Tuesday, June 25, 2013

Windsor Goes In To Hiding



Ever since everything went down last Saturday, Bill has gone underground.  His facebook page, which was really the last remaining conduit for communication with his followers, is still nowhere to be found.  He has sent a few smoke signals up their various channels such as some of the state pages and on his own facebook page.  The latest one, on his personal fb page, another lame joke about a sunset and if you know where that is, keep it quiet.  But the key new term he used is that he now admits he is actually in "hiding" versus his story about taking a break a few days before.

No doubt, that after Bill made that post listing specific dollar amounts in terms of past donations, something happened.  Reportedly, it was the internet crimes division within the FBI that put Bill under the microscope.  Whatever it was, it was real, and Bill can feel it.  He will never survive an investigation of any kind mainly because he can't show his paper trail.  He has most certainly taken in donations, and there are plenty of people who can attest to donating to him.  But can he show, on his end, where that money came in, and eventually back out?

The longer this drags out, the more followers Bill will lose.  He can't afford to lose contact with them but since he already told them to forget bothering to email him, what does he have left?  Who is he going to tell about his sightseeing events of the day?  What about all the "haters" he wants to stalk?  What good is the stalking if he can't broadcast it?  I think we are now at the end of the nightmare known as Lawless America, but what we need is the end of Bill Windsor and his scams.  I hope they shut him down for good, because if they don't, he will be back on the road again with some new scam with the same results.

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  1. what is illegal about asking people to give you money and then spending it on trips ?

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    1. several things...the first one being he set up some kind of non profit or at least claimed they would be donating to a non-profit. The second one is he has to show the records, this isn't Lawless America thankfully, you cant just tell the Feds "trust me" on it, you have to show the actual paper trail. If he could show them all that, I think he would be ok because he probably does have "expenses" out numbering donations, but if he can't prove it, it wont matter.

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    2. He wanted the attention of the FBI. Well he got that. Why go into hiding?

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    3. LMFAO at anonymous. If you want to send me money to go to tassle twirling school that would be really super! I don't think there would be much wrong with that. If I claimed to be twirling for charity and asked for a tax deductible donation to go to twirling school when I don't really have a charitible org that would be something a lil different. That being said, I always appreciate when people send me money. *~*Indego (taking gold-digger classes)

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    4. I'm thinking that since the ex Mrs. made a point to specify that Bill had to file the taxes, she knows the truth to their income. Their divorce was finalized this year, so they are joined in the past two, (or how many he failed to file) together.

      Also, Bill has said that Lawless is nothing more than the name of a website and a movie. If he didn't set up a designated organization, that could be a problem with regards to write offs. There are far too many variables here, to simply say, he can accept money, and not report it. What about the 401K money? I believe that is pure income and taxable if he doesn't pay it back. He said he used the last of it, so did he close it out? All things that have to be reported.

      This goes beyond misleading people by taking donations that he said could be tax deductible. It is, or it isn't. Maybe some people found out they weren't.

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    5. Of course it's possible no one has reported him to the IRS. Maybe 14 people when they filed their taxes chose to report to thee IRS their contributions to an entity they were told was a charity. Naturally the IRS would have questions in such circumstances. Those who choose not to pay their taxes can't force others to make the same choice.

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    6. I'll bet a lot of "deductions" by donors were disallowed, starting a chain of events that lead to BW. All these "deductions", if disallowed, now become income to the recipient.

      Further, his various FB pages and websites document this scam. Mail fraud, felony use of a computer, etc.

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    7. Grasshopper, you CAN just tell the "Feds" to trust you and we all do just that when we file a return. If they don't want to trust you they audit you. But initially, we work on the honor system.Where do you people get your ideas about tax law?

      "the first one being he set up some kind of non profit or at least claimed they would be donating to a non-profit." This is a rather ambiguous allegation. You claim he set up "some kind of non-profit" and "at least" he claimed the donations were deductible? If you know exactly what the representation was, please share it. Otherwise your allegations are based on nothing more than what you THINK he did.

      Can a single one of you post a citation to the broad statements you are making about Windsor's responsibility to report the donations he has received? I don't see it in IRS Publication 525, which discusses taxable and nontaxable income. I don't believe the donations qualify as INCOME. I think they can be considered gifts. But if one of you has authority that shows Windsor is supposed to claim the donations, please share it.

