Tuesday, January 15, 2013

The Pies Continue To Fly


If anyone thought that the Pie Daddy had called off the war he started, you were mistaken.  The battle has broken off into several skirmishes as Windsor has put Loryn Ryder in his sights and unleashed his gustapo on her.  Connie has decided to fight back and has announced that she and AMPP are teaming up to make a movie about Bill.  Take that, we can make up a fake movie and advertise it around just like you do.  Well them is fighting words for Bill, and he is now trying to redeploy his confused lemmings to counteract this new threat.   Der Fuhrer is throwing out the number of followers he has to let everyone know what they are up against.  My fake movie is better than your fake movie should be the battle cry.


The comments on his FB page under this topic are just too rich:

Lawless America Lawless America has 4,999 Friends, 14,725 Subscribers/Followers, 7,800 Facebook Cause members, 100,000 people who have emailed us, and 300,000 readers ofwww.LawlessAmerica.com.

Deborah Munson-Cardenas Somewhat wondering if by showcasing all the nut jobs out there you detract from the wonderful focus of your primary purpose and unknowingly allow them to continue to steal the glory.

Ohhh, bad Lemming, thinking for yourself and employing things such as reason and logic?  Expect a visit from Bill's goons to help you understand things a little better.  

Bill responds to that with:
Lawless America Deborah, I guess it's a character flaw, but I won't allow them to libel, slander, and defame me without exposing them.

Wait, being a little hitler is just a character flaw now?  No biggie, just a character flaw, and I will be dammed if I am going to change it.

Lawless America We have added 12,000 followers since these sad people started their abuse.

Followers is a very good word choice, but how many of them are real?

Lawless America The women associated with the American Mothers Political Party are a disgrace to all good mothers.

So let it be written, so let it be done


109 comments:

  1. I posted this on the other article...
    Um, Pie Boys useless, moron minions, or Pie Boy himself can't seem to post anything factual... EVER!! The movie comment came from Loryn not AMPP. Loryn posted it to Connies page...I believe AMPP thought it was funny, and they reposted Loryn's comment...but in Pie world, who says the truth matters??? If Pie Boy says it, and he posts it, then Damn it, it's the truth...(well, unless you have eyes for yourself)



    Loryn Ryder

    Who is Bill Windsor? Whoever he is I can tell you that just you and I combined have more supporters than he will ever have. Add all the other people he’s screwed over and right there is a huge following and I think it’s time that WE make HIM the STAR of OUR movie :)

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    Sandy Ferguson and 11 others like this..

    Connie Bedwell-Tuma Lights, camera action

    January 9 at 9:54pm · Like · 2..

    Connie Bedwell-Tuma And to answer your question, a sick old man that clearly acts like an abuser, flipping his own disgusting behavior and lies on his victims... PUKE. He will get his for what he is doing to you and Bella.

    Yesterday at 1:16am · Like

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    1. Lol, that figures. I bet at some point he will claim he has the copyright to running a fake movie scam. How long is it going to take his lemmings to ask a fundamenal question.....if you have well over 500 videos and they are at least 3 minuetes each, and you plan to keep filming people with no end in sight, how is this ever going to be a movie? I guess he figures if he grabs some kids off the street and gets them to push the play button on his camera, people will continue to fall for it.

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    2. the math is simple the movie will be the 300+ people simply stating their names in 3 second burst not the full version of what they think they got from the courts.

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    3. Ya, so the pie guy can't admit he lies (as in this very post above blaming AMPP when it was from Loryn)...and instead goes ahead and makes more posts about hate groups...and in comes Julia Fletcher again, warning people of wasting precious time, by making slanderous comments about her pie guy- and posts links to pie boys hate groups. OMG!!! STFU!! You are a pot stirrer.

      I find this page full of fun, and informative information cause we aren't bias here. We can see things the way they are...Thanks Ginger Snap!!

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  2. Now here is another comment, lets go conspiracy with it, maybe Connie is working with the authorities to bring Bill down, makes sense:

    Dottie Lafortune Bill, something to think about....whatever is being put out there to discredit you and Lawless America is material that could be used in the movie to prove the extent people will go through to harm something good. It fits into the movie....good people being harmed by corrupt officials, judges, etc. We are all seeking the same goal...makes you wonder if people are making "deals."

