Thursday, February 27, 2014

SAY WHAT???



By NBTDT

Bill Windsor said:   “I am not now and never have been a so-called ‘sovereign’.    Anyone making such a claim to the FBI or anyone else is making a false accusation and is defaming me by trying to link me to radical groups.”      Well, maybe Bill is not a ‘sovereign’ as he understands the term.  But it is a fact that GRIP and Lawless America were formed by Bill Windsor to take action based on the political views and methods of change advocated by several radical groups.  

Webster’s defines radical as:   very new and different from what is traditional or ordinary, having extreme political or social views that are not shared by most people.    And, a: very different from the usual or traditional:  extreme  b:  favoring extreme changes in existing views, habits, conditions, or institutions, c:  associated with political views, practices, and policies of extreme change, d:  advocating extreme measures to retain or restore a political state of affairs.     

For the sake of argument, let’s say the overwhelming majority of American people do not share the view that it is a good idea to form Citizen Grand Juries to oust elected and appointed judiciary, government and law enforcement officials from office for treason, with threat of forced compliance through deployment of militia groups and possibly a death sentence.    Given that the majority of people do not share that vision, any individual or group that does share and support that vision would fit the definition of radical.   

All through this blog we have made connections between several radical groups and Bill Windsor.    So, I put a list together (though, not exhaustive) of the individuals and groups linked to Bill Windsor that, in my opinion, are radical by definition.     Again for the sake of argument:  the term SovCit is used broadly in the list below, to include groups or individuals sharing views similar to Bill’s and each other, on the Constitution, politics and how they want to affect change in the government and judiciary.      

Starting with the CC2009, Bill has direct connections to several state delegates and/or signers of the Articles of Freedom.

Continental Congress Articles of Freedom: http://www.schroederforsenate.com/notes/2012/02/AOF_20100402.pdf

Alaska – Schaeffer Cox:  Alaska Citizens Militia and SovCit

California – Orly Taiz: Birther and SovCit

Connecticut – Deborah Stevenson: SovCit

Iowa – Michael Angelos: SovCit

Maine – Wayne Leach & Jack McCarthy: SovCits

Michigan – David Schied: SovCit

Missouri – Ray Herron: SovCit

New York – Robert (Bob) Shultz: SovCit, Birther and Militia

Pennsylvania – William Taylor Reil: Sovcit

South Carolina – Karen Ruff: SovCit
http://shermaninstitute.info/ (Bio on page with Schied who lists Lawless America in his bio)

South Dakota – Justin David Shultis: SovCit


Texas – Michael Badnarik: SovCit

Texas – Jon Roland: SovCit and Militia

Edgar Steele: Aryan Nations

Delegates to CC2009 with connections to Bill, David Schied and Jon Roland, were on the GRIP Steering Committee and were state Coordinators.    Bob Shultz was asked to be on the steering committee. 

Others involved with the start-up and organization of GRIP and Lawless America are: 
George Mcdermott: SovCit

Arnie Rosner: SovCit

Diane Gochin: SovCit

Denise Loughlin: SovCit

Phil Stimac: SovCit

Ron Branson: SovCit

Rod Class: SovCit, Militia and “Private Attorney General”

Other individual and group connections to Bill Windsor:  

Stephanie Strong: SovCit

Gene Paulson: SovCit

Carl Swennson: Birther, SovCit and Militia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcxa3sh5qHM (announcement of formation of Citizens Grand Juries that have returned indictments for treason) 

Bob Hurt: SovCit  

Richard Fine: SovCit
http://www.richardfinelaw.com/

Robert Fox: SovCit (and Canadian Fugitive)

Veronica (Niki) Hannevig:  SovCit

National Liberty Alliance: SovCit




98 comments:

  1. One word "BOOYA!"

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    1. I agree. Awesome article.
      Sets them up per state, just like Bill said he wanted people heading each state.

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  2. Marty must feel left out. Again.

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  3. This is a condensed list because marty ate the other half

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  4. What exactly do you think this proves? Do you have any evidence that Windsor actually said he was a SC or a supporter of the SCs? How do you define "direct connections" to a political group?

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    1. He says he is a political leader. He needs to be prepared to answer these questions for himself. Suing people for asking intelligent questions is not the sign of a mentally competent person.

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    2. @ 5:34 - Snoozan? Well, whoever - put on your reading glasses and try again, this time more slowly. From the top.

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    3. Here's an idea: STOP FEEDING THE TROLLS!

      Don't respond or reply, just have the site admins wipe their poops from the site every morning, Soon, they're find greener bridges to live under.

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    4. Anon 6:49, who are you to speak to others here in such a condescending tone?

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    5. Who are you to to assume it's condescending? Oh right...you're the troll.

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  5. I read it from the top and I clicked on all of the links in each of the first three categories.

    I do not find anything that proves a "direct connection" between Windsor and any of the "radicals". How does printing an article about some crazy Alaskans mean he is connected to or agrees with those people?

    What about Orly Taiz? I see Windsor mentioned her on LA and he had her speak on his show. How does that mean he is connected to or agrees with her?

    All of these groups share the belief that our government needs to be changed. But each group is pursuing that change in a different way. The fact that these groups might take an interest in each other's activities, does not mean they approve of or are "directly connected to" those activities.

    How do you define "direct connections"?

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    1. I'm visiting and posting on this blog. Does that mean I am "directly connected" to it in the sense that *I* should be labeled a Joey? Does it mean people can correctly state that I share the values and agenda of the "clubhouse" here?

      Your argument is that there is guilt by association. Some people may allow their perception of things to be swayed by that theory, but such assumptions do not constitute proof of anything in court.

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    2. Oh man, you mean Windsor's civil conspiracy case is specious? Someone outta' tell 'em!

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    3. snoozan did actually want to be a joey, but then not many people cared about what she had to say and thus she is just a troll now

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    4. He has been told that a great deal of his conspiracy claims are specious. Others are valid.

