Tuesday, May 7, 2013

Lawless America Becomes a Cold Blooded Murder Advocacy Group



As always, there is the truth, and then there is what Bill says.  So here is what Bill said:

LAWLESS AMERICA STIRS IT UP AT YET ANOTHER COURTHOUSE -- CARROLL COUNTY COURTHOUSE IN HUNTINGDON TENNESSEE

Gee, it looks so pretty in the photograph. It's a shame that what happens inside isn't pretty. When I exited the mens room, I heard people all over the courthouse talking about the Lawless America Jeep outside. I was quite the attention-getter all over this small town.

This is the courthouse where Stacy Ramsey and Theresa Deion Harris were found guilty of first degree murder and sentenced to life without the possibility of parole because they were riding in the cab of a pickup when a man in the bed of the pickup shot a boy. Felony Murder Rule -- if you are with someone who commits a murder, you are guilty of murder. One of our legislative proposals is to eliminate this outrageous law.



"Because they were riding in the cab of a pickup when a man in the bed of the pickup shot a boy" is how American Terrorist and murder advocate Bill Windsor sums up the case.  So lets consult the statement of facts that you can find here   http://www.tba2.org/tba_files/TCCA/2008/ramseys_090808.pdf

Stacy Ramsey, Deion Harris, and Steve Smothers were riding in Stacy's truck to go over to Deion Harris' ex-boyfriend's house to beat him.  Ramsey's truck overheated and the three of them decided to carjack the next vehicle that came by and they agreed that they may have to kill the driver.  That unfortunate next vehicle,was operated by Dennis Brooks Jr., a 19 year old criminal justice student heading back home from his night job working at Subway.  Harris, the female in the group, was out by the overheated truck presenting herself as a woman in distress.  Brooks, being the good Samaritan that he was, stopped to help Harris.

All three grabbed Brooks and forced him into his truck and began driving.  They shot Brooks in his hip, a wound that would be fatal.  Screams of pain came out from Brooks and Smothers shot him in the head killing him instantly.  And the story doesn't end there, I will just cite the actual court records to paint the rest of the picture:


"Thereafter, the petitioner suggested that they bury the victim.
The trio decided to cut off the victim’s legs to make burial easier. Further, the autopsy revealed that
one of the victim’s arms and his penis were also amputated. At Harris’ behest, Smothers removed
the victim’s heart, and all three held the victim’s heart to their mouths. Additionally, they repeatedly
stabbed the victim post-mortem with a butcher knife. Next, they poured oil and gasoline on the
victim and his truck and set both ablaze. The petitioner was later discovered wearing the victim’s
shoes and possessing the victim’s shaving kit containing tools. The petitioner was convicted of the
first degree murder of Brooks, and he received a sentence of life without the possibility of parole."

The petitioner here being Ramsey.  So yeah, thats what Bill calls being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Ramsey and Harris have started this crusade to free themselves as they have both decided that they had poor representation and that they should get a re-do.  Of course Dennis will never get a re-do but Bill thinks these monsters should roam free.

This is what Lawless America is about.  As Bill becomes more and more unhinged and deranged, the more violent his rhetoric is becoming.  So too are the zombies that are following him.  We are no longer talking about mothers rights or family court, we are talking about some of the most extreme cases of violence in this Nation.  If you support Lawless America, this is what you stand for...ignorance is not an excuse under the law.







134 comments:

  1. Oh Mr windsor, you are just tooooo much! When are you just gonna realize its over? It's time to go buy a couple hundred black sweatsuits and pairs of purple nikes, gather up the mansonites, drink the koolaid and wait for Haley bop.

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  2. Jesus....

    I just looked up that case. For Windsor to even remotely paint this as a case of injustice is disgusting. Does the guy even know how to read? Actually, I'm glad he doesn't vet. It is making him look even worse, the more he says the worse it gets.Maybe more people will jump ship faster. My God, he is defending killing, dismembering, stabbing, licking human hearts, burning the body, lying, running, etc. Just when I think it can't get any worse.......Billy proves me wrong.

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    1. I was just thinking, how come the canibal guy that wanted to eat us a while back isnt all over this story? Seems he would find it all exciting.

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    2. Allie, I have learned to never say it can't get worse when it comes to Bill. It's the one thing he is successful at LOL

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  3. One thing is certain. Bill's family should definitely be living in fear - of him! This man is a monster!

    How do you do it Bill? Every day I awake thinking there's no way you can hit a new low --- yet there it is.

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  4. Adding screenshot of this nutjob's comment for good measure.

    Click here to view

    http://oi44.tinypic.com/io3c4g.jpg

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  5. And to think some followed him and do things for him but thinlk they are above others, tsk tsk, best check yourself and t he fact u were willing to be his bud untill u

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    1. were ousted by Bill., get help

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    2. The dumb one is talking about me, but she can't express herself coherently. She can't seem to get it though her thick little skull that I was never on the Billy bandwagon.

      Some smart people fell into his trap because they saw something positive in the plan he lied about having. They were even very visible in the organization because unlike the people he now has left, the are do-ers, not whiners. When they figured out that Bill was in the second category, they left. This little anon, didn't figure it out because she's a whiner just like Bill. (oh, and a liar to boot!) ~Toodles!!!

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    3. waves Brenda....oooops KJ lmFao

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    4. As are we, Elizabeth Hope Hernandez. As are we. Ginger has known Khaki for over a year. Well before Bill even started his filming.