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    1. LOL, yep, I think I called that in a previous article you wrote.
      Last night on his talkshoe, he contradicted himself and said something along the lines that everyone will be in the movie. Then a few seconds later he said something like,I'm not sure where I am going with the movie, but I have an idea. Then he again went on to say, he had too many people for them all to be in the movie...

      He has no clue what he is doing, and it appears it's because he never really intended to do a movie. He can never answer a question directly. He sidesteps, and alludes to things, but never commits.

      Like I said in the other article, what better scam to pull on people trying to expose corruption, than to scam them, and pretend it was the corruption that stopped the movie. (not my exact words from before...)

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    2. There is no doubt that he movie is a scam. But the bigger questions is what is his real intentions in building this huge base of followers? Money? Political Influence? Maybe Bill hasn't figured it out yet, he is kinda like the underpants gnome's in South Park, first objective is get underpants then figure out why after that.

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    3. I think it is all of the above, Ginger Snap

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  3. warning Rob his Tech Criminal is sending out a fake e-mail about a lawsuit, and then you get a notice to update your Java. Then he hack your computer.

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  4. MMMMMMMMM Pieeeeeeeeeee Man forgot my page I am hurt.......

    MORE HATE SITES VICIOUSLY SLANDER BILL WINDSOR AND LAWLESS AMERICA:

    ANYONE who supports these pages in any manner will not be part of anything related to Lawless America. If you want to support liars, crooks, and vicious slanderers, pleas...e simply unfriend and go away.

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Domestic-Violence-Survivor-Network/240990449286465

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Walk-on-with-hope-in-your-heart-and-you-will-never-walk-alone/21553229079?ref

    https://www.facebook.com/wtp.fprinc?ref=ts&fref=ts

    https://www.facebook.com/AMPPUSA?ref=ts&fref=ts

    American Mothers Political Party

    WTP FPR - We the People Family Preservation Rally

    www.LawlessAmerica.com www.YouTube.com/lawlessamerica www.facebook.com/lawlessamerica
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2337260/See More

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    1. Ginger's blog didn't make the cut? So many hate sites so little time! lol

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    2. wait, is he listing his own sites as hate sites? Poor pie man

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    3. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Truth-about-extreme-Father-Rights-groups/226215250762038?ref=hl is attack him like crazy poor pie man

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    4. LMAO Pie man is the only one that hack people PC stealing air miles, begging for money and these women are crooks...he is so funny

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  5. I dont know why but this seems like a scene from the movie "Something About Mary" when they were carting Ben Stiller out on the stretcher and Mary's brother was following behind yelling "He was mast!@#$%^&*$" Some how I see Bill being carted off and Connie close behind yelling the same thing

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  6. I want a bobblehead for sake of having a billy bobble head.

    Mary Bagnaschi shared Actof Courage's photo.
    2 hours ago
    I still want to find a wealthy American investor or more to start an American made factory that will produce Bill Windsor bobble heads! When we advance the Revolution Party and begin to make our presence in every election, Lawless America campaign material will become priceless!

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  7. in honor of the pies that are flying. "Brandy. More Brandy."
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq4tQg4QYLQ

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    1. you cant beat "The Great Race" Still after all these years holds the world record for being the largest pie fight caught on film.
      Bill (Pie Man) Windsor vs. AMPP is getting recognition for the largest pie fight ever caught on social media

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  8. My take on Pie Guy.
    He doesn't like strong, independent woman, who can think for themselves, and who appear to be leaders. (some of his men followers fall under this category too)
    a) He called his minions to boycott or stay away from the Million Mother's March because he didn't like or agree (or whatever) with their group.
    b) He cut ties with WTP who appears to be run by mostly women, who can think for themselves.
    c) He called out AMPP, who did nothing to him, but he falsely blamed them and labeled the a hate group. Again, strong, independent woman, who know the truth about what is going on in the world with regards to women being treated like second class citizens.
    d) He protests any group that has mostly women involved, that are outspoken, not easily manipulated, and who are against abusive men.

    Bill also cut ties with several very verbal, strong minded women, who had a mission to expose the injustices being inflicted upon their children.
    Bill stated that he would cut off anyone affiliated with groups he named, or individuals he called out but that wasn't true. There are tons of people still in his group who support both.
    He appears to be a dictator, who suffers from narcissistic and sociopath tendencies. He like women who he can manipulate, intimidate, threaten, and brainwash. If you look at those still following him, they are just that. Most of these women were married to men just like him, so it is easy to see how they can not see, he is just using them, abusing them, and treating them just as the abusers they are trying to expose. Ironic.