      "All these "deductions", if disallowed, now become income to the recipient." This statement is too broad. There are always exceptions. Citation please?

      MAIL FRAUD and FELONY use of a pc? Based on what?

      Is there a single "victim" claiming they gave Windsor money under false pretenses (that the donation would be deductible)?

      Ninja, Mrs. Windsor was free to file her own tax return during the past two years. And "There are far too many variables here, to simply say, he can accept money, and not report it." There are far too many variables to say he DOES have to report it.

      Finally, I don't believe for a minute that either the IRS or the FBI are wasting any time on Windsor. I don't know why his sites are down, but I don't believe it is the work of either agency. You are all doing a lot of wishful thinking.

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    8. Right Susan, but you are ignoring the facts that Windsor said numerous times he was a 501c3. The IRS designates that title. So, they have the rights to know about the "donations" brought in under that.

      And for you to make comments about what Ex Mrs Windsor can do, is stupid. She didn't do it, and she made it part of the divorce for him to do so. Your argument is pointless since you have no idea what the ex knows about their income, joint or separate. You need to read his .com and who the checks were made out to. If LA was his, (non profit or not) why did he have her sign checks? That wouldn't be her income, it would be his. Why would she file that, and not him.

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    9. you do realize that every time you come crawling back to this blog to post on it you are admitting that this blog owns you? Go back to your corner and talk to your ghosts, they are the only thing that will talk to you, or at least that's what you think. No one here is even remotely interested in your opinion

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    10. Pie Man Zombie HunterJune 25, 2013 at 2:34 PM

      I wonder how many of his followers are going to be arrested with him.... http://www.ksee24.com/news/local/3-Arrested-for-Taking-Donations-Under-False-Pretense-182110851.html

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    11. Pie Man Zombie hunterJune 25, 2013 at 2:42 PM

      It is important to determine why the wrongdoer told the lie. The wrongdoer must intend the false representation to defraud the victim. Intention to defraud the victim exists where the wrongdoer planned to unjustly acquire title to the victim's property by means of the untruth. That is, the wrongdoer will have planned the false representation in advance and will have calculated to deceive the victim into transferring title by way of the false statement. Telling an untruth, in and of itself, will not subject the liar to prosecution for false pretenses.

      The victim of false pretenses must have relied on the false representation. The false representation must be the reason, or one of the reasons, that the victim passed title to the wrongdoer. It does not matter how gullible or naive the victim would seem for believing the representation; the wrongdoer is still guilty. On the other hand, to rely on a false statement, the potential victim must believe it to be true. An individual who does not believe a false representation but passes title to the statement maker anyway does not rely on the representation, and the statement maker will not be guilty
      http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/false+pretenses

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    12. Pie Man Zombie HunterJune 25, 2013 at 2:46 PM

      asking for money when he knew it would not be in Sundance is under False Pretense..... I just feel that alot of his followers, who knew he was making up lies to still beg their friends and family for money need to be arrested too

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    13. Pie Man Zombie hunterJune 25, 2013 at 2:52 PM

      like some of the people in PMA, who knew he was full of it but supported him because of their personal feeling for AMPP

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    14. You know what they should do? They should have a program where anonymous donors can report if they suspect tax fraud. Oh wait they have one. You know what would be great though? If they had programs to award tax payers who report cheats. Oh wait, they do! Now you can't tell me they have laws and regulations cause that would just be asking too much.

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    15. Anon 1:26 is just plain wrong. Even gifts, if not handled properly and within certain dollar amounts, are taxable income.

      You axed for citations, how about a few if your own? Publication 525 is not the entire tax code, and I'll bet few have every read this ever-expanding, voluminous code, much less understand it.

      "Grasshopper"!

