When Bill Windsor Speaks, His Nose Grows

So to recap yesterday's pie fight, lets track all that Windsor said.  It all started when we (OReader and Yappy) did a little digging and found out that the pictures that Bill was posting on where he supposedly was, where all stock photos from the internet.  He even went on to mark on a map the exact locations he supposedly went to such as Paramount Pictures and Rodeo Drive.  So the logical question to ask is if you just went to a location and you want to tell your followers that, why would you take the time to find a fake pic on the net to show it?  Then we could see that his facebook time stamp and his claimed locations didn't jive either.  Throw in the fact that he was able to constantly update his facebook and other pages throughout the day and you have us finally say "pants on fire".  He has struck back and decided to show us some pictures of some building he was at, in some location at some time not known.  10-4 Pie Daddy

Then we have the fake news story he made about the police needing to have riot officers out because they knew Lawless America the movie was going to be such a big hit.  Yappy called and found out from the hotel that they have no knowledge of any of that.  No police inquires, nothing.  Just a made up story to try and get his dwindling followers to amp up and re-commit themselves to his cause.  Pie Daddy bragged that he now has 30,000 followers yesterday   Well he linked those supposed followers to this site and my traffic on here decreased slightly from the day before.  So I say pants on fire once more.

The Pie Man then made a fatal mistake when, in his rage at reading this site for the first time, decided to out us to his followers, along with a link to it.  He goes and puts up a picture of some poor guy and says:
"Lawless America This is believed to be a photo of the guy who runs the site. Can anyone confirm this? It is possible that he used the photo of a better-looking guy."
Lawless America No, this is me. Not in the photo, but I posted this. Go to the site and see.
Lawless America No, I just posted this picture and message above. I do not know who owns the site, but I was told three or four months ago that it is a pedophile. I find it especially interesting that he or it has teamed up with the hate group, American Mothers Political Party.
Lawless America The owner/operator and users of joeyisalittlekid.blogspot.com need to be reported to Blogspot and the FBI. Would someone do that on my behalf? This person has also emailed me threats and all kinds of lies and stuff. I consider this serious cyberstalking.
Lawless America FYI: I am not at the Insane Asylum; that is where this picture seems to be from

So that was the pic believed to be me?  "It is possible that he used the photo of a better-looking guy" heh cute way of admitting you lied.  Then you say that I, a person you admit you dont know who I am, have been emailing you threats and all kinds of lies?  And you then ask your lemmings to report me to the FBI.  So how do you know I'm emailing you threats and lies if you don't even know who or what I am in the first place?  On top of that you told your lemmings you don't have time to read your 50,000 emails a day anyway.  So which lie is it?

David Webb Blames Joey Dauben's Demise on Alcohol

http://therarereporter.blogspot.com/2013/01/alcohol-binge-underage-companionship.html

David Webb is the Joey apologists that stuck by Joey's side all the way to the end.  Yes he did cover the trial itself in a balanced manner but leading up to it, he acted as the mouthpiece for Joey as his stories always reflected the Joey Dauben slant.  He even went along with the Joey/Presley "we are about to get married" lie and watched it blow up in his face as she didn't even bother staying for the trial.  Anyway, he makes a few good observations, but on the whole he still doesn't understand who Joey Dauben is.

David's opening statement says it all:  "After sitting through a surreal, six-day child sexual assault trial recently I came away with the knowledge that the least likely of people can fall victim to disaster if they are foolish enough to consume alcohol with a minor who legally cannot give consent to sexually activity."

-least likely?  fall victim?  Its alcohol's fault?

"It seemed impossible that the youthful, charming Dauben who came from a humble background and seemed so driven to be someone someday could succumb to a fate so sinister that it would destroy his life."

-humble is an understatement.  Why was this impossible?

"To the best of my knowledge Dauben was straight, but apparently anything can happen late at night when two people are drinking alcohol alone." 

-well first of all your knowledge of Joey is very limited, in fact its limited to only what Joey told you.  There goes the blame alcohol excuse again.

"It didn’t matter that the teenager, now 20, testified he willingly participated in the sexual activity, and that he came from a broken, troubled home that probably contributed to him being alone late at night drinking with an adult 12 years older than him"

-ummmm, what a horrible statement.  If we are to believe the victim's testimony I would not go as far as say he "willingly participated", I would say the boy wanted out of there but he just didn't say no loud enough to stop Joey.  At no point in time did I hear anything that sounded like the boy wanted this.  What the hell does the broken home have to do with him being alone that night?  IT WAS A CHURCH CAMP!!!!!  It was the responsibly of the organizers to oversee the boys that night, not the parents.

"The Texas youth did not make an “outcry” about the sexual contact with Dauben until the summer of 2008, a year after it happened, when he told a friend, who told a pastor, who told the youth’s father."

-yeah but he did tell someone shortly after the event, and actually this is fairly common in most rape cases that the victim, especially a young boy who had a hard time understanding what happened,, would be scared to come forward.

"Another peculiar element of the saga emerged when I learned a sizable number of people had complained that the blogger unfairly and unjustly accused them of sexual assault and other crimes and improprieties.  A group of people went so far as to start a blog where they could support each other and vent their rage about Dauben’s outrageous reporting."