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    5. KJ, you have a mental problem, I never lied to anyone dumbass I was admin for one day on that page and my admin was removed and my identy shown not like you puss Im not scared to
      be me instead of your pussy alias KJ go get Laid your in need....fuck u post Away Liz

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    6. You must have an awfully boring life KJ to be so into mine, Need Kotex looser , you are survivor lmfao of what , that dog fits your profile, Bitch now rgis is Elizabeth , I dont give a fuck because you show how sorry your life must be I pity miserable woman as u, you need help your abuse u endured has made u bitter, hum, now post this on your little FB page.......EHH

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    7. BTW your grammar isnt any better, lmao Dumbass **waves**

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    8. KJ Hurry get to your
      Facebook page Hyprocrite Lying idiot, lol

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    9. Who are you to talk about aliases?

      Uh. Yeah. You lied. You said you weren't Elizabeth Hope Hernandez. Check the screenshot. You pretended that she was a friend and talked about yourself in third person. You really like to play the oh woe is me victim card, dontcha?

      Dumdum. Khaki Jackson is my real name. Yep, khaki is a nickname, but it is what people know me by. I played golf and wore khakis a lot. Khaki is such a far stretch from Katherine isn't it?

      Oh, that one day you were admin at slanderfella? Well, it was the most vile and repugnant stuff ever posted there. It is always easy to tell when you are around.

      You weren't scared to be exposed to the world as a potty mouth piece of excrement? Maybe not, but you sure do go crazy with bully power and lies when a member of a goup. Bill was right about you even if only by accident.

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    10. My grammar is better. My spelling is better. My choice of words that aren't filthy is also superior.

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    11. My punctuation is also better. Thanks for the reminder.

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    12. No need to take it to Facebook, hun. You took it to a much larger audience all by yourself.

      Elizabeth Hope Hernandez isn't happy without drama. She is a miserable person with a sad existence.

      Oh, and dear Lizzy, a lady doesn't speak of her intimate life in such a way publicly. But, you're no lady, are you?

      Nighty night, sweetums. Get some beauty rest, your insides need it.

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    13. Khaki, you have class and it shines through.

      I appreciate it.

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    14. you stupid fuck, I was an admin for Sfella, my identy was pulled and I didnt relize it , then I did, and yes your an alias . I never denied anything stupid bitch is all u got is bitchn about grammar you cant stand anyone telling u what you are a lonely miserable bitch, get a fuckn life Doggy

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    15. Go post on your FB lol

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    16. now Blah blah all your heart desires I have a life to tend to and Im done trying to talk to a donkeys Ass whom assumed sooo much Unlike u Im Loyal to identy

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    17. I just realized that this idiot thinks I'm khaki. Haaaaaahahahaha. No. It's me you simpleton. BRENDA. now go call the FBI. Lol. While your at it, hit up the CIA, KGB, YMCA and the MIB just in case I'm an alien. Hahahaaaha. Liz, you still crack me up! Thanks for the free entertainment. LIVE....FROM THE TRAILER PARK....IT'S EHH!!!!

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    18. Dont worry about me Bren worry about Bill , baby he wants your big ass not me I know whom it is cause someone here gave ole KJ up, but unlike u drama bitch I dont play elementary games , btw see u didnt sue the city, Im sure it was u who needed the wired mouth..lol..lol..fteak go to a gym donoughts are bad , Liz

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    19. Run your handicapped, inbred little fingers aaaaaalllll ya want my dear, but tread very carefully when you reference my child. And what, may I ask are donoughts? If you were trying to spell donuts, I have to disagree. I think they are delicious. And what gym shall I go to Liz? The same one you do? Lol. Maybe you can give me a good reference. Dumbdumb, before you try to battle wits with me, you better get some. I feel bad fighting an unarmed cripple.

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  6. Perfect summary Ginger as usual. The latest two cases have made me sick to read. And the comments in support of this on his FB page...sick people are the only ones hanging with Bill. AND within that, I hope they all HANG with Bill. Each and every one of them, that support the way he wants things to be, the take over of the Govt, the freeing of these cold blooded murderers, molesters, etc, to roam the streets, while putting the one's who have protected the rest of society from further harm by these demonic beings. Lawless America is just exactly that, they want to create a completely LAWLESS society, and I am not okay with that.

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  7. I am still trying to figure out how associating with Lawless America will help anyone's court case. I don't see how following a man or group that supports this sort of thing could possibly help with custody. If I were an employer I would think twice about hiring anyone who openly supports this group. All those testimonies on tape, all those folks linked to Lawless, I hope they learn from this mistake. It was a doozy. *~*Redd*~*

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    1. Redd, they still believe in the lie. He never intended on doing anything for their cases. We see that, but they don't. Perhaps this is why most of them are still locked in court battles, and can't seem to get away from it. Sometimes the truth is too easy, and they simply like the drama.

      And you're right. Since Mr. WWW locked them all into his scam, it's a footprint in cement and they will have to live with it.

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    2. I never thought Lawless America would help my case. I did , regrettably, think I was doing something to help the system as a whole by being involved. Course, I didn't once I started noticing he was a bully, liar, weirdo, etc. And as he has made painfully public, we all know that not only has Lawless America not helped my case, but it has hurt it considerably. Hurt it beyond words. And still is attempting to hurt it.

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    3. I know some are still scared of what he will do if they leave, but at some point the scales tip. Right about now they are in as much or more danger if they stay, either from Bill, the associations, or issues in their own cases. *~*Redd*~*

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  8. Quoth Windsor:
    Felony Murder Rule -- if you are with someone who commits a murder, you are guilty of murder.

    It should probably go without saying, but that is not what the felony murder rule is.

    It is endlessly irritating how consistently Windsor sees the need to post outright lies in service of his smears directed at the American legal system.

    In other news, there are further developments in what remains of the Maid of the Mist litigation. (As anyone who has read Windsor's latest screed is aware.) They aren't earth-shattering events by any means, but the filings in the case thus far in May are sort of interesting. Recap coming up.

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    1. @ Attorney, Thank you for keeping an eye on this. For those of us who don't have access to the records, we really appreciate the up dates!