    He demands they only listen to him, follow him, he won't allow them to think for themselves, won't allow them to have certain 'friends', sends them out on a mission to 'name names, and they all follow like the abused, brain dead, minions they were trying not to be.

    I wonder now, what is the story behind his grandchild? Anyone know? I have a theory if someone knows that story.

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    1. My take on the Pie Man is he is a Horny old Man, trying to get flock of fool to follow him, so he can Rob them blind

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    2. yes, notice he is not eatting his wife's pie....

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    3. http://www.catoggio.com/ancestors-Catoggio-Windsor-Walter.htm
      http://www.walterwindsor.com/funeral.htm UM....no comment...will wait until you pick yourself off the floor. My guess is they all went back to the church for pie.

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    4. NothingbettertodotodayJanuary 15, 2013 at 10:39 PM

      hahaha Anon 9:07 - I had the same thought..

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  9. so are we saying the Pie Man want to be a Woman...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFBOQzSk14c

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    1. and he read this Blog, this a great place to get him to throw some pies, trust me it will make you feel better. when you watch these people dance like the fool he is

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  10. Do you all want a story on pie man, an abused woman, a child who was kidnapped (kept out of school for nearly a month) by her father, identity theft, stalking, harassment, misuse of abuse hotline, and more? This is a man who had verified and indicated abuse and neglect charges levied against him. He has subjected the child to countless neglect. The mother has been harassed at home and work incessantly by him. There is so much that can be said about this situation. Add into that corruption by his local sheriff department. Made for TV movie. Comment under here or if the owner of this blog wants to speak to me please comment the best way to speak to you.

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    1. ok, I will bite, to some degree. Lets start with the first one "an abused woman". How does that story go?

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    2. it is BS, someone trying to find out who you are Ginger Snap

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    3. I'd only give that attempt a 3 score. It was not very original, and pretty obvious. It didn't even peak my interest because I am desensitized by all the liars out there like CONster and Presley, etc.

      LMAO - you need a better line anon, or you could just post on the blog like everyone else.

      Besides, Ginger is just Ginger Snap, get over trying to make personal contact, ask webb how that works. LOL

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    4. this is the company that own the site that runs Lawless America, as you can see his son and his father are on the here. But the Pie Man I wonder if they know how Crazy he is http://alcatrazmedia.com/about-us/

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  11. The abused woman was assaulted (grabbed by her hair and thrown) and then chased through the residence. She has documented medical reports regarding this. There is a current injunction in place against the abuser. He admitted to cps that he did indeed assault the woman. He also attempted to run another woman over with his truck. His father arrived to remove him from her son's property. She left him shortly after that. Any other questions? Keep in mind I have entire case files from cps with his admission of abuse and their verified findings of domestic violence and alcohol abuse. And please don't think I am having an attitude, I am not. I simply want to expose this BS and have these issues in the proper venue. They belong in criminal court, not family court.

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    1. I dont think you have an attitude, I just dont know where you are going with this, or what you think this site is about. Are you saying the the person you are describing is Bill Windsor?

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    2. Anon, that is a horrible situation, but what are you trying to find here?

      I know there are real abuse cases. I have been party to one. There is violence and abuse going on somewhere right now.

      Are you trying to make a point?

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    3. @ Anon 4:47 is this the case involving BW's grandchild? Or is this directly about BW?

      If this is about the grandchild, go back up to the post(@anon 1:50) asking if anyone knows what the story is, and post there. It is kind of confusing what you are saying because you aren't really claiming who the abuser is. If it's just a random abuser (not the pie guy or his son), then disregard this post...and I am sorry about the abuse.

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  12. Another victim of Pie Man takes a hit. This woman challenged his dictator status, in what I interpreted a very logical comment. Poor Debbie...don't feel bad, you were dead on right!!