I and I alone started this blog and I have never been accused by Joey Dauben of anything, much less sexual assault   Can you get anything right David, I mean anything?

"When Dauben took the stand against his lawyer’s advice, the jury obviously saw a deeply troubled man who might be suffering from paranoid delusions and denial. He repeatedly broke down and cried on the stand. It was unclear whether Dauben’s mental problems began prior to the crime he committed six years ago or if they began later, slowly festering afterwards as fear enveloped him about the crime."

-Ahh, finally a sentence we can all agree with

"It’s hard to make sense of Dauben’s relentless, reckless pursuit of villains unless his fear about being discovered led him to it in an effort to divert suspicion from himself. In turn, the subjects of his reports and others in the community probably became fearful of him, leading to complaints to law enforcement authorities and the Ellis County charges. It became a vicious cycle that eventually ensnared Dauben."

-the first sentence is true, the second has no evidence to support that claim.

"Some of the last words Dauben said to me in the courtroom before the bailiff led him off in handcuffs were, “I’m going to take responsibility for this.”

-Joey has no idea what the world responsible means, so how can he take it?

 

Billy Throws His Pies At Us Now

Let the pies fly!!!  So Billy finally finds this site and in his outrage he makes a dumb move, he posts this site for all his lemmings to see (I can see one of them asking Bill very shortly "what is a lemming"?). 

Billy grabs the first pie he can get, and that being the one his former adopted daughter Presley Dauben gave him.  Presley, before she was kicked out of his cult, told the pie man about this site and told him that her dad ran it.  Poor Presley, everytime she lies she gets ratted out.  She knows very well that her dad doesn't run this site, but then again she was never good at the lying game was she?

So the pie man strikes, but he contradicts as well.  He puts up a picture of some hick on his site and says that's me and I'm a pedophile and I have been emailing and harassing him.  He then later goes on to admit to his minions that he doesn't really have any idea who runs this blog.  Then he asks his lemmings to report this blog to the FBI, he would do it but he doesn't want to make another false report, that's what lemmings are for after all.

So we should be seeing his goons and his worshipers on this site shortly, buckle up, its gonna be fun.  Just make sure everyone takes the time to enjoy some pie in the process.

Just a Little Too Much Pie in the Sky?

How does a man who says he has no money, go all around the country filming people with no donations?  Maybe he is exaggerating   Yappy and OReader's BS meter was going off and after a little investigating  it turns out that all the pics he is posting from his time in both Hawaii and Los Angeles are standard stock photos that everyone can find on the internet.  If he really is in the locations he claims, why not put up real photos, why spend the time to find fake ones on the internet?  It also appears his facebook timestamps don't jive with the times he says he is in a certain location?

Pie Daddy also decided to chicken out of his called showdown in Montana.  He claims he has a bad cough and must head back home, but maybe he was home all along.

The Problem With the Pie Man's Open Mic Tour

This is more of a semi-serious post on why Lawless America is a failure (besides the problems with the Pie Man).  There is no doubt that corruption does exist at any level of power.  It has since the beginning of time, and it will until this world ends, I don't think anyone would question that.  The problem is trying to convince your average Joe, who has no dog in the fight, that your situation is corrupt.  Certainly LA has jumped the shark in this regard.

I have no doubt that some of the individuals in the LA open mic tour have a legitimate case.  The problem is they are drowned out by the never-ending side show circuses  To be effective in something like this you must be exceptionally focused and specific.  Who exactly do you have a grievance with and show me proof of why?  That is what you would need to do to get buy in from the general public.

Instead, we have the LA pie tour and open mic.  Any and everyone can go under his lights and talk about whatever they want.  Everyone is corrupt.  No proof, no vetting, no follow up just bits and clips of some long sordid affair.  Now, the Pie Daddy never really wanted to fight widespread corruption, just his own problems so he doesn't seem to be to worried about the fact that LA has no focus.  Bill is much more interested in picking personal fights with different groups and individuals because, after all, thats how this pie tour got started in the first place.  Bill was legally kicked out of the courts, so he will show them, he will start a nationwide tour to build support for HIM, not really any cause.  He will wrong everyone's rights, just as long as everyone understands its about HIM.

Just look at this little sight seeing trip he is planning in DC.  The lemmings have no idea where they are going, they can't even get a hotel at this point.  Bill says they are pretty much responsible for setting up their own schedule.  Other than one meeting together, which will be like a giant blind date as all these internet personalities meet in real life, there is no co-ordination no plan.  This does bother some of the followers, but not Bill.  He is just after some sort of event he can spin as a major success and continue to build followers and pie across the country.

Then we have the LA facebook page.  Its the wild west.  The conspiracy nutcases have taken it over.  Sandy Hook was a government cover-up.  China is working with our Mafia to control the CPS.  Then you have those that are political activist both on the right and left.  Again, someone looking at that page for the first time would get the impression that LA is about any and everything as long as anarchy is involved.  And as we follow these people more and more, that might be exactly what it is about.