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    16. That was why I asked the original post. He hasn't taken title to anything. He asks for money to do a movie and then travels about filming stuff. Okay it's a shitty movie and all he has to do is eventually submit it to Sundance, which doesn't accept every movie anyway None of that is a crime. This "Blog" continually provides evidence that he is doing something for his absurd movie.
      As for the IRS he says he is a 501 c 3 or a non profit if its not true its not really a crime to claim that the IRS would reject his filing I guess the donations would be income to him if he pays it to himself or it was directly payable to him, otherwise he can claim business expenses of LA against the income and no tax liability there.
      If he's not a 501 c 3 then the deductions would not be allowed for the donaters but that only becomes an issue if they are audited
      There is just no crime here

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    17. @Anon 11:09: EXACTLY!

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  2. How interesting that he loses his main source of communication, and no one is really asking what happened. Some vague report on one random state page, and that's it. No mass panic, not much concern at all really from his people. A hand full of brown nose comments on his personal page to give him his ego boost, but really not much that's genuine. Strange for someone who boasted about how many followers he had. "oh if you know where this picture of the sky is taken, don't tell." I'm thinking even the brown-nosers are tired of his drama games.

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  3. For Curtis Butler http://youtu.be/_PzpXe-5Iew

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  4. I am one of prolly many who contacted the FBI about him. I hope they arrest him.

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  5. The Mansonites are saying he is scared for his life and someone called him with a death threat to him and his grandchildren.

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    1. ZZZZZZzzzzzZZZZZ He's still spouting this crap? And they are still buying it? Ridiculous.

      He really needs to stop using his grandkids for drama and buzz. It's sick. He doesn't even have contact with them. He is such a sick bastard. I am not surprised his daughter won't let him near her children.

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    2. How long beforen I get blamed for the latest death threat?
      I see why his little pi Ms, woodhull wanted my phone number now.

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    3. Just doesn't want to admit he's hiding from the law.

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    4. Pie Man Zombie HunterJune 25, 2013 at 6:29 PM

      hey I was blame once of that crap on the bog blog, by him under a fake profile.... he is a coward

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    5. Legally Kidnapped made an FB status about the LA page being gone and one of the lemmings piped up about the threats. Said they were made by phone. Someone questioned whether the calls were recorded and of course that went over well. Lol. Then Connie Fielding commented that the boob was basically a saint. *puke.

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  6. Did you all forget, that Bill had a claim that he was on a hit list from the Obama Administration, google that and the wacky way it unfolded. Just put in Phelan, and Windsor and White and see what popped up(google buttons). Well, were false reports filed with Officials on that as a total ruse, gamed for P R purposes.
    Well, Bill is big on filing stuff with OFFICIALS, so, was it just a matter of time before Bill got his come to Jesus time, now unraveling in assorted latest: STUFF

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    1. LOL Nope, how could we forget that. Everyone who read that article has laughed quite a bit about it. It got about as much laughter as his "constitution is void" PR story.

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  7. Hey. Ginger.... Where did you get the picture of my cat? Are stalking me??????

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    1. I just have well placed "cams" up all around...I was hoping for the best seat in the house for piemegeddon since I bought all this popcorn. Now I guess it will never be

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    2. http://www.amazon.com/101-Things-Popcorn-Christina-Dymock/dp/1423606892


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    3. WOW- popcorn has it's own month!!

      October is National Pop Corn Month

      who knew?

      ;)

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    4. My wager is still that he went to Ga to pick up his left over t shirts and get his crap out of babs house. Salt lake is a major flight hub. Just a guess..

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  8. Eh.. Whatever.. Come on over. We are havin a kill bill movie marathon.

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    1. I'm more down with slow excruciating torture by forced document production

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    2. Case in point:

      tinyfeetnhandsJune 25, 2013 at 6:16 PM
      How long beforen I get blamed for the latest death threat?

      tinyfeetnhandsJune 25, 2013 at 7:02 PM
      Eh.. Whatever.. Come on over. We are havin a kill bill movie marathon.

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    3. Did anybody else hear something?...... Nope? Oh, carry on...

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    4. I wrote about the movie last night and today we have him crying death threats. Interesting timing. I'm glad I'm not the one who will have to figure out if he's flat out faking it or truly believes these things.

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    5. Some people just have no humor...

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    6. Maybe I'll make a movie about titled Kill Tiny Boushie. That would be funnier.

      I'm just sorry Bill has brought this level of stupid and humor here. Too sad.