    "Debbie L Byard Browning Mr. Windsor: Did you just tell me in your above post that I could not agree on some issues within some groups, because within these groups, they may have persons which disagrees with you, therefore they are slandering you? Now Sir, I mean no disrespect to you, however with this being said, I have stated it before, and am now again asking as to why you addressing them? It was my understanding that your, Lawless America, was to support the Constitution of the United States of America, and stop the corruption with our government. I agreed to help you do just that. What I did not agree to do was to pick and choose who has Constitutional Rights. There are thousands of groups on Facebook that I disagree with, but if they are America citizens, each of them have the same Constitutional Rights as you do. One that comes to mind is “Freedom of Speech”, and it would seem to me that you Sir are now making decisions for me as to whom I may follow, and either agree or disagree on Facebook pages. I can assure you Mr. Windsor, you are not my voice, and I am the only one that is my voice. Earlier this morning I sent you an e-mail stating I wanted to be removed as Manager of the Lawless America Indiana Facebook page. This is directly due to your “orders” that you are now implementing. Are you attempting to be a dictator here, I Sir will not now, nor ever take your orders.

    Lawless America Bye Debbie.

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    1. LMAO, she has it figured out, but being the bullie he is, down comes the ban hammer.

      LMAO, better revise those numbers PieMiester

      ANd his math jut amazes me. He does NOT have than many visitors to his blog. LMAO, guess he doesn't know how easy it is to check traffic on any website HAHAHAHHHAA Bill, you need to eat some more crust and study harder. You FAIL at math, and leadership, an the internet. You will never produc a movie anyone but you and maybe your 'movie stars' will ever see. And guess what Billy Boy, you show it even once on the internet and you won'tbe considered(like that will ever happen anyway) by Sundance.

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    2. Right on Oceans!! The 'movie' in his head, is lame. Sundance won't want it. Really, it is shotty film work, terrible lighting, and just a bunch of people all sitting staring at either the camera or the paper in front of them. There is nothing artsy, creative, or original about this. Really, who would want to see it, other than the people he lies to about being in it? Sundance doesn't put out crappy films like this. Pie boy lead these minions down a dead end road for money, a free trip around the U.S. and perhaps new identities as I have read in other posts.

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  13. Bill is just a friendly dictator who likes to drie around the counry for the pies. He has no clue on how to make this into a movie, and he doesn't vet anyone. He is stringing his minions along,and using them a attackdogs when the mood strikes him. He stands for nothing, but according to Mr. Pie on the Brain, Bill Windsor is always right. He even told the US Supreme court this in writing.

    I doubt he expected this to draw in so many fools, and sad people, and I really doubt heplanned on the real mentally ill minions.

    He is power happy an a meglamaniac. The rest of the time is just a spoiled toddler stuffing his face with pie and begging for donations.

    I sure hope he fles all the income on his tax return. Maybe someone should ask the IRS? LOL

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    1. at the end of loryn post about how he scammed her is the Link on how to report him to the IRS

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  14. Geezo...this keyboard sucks!! Sorry for all the missing letters and typos.. LOL

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  15. Ginger, I'm sure you will understand that there is a huge group of women that have been not only disenfranchised by pie f**cker but they are being continually attacked by this man. The only pies he's throwing are cow pies and they're landing on his own face. He's a joke, The Ampp's are laughing and cannot wait until his lemmings realize what a joke he is. He needed a "scapegoat" and reason to not to be able to make his "movie". Like was stated above he was only doing this to make an excuse for his "Round America" part deaux to happen. These victims are were extremely desperate to tell their story. He's cherry picking who he likes and it' not those that question his authority (as was also stated earlier) I guess the REAL lesson in this all is that there is more Joey's in the world whose biggest goal is to be a big bully. But we know how this story is going to end. Watch this spot, all the blogspots names are being swooped up. What is the trigger that pie f***er hates??? Seeing his name on the internet that shines the light on his hatred of women, strong, independent women. Just google his name...as I'm sure he does...and watch daily because he's really not going to be a happy pie daddy. :D

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    1. Ha!! Boom Diggity!!

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    2. I know there are a lot of people out there hurting as a result of his bad pie, and they are free to express their anger or their experience on here. But other than doing some satire posts on the Pie Man's War, we don't actually get involved. I'm an unactivist.

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    3. but the Satire post of your blog is healing, trust me, if is fun watching you make him dance,

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  16. I LOVE satire, I LIVE for sarcasm and I LUST for outing idiots.