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    5. Snoozan will never accept this article, because SHE was with Windsor when the formation of GRIP started. She supports this ideology. Anything she says is a direct side step distraction and nothing more. I swear she sounds just like Sharon Galloway.

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    6. "All of these groups share the belief that our government needs to be changed. But each group is pursuing that change in a different way. "

      Uh, no they aren't. Each agenda is just a slightly different version of the same thing. Your view is dissenting because you are uninformed. Or, you don't want your group to be labeled as a Sovereign Citizen. And of course, you are a troll.

      I would accept and probably agree with you that Bill's posting of Cox's story is benign, if Bill wasn't threatening to have Judges arrested and tried for treason. And he supports the death penalty for treason. Did Bill state that Cox's idea wasn't the way to go? No. Instead, he interviews Cox's attorney's wife who has claims of corruption.

      And the fact of the matter is Bill lied. He not only supports the Sovcit agenda, he promoted it.

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    7. Lemme ponder this...hmmm... I'll use an analogy!
      I put an evergreen tree in my living room in December.
      I decorate it. I put out my reindeer feeder & hitching post.
      I make a list of items I'd dearly love to have bestowed upon me, put that list in a sweetly worded letter, put a stamp on it & send it to the North Pole.
      I behave as much as possible.
      Christmas Eve, I make sure the fireplace is tidy, I bake cookies, I arrange them carefully & put them on the coffee table with a big glass of milk. I set out reindeer food. I go to sleep with visions of sugar plums & a shiny new bike.

      BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE IN SANTA CLAUSE.

      Just the same as Windsor isn't committing paper terrorism, stalking, harassing people that have never been aware of him, just like he never discussed in printed words or on his TalkSnitShow about Citizens Grand Juries or charging judges with treason...

      Yeah, we'll go with your arguments Willy Loving Anon. It really doesn't matter how much you hop up and down, he'll only be delighted to sue you, not pay any other mind to you or your two faced spew. He already knows you been over here, trying to swipe the Mike's Hard Lemonaide & sitting in the hammock on Ginger's porch. You're wearing your browser smooth ass out, clicking back & forth between here & your Willy's www's & his FakeBook page. Even he don't want you, & he's pretty desperate for ANY attention! Shit fire! He even pats Nancy & MaryD on the head occasionally! He even included MaryD in his Texas Vexi mess! Face it, F**knut, your ass out no matter how much bandwidth, keystrokes & CAPSLOCK you can muster.

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    8. Yup. It that attitude there, the one that you're entitled to speak your opinions? Your beliefs? That'll get you vexi-ed, duh.
      Santa Claus!!!!!!

      #giveherafencepost

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  6. Everyone knows snoozan secretly wants to be one. Why else would she keep coming over here, although I guess, her great leader won't give her the attention she needs. She then has to come over here, and try to get what attention she can. Oh and Im sure Bill will one day sue you to, so don't worry.

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    1. I agree, and I add, sounds like someone is attempting damage control.

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    2. It's been a rough week. Some of us more than others.

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    3. Yeah I guess when all else fails - use the old double standard trick. She and Bill have declared all contributors to the blog guilty of all things they don't like. Then in her defense of Bill she says we can't lump him in with the others.

      She completely ignores the fact that Bill recorded himself spewing, and he wrote, about over throwing the government. And he recruited others to help him. He took a leadership role - his words, in executing the SovCit agenda. That, IMO, is a tad bit more than just an association. He may not like being called a SovCit. And truthfully, I don't think he started out 'all in' on the SovCit agenda. But if it quacks like a duck...

      Or in this case, as Sluggo pointed out the goose stepping: If it honks like a goose...

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    4. " We do not make joint statements or declarations."

      Neither do the individuals posting on this blog. Yet, you lump all in one group, i.e. GENII.


      "I am calling you out on your baseless accusations. It's not about Bill, it's about the GENII's tendency to carelessly make serious allegations about others"

      Bill denied any link to any radical group, that is not true. And as far as I know you aren't anybody's mother here, so correction and censorship are not your job. I don't think anybody would mind debating an issue with you if you didn't make personal attacks and unfair judgements when you have no viable argument.


      "Direct me to this evidence so that I can recognize it as such!"

      You are a bossy little troll. I don't take or follow orders. If you want something find it yourself. There is plenty of material on the web regarding the background of Bill's associates which supports the origination of the ideas and statements Bill publicized. Believe it or not. What you witness and recognize or don't couldn't matter less.

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    5. NB, do some research on Sharon Galloway, it will all be clear then.

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    6. Here we go...finally...has the veil been pierced? Coming this Spring to Joey TV...it's Supertroll, SVG.

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    7. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJTWI7-z_nc

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  7. All of you need to pay attention to this constitutional law professor...

    "Mary Deneen Under the lst Amendment of the US Constitution - others can not aide and abet (HIPAA) of 1996 violations w "knowingly-willful" (Fraud, Fictitious, False) Statements at Federal law w/ defamation, libel, slander, discrimination, intimidation and aggravated assault w conscious intent to inflict emotional, mental and bodily harm by and thru threats w/ use of dangerous weapons (sent and received across state lines.)"

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  8. Only if David Schied would had slowed down instead of speeding past that trooper who had a car pulled over on the freeway shoulder. Things would be different maybe for him.

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    1. If you traverse back? He's not the only #SovCit that chose this path over earth shattering shit, like traffic violations! Those pesky troopers are just decimating the Republican/Democratic parties!

      #GoTeamLE

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  9. At about 0:29 Bill gives hints and tips on gaining access to Grand Juries. Then David Schied talks with Bill about forming Citizens Grand Juries and the need for militia to support the assemblies. Schied said Citizens Grand Juries are being formed at the county level, rather than the National Level like Tim Turner tried.

    Then there is a lot of discussion that sounds a lot like paper terrorism.

    http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-115884/TS-602967.mp3

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    1. Tim Turner

      http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/profiles/james-timothy-turner

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guardians_of_the_Free_Republics

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    2. I will listen to this tomorrow.

