The Problem With the Pie Man's Open Mic Tour

This is more of a semi-serious post on why Lawless America is a failure (besides the problems with the Pie Man).  There is no doubt that corruption does exist at any level of power.  It has since the beginning of time, and it will until this world ends, I don't think anyone would question that.  The problem is trying to convince your average Joe, who has no dog in the fight, that your situation is corrupt.  Certainly LA has jumped the shark in this regard.

I have no doubt that some of the individuals in the LA open mic tour have a legitimate case.  The problem is they are drowned out by the never-ending side show circuses  To be effective in something like this you must be exceptionally focused and specific.  Who exactly do you have a grievance with and show me proof of why?  That is what you would need to do to get buy in from the general public.

Instead, we have the LA pie tour and open mic.  Any and everyone can go under his lights and talk about whatever they want.  Everyone is corrupt.  No proof, no vetting, no follow up just bits and clips of some long sordid affair.  Now, the Pie Daddy never really wanted to fight widespread corruption, just his own problems so he doesn't seem to be to worried about the fact that LA has no focus.  Bill is much more interested in picking personal fights with different groups and individuals because, after all, thats how this pie tour got started in the first place.  Bill was legally kicked out of the courts, so he will show them, he will start a nationwide tour to build support for HIM, not really any cause.  He will wrong everyone's rights, just as long as everyone understands its about HIM.

Just look at this little sight seeing trip he is planning in DC.  The lemmings have no idea where they are going, they can't even get a hotel at this point.  Bill says they are pretty much responsible for setting up their own schedule.  Other than one meeting together, which will be like a giant blind date as all these internet personalities meet in real life, there is no co-ordination no plan.  This does bother some of the followers, but not Bill.  He is just after some sort of event he can spin as a major success and continue to build followers and pie across the country.

Then we have the LA facebook page.  Its the wild west.  The conspiracy nutcases have taken it over.  Sandy Hook was a government cover-up.  China is working with our Mafia to control the CPS.  Then you have those that are political activist both on the right and left.  Again, someone looking at that page for the first time would get the impression that LA is about any and everything as long as anarchy is involved.  And as we follow these people more and more, that might be exactly what it is about.

Some of The Emperor's Followers Make a Discovery

Some of his minions are starting to get suspicious of all the conflicting orders from Der Fuhrer.  One of them, Debbie, had this to say about Windsor's ever expanding naughty list:

Debbie L Byard Browning Mr. Windsor: Did you just tell me in your above post that I could not agree on some issues within some groups, because within these groups, they may have persons which disagrees with you, therefore they are slandering you? Now Sir, I mean no disrespect to you, however with this being said, I have stated it before, and am now again asking as to why you addressing them? It was my understanding that your, Lawless America, was to support the Constitution of the United States of America, and stop the corruption with our government. I agreed to help you do just that. What I did not agree to do was to pick and choose who has Constitutional Rights. There are thousands of groups on Facebook that I disagree with, but if they are America citizens, each of them have the same Constitutional Rights as you do. One that comes to mind is “Freedom of Speech”, and it would seem to me that you Sir are now making decisions for me as to whom I may follow, and either agree or disagree on Facebook pages. I can assure you Mr. Windsor, you are not my voice, and I am the only one that is my voice. Earlier this morning I sent you an e-mail stating I wanted to be removed as Manager of the Lawless America Indiana Facebook page. This is directly due to your “orders” that you are now implementing. Are you attempting to be a dictator here, I Sir will not now, nor ever take your orders.

The Pie Man had no other choice to respond to such independent, rational and logical thinking than to say:
Lawless America Bye Debbie.

Then he goes on to explain why he did that:

Lawless America I don't like eliminating people from this project (but since I lost about half of the videos I shot, I need to figure out a reason to X them out). But I made it extremely clear before I ever left Atlanta (when no one knew who I was) on June 14 that there are two things I cannot and will not tolerate: liars and extremely rude people (who wont give me pie). At that time, I never dreamed (it was during the day and I was wide awake) I needed to add evil people and vicious slanderers. I have to do what I think is best for the project and the movie (uh oh lemmings, read between the lines, he is laying the foundation for a big change), and if anyone doesn't like that, the option is quite simple: unfriend and go away...quietly (please go quietly because I can't stand people speaking out of turn and without the emperor's blessing).

Then he decides to give everyone an update on his little "Mr. Smith Goes to Hollywood" trip.

1-15-2013 - 6:00 PM PACIFIC TIME - HOLLYWOOD CALIFORNIA:

I met some nice people in the movie business today (some WB janitors let me in and I had some apple pie). Those I spoke with said they were very excited about what we have (pie?), though the best meeting was with a pro who doesn't do document...aries (pro at what?). He is headed to the Sundance Film Festival where he plans to speak with several of the right people for the project (so I met a guy who knows a guy, who plans to go to sundance to talk to some other guys). He indicated that he felt this is a natural for a television series (like Gilligan's Island?). He indicated it should be much more compelling than a show like America's Most Wanted because of the human interest; her loved The Nobodies (what do we mean by "loved").