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    7. Wait....what!? Did you just print a sarcastic comment that if taken out of context could be construed as a death threat? Yes. I think you did. You typed 'kill Tiny Boushie', while talking about a movie title. Oh shit, call the fbi.

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    8. You fool.

      Did you know Boushie, the same one that brags about what he's going to do to Bill when he sees him, the one that is so well armed with ammo that can shoot through a vest is sooooo afraid that Crystal Cox will hurt him that he has a protective order? Yep. He posted a tape of Cox being served with the order. On youtube. Look it up, under tinyhandsnfeet. But he thinks it's OK to taunt and harass Cox with vile threatening e-mails and a blog using her name. She can't fight back, can't say a word - there's a PO protecting that tiny little scared man behind the key board.

      Does your anger at Bill for lying to you and anger at yourself for falling for Bill's snit really justify that kind of behavior? If so, what you think or say to me couldn't matter less.

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    9. Wow I guess I was not done. But I will get one last rant out. Thought they were all gone after the fifty plus comments I made in other places but I guess not. He has an RO against her to keep her away from him. I have one against my ex as well. There are times I fear him and then other times I feel safe. Right now? I feel safe, the safest I have felt in a long time. That's cause I have a very good male friend in the room right next to me and if my ex were to show up here, this friend would defend me and my child. So save for the bullet my ex threatened to put in my head, right NOW I do not fear him. Does not mean I do not deserve the RO I have against him. The above was just mean and nasty. Now you won't let this BS go nbtdt.

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    10. NBTDT.....we have all seen the video. And no one cares. Are you eluding that if men get PO against psycho women that they are a pussy? Seriously? Your obsession with Tiny is really making you look less intelligent with every comment.

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    11. Agree with Anon--NBTDT really is freaking obsessed with Tiny and it's irritating. Just stay on your side of the clubhouse NBTDT and let Tiny alone.

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    12. 1) @ 3:35 AM - You are a liar. There is no video. Boushie posted a voice recording of the PO service. You clearly don't have facts, are you calling Cox psycho because your Manson like leader does and it's cool to be part of the gang?

      2) @ All Anons: You are without a doubt the most incredibly naive women I have ever run across. I have never seen a group of women so determined to repeat the mistakes and choices that put them in family courts in the first place. But I'll make a deal with you: if you don't attack me for pointing out the truth, I won't say more truthful things you don't want to hear.

      3) @ 2:47 AM: Your double standard is galling. Go ahead, defend Boushie - and I won't feel a bit sorry for you knowing that you are unable to make good choices when it comes to picking men.

      4) @ 8:53 AM: your irritation is not my concern. You don't like it, skip it or stay on your side of the clubhouse. If Boushie wants to be left alone on this blog, all he needs to do is quit making reference to death threats, movies with the name Bill in them, any kind of "killing tool", Bill's travel schedule, what he's going to do when Bill comes to MT, etc, etc.

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    13. STALKER........

      I dont really feel like engaging in any self centered, narcissistic, obsessive stalkers with over inflated egos and delusions of self grandure, like Bitler..Or other people... today.

      Oh, and Fuck you!

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    14. Tiny if you end up in jail don't bother calling the blog for bail.

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    15. *clapping* @ NBTDTs post.

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    16. Hey NBTDT, I apologize for my part of...whatever that was the other night. I understand your concerns but not some of your more extreme conclusions. I will try not to comment on further threads of yours on this subject, but to read with an open mind, waiting for a third party reference that supports your larger fears.

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  9. are we picking numbers of days till Bill's pie is out of the oven? Not sure if I believe this is the end given the way Bill has done his drama queen shutdowns before. I still think this is a prelude to a fundraiser.

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    1. My money is still on asphyxiation on his own vomit.

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  10. Hmm. Did he come out of hiding long enough to say something? I haven't looked today. Twas busy defending myself against his BS lies at the courthouse today. Actually, I was just sitting there, but the lawyers were busy.

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  11. What is with BILL, and Utah, or yeah, Bill and NSA, and Putin, and bytes on all extracted thumb-drives. Do you all stand by for the next Bill P R release, that he broke the code in Texas...?

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    1. Fraganon, I see you found more pot to smoke. Do you grow your own or buy it at one of those Denver rallies?