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    2. No problem, Ninja. Here goes:

      Okay. So when we last left the Maid of the Mist Litigation Soap Opera, Maid itself had bowed out, taking the $100,000 check it got from Barbara Windsor (pre-Bill's announcement of the Windsor divorce) and basically declaring itself finished with the case.

      What remains, now, is the judgment that was entered on April 8 in Georgia federal court: under that judgment, Windsor owes the court $29,500 in fines for his contempt.

      Judge William S. Duffey has now explained (this was in previous filings, but it was a little ambiguous) that the source of the $29,500 is the $500-per-day fine he levied on Windsor in a January order; the $500-a-day fine started counting on February 1 and continued until he paid Maid the money he owed them for contempt.

      Barbara's $100K check was handed over on April 1, so the fine stopped piling up that day—and (28 days of February + 31 days of March) x $500 per day = $29,500.

      Predictably, Windsor is pissed about this. After the $29.5K judgment came in, he filed one of his specialties, the Rule 60 motion for relief from a judgment or order. Competent professional attorneys almost never file Rule 60 motions (they're supposed to be for extraordinary situations in which a court's decision is called into question based on some fact that the court inexplicably didn't notice, or on newly discovered evidence, or something of the kind), but Windsor files them all the time—basically, nearly every time he loses a motion.

      His Rule 60 motion regarding the $29,500 contempt sanction, which he filed on April 25, claims that he "was neither notified about a contempt issue nor given an opportunity to be heard"—which is abject baloney; all of us have known about the $500-a-day fine, and then the $29,500 judgment that came of it, ever since they were filed (respectively) months and weeks ago. Windsor also whines that he's been denied his due process rights, that the fine violates the Eighth Amendment because it's a fine of $4.5 million and therefore it's cruel and unusual punishment (?!?), that it denies him "meaningful access to the courts," and that Judge Duffey "has demonstrated pervasive bias throughout this matter."

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    3. [Part 2:]

      On May 2 Duffey, in turn, allowed the Rule 60 motion to be accessible by the public (not all of Windsor's filings are) but immediately denied it, providing "[a] few brief additional observations" in which he points out some of the numerous factual misstatements in Windsor's motion:

      First, the amount of the civil contempt fine levied was $29,500, not "$4.5 million," as Mr. Windsor claims. Second, Mr. Windsor had notice and an opportunity to be heard before the contempt order issued. Mr. Windsor was served with Plaintiffs' Motion for Contempt at the U.S. Mail address he provided. When Mr. Windsor did not respond substantively, but instead complained that he wished to be served only by e-mail, this Court extended Mr. Windsor's deadline for responding and notified Mr. Windsor of the extended response deadline not only by U.S. Mail, but also by courtesy e-mail. Despite having been so indulged, Mr. Windsor continued to ignore the pending contempt motion. Only after Mr. Windsor's extended deadline to respond to the contempt motion passed without any response from Mr. Windsor did this Court enter the Order that Mr. Windsor now seeks to challenge.

      - Docket #382 (record citations omitted).

      Duffey concluded by declaring that any appeal from his order would not be taken in good faith; this means that Windsor won't be able to get in forma pauperis ("in the form of a pauper") status for any appeal, and as a result he'll have to pay full filing fees if he decides to proceed to the federal appeals courts on this issue.

      So we're left more or less where we were on April 22: Maid itself is out of the case, but Windsor owes the court just short of $30,000 in contempt fines, and the federal government is now going to come after him for that money. (BTW, running to Texas, or for that matter Tennessee, is not going to help him evade the federal government.)

      Back on the LA websites, Windsor's description of the latest developments is typical Bill. He describes the recent filings (plus another loss he apparently suffered at the hands of a federal appeals court) as "[t]he crooks in the federal court system in Atlanta continu[ing] to rape me." Lovely. He also asserts that the contempt judgment is for $27,000 (wha?), throws in the same whines about being denied due process, and claims again not to have been notified of the contempt sanction. All in all, a flatly ridiculous response.

      But at least we'll get to watch and see when and how the feds are going to get their $30K. This might not be pretty.

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    4. Wow, thank you.

      Here's a question. Since he forked out the 50K to file in the MO civil court, can Duffey use that against Windsor in some way? He is already in contempt, but to pay another court to simply continue his vexatious title, seems almost taunting. Could there be some jail time out of this? *fingers crossed*

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    5. Once again, Thank You @Attorney for keeping us informed & up to date.
      I really appreciate you!

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    6. The $50,000 is only a bond; it's basically putting money in escrow that will be used to pay contempt fines (and maybe other court fees), if he runs up any, in the Missouri case. (Frankly, I don't understand why the bond was necessary or paid at all, given that he doesn't name any judges or court personnel in his complaint against Ms. Overstreet et al.) If Windsor behaves himself, he'll get all or almost all of the $50K back.

      It won't be Duffey's job, or the job of any ordinary court personnel, to go after Windsor for the $30K he owes from the Maid case. I believe it's the Department of Justice that pursues these kinds of debts; to that end, it's probably significant that an Assistant U.S. Attorney in the Georgia office, Lori M. Beranek, filed an appearance in the Maid case on May 1. (Filing an appearance is basically an attorney saying, in writing, "Hello, court; hello, parties; I'm here, representing Client X.") In this case, AUSA Beranek was announcing that she represents the U.S. government and "request[ing that] she be added in the ... case regarding collection matters."

      So it appears it'll be AUSA Beranek, not Judge Duffey, chasing down Windsor to get the $29,500 he owes the government.

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    7. Just looked Beranek up: she's the Chief of the Financial Litigation Unit of the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Northern District of Georgia.

      This makes her, er, a somewhat more capable attorney than William M. Windsor is. (And, at least when it comes to collection matters, a hell of a lot better than yours truly, too.)

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    8. Alrighty then, I guess we wait to see the fireworks, since, we all know he won't just admit he was wrong and pay.