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    1. Well that's what this site is about. Nothing more. Nothing less

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    2. NothingbettertodotodayJanuary 15, 2013 at 6:28 PM

      Speaking of outing idiots: after dropping Dauben-Tuma I had hopes that Presley was starting to grow up and think for herself. But, no. She's written a song about pedophiles and posted it to Connie's FB page. Joey's conviction apparently has had no affect on her.

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    3. I just saw that too. Ain't it sweet NBTDT?

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    4. wow are these girl under the delusion they can write songs? There isn't a creative bone between them. LMAO, I mean it's so bad I gave up reading it.

      It never changes with them, they rant and blame and lie and accuse, they get no results and they rinse and repeat.

      Umm Connie, you know what they say about people who keep repeating the same mistakes expecting different results right?

      I am losing hope that Presley will ever choose a real life instead of this. She just got ivolved with the real deal, Joey, and she still doesn't get it. SMH

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    5. NothingbettertodotodayJanuary 15, 2013 at 7:40 PM

      @ yappy: I was trying to imagine the melody. If Presley doesn't have one yet, maybe she can give the words to Mary over at LA. After finding a rich guy to make bobble head dolls, maybe she'll go back to work on finding bands and songs. Oh wait, I forgot - she's been excommunicated from LA.

      @ Oceans: I have no more hope for Presley. She is going to follow one of her leaders right off a cliff. I can't wait to see what she does after Connie's dad's trial.

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  17. NothingbettertodotodayJanuary 15, 2013 at 6:35 PM

    Ahh, the first mention of Joey hit's the LA FB page:

    Vicky Lynn Keller Are you going to do a story on joey dauben???

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    1. Give Billy some time, I'm sure he doesn't realize Joey's goose is cooked. It takes him awhile. So Vickster is still all loving on Joey? Wonder if she went to the trial? I bet she did with her pom poms in hand.

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    2. NothingbettertodotodayJanuary 15, 2013 at 7:15 PM

      Well, Vicky Lynn must be out of the loop. How does she not know Presley's "testimony" was scratched due to unacceptable associations?

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  18. There are tmes that I feel like I am destroying my brain by reading the crap on LA FB. Nowit's Sandy Hook was staged, an page down a bit and you see that CPS should be eliminated completely. What aboutthose children who are truly rescued from death by CPS. He takes issue with Jan Brewer in AZ wanting to expand it. Does this fat ass ever read the real news and learn abou theatrocities committed by parents againt children? It happens everywhere but there have been some really awful deaths of children in AZ and some children removed after their siblings were neary killed. Who does he think will stop these monsters if there is no CPS.

    People focus on the failures, and CPS screws up, but they also save livs of the most helpless among us. Thing is you rarely hear abou thosecases where CPS worked sit should. Read the news Bill,and stop believing every story your subjects fling your way.

    GAHHH clueless and concieted and pies for brains

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    1. NothingbettertodotodayJanuary 15, 2013 at 7:12 PM

      Yeah, I saw those posts too. I couldn't wrap my head around them enough to comment. RE: CPS failures - I'm sure there are some, the workers are human after all. But, most of the stories posted leave so many unanswered questions. Seems to me, in the cases I've seen, if there is a CPS failure it's usually an error on the side of the parents in an effort to keep families together.

      Sandy Hook conspiracy and our guns are going to be taken away are so far out there....how does anybody find anything on this page credible?

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    2. NothingbettertodotodayJanuary 15, 2013 at 8:22 PM

      @ Oceans: OMG! The Sandy Hook thing is spreading like the flu. My beloved, personable, intelligent, God fearing farrier just posted a link on his FB page "10 Facts That Prove 'Sandy Hook Shooting" Was A Hoax.

      Nope, not even going to open it.

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    3. There really is not enough room for CPS AND Bill Windsor. He can see to it that all abuse in the world stops and the children never go hungry. He can get people to bring in pie from all over the place! All we have to do to assist him in this endeavor is like his page!!!

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  19. Doesn't Naomi understand Pie Guy video was making fun of her boss? *face palm*

    https://vimeo.com/56580360

    Inbox message:

    From
    LawlessAmerica.com

    To
    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    # Naomi
    These women sound like a bunch of loones.