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  10. Re: William M. Windsor v. Fulton County et al
    by wserra » Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:53 am

    Windsor is a sovrun nutjob. The only positive thing to be said for him is that he does not appear to be a promoter - he doesn't (AFAIK) charge others for the privilege of providing them sovrun nutjob advice.

    His spin is worthy of a politician. As CKB writes, he is a vexatious litigant. Nonetheless, he brays on his blog (careful - while I didn't detect any malware, I think he hosts his blog on a Commodore 64, because it takes a long time to load) that "On September 23, William M. Windsor won approval for this lawsuit to decide the rights of Georgia citizens with Grand Juries". There is a little more to it than just that.

    Those with PACER access, run Windsor in GA. Not only does the guy file frivolous civil suits, he appeals everything. His appeals are quickly dismissed, usually as being from non-appealable orders. That doesn't stop him. Finally, this past June, Judge Thrash of GAND entered this order:http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=7690

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    1. Read also the smug response Windsor wrote on that blog. Has he tried to sue them too?

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    2. I would bet a whole pie, that Windsor has an ulterior motive for attacking this blog and the commenters, aside from just being butt hurt. Baron and Margetis. (Google should also know one of those names well.) Ah, the plot thickens...
      Thicker plot...Boushie finding this blog, and the fact that Crystal Cox and Eliot Bernstein have been attacking Boushie and others (Windsor also is or has targeted) for years. Lets see...Cox is one of his technical people, and Bernstein is all over his group/fb friends.

      Coincidence? I think not.

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  11. An SPLC Video http://youtu.be/d_y-gLm9Hrw

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  12. Lawless America is literally linked to Dr. Edward Viera.

    http://www.lawlessamerica.com/index.php?option=com_weblinks&view=category&id=19:other-resources&Itemid=11&limitstart=45

    Dr. Viera is Aaron Bolinger's mentor. Bolinger is an instructor at RSI (David Schied co-founder) and Legislative Director for the "Restore the Republic" movement. Dr. Viera supports state secession. In the youtube video with Alex Jones attached below, Dr. Viera's opinions sound like nothing more than states exerting state's rights. Something like Colorado legalizing marijuana in spite of federal laws.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyJYpI71h20&index=38&list=FL-lIRhre1A5KGKYXAvH6HRg

    But Bolinger joined a group called Christian Exodus. That group moved a much of constitutionalists to South Carolina with the goal of secession and forming an independent Christian nation.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Exodus

    The General Congress (which gave birth to CC2009) appears to think Dr. Viera could be more direct about citizens power to arrest politicians, but the Oath Keepers appreciate that Dr. Viera considers gun control treasonous.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLGwqDjkgIg

    http://constitutionalgov.us/pipermail/generalcongress_constitutionalgov.us/2013-November/028935.html

    http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2013/04/01/dr-edwin-vieira-jr-presents-dare-call-it-treason/

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    1. Dang: my apologies to Dr. Edwin Vieria for misspelling his name all the way through my post. So much for proof reading.

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  13. I want to know why is it that Bill Windsor always upgrades everything. He makes a hearing a trial and a complaint to the police department a charge? My opinion is that he is just wanting to hype it all up for headlines. Misconstured ones if that.

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    1. This comes now? As a revelation?
      You're new, Anon?

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  14. I heard that Bill Windsors own followers believe he is a public figure. This is great :-)! I love it. When you run for US house of Representatives, You hope everyone knows your name. That is a public figure. What comes with being a public figure is people like Late Night, TMZ, and millions of others talking about you and even millions of negative remarks. How will you sue all of them? For the million people you want to convince with the propaganda documentary to convince people to join the lawless america revolution so you can take back America, there is going to be another 10 million who oppose your plan. I am one of the 10 million strong.

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    1. Yea Bill wants it both ways as usual. He wants to be the leader of a nationwide group who wants to overthrow our government. He wants to go around calling hundreds if not thousands of our judges and elected officials corrupt and criminals guilty of treason, and without one shed of evidence whatsoever. But if you speak out against him it defamation.

      He even admits to his followers that he is a limited purpose public figure. That would be like Obama trying to sue people for making demeaning pics of him and calling him a liar and a fraud. It would be laughed out of court. If you can't handle the criticism, and bill clearly can't, don't step into the public arena

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    2. And when you demand that Congress hold hearings on your version of judicial corruption, and threaten that if they don't you will start to hold citizen grand juries and begin to convict them of crimes....you are engaging in paper terrorism. Now just because ultimately Bill was bluffing, doesn't mean his followers knew it was all a game. Ask his follower Gene Paulson if he knew that Bill was just kidding? He now faces 7 years in prison for doing exactly what Bill told him to do.

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    3. Ditto all of the above. Bill was confident in asserting his opinion of what is criminal, how to solve the problem and leading individuals to follow his examples. He was out in front of this agenda, by design. It's too late for back peddling.

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    4. Actually, IMO, Bill did more than lead individuals into a revolution. He manipulated people with a "help me help you" approach. He demanded that his followers complete certain tasks to make a movie, control the internet, prosecute officials and form Citizens Grand Juries.

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  15. http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-115884/TS-611105.mp3

    This is a relevant Talkshoe broadcast. Bill says he expects Richard Fine to be listening in. He will be in touch with Fine to discuss Grand Juries and RICO. David Schied, Carl Swensson and Ron Branson are on the call. Bill says he is going to talk about how to get around the gate keepers for existing Grand Juries, then Schied, Swensson and Branson are going to talk about forming De jure Grand Juries.

    At about 0:16 Bill claims he is a Grand Jury Consultant. He puts the title on his e-mails to keep “these jerks” from accusing him of unauthorized practice of law. Then he spends the next 3.5 hours giving instructions in how to ambush a Grand Jury and how identify and bring charges against government officials and the judiciary for criminal acts covered by RICO and USC Title 18. Schied, Swensson & Branson do not get a chance to talk. The last 45 minutes got really weird, it sounds like Bill was fed up and just hit the disconnect button – didn’t even say goodnight.