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    9. Well he'd better figure this out quick if he wants to make the court date with Allie rather than sitting in jail or else hiding out in a van down by the river.
      Walking into a courthouse with that hanging over his head would be ill-advised now, wouldn't it?

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    10. One positive point from the perspective of those of us who would like to see Windsor's abuse stop is that AUSA Beranek is now in a rather good position to discover any financial misdeeds that Windsor has committed. If any of the money- and account-shuffling that the Windsors did in an attempt to evade Maid of the Mist was illegal—or, for another example that plenty of folks here (including me) are curious about, if the 501(c)(3) status Bill has talked about was bogus—Beranek is well positioned to uncover that stuff and refer it to her colleagues within the U.S. Attorney's Office for criminal prosecution.

      There's no guarantee, of course; maybe Windsor has successfully stayed just on the legal side of the line in all of his financial dealings, and/or maybe Beranek will just get the $30K that Windsor owes, consider her work to be finished, and drop the case. But there's the tantalizing possibility that, by placing himself in a position of being pursued by a U.S. Attorney's Office, Windsor has at long last paved himself a road to the slammer.

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    11. yeah that would be a fascinating proposition if someone that high up could get a good look at his books...cooked or not

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    12. If he really is going to plead poverty—"I can't pay $29,500!"—then Beranek will almost certainly "get a good look at his books." She'll have the power and motivation to do exactly that.

      (Another possibility is that the poverty bit is merely a lie for public consumption—and backed into a corner, Windsor will cough up the $29,500 the feds demand and be done with the whole mess without needing to open those books.)

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  9. Talking about anyone who followed him or still does , with all due respect you might want to get to the bottom of why you attract such vile scum as to being the front line . Taket it personal if you want but hey you who helped him should question

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    1. Yes that is an age old question why evil people happen to good people, but it doesn't mean that good people just attract evil.
      Bill Windsor and his associates were never honest about who and what they are. Blaming the casual victim doesn't work very well on this one, up to the point that it became clear that Bill is either bat shit crazy or criminal.
      As for me, I was trying to become active in the world of family and child advocacy. It was most like Deb Justice or Jan Smith who referred me to LA. You will notice that they both still follow him, no matter how low he goes. So at this point we do have to question whether they were in on it or have an intolerable lack of judgement for so called family rights activists.

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  10. Seriously had certain ones been ousted would they be crying or be on his bandwagon
    still..

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    1. Like Elizabeth Hope Hernandez? Yeppers

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    2. Pie Man Zombie HunterMay 7, 2013 at 3:24 PM

      She was never on his Band Wagon, Bill Windsor lied and used her name and she ask for him to stop.... and He went nuts making up kind of lies about her....

      Yeppers, can you please look at the facts before posting foolish crap..... we have the screen shots, Time dated .... that shows Bill Windsor, being told to stop using her name or she is going to called a Lawyer..... That when he said she was part of AMPP and that AMPP is a Hate group....

      Which just shows he just pulld crap out of his Butt because she did not join AMPP until he said she was!!!!

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    3. EHH needs to zip her trap, tired of the drama.

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    4. Pie Man Zombie HunterMay 7, 2013 at 4:10 PM

      I am NOT EHH, I am 45min outside NYC, with some Brooklyn attitude, but if you like to come here Drunk or on Drugs saying all kinds of crap about, what happen, with Her and the Pietard..... I have NO Problems, telling you, that you a foolish moron with NO clue about what happen!!!!

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    5. I didn't say or think you were EHH but your response makes me wonder.

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    6. Dear Anon,
      EHH is too busy to be hanging around here. Why don't you crawl back up into Bill's colon from whence you came? Just because you were foolish enough to join his bandwagon does not mean that EHH was.
      *~*Redd*~*

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    7. Redd, in all due respect, EHH has a foul potty mouth, poor grammar, and the same apparent proclivity for jumping to conclusions despite evidence to the contrary.

      She's also a dumbass liar who got caught in a nice little emperor's new clothes moment when she initiated a conversation about herself in third person. She is a poor reflection of the "mothers' movement."

      Sorry, I have a hard time accepting that anything that comes out of that woman's mouth (or from her little typing fingers) is true. There are lots of real women here who have had significant struggles and hurdles who would never define themselves as a "victim." EHH is NOT that type of woman.

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    8. I was one foot out the door before I was ousted as Allie can attest, and also Jan Smith--if she is honest.

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    9. Pie Man Zombie HunterMay 7, 2013 at 7:23 PM

      Redd, knows who I am .... So does Ginder snap and most the people in here .... I am not EHH.

      So please, Khaki Jackson if you think, that some how I prove something, with that hateful Anon lies about what happen with PieTards and EHH.... you are so wrong!

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    10. Did I address you at all, Pie Man Zombie Hunter? No, I did not. I didn't say you proved a damned thing. I explained exactly what I knew about EHH. You were not included in that, not did I speak to or about you.

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    11. I'm adressing YOU Khaka. You better check yourself. Keep your opinion about other victims of bill to yourself. WE don't attack each other here and if that is going to start I'm out. You have a lot of nerve to start this shit. She's not AMPP, she asked him to remove her from his bullshit early on and was called out as as "hater". She's been through enough as we all have to have the likes of some instigator like you come along.

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    12. Yo, Roo. Nobody seems to be able to read. Did I say she was AMPP?????

      Sweetheart, you don't control me and cannot tell me what to do and not do.

      I didn't instigate it. I posted my screencaps of her lies a long long time ago. They aren't going to come down because you guys think you can bully me. Sorry, that has the opposite reaction from me.

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  11. *waves** Brenda

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  12. I'm not sure who would still be following him if they hadn't been ousted. For me, I was done before I was ousted and me telling him my discontent is what GOT me ousted. Surely most would not still be there, knowing his lies.