So, we now have several irons in the fire (oh Billy, you have many more than that you just don't know it yet). I believe we have three very viable possibilities: One contract from an agent for a TV series (wait, when do agents offer contracts for TV shows?); an application to be on a reality TV show with 19 other documentary directors vying for funding (ummmm, did you just say reality TV?); and the last group I met with today.See More  (hey lemmings, did you notice what word he didn't use, yes that's right no MOVIE, all of these will be available at your local youtube)

       

The Pies Continue To Fly

If anyone thought that the Pie Daddy had called off the war he started, you were mistaken.  The battle has broken off into several skirmishes as Windsor has put Loryn Ryder in his sights and unleashed his gustapo on her.  Connie has decided to fight back and has announced that she and AMPP are teaming up to make a movie about Bill.  Take that, we can make up a fake movie and advertise it around just like you do.  Well them is fighting words for Bill, and he is now trying to redeploy his confused lemmings to counteract this new threat.   Der Fuhrer is throwing out the number of followers he has to let everyone know what they are up against.  My fake movie is better than your fake movie should be the battle cry.


The comments on his FB page under this topic are just too rich:

Lawless America Lawless America has 4,999 Friends, 14,725 Subscribers/Followers, 7,800 Facebook Cause members, 100,000 people who have emailed us, and 300,000 readers ofwww.LawlessAmerica.com.

Deborah Munson-Cardenas Somewhat wondering if by showcasing all the nut jobs out there you detract from the wonderful focus of your primary purpose and unknowingly allow them to continue to steal the glory.

Ohhh, bad Lemming, thinking for yourself and employing things such as reason and logic?  Expect a visit from Bill's goons to help you understand things a little better.  

Bill responds to that with:
Lawless America Deborah, I guess it's a character flaw, but I won't allow them to libel, slander, and defame me without exposing them.

Wait, being a little hitler is just a character flaw now?  No biggie, just a character flaw, and I will be dammed if I am going to change it.

Lawless America We have added 12,000 followers since these sad people started their abuse.

Followers is a very good word choice, but how many of them are real?

Lawless America The women associated with the American Mothers Political Party are a disgrace to all good mothers.

So let it be written, so let it be done

Ok, So What is The Score?

Now that we have had time to digest all the news and information coming from Joey's sentencing, I think we now have a pretty good idea of where it stands.

The jury wanted no part of straight up probation, and from my information I think several of the jurors seemed to want a much stiffer sentence.  They arrived at something, I think, everyone, and maybe even Joey, would agree is fair.  He must serve some solid time in prison, he must forever be a registered sex offender, but they wanted to give him a chance to rehabilitate and come back as a productive member of society.  His penalty is:


3 ten year sentences for the 3 sexual assaults of a child charges, and a $7,500 fine
1 ten year probation which will kick in after he is released from prison for the indecency with a child charge.
The Judge will decide next Tuesday if these sentences run concurrently or stacked and he will be eligible for parole half way through his term
So best case scenario, Joey is out in 5 years and on probation, worst case he could be stuck in prison for 30.

Now, as to today's drama, I think Joey's attorney Ed Jendrzey saved Joey from some extra prison time with this statement:
"He noted that the ex-blogger is small and not strong, and he could be severely injured or even killed in prison."  from the rare reporter blog
I don't think after watching him sob on the witness stand that any juror would disagree with that statement.  Jendrezy also repeated his claim that this was a very strange case.  Well the case itself isn't all that strange, other than the time it took to bring charges, it was a simple rape of a young boy.  But what I really think he means by that is that he has a complete nutcase as a client.  Remember when Patrick Wilson wanted Joey to undergo a psychological evaluation?  Jendrezy was noted as making it very clear to the Judge that he wanted no part of any appeal aka I will never stand on behalf of this crazy kid ever again.

To sum it up, this is a terrible case of a boy who was raped by someone with cold calculation.  The victim is a hero to many people he will probably never know who Joey attacked, as well as prevented future crimes both of the sexual and slanderous nature on potential victims.  Society is a winner in Joey Dauben going to prison.   Joey had every opportunity to swallow his massive pride and take a deal, he turned down a 10 year probation only plea offer.  I think he could have had a much lighter sentence even after the verdict if he had just owned up to what he did.  So while society is a winner, there really is no reason to rejoice as a life that could have been so much has now been compromised.  It is so sad that it had to end this way, but in the end its the only way it could have.

Joey Dauben is Headed to Prison for At Least 10 years

I'm hearing that Joey was convicted to 10 years on each of the three counts, and and lingering probation attached with the other felony. The Judge will decide Tuesday if its concurrent or stacked. Joey was taken into custody. Ok, update, the 10 years for the lesser felony is community service/probation. So he could possibly get 30 years prison plus 10 years probation, its up to the Judge now.