    Some stand out points:

    Bill says, in presentment to Grand Juries, he wants the prosecuting attorneys to ignore him. If he is ignored, that is a criminal act. Then he can bring charges against the prosecutor and the prosecutor can’t be in the room when he testifies. Bill says he is gathering evidence, so he will file as many cases as he can – every time he is ignored or there is a ruling against him, it’s just more evidence of wrong doing.

    Bill talks about controlling the internet (1:54) through manipulation of search engines using LA.com and the GRIP site. He encourages the listeners to set up web sites in the name of whoever did them wrong. He said Google search engine loves links so he will link to their sites – so that all groups that are involved in the same thing will be linked together.

    Bill is running for Congress at that time. He said he doesn’t really want to be a Congressman. But wants to be elected because that would put him in a position to start impeachment and investigative proceedings.

    At 1:05, in giving instructions to get around Grand Jury gate keepers Bill talks about intimidating clerks with threats of criminal charges. Which sounds exactly like what Randy Due did. Bill published a paper written by Due (of Pelham, GA), in which Due accuses judges and government employees of paper terrorism.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_G7N0cBtC0g

    http://www.lawlessamerica.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1173:virtually-every-judge-in-america-regulartly-commits-crimes&catid=25:judicial-corruption-and-dishonesty&Itemid=222

    http://bartowpatriots.ning.com/profile/RandyDue

    With regard to De jure Grand Juries, even though it wasn’t discussed in this broadcast, it is important to note the term is interchangeable with common law and citiziens Grand Jury. Formation of De jure Grand Juries and the ousting of all 50 state Governors was the plan for Restore America, the brain child of Tim Turner, Sam Kennedy and Clive Boustred (which were associates of Schied and Roland through the Continental Congress).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV1LF6fsv6Y

    And there is a funny part: at 2:29 somebody with an open line fell asleep during Bill’s lecture and started snoring. The snoring continues for about 10 minutes and gets quite loud.

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    1. Wow, that is some great information NBTDT.

      I get a running theme here. Windsor told the lemmings not to expect anything from their DC trip. What he didn't tell them was that he didn't go through the proper channels of setting anything up correctly. He wanted to make sure they got signatures of anyone who received the packets though, as his "evidence" they were being put on notice. He gave them around 30 days to respond and start investigations or he said he would be filing charges against them.

      This seems like a running theme with Windsor. Don't follow the rules, write about how corrupt everyone is, threaten them, and attempt to intimidate everyone with the threats of lawsuits. His "evidence" is his twisted perception on how set people up.

      He wants to lose. He has nothing "colorable" but it gets him in the door of the courts. Then upon further investigations, he loses. Then he takes that "evidence," puts it out on the WWW crying about how all these "corrupt" people aided and abetted the "wrongdoers." It is all a false illusion to garner support from all the other anti government people.


      He said the point of the "movie" was to get followers for his "Revolution." He had no intention to help or change anything for any of the people he filmed. He just wants them to remain blind and angry so they keep supporting him. He needs them to get his plans off the ground, get their hand picked people in each state, teach their followers on their protocol for their grand juries, and then use his manufactured "evidence" to hold everyone in the US who has written, said, ruled against, served him bad pie, cut him off on the freeway, or just annoyed him in some way, guilty of treason for pissing him off.

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    2. Thank you, Ninja.

      And, yep. I think you nailed it.

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    3. "This seems like a running theme with Windsor. Don't follow the rules, write about how corrupt everyone is, threaten them, and attempt to intimidate everyone with the threats of lawsuits. His "evidence" is his twisted perception on how set people up."

      Bill harps and harps and harps about judicial orders being void if they are without seal and signature of the clerk. But as Bill publicly announced recently, he doesn't see anything wrong with physically stalking and presenting official looking court documents to intimidate, threaten and coerce anyone he has been told offended him.

      IMO, Bill's TX complaint and claims of damages appears to be extortion and blackmail.

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    4. Great point. I was thinking the same thing. He will bitch about it being done to him, but has no problems knowingly sending out things to people that aren't legit. "Blackmail and extortion" seems exactly right IMO as well. Here, sign this, or give me the names of people to sue, and I won't sue you. However I reserve the right to sue you anyway, because I am Windsor and I can and I don't care if I have the right people named or not, I am simply "Fishing" anyway, and gathering as many names as humanly possible to make my meritless claims look important.

      (Oh, but don't forget, he will schedule his "surgery" sometime in the near future to buy some time to stall in this case. Or, there will be some other drama... He will need to regroup and rethink his next strategy. Games. Windsor loves to play games at the expense of others, and that is really sick. He is the ultimate "sick-o" IMHO)

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    5. Yeah, and how do we Bill is not collecting the names of people to charge with treason after the Revolutionary Party takes over? Bill's whole program reeks of McCarthyism.

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  16. Here is an e-mail between string between George McDermott and Jon Roland, posted by Bob Hurt. This was shortly after CC2009.

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/lawmen/E4ecqAkEJs8/8P65mJ0i940J

    Roland tells McDermott:

    Uniting groups is a good idea, and we are trying to do that, but we are impeded by the fact that all groups don't share a common understanding of the nature of the beast, like The Blind Men and the Elephant.

    McDermott responds with:

    There must be someone out there, who has the expertise to show the various groups leader's , all fighting for a Common clause The preservation of life liberty and pursuit of happiness in a nation that WAS formed under the law, To be Governed by the law, And whoes JUDGGS are responsible for adhering to the laws and Constitution contained therein.

    John and others put aside our differences, put aside our egos and let us all work for one common cause. Divided we will definitely fail. United are options are limitless.


    Hurt, McDermott and Roland all taped interviews with Bill. My question is, did Bill see the same need and just "took a leadership role" to unite the groups and over throw the government or was he asked to fill the role?

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    1. Pretty sure this is where "Susan Harbison" (allegedly AKA Sharon Galloway) said they didn't pick him as "leader" he just took it upon himself and ran with it.