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    1. We shoulda just took the kids trick or treating. If only we had a time machine.......

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    2. Good point about the ones who were ousted. It has brought up trust issues between those who were following him at some point and those who have not. It seems there is more of a separation in the movement now, those smart enough to bing before they bungee jump and those who don't. *~*Redd*~*

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    3. I was put on the hated list when I downloaded my video and uploaded it to youtube for safe keeping. He saw it and flipped a gasket, uploading the vid of me saying that I signed the release, but poor sad billy boy lost it. And he has no contact info for me, no email, no phone number no nothing now.

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  13. Dear God of Grudginess pleas take your ass away as well of those who follow you...this is a place where we do commentary and make fun of Bills stupidity there is no room here for grudginess crap...
    Sincerely
    Self Proclaimed Dragon King and may one day that hot Chick off of Game of Thrones be a real life Dragon Queen

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    1. you would be too busy makon dragon to help me put my tassles on when they fall off. *~*Redd*~*

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    2. "Amen from this end of the choir!"

      Seriously? IF Brannon, of all US here, has put the past where it belongs AND allowed US to do the same?....Yeah. Get off that grudge shit & MOVE FORWARD>>>

      There is NOT one of us here that hasn't made at least one mistake & placed trust in the wrong hands. Add in some family crisis, legal problems, desperation, financial problems, loss of hope? Yeah, I coulda easily jumped on that Lawless thing if my circumstances had been different.
      This bitching & gritching? The shit slinging? I'm BEYOND effing sick of it. It's sucking the fun outta the Clubhouse. & we ain't focusing on Windsor or getting those left under his wrath away from him or the danger he puts them in!!
      We actually DO have an exchange of information & ideas, with some hilarity added in at times. (that snit above? ain't it)
      I believe we (Ginger & Snaps) have a huge funny bones. We TRY hard to have empathy &/or respect bones, too. I don't always agree with everything everyone posts~ maybe there's some shit going on in the background I'm not privy to? Maybe?
      No wonder BillWindsor slides on thru the lives of his victims unscathed. In his wake? He leaves them so bitter, they start turning on each other. & while they're virtually bitchslapping each other via comments? He's just tooling across the nation, plucking up new ones along his way, while those that could & should expose him are in-fighting.
      Damn. It'd be great not to be having the goofy, petty ass FaceBook shit over here at the Clubhouse.
      This snit doesn't stop? I can see self done & gone from here. I ain't got a dog in this fight, personally. I was empathizing & learning stuff. & was giggle snorting. & met some cool folks along the way... WAS. Now? I'm just pissy & ill.
      I'm keeping my tiara either way~
      *low waving*

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    3. Yes Petunia. This is exactly what Bill wants. It's why he tells his followers to spy on each other and why he creates fake profiles. His followers are left not knowing who to trust. Billie has been unable to stop the clubhouse. You think he wouldn't stoop to trying to get people to fight each other? Take it outside, please. If Allie were a "Bitlere-spy" with the goal of spying on us, then I'm quite certain she would deserve a medal for having risked so much in all these court cases. Only Billie and his followers need to believe that Allie was a government spy from the beginning set to ruin people's individual cases. And oh yeah, if at any point from now until forever, the FBI were to contact ANY of Bill's associates, friends, family, animals or vehicles, then he brought that attention upon himself.

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    4. Oh, Lord of Grudginess, please hear my friends Brannon and Petunia.......

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    5. :D Ditto NBTDT

      I'll second that motion (or prayer).

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    6. and so mote it be!

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  14. BTW I just watched your divorce video. I have to BELIEVE that the lawless America crew will stay true to form and film her side of the story and not just believe his. She should be on Slanderfella page. *~*Redd*~*

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    1. Who are you talking about? Divorce video? Film which side of which story? Which Slanderfella page? the one by Bill or the clubhouse?

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    2. The post was originally below Brannon's post and was in reply to the video he posted. He had another one on Bill's divorce, that is what I was referring to. *~*Redd*~*

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  15. LOL Bill is ~~~~~ MENTAL!

    There was a couple of fake FB acct's teasing Bill on his new article post. He deleted them but kept up the reply from a Bill supporter underneath theirs. Now it looks like the supporter is calling Billy mental.

    ROFLMFAO

    http://oi43.tinypic.com/35anhfs.jpg

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    1. classic Bill...a nut calling him mental ROFLMAO

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  16. Re: The divorce. Now, does this sound to you all like he's saying the divorce isn't really real? Like they are just 'legally' cutting ties to keep her out of his mess? (last part of his comment below. Minus his 'hater' buzz)

    Julia Fletcher I read about the hoopla and something tells me you're doing this to protect your family. If that's the case, you don't have to tell me either way. Just know this: I appreciate your work and I support you 100%. I hope and pray you will find many many other like-minded patriots fighting the good fight there. It won't be difficult to find them

    Lawless America I went to elementary school in Texarkana; high school and college in Lubbock; and we lived in Dallas for 20 years after we were married. So, I'm mainly a Texan. Julia, it is partially to protect my family. Since they are so terrorized and frightened, they will feel safer if I am not around.

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    1. Hi Ninja! See also my post below. Funny we posted at the same time about the divorce!

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    2. LOL LNM!! Great minds think alike!

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    3. HAHAHHAAA - so he admits he scares the beeejesus out of his own family, cos that's how I read it.

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    4. Exactly Oceans. ROFL. If Billy's not around, no one is terrorizing his family anymore.

      Billy, I guess we don't give you enough credit. Sometimes you DO tell the truth after all. I'm sorry.

      Since they are so terrorized and frightened, they will feel safer if I am not around.

      bawahahahahaha

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    5. He already changed his personal FB profile to separated and living in Dallas. Nice hu?

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    6. It's like he had an upset tummy, took pepto bismol and BOOM, back on track. WTF?