    Before xxxxxxxxxx was taken from me, and shipped off to xxxxxxxx I remember calling some feminist groups in my desperation, hoping that they might be able to help me in some way. When I spoke to them, they sounded paranoid and very man-hating. I do not tolerate radical feminists nor MRA. It often times turns out being an angry circle-jerk of people feeding into each others anger. I have no desire to be a part of it.

    At any rate, let me know if the clip I sent you worked okay.

    XXXOOO

    Naomi

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  20. I am anon @349 and 447. The reason I stated what I stated is because I am one who filmed with BW. I had someone with me and what he is saying now is completely different from what he said then. He has thrown my daughter and i under the proverbial bus. Unlike the others I have the proof of abuse through cps and court files. Everyone was touting bill the pie man as someone who would do something. He did something all right. Another person has ignored the abuse and the crimes committed by my ex husband. I have pictures (they do indeed speak a thousand words). I have his own words to cps workers admitting abuse. He kidnapped our child and blackmailed her into thinking she needed to stay away from me. He cause her to miss a month of school. An honor roll student last year went to C's and D's this year. Police are lying in their official reports. What more can I say. Pie man sucks. The system sucks. And i personally am tired of him saying that i am a liar. Tired of him saying I am mentally I'll. I am neither. I have however been diagnosed as having chronic ptsd from three different professionals. Nothing more, nothing less. I just want fairness and justice for myself and my daughter. That's all.

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    1. NothingbettertodotodayJanuary 15, 2013 at 7:54 PM

      So to recap: you are saying your ex kidnapped your kid, Bill said he would help you get her back but he didn't?

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    2. Yeah that's kinda how I get it at this point

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    3. NothingbettertodotodayJanuary 15, 2013 at 8:11 PM

      @ G/Snap: thanks.

      @ Anon: did you give Bill any money?

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    4. Well this is just another sad story of someone who believed the Pie Man.
      A) Pie man is not an attorney and can't do anything about your case.
      B) He will however exploit your story, and as judge and jury, decide if you are making false allegations against your ex, even with evidence you are not lying.

      He has done this to many women, who trusted him, believed his lies, and false promises. He himself has been labeled a vexatious litigant, for filing numerous (probably bogus) cases and angering judges.

      You need to find real help to expose your ex. Not a man who travels around the US eating free pie.

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    5. By real help, that does not mean a complete failure as a mother like Bedwell. Legal, legit assistance from those who understand how to work within the system, not become a target of it.

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    6. the anonymous 8:13 is not me.. i was just quoting their advice on 'real help'. When I see expose, I see Connie Bedwell and her life is not something to copy in any way shape or form. Good luck to you.

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    7. Yappy, chillax Im not Bedwell. All I am saying is she needs to find an attorney, or someone who understands the games family courts are playing, and how to protect her daughter from further abuse. Not some pie eating fat man, who get money from already broke, abused family law victims.

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    8. LMAO I didn't mean to imply you were Bedwell at all. Only the EXPOSE part makes my skin crawl. Sorry for the misunderstandin'. We're cool.

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    9. and I agree with your advice through and through. Its unfortunate the system is broken on so many levels and when a mother or father become a target or a label, its hard to undue that in the mindset of some within the system UNLESS a person is able to find professionals who can give sound advice.

      Kinda just like what you said and Billy wouldn't be so fat if he would ease up on his intake. Someone should let him know about that.

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    10. LOL You know you cant tell Billy anything...

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    11. There were a lot of warnings about Bill out on the net for mothers, dating back to when he was tight with we the people. At some point people need to take responsibility for hiring poor attorneys, choosing to go to corrupt psychologists, or trusting a travel agent to fix their legal issues. Even if he was a real live movie maker, I don't see how he could possibly help you with your case. Seems to me the AMPP moms would share any video a mom makes, they support you if your issues are legit or not, ya just have to be a mom.

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    12. AMPP will help you, for the record most of the Mom on his Hit list are hurting...My ex is Jail for hurting my son, he broke 11 bones on a six week old baby because I did not love him. DCF never let the second MRI into the court, which is why he did not get Attentive Murder. AND AMPP trust all Mom until they see they are lying, there are a few mothers who were caught lying and AMPP drop helping them.