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    2. Ahhhh, yes. Thank you for the reminder.

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    3. Does the plot thicken further, yet?
      Why is it that Windsor has not begun his Internet radio broadcasts, as he promoted to his few remaining followers back in January? Is there trouble brewing? Or has it already blown, and Windsor has been left out to continue pursuing his personal "hater hunts"?
      It's been 'rumored' that there are more email strings that 'leaked' out, between several of the aforementioned, excluding Windsor, that discuss disappointment in Windsor's "performance". Seems the vetting of one another among these groups is, um, hmmm? Lacking.
      Facebook LIKES and followers isn't the only support that has diminished for Windsor, it seems. He's busy chasing down those that may or may not be Joey Doe naysayers? He may should have been really concerned about the naysaying with those he was rubbing elbows with just two to three short years ago. They had real plans and definite goals to achieve. Windsor's inabilities to finish anything, his blatant ignoring of calls and emails reminding and encouraging him to 'focus', his endless personal dramas? "Very frustrating".
      Maybe Ms Harbison (allegedly AKA Sharon Galloway) would be so kind as to drop an essay into the comments' section here in this forum, describing whether these rumors have any "colorable claims"?

      Sign me,
      Anxiously Waiting

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    4. George is another one who tried to run for office and failed. Sharon appears to be the one propping him up. She says she's 100% disabled but she still feels she can write legal documents.

      As Maryland Court Watch, they attempted to do on a smaller scale what Bill said he would do on a large scale. Suddenly what "Susan" said about people re-inventing what other groups have tried before makes sense.

      Of the many documents they sent to the FBI and other various legislators are 2 of interest:

      July 28, 2011 on behalf of Cox and Sapperstein:
      http://tinyurl.com/l5juwxh

      March 17, 2012 on behalf of Baron/Margetis
      http://tinyurl.com/kbhmnq5

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    5. Jon Roland ran for TX Senate in 2012, he is running again this year.

      http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/Jon_Roland.htm

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    6. @Anon1:04?
      As Ms P would say: "holy guacamole!" That George can spin one, huh?

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    7. Someone named Reformer questioned Bill Windsor's motives during the GRIP days:

      Unfortunately, it appears Mr. Windsor is and intends to remain, the sole decision maker for the activist group. This is an issue as it sets the stage for an organizer to operate with a hidden agenda. Indeed, many of Mr. Windsor’s actions thus far, seem inconsistent with his stated goals. For example, he claims the group will be an “umbrella” for all those interested in addressing corruption, but he has exhibited zero tolerance for any ideas that conflict with his own. It makes no sense.

      Mr. Windsor has publicly stated that a group now called GRIP has embraced his ideas. This is misleading. Who are the members of this group and where and when did they “embrace” his plan? Mr. Windsor never asked anyone to embrace anything. He announced his intention to do certain things, and forged ahead as if the unformed “group” was on board.

      "This board is here to provide an opportunity for people to speak freely to Mr. Windsor. The hope is that Mr. Windsor will open his mind to the possibility of reorganizing GRIP, to become a diplomatically run, productive umbrella group, which promotes and allows free speech among its members. These are basic requirements for any group that is to be comprised of Americans."


      http://members.boardhost.com/Reformer/msg/1300503137.html

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    8. I believe that was the forum "Susan" said she set up back then. She was upset that it didn't get the comments she was hoping for, and then later when she came here she decided that since she couldn't get us to do things her way, she formed that party of one blog in Windsor's name.

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    9. Anon? Are you implying that Snoozie's suggestions & ideas on open forums suck?
      Yeah, I agree.
      She is to social media & forums, what RAID is to bugs. #buzzkill

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    10. Oh & Waving~ @Anons~ pass guacamole!

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    12. It appears Lawless America and GRIP ran aground for the same reason the groups are unable to unite and some groups disintegrate. Ego. In the Talkshoe I posted earlier, Bill had 3 leaders of different groups on the phone but did not allow any of them a chance to speak. In the following broadcast Jon Roland was on, he managed to get about 10 minutes in a 2 hour show. Bill is so interested in what Roland is doing, he thinks Roland is running for Congress. Bill was supposed to post Roland’s campaign stuff but hasn’t had time (What? He can’t manipulate those search engines to help a brother out?). When Roland points out he is running for the Senate, Bill points out that Texas has 2 seats. And Bill should be fired as a Texan. He thinks Kay Bailey Hutchinson is a former governor.

      Roland talks about an article discussing the cover up of judicial corruption, then moves on to educating citizens to teach them how to create a runaway Grand Jury. He promotes his web site. Bill says Roland is the premier authority on the Constitution, probably one of the few with his head on straight. Roland says there are a few others, they are acquaintances of his. There are less than 200 people that have their heads on straight in thinking about the Constitution.

      Bill says he’s running for Congress as a marketing tool. In his travels for the movie he believes he can attract mainstream media coverage and more attention by saying “a Congressional candidate is going to be in Lansing, MI, taking testimony to be presented to Congress”. Bill basically says there are some really weird folks out there, don’t believe anything bad you hear about him or anybody that questions his motives.

      But, Bill did put his ego aside for a second. He gave Schied all the credit for keeping him going.

      http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-115884/TS-611106.mp3

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    13. Here's a tidbit to those who aren't in the game yet:

      As you would expect, after the hearing on Monday with Google, Billy fired off an angry email to the Google attorneys putting them on notice they had incorrectly characterized the CDA -- Communications Decency Act, and that if the attorneys did not notify the judge, he would file for sanctions as well as file a bar complaint.

      The Google attorneys countered by sending the judge a certified court copy of Thrash's order plus Windsor's 30-page appeal, and its complete dismissal from the 11th District US Court of Appeals.

      How did Google find out about Billy's VL status? Someone must have apprised them...you're welcome. ;-)

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    14. That's funny considering I heard him tell Judge Carroll with my own two ears that they wouldn't let him appeal the Thrash ruling.