      Delightful!

      Doesn't he realize how quickly he's played this out makes him look like the cold-blooded jackass he is?! Of course Billy, we know Barbara left you a long time ago, but really, can't take the time to pretend you are in deep mourning for Bozzie ... for the sake of your followers?

      He's never given up without a fight. It's either A) a fraud divorce to hide assets or B) she has some seriously dark stuff over his head.

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    7. ***hoofs up^^ ^^*** from Julia's lips to God's ear*** Y'all reckon God knows who Julia really is or does she havta say "hey! it's me________, _______, ________, aka _______"?
      Those praying for Windsor comments? He needs them for sure! YACK~

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  17. Here's one for those wondering if the divorce is real or just to save Barb's money from investigation. I only just read Bill's post. So he claims his divorce should be finalized soon. A website I consulted said an uncontested divorce in Georgia can be finalized in as little as 45 days. Are we really to believe it's uncontested? He also referred to "Barb's home," and claimed he was no longer a Georgia resident. So did he give her the house?

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    1. Something is off. It's not making sense the way he is laying it out.

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    2. Ninja, my spider senses are also tingling. Two and two is just not adding up to four. I guarantee this is going to be the excuse for many future failures.

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    3. This ass bag is just "re-branding" now, last tour de pie was all about family court/custody, this round America is about this jack ass saying that convicted murderers should be freed based upon his opinion. Ding-a-ling should get his act together and spend his last days on this earth with the family he has but no, he will not have anyone tell HIM WHAT TO DO!!
      He's as much as a real patriot and his lemming pies like Julia/Marlene as a $2 Bill (c). He's a nothing and he always will be.

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  18. Lawless America The above post is not by my wife or any Windsor. My guess is Lorraine Tipton, Claudine Dombrowski, or All lie Overstreet.

    It wasn't us fuckface, get a fucking LIFE

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    1. And what's his new deal about lumping us three together? He thinks I'm an ampp now? Lololol.

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    2. Who knows, his pudgy fingers hit that delete button on it.

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    3. Everyone is AMPP in his book that hates him so get used to it! lmao! Dickweed accused us of being associated with this blog for YEARS! Only been since Dec/Jan for me, but hey we all know he's no math genius. Wish I did know what it said, maybe someone got a screen shot of it. Why I'm all of a sudden first on the blame game. Whatev, fine with me Pieturd, bring it the fuck on old man. I will run circles around your fat carcass.

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    4. He's gone bat shit crazy. (Watch, next I will be served with more interrogatories telling me to produce all documents, posts, recordings, emails, videos, etc, that I may have in my possession, custody or control, explaining in detail anything pertaining to my claims that he is bat shit crazy. )

      Free speech only works in one direction in that vexatious brain of his.

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    5. LOl@ dickweed. Or..hell demand we produce all documents, posts, recordings etc.. of every thought we've ever had positive or negative about anything ever. Document it. What a total and utter maroon! He is Daffy and I am Bugs. When is he gonna understand he's a boob?

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  19. I wonder how michigan is doing look at this event https://www.facebook.com/events/535468006494842/
    Melinn and company.

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  20. Wow, I just now scrolled up to read all the posts. YIKES! WTF happened? When did this shiz turn into AMPP vs. NON AMPP vs. EHH vs. Khaki vs. Redd vs. Roo vs. everyone vs. the world? I thought I was on facebook for a moment. Had to look at the header.

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    1. Allie it looks like it did not last long. I hope it is gone. I can say that i feel comfortable enough with three or four 'non-AMPP's" on here to have them call me and tell them my story. Is that still my own stupidity in action? No I really want to think of it as the child who is being abused in those commercials during the eighties and nineties being told to spill it all. Tell a grow up, tell a cop, tell a doctor, tell a teacher. Tell tell tell... Well I am f-ing sick of telling and nothing changing. So maybe I m not telling the right person?

      How long can I honestly go on and see what is happening. I just read a book. Took me three days to get through it. Book was called hostile witness by Rebecca Forster. Very good lawyer crime type of book. Young girl is accused of attacking her step grandfather, and then setting a fire that kills him. She is ocd and a cutter. The author obviously did her homework, she is right on the money about ocd and cutting. Anyway turns out the kid got like this cause mom abondoned her in moms quest for the ultimate meal ticket. Very good book, if you have a kindle or kindle pp, it was free a few weeks ago. The point of this is I sit here at 3am, I can't sleep insomnia, worried for me and my daughter, I am not strong enough to work like llie, I live in one of the lowest pay for employee states anywhere, I can't get a lot of jobs due to my history, and I dont care about any of that. I look at my daughter and i see how she could go down the Sam road as the girl in hostile witness. She has quirks. All it takes is one life altering event.

      So I pry and I love my little angel. I keep putting one foot in front of the other. I just got another fb msg from someone who hates AMPP, calling me a liar. I don't have to prove anything to them. The only one who counts here is my daughter. I love c and l as if they were my sister but i know both of them well enough to know they would tell me AMPP will be here take care of and love your angel. As far as the person who contacted my tonight to call me a liar, go hide in your sad a deuded little world. I have no use for you. I know who you are and i know what you have done. You are a very ugly person inside. You may say some on here re ugly because of profanity? Profanity does not make soeone ugly. It reveals a deeper issue, whether it is anger, hurt, fear, frustration. So many weaknesses are revealed when someone curses. Sometimes it can be quite cleansing. So go preach to YOUR little clan and leave me te hell alone. Leave the people I care about the hell alone too. That means my family and friends, Joey and the snaps, and the moms. Especially my AMPP moms go away like the trolls you are.

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  21. Sorry Allie. Sorry Ginger. Sorry clubhouse.


