
*****
From: Bill Windsor [mailto:Nobodies@att.net]
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 10:16 AM
To: 'jim peterson'
Subject: Jim Peterson: loryn ryder
Loryn is a liar. Plain and simple.
Produce the evidence of my alleged lies, and I shall be delighted to take a polygraph. Of course it has to be evidence not Loryn’s lies. Produce evidence that I am a con artist. Produce evidence that I am a pedophile. Produce evidence that Loryn responded to my emails (the second one) about American Mothers Political Party. That should get us started.
Oh, and produce evidence that I “know” Loryn’s father and did this on purpose. What a slimeball you are.
@nothing, you posted this yesterday "Other people are starting to figure it out. Followers dropped from 9,890 to 9,818 in less than 24 hours." I also saw that same number, yet for some strange reason, today it says followers are 14,794. Just interesting...
ReplyDeletehe is buying likes, he told his people how great he is and how they want to have 25,000 like before DC, it is part of his con. He is buying them. that why he is using a personal page and not a group page tell people how many are talking about him.
DeleteInteresting. And I even noticed that several of those following him are duplicates. So, yes, that number is not real. SMH
Deletehttp://get-likes.com/ If anyone want to get him close down, just go to facebook Security and rat him out...I will not because I find this blog healing and funny with gindersnap
DeleteOMG, I'm laughing so hard. This blog has now become the source of information for those that are now after the Pie Daddy. Listen to what Bill posted on his FB from a post that I guess was under his radio show. Notice how this person must have gotten most of his info from our site:
ReplyDeleteLawless America And this just in from my TalkShoe page: Full Comment: My wife's sister showed me some of the vile things that this "man" has been posting about domestic violence victims. Everything that comes from his mouth is vitriol and filth. I researched this guy and found out he's a "vexatious litigant" who is banned by the state of Georgia from bringing any lawsuits against any individuals not to mention he apparently likes pie, a lot. He recycles his alleged trademark from his "Round America" pie eating contest to his new vocation of being "lawless america". His threats to all of these women have been noted and if you think that any man that stands behind ANY dv survivor is going to let you get away with this you are wrong! The authorities, both our local and federal have been alerted to your activities. It was quite vindication that some of these law enforcement agencies that they already know about this man et al's activities.
Yep. Funny that Joey and his goons turn to Bill to save Joey and the rest and he turns into Barbra Farris.
DeleteLMAO!!! Oh that is great! Yes, the world of minions who so blindly follow a man, who appears to be crazier and crazier by the minute should cut ties before they become linked to an unstable man, with a vendetta against...um...well there are just so many now...
DeleteIt is nice to see someone understand the harm he has created with all of his postings, and rantings, for women who are possibly in hiding due to abuse.
Now Bill is having to explain to his minions why he is a vexatious litigant. Of course he is putting on his pie cape and pretending like its some sort of heroic honour. I wonder how long until they start asking him why he is touring the country eating pies.
DeleteIt looks like he is setting the stage to play victim and bow out of this scam, wiping his hands clean, but blaming it all on everyone and everything else. Take the money and run......IDK, it wouldn't surprise me. He keeps calling out all of these people, blaming them for what he created and started...now in a post he even said the Government wanted him killed. What a more perfect scam to pull, than to make people who are fighting against corruption believe that he was a victim of some kind of corruption to walk away scott-free. Hook, line, and sinker???
DeleteI still think he is making money off these people's personal information somehow. Because what else is the point? Right now his movie would run like 2 and a half days straight with just the video testimonies alone yet he seems to want to video as many people as possible. He most certainly is not filming a movie, but he is trying to build a database for some reason.
DeleteAnd how confidential is it when he asks for volunteers that he says he will send them hard drives to? I noticed everywhere he goes, people come and bring him food (yes, mostly pies).
DeleteHe's like Joey in that he has an ego bigger than he has brains. He gets other cons like Connie who jump on board because they can continue their crap in new areans. Mix in the mentally ill people with the ones that truly have suffered a wrong in the court system and you have Lawless America.
I know he stole the Air Mile that how he flying all over the place and one of the people that is helping with the State has her taxes file online, someone try to steal it. I am sure but no proof yet they are opening credit cards in people names and going to blame everyone else
DeleteWait this is reminding me..... of me when I defended Joey. LOL LEAVE THE PIE MAN HE IS A FALSE MESSIAH! STOP FOLLOWING HIM YOU FOOLISH IMPS! HE IS USING YOU!