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    15. That is indeed interesting. Here's the SOUP BONE quote:

      Appeal from the United States District Court
      for the Northern District of Georgia, Atlanta Division
      Civil Action No. 1:11-CV-01923-TWT
      Judge Thomas Woodrow Thrash


      ¶56. This Court's Order of December 21, 2011 is filled with perjury and constitutes obstruction of justice. Windsor has undeniable evidence that the federal courts in Atlanta, Georgia are a criminal racketeering enterprise. You are all criminals, and Windsor will spend the remainder of his life seeking to have you all indicted, convicted, imprisoned, disgraced, financially devastated, and impeached.

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    16. Billy should added his tactics to achieve his strategy:

      "...and I will all do this by filming, filing, suing, stalking, sniping, flaming, blaming and more."

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    17. What other goal would there possibly be, other than to rile up the lemmings, by posting a huge long list of names that he wants corrections and retractions from- but it's on his "private" setting? Kind of goes along with sending out court documents to people, that aren't signed, pretending they are legit, telling them they are being sued.

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    18. Can we get a re-post of the list here? Does this mean that it has sank in his lawsuit is dying a slow painful death?

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    19. Bill Windsor
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      CORRECTION AND RETRACTION DEMAND

      I, William M. Windsor, have been defamed, libeled, and slandered by many people.

      I request that each defamatory, libelous, and slanderous statement be corrected and retracted in as conspicuous and public a manner as that in which the statements were published, and that the retractions and corrections be accompanied at the same time by an editorial in which the statements are specifically repudiated.

      Please send proof of correction and retraction to Bill Windsor, 110 E Center Street #1213, Madison, SD 57042.

      A libel is a false and malicious defamation of another, expressed in print, writing, pictures, or signs, tending to injure the reputation of the person and exposing him to public hatred, contempt, or ridicule. Slander consists in: (1) Imputing to another a crime punishable by law; (2) Charging a person with having some contagious disorder or with being guilty of some debasing act which may exclude him from society; (3) Making charges against another in reference to his trade, office, or profession, calculated to injure him therein; or (4) Uttering any disparaging words productive of special damage which flows naturally therefrom. Malice is inferred from the character of the charge.

      Based upon information that I have received, I request correction and retraction from the following people and groups/organizations:

      Abused Swan, Adara Bloom, Adreema Barbie Higgins, Albert Fiorini, Allie Gate, Allie Overstreet, Allison Mais Bartels, American Idiot, AMPP, American Mothers Political Party, AMPPS are ROFL Their AO, Andrei Nikolaevich, Andy Ostrowski, Andy Stachura, Angela Robinson, Anita P Ness, Annie Isbel, Anon101, Anon411, Anon433, Anon666, Anon877, Anon9, Anonymous, APB BOLO for Mel Mel wanted for meanie name calling, Ardith Cunningham, Attorney, Author, Aveyone farmer, Babs Windsor, Beatrix Kiddo, Becky Murphy, Betsi Bendix, Beverly Tran, Bill W File, Bill Windsor Files (and Archives), Bill Windsore, Bob Lookout, Brandy Owen, Brannon, Brannon Bridge, Brenda Williamson, Bubbles, Captain Obvious, Carol Isaacs, Casey P. Hargrove, Charles Lingerfelt, Cheryl Sosby, Chris Reynolds, Christina Simington, Chuck Ferrari, Claudine Dombrowski, Cluelesspartyofone, Codefore Zap, ColdiCase, Cominta Wach, Connie Bedwell, CrystalsTumblingCox, Curtis Butler, Dallas Gregor, Dani Jarvis, Daniel Andrews, David Bambic, David Graham, Deanna Kloostra, Denim Jackson, Dharma and Smeg, Diane Gochin, Dona Eljay, Donna Givafuque, Dontae Givafuque, Dr odudu help to bring back my lover, Dreziza, Dust Pan, Edna Van Pyrite, Edward Hernandez, Elizabeth Hope Hernandez, End Invasion by CPS, Flanna, For Yaps, Friday is almost over, Fun Friday, funefarm4ever, Gabrielle Engle, Gail Lakritz, Geezus H. Christ,George White, Ginger Snap, GingerSnap, Google, Govabuse, Gracie Mitch, Grey CE, Guess Whoooo, GuessWho, Harrison, Harry Adkins, Hater/Stalker/Cookie Crumb, Helen Grace White, Hiding, Hiding Esq, Iguana Mama, Inquiring Minds, Interesting, InTooDeepToStopTheLie, It's Friday, James Blundell, Jane Doe 17, Jane Doe 354, Jane Doe 5, Jane Doe 868, Jay Roland, Jay Sutter, Jeff, Jeff Swinney, Jen, Jenna Catherine

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    20. the rest of the names:

      Jenna Catherine Reboli, Jennifer, Jennifer Dotson, Jessica Holly, jet Blanco, Jimmy S, Joe, Joe - Mr. Yappy, Joey Doe, Joey is a has been, Joeyisalittlekid.blogspot.com, John Doe #550, John Doe 1-1000, John Doe 487, John Doe 666, John Doe 999, John Lukaszewski, John Smith, JOIN ILLUMINATI TODAY, Jolly Roger, Josh Wright, Jud Witham, Julia Focker, June Andrews, Just Meeee, Justin Thompson, Kazi, Keith Hardesty, Keith Marsolek, Kellie McDouglad, Khaki Jackson, Khazi, Kim Sides, Kimberly Harrington, Kimberly Wigglesworth, Kimm Moon, King holl, Kinley Hardin, Kriss Cooley, Kyle Wigglesworth, Lance, Lawlessnomore, Laura Pfister, Lawless America is a Fraud, Lawless America Pennsylvania, Lawless America the Movie Scam, L Wilson, Lawlessisascam, Lawlessnomore, Life in Pearce, Lisa Jones, Lisa Soper, Legally Kidnapped, Lena Wilson, LK, Longwinded Oreader - Continues to be Longwinded, Longwinded Oreader - Vexatious Commenter, Longwinded Oreader attempts to slide into home plate, Longwinded Oreader Hopes These Post in Order This is the 3rd, Lookinthruwolfeye, Lori Callies, Lorraine, Lorraine Tipton, Loryn Ryder, Louise Barbara Verney, LT, Luis Ewing, Lynn Rubenstein Nicholson, Magnus, Marge Gunderson, Maria Mellin, Marilyn Yamamoto, Mark Supanich, Mark Worthington, Mary Bagnaschi, Mary Snow, Mary Windsor, Mary Windsore, Maryjo Guza, Megan Van Zelfden, Mel Mel, Melanie Smith, Melanie White, Meme Johnson, Michelle Gunn, Michelle Stilipec, Miss Joyce, Moderation, Mojo Hernandez, Molly Bicovno, Mom, More School for Susan, MR, MrSpkr, Mysterious Lady, Nahidworld, Naomi, NightmaresRComing4U, Ninja, Ninja brain fart, Nothing Better, NothingBetterToDoToday, NOTinteresting, NoviceTrainWreck, Ocean Storms Off, Oceans, Oceans has been Oceans forever, Oceans is a figment too, Oceans is a sailor, Oceans is confused, Oceans is laughing, Oceans is laughing at you Billy, Oceans is not in Texas, Oceans is so happy to see Petunia!! YAY, Oceans laughs as Billy throws in the towel, Oceans of sadness today, Oh NOES, OH NOES & TOES!, Oh NOES who is behind this post?, Ollie Reader, OOOReader, OReader, Oreader may only have time to lurk, but I despise Susan, Oreader the mysterious, P B and Y Blogtalk radio, Pepe, Pepper Miller, Periwinkle Bosinberi, Petunia Pigg, Petunia Snodgrass, Pick a Doe I'm one of many, Pick on someone your own size (I know it will be hard to find), Pie Man Zombie Hunter, Powerpuff Girls, Quick Somebody File an Injunction to make Oreader shut up, Rainy 68, R00tK1tty, Rachael.Kraus, Ramona Mayon, Ricky Martin, Rip Off report, Robert Cookout III, Robin, Ron Staley, Roo, RooOnFloorLaughingMyAssOff, Roxanne Grinage, Sally Angel Sparrow, Sam Round, Sarah, Sarah Blundell, Sarah Crocker, Sarah Palin, Sarah Tyrell, School for Susan, Schrodinger Rapist, Sean D Fleming, Shama Jain, Shannon Miller, Shonda Hargrove, Siesta Saturday, Slim Shadie, Smart Azz, Spamanon, Spawn, Spawn Doe #911, Stacy Emerson, Steve Johnson, Su Mein, Sue Meeh, Susan Buckaloo, Susan Harbison, Susan is a troll, Susie Queue Smith, Tammy Renee, The Shadow, The Trooth, The Voice of Reason, The Yapster, TheAMPP, Tim Love, Tina Freund, tinyfeetnhands, Trevor Hastings, Trinity Baker, TRSS, Truth About Extreme fathers Rights Groups, Truth Be Told, TTU Alumnus, Udoofoush, Unknown, V, V for Vendetta, Walk on with Hope, Walt Windsor, Walter, Walter Windsor, Walter Windsore, Watchitgoby, Watchingitgoby, We the People Family Preservation Rally, Webby, Wigglesworth, William M Windsor is a Fraud, Windsor Sluggo, Windsor Whisperer, Winston Windsor, WTP FPR, Yahoo, Yap, Yappy, Yaps, Yapster, Yawning too, Yawning…, Yoda, Zombie Hunter, and any others.

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    21. Susan Harbison Is there a deadline for people to return the affidavits claiming they are not a member of the Joeys? If so, what is it? Thanks.

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    22. Looks like the same list he posted a while ago. Makes me wonder if he's starting over or something. Maybe his new thing will be driving to all 50 states to find one he can sue everyone in.

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    23. And the Oscar goes to...Susan Harbison, "Supertroll."

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    24. "Based on information I have received."

      I'd have to say he needs to cough up his informant(s) info. If he isn't seeing the alleged meanine things, what gives him the right to post up all those names, making demands of which he had no fricken clue about in the first place? Just some trolls feeding the king of trolls names because they get a kick out of either making Windsor look like an ass, or they like to hurt innocent people. Either way, screw you Windsor, your stupid LA, and your repulsive "Revolutionary Farty"

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    25. Ditto 8:33 - you took the words out my head.

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    26. also in his list of retractions he wants one from none other then: Susan Harbison ..... bitch, better get your ass kissing gear on in full gear

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    27. GO RETRACT YOURSELF...like your own pathetically shriveled, bozon-sized testicles!

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    28. Me too, 8:33 & Nbtdt.
      Maybe I want some retractions & corrections?
      This could get fugly.

      & hey? Snooz? You gonna need a crowbar to pry your pointy nose from Bill's ass crack? JeezaLouise! Please! Go sit down & ptfd. You are about a dipshit! You are seriously whooping one of those out for your Willy, ain'tchya? That? Is funnier than his posting that pusscake snit privately.

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    29. @9:05 -- Statement directed to Mr. Windsor--sorry for the confusion.

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    30. "I request that each defamatory, libelous, and slanderous statement be corrected and retracted in as conspicuous and public a manner as that in which the statements were published,"

      Of course, this "request" is neither conspicuous nor public.

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    31. Another interesting fact: Bill's retraction list is about triple the current count of 72 Bill Windsor followers. Even omitting duplicates and posters under more than one screen name.

      And whoever gave Bill the basis for the information really ought to be ashamed of themselves. Bill didn't need any help looking foolish. It's a fact that 4 names on that list never commented about Bill on any blog. Not only is filling him full of more nonsense really hurting innocent people, he missed their intended targets.

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    32. I'll comment on this as soon as I finish putting out this house fire in Kemp.

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    33. Bawahahahahaha!!!!
      Hurry your ass up, Bob! Dinner's ready & I got a city council meeting!
      Damn.