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  21. Pretty much the very short and condensed version - yes. And to top it off the reason I went to him in the first place was because of his promises to have all this in front of senators, representatives etc etc. The long version is there is something going on in my case behind the scenes and i have scratched the surface but cannot figure out what that something is. I hate those words too because they make me sound like an extreme paranoid delusional and i know I am not. He might be lol cause he keeps insisting amp, wtp for, Connie, prsley, and more and more are after him. I am part of one of these groups and i am not after him. I simply want someone to look through this stuff papers, pictures, videos, voicemails, doctor reports, cps reports, police reports, etc and see that i am not crazy and something is really wrong here.

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    1. NothingbettertodotodayJanuary 15, 2013 at 8:32 PM

      @ Anon 8:13 - "Pretty much the very short and condensed version - yes"

      You gave Bill money? If so, did he ask for donation or did you offer? Did he ask for a specific amount? Was this before he filmed you?

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  22. Anon @813 - i am all ears at this point. Do you have any suggestions? Fathers rights groups will say dad did not kidnap her because he is dad. As i said, and I know off topic for pie man talks but I am all ears for here to turn.

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    1. Find a protective parents group. Maybe CPPA (California Protective Parents Association) and maybe they could find someone in your area to help. I don't them, but I think they have good resources.
      I wish I had more information or help for you.

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    2. OMG Please do NOT go to CPPA. Please. Connie Valentine is one of their co-creators who formerly spoke out on Fox News in the 1990's how she was raised in a satanic group where she had to murder people when she was a child. Please, no no no no no. CPPA are not the way to go.

      http://www.holysmoke.org/sdhok/sat39.htm

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    3. Ok my bad. Google failed me!!!!!!!!!! Sorry!!!

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    4. Connie Valentine has her testimony still up with pie man. Connie's mothers of lost children's group has been intertwined with AMPP for years. Maria Melinn, president of AMPP also works for Mothers of Lost Children. Apparently it is her affiliation with the lost children outfit that keeps her in pie man's graces even though she is the AMPP president. Either that or it is the groups close ties with the parents rights group in MI that Bill is so tight with, headed up by Dennis Lawrence.

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    5. Maria Melinn was throw out of AMPP for the last youtube post of her son, some of the Mother were mad that she would do that her son, then she went around making up lies about people because the women did not want to support her abuse to her son. I do feel she is the reason Pie Man got some of the Names for his Hit List

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    6. Dennis Lawrence? think yappy think. Familiar name.... sigh. Taking a chance - Bethany Christian dude?

      AnonymousJanuary 15, 2013 at 9:40 PM
      Connie Valentine has her testimony still up with pie man.


      Makes perfect sense for him to keep Valentine. Vet vet vet your sheeple Billy

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  23. NothingbettertodotodayJanuary 15, 2013 at 8:42 PM

    Bill responded to Vicky Lynn:

    Lawless America Vicky Lynn, since Joey was found guilty, I don't believe there is a story about Joey that fits the movie. Denny, I don't know what you mean by "remedy.

    Huh? Isn't the point of to expose corruption? Wasn't there a conspiracy to shut Joey up?

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    1. SAY IT ISN'T SO. NOOOOO BILLY!!! Don't leave Joey, please don't! I mean, the establishment actually GOT Joey in jail Billy and daddy D painted his wheelie in your honor.

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    2. Connie & Presley, please take note of Billy's rather appropriate and correct definition of a portion of the 1st Amendment. I only wish Billy would also defer to his own words.


      Lawless America You're exactly right, Mary. This is waaaaay past freedom of speech. And freedom of speech isn't the right to lie and slander. You have the freedom to speak the truth...allegedly.
      5 hours ago · Like


      BTW, Can someone INFORM Ms Bedwell that the 1st Amendment Right contains a great deal more than simply a right to free speech?

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    3. defer /refer/ errr one of those words ;) laughing at myself

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    4. NothingbettertodotodayJanuary 15, 2013 at 9:16 PM

      ROFLMAO - "You have the freedom to speak the truth...allegedly. Allegedly???

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    5. yappy pointless tidbits of yappy's worldJanuary 15, 2013 at 9:23 PM

      You mean "allegedly" ISN'T written in the 1st Amendment? *faints*

      well I have a good enough excuse, I'm Canadian eh ;)

      (me and da Bieber beaver sorta singer - bestest friends) I think your President knows him too. http://funny-pictures-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Justin-Bieber-MEME_1.jpg

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    6. NBTDT

      This is how Canadians report the American news. If Joey could just get media up there, he may have a chance to prove his allegations. What do you think??

      http://oi47.tinypic.com/ibm5bo.jpg

      Don't do "rugs"

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    7. NothingbettertodotodayJanuary 15, 2013 at 10:15 PM

      Oh quit it, laughing so hard...can't breath....don't do rugs

      On the other hand, I'm so relieved - all this time I thought Lance was doing DRUGS...