    I find people who play perpetual victims and users to be really irritating. Instead of asking me to take down the screencap showing EHH lying, she and a friend decided to harass me and block me from responding on fb. She took her fight to fb groups and this blog after I posted the photo on my own personal fb. Sorry, but I couldn't keep myself from responding. I personally don't want to share any association with the woman. She said she isn't afraid of being exposed, but she sure got riled up over her own words being archived and left public.

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    1. Pie Man Zombie HunterMay 8, 2013 at 1:45 AM

      Your whole page is about her, now who is playing victim?

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    2. Victim? Ha ha. That's funny. EHH didn't hurt me. She entertained me, and she just keeps on going.

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    3. She entertains me too. :-) I love her. Lol.

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  22. Sorry pmzh but I have to agree with khaki. EHH is a dumb dumb. Potty mouth, poor grammar, talks shit when she has no idea what she's talking about. In my opinion she deserves everything she gets on here or anywhere else. Hey EHH, " yer son still rapin yer other son?" Lol. You are also a boob. An incompetent one. Sorry, just had to throw in my two cents. In my opinion, she's an idiot and no better than Windsor.

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    1. The part about rapin sons was from an email the chick sent me by the way. Not me saying it to her. Ya, this is a hateful, nasty, uneducated inbred that feeds off fighting with people online cause she has no life. I wonder if shes called the FBI yet. Lolololol. She cracks me up.

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    2. Brenda it was you I recall sending EHH emails protectong your beloved Windsor word is you still are , and this isnt EHH but I have seen all the ones you sent her esp the first one seems you the crap starter ~ non of your fucking business

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    3. Lol. Yes, yes. I adore Bill. The lawsuit, the drama, the fake friendship with Allie...aaaaallll part of the master plan to help my master Windsor. You caught me.

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    4. Pie Man Zombie HunterMay 8, 2013 at 12:42 PM

      Do you know Windsor sent e-mail pretending to be Sean B and so did Cox?

      Windsor fake the note from Allie friend, about the death of a child. just saying are you sure she sent them!

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    5. Nope. Not sure of anything. I guess I really don't care all that much. If its the boob, then its the boob. If its from some dumb chick I don't know and don't care about, then its from from her. I was just entertaining myself. I don't really invest too much in this soap opera. I wasn't reading any of it until the boob filed the lawsuit. I couldn't stand by and let all this go down without telling what really happened since it was about my child. Honestly, I'm a little embarrassed that I allowed myself to waste the time on the EHH thing again. Shame on me. She just tickled me so much before, (or bill, whoever sent the emails) that I couldn't help myself. Iiiiiim sooorrrry lizzy...forgive me? Ill stop. I'm really actually a giggle, funny, easy going chick. I have a pretty successful business based in my ability to get along with almost anyone. I guess I was just bored. I'll smack my own hand and chastise myself for not being nice. The enemy is the boob. He can't hurt me but I will do my part to see his reign of stupidity end.

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    6. @PMZH Yep!! For sure!!! Bitler and dear Crystal bat shit crazy Cox do that crap allll the time. Whenever they are not getting enough drama they create another profile or email address and send themselves some crap!! I have had my computer siezed three fing times to compare the IP addresses and browsing history to prove I didnt do crap they said I did. they are low life drama loving aholes!!!

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  23. Good Morning Ginger, Snaps, AllieGate, MissouriMom, AMPPs, Lorraine, Claudine & our Anon Mommies, @Attorney & any & every one ~
    The sunshine isn't out in my area this am & even some spring showers are on their way.
    I stayed up way too late reading & taking in information that is of absolutely no worthwhile value in the focus of dinking with Windsor. It wasn't even decent fodder for funnies. I think I'm all caught up~ Victimization & re-victimization is fugly. What can be even fuglier? How the person(s) that have been a victim(s) handle themselves afterward. Most do with awe inspiring Grace & Strength~
    I'm scooping up my tiara & hot hoofing it on down the trail with my new knowledge. As, always, I'm gonna own my own snit. I may not always be real proud of it, but, it be mine & I'm stuck with it.
    I have re-adjusted my PieLieScope/Detector. It is beeping loudly with anticipation. I'm ready for a new day of banter inclusive of some giggle snorts from all that is the world of Windsor's absurdity.
    I hope the glitter & Alfalfa I sprinkled over the upper limbs of the Clubhouse have cleared the aura of yicky that was here yesterday. I have grabbed up DustPan & shoveled that snit OUT>

    Ok~ get your coffee & your sense of humor & intelligence & let's get the Clubhouse FOCUSED!
    ***waving @Ninja & Sluggo I forget sometimes to tell y'all how much I appreciate y'all, but I do!!***
    Look o-o I have on new pink boots with bling that Lance (from radio call) gave me~ He's cheating on Bill with me! I told y'all he luffed me! He does!! I won! I won!

    ***waving***y'all watch Brannon's new vid! it'll cheer you up & tickle your funny bone***

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    1. Mornin Petunia! My prediction for today? Bill Windsor will remain a boob and the drama will commence. I hate to be a negative Nancy but.... I promise I will be nice and funny for the rest of the day. Just for you darlin. And congrats on winning lance! He will shut his mouth for you. Lol. That was the funniest part of the show to me. I just listened to it yesterday. How many times did I say " how dare you"? Lol. Sorry. I was a tad miffed at the boob. Anywho....I hope you have a fabulous day and the drama stays to a minimum. ( I had to get that out this morning tho. Ya know, about EHH. But ill behave now. I swear. )

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    2. Awww It's all cool Anon. :)

      You know Billy was on the other end screaming at his computer screen yelling "what do you mean how dare I? I have the G/D right to do what I want, when I want and how I want. You can't tell me what to do...."

      He's such a little dick.