ReplyDeleteSorry Ginger I had to say it. They are lemmings to the cliff not sheep to the slaughter! Why oh why can they not see it.
and yes at one point I defended Joey. Thankfully I saw the truth. Bill like Joey will use people until he has no use for them then he will slander and liable them until they have no name worth defending. The difference is that unlike Joey Bill Windsor is eating pie while he does it
DeleteOk the morning Vodka may not have been such a good idea. Your morning my night time someone send me an email with Joeys time to be served with any restrictions that joey must serve while on parole please. balchspringsbeacon@gmail.com
DeleteDoes anybody know how Michael Spreadbury plays into this?? Somethihing about threatening or harassing Loryn..?
ReplyDeleteHe made a website going after her based on what the pie man said. He even admitted he doesn't know anything about her
DeleteWould you have the link to it?? My dear friend Cox owns and runs michaelspreadbury.com. Spreadbury is just as nutz as Billy...And another great movie maker..LOL beneath the beauty. About half of that one is all about me...
Deletehttp://lorynryder.blogspot.com/2013/01/loryn-ryder-will-be-example.html
DeleteExactly!!! He can incite hatred and anger (possibly violence) in people who know NOTHING about a person, and they just go off and create harm and danger. That to me, is the most dangerous and horrendous thing about pie boy. Oh ya, he is the victim...I forgot!!
DeleteThanks... Looks like the Spreadbury/Cox war has started.... Battle of morons... this should be fun.. Spreadbury is a self confessed convicted felon/stalker extrodionaire.. He is known as the local crazy loon.....
ReplyDeleteMaybe someone should explain to Julia, that it is BILL that keeps the Facebook drama going...he attacked Loryn yesterday in yet another (of how many I have lost count) FB insult fest. When oh when will these people pull their heads out and stop siding with this con man.
ReplyDeleteJulia Fletcher posted to Loryn Ryder
Here's the video of Bill's interview with Doug Millar Please watch this video to see several reasons that Bill Windsor doesn't have time to deal with any Facebook drama for any reason whatsoever. Right now, it's time for all of us to put our differences aside - no matter how difficult it might be, and help Bill expose what our courts and our country have become. Doug Millar says there's the old FBI and the new FBI. That could be the reason - and might be the only reason -family court judges have been allowed to place our precious children with their named, identified and substantiated abusers.
Julia Fletcher is the bone head that started this all,She think a pill popping Lot lizard, and her boyfriend, who the two have been arrested for Assault to forging to drugs to a real hate crime when he was 17 are just flaw. no wonder why she Kisses Bill ass.
DeleteJulia Fletcher aka "Marlene" her REAL name is always trying to get in with the "in" crowd. Her blog/website/faux journalism foray is
Deletehttp://familycourtinamerica.org
She proclaims to be a friend to battered mothers but she is NO friend to any mother, father or child. To continue and stir up her crap is really disgusting.
she used to be friends with a Real good man trying to help Batter mothers, but she threw most of us under the Bus to Kiss Bill ass. http://www.consciousbeingalliance.com/2012/05/a-life-sentence-family-courts-sacrificing-mothers-and-children-in-america/ as you can See the troll is in the comment is Sarah Tyrrel, who Bill is working with. Mr Waxman a big supporter to Teri Stoddard, who has had a her name put into SPLC as being part of a real Hate Group.
Delete@Ginger thanks for the humor. It was needed. @everyone else the humor was also needed. Ok I think I am down for the count I hope.
ReplyDelete@Pie Guy/Pie Molester, I might just go to the sundance film festival SAVE ME SOME PIE!
Do all the people who submit documentaries to Sundance go on to Facebook and lash out at anyone that gives them a bad review? Or do they go like Dauben and get a camera and go make stupid videos with their pudgy buddy?
ReplyDeleteThe picture of Loryn in the blog about her, does anyone else see the resemblance to Skeletor's sister?
ReplyDeleteMy Favorite Lie of Bill is him saying I had no Idea who these people are, two days after he is thanking him for being his new Tech man. I hope his wife is reading this, if you would like to see your husband sidestep and lie. Go ask Him why, that Lot lizard was in his hotel room with him all night after everyone went home. Hmm I know he is a honest Man and cannot lie, so she was there to be save by the new messiah of the All mighty Bill the Pie Man.
ReplyDeleteWhat I find fascinating, is how one minute in a posting, Pie boy sends out a warning with a picture of the woman he is claiming stole everyone's information. Then a few posts later, he is asking for help to edit videos and store hard drives. This is what makes me think he is planning the set up...