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    8. Now you know so now you can relax and continue using your bicycle without any further shame.

      Oh & I'm thinking of calling Armstrong in the morning requesting to be his new publicist. I think I have a good shot, wish me luck!!

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    9. God bless our CBC, its a GOVERNMENT-owned media corp. (true story, no joke) We don't agree with any USA freedom of speech bull-crap. What they tell us is what we MUST believe!!!

      Talk about your conspiracies hehehe

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    10. yappy someone help I have fallen on my RUG and cant get upJanuary 15, 2013 at 10:28 PM

      Now Billy is going to read this blog eventually - every last single word no doubt and will fleeee to Canada to find MORE sheeple!!

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    11. He does read this site, he just doesn't know what to do with us. He can't put us on the naughty list to his minions because they might click on us and they would probably never leave. He is trying to ignore us while vaguely answering the questions we raise like "Why do I love Pie"

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    12. He does? OMgeeeeeee I'm going to pee my pants.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLsEcljjYYo

      Billy I must warn you about Yappy. I WILL fight you to the death if you as much touch, sneeze or breathe on my rhubarb pie!

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    13. someone from Mariatta Georgia reads this page, I can't imagine it being anyone else.

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    14. NothingbettertodotodayJanuary 15, 2013 at 10:47 PM

      @ Gingersnap: I so think you are right, he has no idea what to do with us. Somebody is sending him posts and comments. He's said several things that give it away. The biggie is the pie thing.

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    15. loss for words.... I'll just copy n paste

      Nothingbettertodotoday January 15, 2013 at 10:15 PM
      Oh quit it, laughing so hard...can't breath....don't do rugs (OR PIE

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    16. NothingbettertodotodayJanuary 15, 2013 at 10:50 PM

      My bet is, this is where Bill found out about Joey's verdict.

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    17. I've been forced by my Canadian friends to (FREELY) come back here and state the following in the event Armstrong decides to also sue Ginger.

      Canadians are NICE people and they were just being NICE to Lance and his plight. If Canadian's were to discover Lance did drugs and NOT rugs, you'd see bloodshed on the streets. They love their yellow jewelry up there, it helps to see each other in the snow.

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  24. This is the anon poster about the abuse victims and kidnapped child. I fear there is no help unless I come into a very large amount of money to hire a good lawyer. This is sad. Cps is supposed to protect children and in my case (thirty years under their thumb) they have done anything but that. Thank you for your help and by all means keep it up with the pieman posts. These actually give me a little comedic break in this hectic thing called life. And for the other anon asking if i gave him money the answer is no. If i had any to give, I would put it to a good lawyer who would fix this crap first. You see I still want to believe that good always wins. Finding it harder to believe that though it each passing day.

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  25. NEWSFLASH!!!

    There's only 2 hotels in DC??? wow, that's not good.

    I assume Billy could make BIG BUCKS opening up a Motel 6. "He could leave the light on for you AND a piece of pie on your nightstand. " <<< Don't be stealing MY new slogan, Imma going to copyright it in a few months when I finish my blogging job on Gingers site.


    Lawless America shared a link.
    about an hour ago
    IMPORTANT HOTEL INFORMATION FOR DC:

    We have managed to get some additional rooms at our two hotels in DC. The article below has the contact information. Tell them you are with the William Windsor group.

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    1. Tell them you are with the William Windsor group.
      Or just tell him you're with the President.

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    2. We have managed to get some additional rooms

      So how does that work? Did Billy threaten the people who were already registered so 'surprise' look gang, more rooms. Ok I'll stop now. Gingers blog is zapping my ability to post as yapster. I have reached my blogspot word limit.

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    3. Rumour has it that AMPP has rooms rented too, and they might be willing to share.

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    4. oooo a sleepover. Take me please!!

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  26. I once again am laughing so hard I woke up my Mister. This helps with my withdrawals from Breaking Bad, I can't wait for the next post!

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