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  17. Somebody up there ^^^^ was talking about the Sovcits having trouble with traffic tickets. This is good - Alfred Adask has a list of 48 questions to ask the state before you go fight the ticket you probably deserved. In fairness, he does say fighting a ticket might not be worth the trouble of making a point.

    http://adask.wordpress.com/2014/01/20/notice-right-of-inquiry-traffic-tickets/

    Here's a sampling:

    39. Do you understand that, as per Genesis 1:26-28, I am a man made in God’s image? Yes ___ No ___

    40. Do you understand that, as per The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America of July 4th, A.D. 1776 (also known as the “Declaration of Independence”), I am endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable Rights? Yes ___ No ___

    41. Do you understand that the name “DOE, JOHN DAVID” is merely an alias for my proper name “John Doe”? Yes ___ No ___

    42. Do you understand that I am one of people of “The State of Texas”? Yes ___ No ___

    43. Do you understand that I am a beneficiary of the express charitable trust entitled “The Constitution of The State of Texas” established in A.D. 1876? Yes ___ No ___

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    1. Yes, please do not get confused by the other document written in 1776 BC. Whatever!

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    2. A.D., B.C., You know thats all about being a Christian. Why not just say 1776 dammit.

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    3. You mean the Code of Hammurabi --that was c. 1772 BC.

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    4. yeah screw British Common Law, we all date back to Hammurabi's Code for our "rats"

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    5. Code of Hammurabi Law #127a: "If any one "point the finger" at any other blogger, and can not prove it, this man shall be taken before the judges and his brow shall be marked, and he shall be called a "Windsor" forever more and be mocked though out the land, and a great shunning shall befall him.

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    6. Bravo! Standing O Anon @8:30!!!

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    7. Everyone should comment over here on this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF3wSZhhTBA#t=792

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  18. ROD CLASS & THE “DEBRA JONES HOAX”

    Rodney DALE Class (“Rod Class”) is an amateur legal theorist with barely a high school education who teaches amateur legal theories to other amateur legal theorists. BUT, CLASS LIES TO HIS FOLLOWERS ABOUT WINNING CASES IN COURT. CLASS HAS ACTUALLY LOST ALL OF THEM. THAT’S RIGHT. CLASS HAS LOST EVERY SINGLE ADMINISTRATIVE AND JUDICIAL CASE IN WHICH HE HAS EVER BEEN INVOLVED (WELL OVER 65 COMPLETE, CONSECUTIVE LOSSES AND STILL COUNTING). NOT ONLY DOES CLASS LIE TO HIS FOLLOWERS ABOUT WINNING CASES IN COURT, HE ALSO LIES TO HIS FOLLOWERS ABOUT HOW HE ACHIEVED THOSE IMAGINARY VICTORIES IN COURT. CLASS FRAUDULENTLY TELLS HIS FOLLOWERS THAT HE WON ALL OF HIS CASES BY USING HIS AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES AND HIS AMATEUR “PAPERWORK”. (LIES ON TOP OF LIES.).

    But more importantly, Class is also a PROFESSIONAL HOAXER. He is behind the “Judge DALE Hoax”, the “FOURTH Administrative Ruling Hoax”, the “Property In Other People’s Names Hoax”, the “Private Attorney General Hoax”, the “Right To Travel Hoax”, the “Embezzling Federal Funds Hoax” and the “CRIS Hoax”. (All of these hoaxes will soon be exposed). But, most importantly for this expose’, Class is also behind the “Debra Jones Hoax”.

    THE HOAX: Class has own internet radio show on AIB radio which he uses to sell his amateur belief system about the law and the legal system. On July 8, 2014, in Episode 869, Class purported to bring in a “legal insider” as a guest on his radio show in order to validate, bolster and to provide support for his own amateur legal theories about the law and the legal system. Class FRAUDULENTLY introduced this FAKE “legal insider” as “former attorney” and “former law enforcement officer”, “Debra Jones’’. As planned, during this 2 hour 43 minute show, this FAKE “legal insider” mindlessly “parroted” the same “amateur legal theories” (FAKE laws) and utterly delusional claims about the law and the legal system that Class himself makes. Rod Class’ radio audience was understandably shocked and horrified by the FAKE, FALSE and FRAUDULENT claims of Debra Jones who they genuinely believed was a real “legal insider” who was telling them the truth. This FAKE radio show became an internet sensation, much to the delight of Rod Class and Debra Jones. It was an absolute disgrace.

    THE TRUTH: But, before putting her on his internet radio show, Class already knew that:
    1. Debra Jones’ REAL name is “Debra Jenks Jones”;
    2. Debra Jenks Jones was born on May, 29, 1967;
    3. As of today, Debra Jenks Jones is currently 49 years old;
    4. Debra Jenks Jones’ social security number is (redacted) 531-80-XXXX;
    5. Debra Jenks Jones lives at (redacted) XXXX XXXth Street Court, Puyallup, Pierce County, Washington State, 98375 and has lived there since April of 1995.;
    6. Debra Jenks Jones HAS NEVER HAD a “professional license” of ANY TYPE from ANY STATE which means that she was NEVER an “ attorney”, a person who would have had a “professional license” from at least one state (at least at some point in time in the past).
    7. Debra Jenks Jones was NEVER a “law enforcement officer” in any jurisdiction.


    CONCLUSION: As this HOAX conclusively proves, Rod Class will not hesitate to lie to you and to defraud you if doing so helps him “sell” his “amateur belief system” about the law and the legal system to you. Needless to say, if you paid Debra Jones hundreds or thousands of dollars to attend one or more of her seminars in the belief that she is a “former real estate attorney” and a “former police woman”, then you were defrauded and ripped-off. You should demand your money back and/or contact law enforcement authorities. Rod Class and Debra Jones should be ashamed of themselves for committing this VICIOUS ATTACK on the America people. They should both immediately apologize to the American people for what they have done and they should both immediately discontinue their pattern of fraud upon the American people.

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