ReplyDeletea few day ago he was blaming the woman in the wheel chair for stealing his data base, I agree it is all a shakedown. if you look he has his e-mail set up with Java only. google cybercrime with Java, you will see it is all a setup. that why he went Ape Shit nuts after I told him he has Cybercriminals working his Web site. that why I am on the hit List
DeleteI remember that! Some strange woman coming to his door late that night. Washington could not tell a lie when he cut down that cherry tree but Pie Man will tell you with cherry pie filling smeared all over his face he didn't eat that pie!
ReplyDeletethis was in CT..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJsNeiytJoQ&noredirect=1 Subpoena the Hotel Tape; you can see her going in and out of his room to smoke..It is kinda funny, because they are both saying they do not know each other. She live at another Motel with her BF that Bill Name as his Tech guy. They are running his web page. this is her Page http://www.corruptct.com/help-us-fight-corruption-in-ct/....then go to Pie man post about AMPP being a hate group, she posted that Bill is this good guy and she does not know him. when this goes to Court it going to be so funny
DeleteOMG....HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Nope, ya just can't make this shit up!!!
ReplyDeleteLawless America updated his cover photo.
40 minutes ago.
Yes, Bill Windsor has a special fondness for pie.
It happened by accident. My wife and I planned to take a trip one day in which we would drive around the country on two lane roads with no set itinerary or schedule. We would not eat at chain restaurants; we would eat where the locals eat. That would usually be a little cafe, and all small town cafes have pie.
The pie was not the focus of the planned trip at all, but for years, our friends would ask us "when are you going on your Pie Trip?"
When we finally got ready to take the trip in 2003, I printed up business cards that said: "We are driving to all 50 states writing a book about the places we go, the sights we see, the people we meet, and the pie we eat." We handed these out everywhere, and the vast majority of people we spoke with zeroed in on pie.
So, we made a point to follow those leads and eat pie in every state. It added a special dimension to the trip. And I am now forever tagged with being a pie lover. That beats a lot of things you could be labeled with.
I want to thank all the people who brought pie when I visited your states on the Lawless America Movie Road Trip.
www.LawlessAmerica.com www.YouTube.com/lawlessamerica www.facebook.com/lawlessamerica http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2337260/ — with Bill Windsor and Lawless America at Los Angeles Convention Center.
LoL, so he is embracing his new name. It wont be long before he comes apart, this blog is now controlling the dialogue between him and his minions. Once they finally find us over here it will be all over.
DeleteLOL, I wasn't sure he was admitting to his nick-name, or just thanking people for giving him more pie. LOL *Homer Drooling.....mmmmmmmmm piiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
ReplyDeleteSo LA decided to post the email on his lawless page, as a comment to the earlier post from the PI that said he represents Loryn. Loryn sent him the following, asking him to talk to her before he automatically assumes things.
ReplyDeleteLORYN-OMG-GIRL have you NOT learned that he will post everything to the public. DO NOT SEND HIM ANYTHING.
(Oh, and here he goes again getting this email, while blowing off the hundreds or thousands he just can't see to get to.)
Lawless America Email from Loryn Ryder singing a different tune: "I have been trying to stay off of Facebook and focus on my hearing tomorrow, but I am constantly getting phone calls from people telling me what you are posting about me. Your latest post about someone named Jim Peterson is untrue. I do not even know anyone by that name. You have every right to post whatever you want because I have made my case public in an effort to save my daughter. I am simply asking that you verify your story with me before you go claiming that it is something that I have done. As you and many others know, who deal with corruption on this level, there are people who will come out of nowhere and do inappropriate things. I do not know where all of this hatred for me came from, but please make sure what you are saying is 100% correct before you go damaging someones reputation, especially when it involves a minor child."
we have his Address, and I can get a Fake Barney costume, I wonder how much money, I can raise to sit in front of his House passing out Leaflet to his wife friend walking by the house, About his support of the pedophile or how he like to make hit list of DV women because he did not like hearing about the criminal or lot lizard that is working for him.Just ask your Lot lizard Friends, if I did not do it to DCF Director here in CT, if I would not do it to you. Maybe I will bring a small TV with it looping Pie Man saying he is a pedophile. I know your Wife would love that
ReplyDeleteI will be wearing a sign that said Hook if you hate pedophile.