      I'm with P! Let's get the day rolling. Turn on Lord Brannon's new vid, he even does his own stunts! LOL FUN FUN FUN! >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hyU0FniQTo

      The song starts at 1:02 in link below.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQkBeOisNM0

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    3. And he said all that while angrily humping a warm Apple pie. Lol. Oops. Now I'm gonna have to produce all documents and blah blah blah about bill angrily humping a warm Apple pie. Great! How will I ever get all this done before court*

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    4. Anon, have you ever seen our vids? (we have about 25 - 30)

      He was already court-ordered to remain 1000' feet from all pies. hehe

      https://vimeo.com/56580360

      Here's a couple more:

      https://vimeo.com/59514201

      https://vimeo.com/60300372

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    5. he admits he's a delusional liar.
      https://vimeo.com/57956937

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    6. Brilliant!!! At least he can admit it. Lol. That's the first step.

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  24. 1) EHH has a nasty hateful mouth that I just don't like and therefore I have deleted her a few times, including yesterday.

    2) EHH seems somewhat paranoid and gets angry way too fast, believing people are other people or are out to get her.

    3) EHH has had my back more than once when I was being attacked by the internet people, including the Snaps.

    4) I cannot be friends with EHH due to the constant drama, I have enough already.

    5) I cannot be part of tearing her down or attacking her due to two things, it's just not in me, and she apologized for doing it to me and had my back. She is foul mouthed, but has feelings and issues not much different than many here.

    6) It is no secret I do not like some of the attitudes involved in AMMP and am not interested in gender based groups.

    7) I cannot tear down AMPP mother's due to learning a lot recently about DV which I've never experienced. That also does not mean I agree with the gender crap, or am part of AMMP. It simply means I have learned a lot and understand some of it. Several of the AMMPs have been helpful to me. Some have been hateful.

    8) When everyone uses aliases and psuedo names, I understand how people get paranoid easily and assume people are someone they are not.

    9) Bill Windsor is suing me for things I did not do, as well as interfering with my personal custody case.

    10) Bill Windsor, for reasons I have yet to figure out, is out for blood with me.

    11) All this cat fighting is detracting from my original reason for being here, which was to get information from others about Bills abuses on them as well as the vetted information here. (The humor was a nice touch) I have since come to know the Snaps, and value the regulars more than words can say. The intelligence, character, and caring about what's right, underneath the crazy funny digs, is immeasurable. There is a rare mix of humor with the seriousness of exposing a few evil empires that I can't find elsewhere.

    12) Brenda is my friend offline, and while her mouth is right up there with EHH, I will not be a part of tearing her down either. She and I have a friendship outside of the internet that is worth more than these little cat vomit mud slinging fits.

    13) Someone call me when the pettiness and bitch fights are over. Attack me for this all day long if you like, but it won't stop Bill Windsor from harming other innocent families.

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    1. I love you. Lol. And my mouth may be dirty. But at least i can spell the cuss words correctly and im waaaay funnier. But, you're right. This poop is a distraction. I almost forget what the real cause is sometimes. Exactly why I stayed away from it all before. But, the boob forced me back. Foooorced!!!! I will try my hardest to be a grown up though. Sometimes its just too irresistible. I think my fingers may have tourrettes syndrome.

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    2. LOMA @ fingers have tourrettes!!

      I prefer to just keep scrolling when the drama gets too much. I get people like to vent, and it's helpful, but when it's hurtful it's another thing. I just want to focus on the pie disaster.

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    3. Oh wow, dyslexia this morning. *LMAO. Holy smokes!!

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    4. giggle snorting! We're off & rolling!
      AllieGate has great list there & I respect each #ed item~ standing O for AllieGate! well said~

      Yeah Clubhouse! Booooooo Windsor!! Go Team Us!!

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  25. I think this comment is a key point to why people are still hanging with the pie boy. Since NO one googles or bings anything over there, and they just read what utter crap he writes, they remain CLUELESS. (Her comments are just so sickening to me, since I know the whole story.)

    Remember Sue Ellen Howard??? The one who claimed she was her own person, researched and wasn't dumb? Um, ya...

    Sue Ellen Howard hmmm...so the other two suspects were at the scene? Were they under duress? Did they try to help the boy? Did they come forward right away? It all makes a difference. If you are present while someone is being murdered, it can be a sticky situation.

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    1. she may be playing a little coy there as you can't just flat out say the emperor has no clothes.

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    2. LOL yes, you are right about that.

      She didn't strike me as someone who watched her mouth much. She'd be a good one to tell him he has turned bat shit crazy, he's fricken naked and bail. I have a problem with these apathetic followers who don't stand up to him. If more did it, they would see he's sick.

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    3. I wish I could have stood up to him. But you see the problems Allie has? Mine would have been a hundred times worse because my ex has not a caring bone in his body. And Allie has a home. I am staying with friends right now and do not have a place for myself and my child. I could not risk that. I have had several tell me that early on in his postings about me that I should have filed a protection order. yeah thats the answer. Have another court case out there with my name on it. Another protection order when I have asked for 5 in the last 8 years. No thanks. I will just fade away and let sleeping dogs lie.

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  26. LOL OMG this is too funny. DUDE!!

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    Sheri Thomas
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  27. This is like the 70s movie The Warriors. You got the Joeys, the AMPS, the Powerpuff Girls, The Lemmings, the Dads, the Moms, and a few rogues. Anyone ever see that movie? I always wanted to be one of the Lizzies. How's that for irony? ( I don't want to be a lizzie anymore)

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  28. All of you women that can not express a thought without using foul language should be embarrassed. I am embarrassed for you. And whether you are in a cause group, used to be in a cause group or never belonged to a cause group, the rest of us do not care and are sick to death of you attacking and gossiping about each other. I know it's hard, but please do and try to grow up and act like ladies. And if you do not like any of us (the regular Snaps, you the ones that were here a long time before you ever heard of us - which includes Khaki), there are so many other blogs on the www for you to go cuss your little ignorant hearts out on........

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