Deletehere is your address...... http://www.ripoffreport.com/travel-services/round-america-bill-w/round-america-bill-windsor-d-5ap3c.htm
DeleteLMAO Oh, his reply to this 2005 Rip off report is classic pie man. (And it took him 3 years to notice it. LMFAO)
Delete"I am quite confident that this is a competitor who is slandering and libeling my company and others. I believe it should be illegal for RipOffReport to continue to allow people to publish false, malicious, damaging anonymous claims designed to damage companies such as ours. I believe what this "reporter" has done is clearly slander and libel and will prove to be a violation of fair business practice laws as well as tortious interference laws. I will be filing a John Doe Lawsuit against this "reporter" so we can subpoena RipOffReport to provide the identity of this dishonest person so the John Doe can then be replaced with the name of the guilty party."
Why not just make up campaign signs for him instead? Vote Bill Windsor for Pedophile Magistrate! Bill says, "I am a pedophile, I am a pedophile lover"
Deletehis wife own the company, just like every con artist, they hide the money to make it harder when they get sued. I just feel if you make her a Fool of a pedplile lover, then maybe he stop the hit list, before someone get killed.
DeleteFrom la fb."LAWLESS AMERICA TALKSHOE SHOW TONIGHT AT 10 PM EASTERN TIME:
ReplyDeleteIf you are a Nobody or a Lawless America Revolutionary, please tune in.
If you are associated in any manner with the American Mothers Political Party, WTP FPR, Sean Boushie, the University of Montana, or Govabuse.org, or a hate group of any type, you are not invited, and your presence may be considered cyberstalking."
Man this sean guy must be one nasty badass sob...:) could anyone with a better stomach than I let me know what kind of threats he makes? I can listen in.
lol......LAWLESS AMERICA TALKSHOE SHOW TONIGHT AT 10 PM EASTERN TIME:
ReplyDeleteIf you are a Nobody or a Lawless America Revolutionary, please tune in.
If you are associated in any manner with the American Mothers Political Party, WTP FPR, Sean Boushie, the... University of Montana, or Govabuse.org, or a hate group of any type, you are not invited, and your presence may be considered cyberstalking.
http://www.lawlessamerica.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1270%3Alawless-america-movie-road-trip-show-with-william-m-windsor-monday-january-14-2013-from-10-midnight-eastern-time&catid=133%3Alawless-america-the-movie&Itemid=105
but it ok, to support con artist that is going to rip you off blind...........lol
DeleteNow that JoJo is off to prison, the pie man cometh
ReplyDeleteOh yes, the pie man cometh! Cometh with more lies and b.s. He posted this on his fb page. He and or his moron minions post things out of context. I saw Loryn Ryder post this, not AMPP, but Pie Mans hard on for AMPP seems to ALWAYS win out over a clear thinking brain. First, he claims that it was AMPP who started bad mouthing him, when it was a woman who just posted comments on their page. Then he said it was AMPP who said Boycott LA, when again, it was someone else. Then he posted another lame story about how AMPP said the movie wouldn't make sundance, and posted an email from a single person that was sent to AMPP, AMPP didn't generate it. Now this one below. AMPP did not say this, they reposted it perhaps, but it was LORYN. LIES, LIES, LIES, yaaa, their gonna get you...(Thompson twins)
ReplyDeleteLawless America
9 hours ago.
MOVIE ABOUT BILL WINDSOR TO BE PRODUCED BY CONNIE BEDWELL AND THE AMERICAN MOTHERS POLITICAL PARTY.
American Mothers Political Party: Who is Bill Windsor? Whoever he is I can tell you that just you and I combined have more supporters than he will ever have. Add all the other people he’s screwed over and right there is a huge following and I think it’s time that WE make HIM the STAR of OUR movie
Connie Bedwell-Tuma Lights, camera action
January 9 at 10:54pm
Connie Bedwell-Tuma And to answer your question, a sick old man that clearly acts like an abuser, flipping his own disgusting behavior and lies on his victims... PUKE. He will get his for what he is doing to you and Bella.
(Posted on Connie Bedwell Tuma Page) lol
Wait didnt she flip on Joey?
ReplyDeletemy bad it was Presley that flipped on Joey and Connie
DeleteAfter all the trash talking she, Loryn, and Pressle did about AMPP, I highly doubt they are BFF's. All three of them acted like AMPP had the plague when Ball-less Bill came charging out of his bullpen, flared nostrals and all. After Bill kicked them all to the curb, without asking questions, I think Ampp felt felt sorry for them , and wrote a piece stating that none of them are affiliated with them. Instead of being grateful they threw a tantrum as well and lumped AMPP into the pedo lovin group with Billy. Not cool in my opinion.
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