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    2. Speaking of TX....I thought that sun set pic Bill posted looked a little like the view looking west from the Dallas area this PM.....

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  12. I'll bet his toenails are long. And yellow.

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    1. hahahahaha

      Now, that's funny.

      And icky.

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    2. LOL- I so did not need that visual!!! GAHHHH creepy crawlies....

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  13. Oh Please, you make him sound like a recluse Howard Hughes, holed up in a VEGAS hotel, before
    Phelan does a book on the Hidden Life. Well both were from Texas, and you never googled White and
    the link to SIR BIll, as the story line was cooked up, same old same old tired Bill, and his
    KOOL CAL KOO KOO birds.

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    1. I googled it and found nothing.

      Post a link.

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    2. go to sleep fraganon 1:10am, the fogginess from all the pot will clear by morning. you try to sound smart when you're high but it's always a fail.

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    3. Interesting reference to Howard Hughes. He and his project the "Spruce Goose" were ridiculed for many things, not the least was the expense and endless delays.

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    4. @LNM: What are you on?

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    5. http://www.evergreenmuseum.org/the-museum/aircraft-exhibits/the-spruce-goose/

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    6. Whole food vitamin (3 times daily), B vitamin complex, plant based Omega 3, probiotic with digestive enzymes,raw green super food, aloe, gluten free and mostly organic diet and limited processed and no fast food. And yourself?

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    7. Hmmm, that doesn't do much to explain your behavior. You make the most off the wall connections.

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    8. To 12:14 anonymous --

      LNM is one of the most sincere people on the blog. Her vast knowledge on many literary subjects would put anyone to shame. Whatever your issue is, it's obvious you're using anything you can in an attempt to kick LNM. Please focus on your own issues & maybe your life would improve.

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  14. Pie Man Zombie hunterJune 26, 2013 at 10:47 AM

    We try to operate with the philosophy that there are no bad travel experiences. One of our 10 Rules of the Road is “Make the best of every situation, If it seems boring or ugly or wrong, look again.” Getting a traffic ticket on Day 3 of our 148-day trip was a bummer because we weren’t guilty. But our encounter with Officer Vincent Passarelli became one of our most told stories and it became a running gag on the trip. Then it ceased to be funny when we fought the case in a kangaroo court, and I was sentenced to a week in jail for speeding . But it became funny again when we appealed and got our fine back (fine paid in lieu of a week in the pokey).

    http://www.travelpod.com/blog/2008/12/08/washington-dc-local-expert-bill-windsor/

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  15. Here's the best part...the line at the bottom:

    "Be the first to like this." Priceless. (Where are the Indians when you need them?)

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  16. Ginger:
    I'm more down with slow excruciating torture by forced document production.

    Story of my life!

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    1. lol, I hear ya.

      Don't you think that would be the best form of torture (not to mention the karma) for our vexatious litigant Windsor?

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  17. Busy, busy, Billy today. Bless his wittle heart. lol.

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  18. If people actually sent BW money, payable to LA without a TIN, they deserve to be audited.

    If they sent money directly payable to BW, they should have their heads examined.

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  19. The email from the boob today was beyond ridiculous. Lol. The court in Mo is just shutting him down all over the place. Lol. What. A. Maroon!

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    1. Do share, please...

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    2. The new docs he filed for the Mo case. I won't post them here but trust me. HILARIOUS. It's almost like he's a mentally handicapped 8 yr old that isn't getting his way.

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    3. Can you post a link to them?

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  20. TFNH - just read your edits on Wikipedia. Funny. Using a spell checker probably would have made it past the radar.

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  21. Pie Man Zombie HunterJune 27, 2013 at 1:02 AM

    BILL WINDSOR OF LAWLESS AMERICA IS TAKING A SHORT BREAK FROM FILMING TO ATTEND TO PERSONAL MATTERS. IF YOU KNOW WHERE THIS PHOTO WAS TAKEN, YOU DO NOT KNOW WHERE HE IS.

    I am not here, but it does look delightful. The only scenery I am seeing tends to be the four walls of a hotel room.

    The folks in the room next to me last night had a great time. I've never heard anything like it. I was blushing, I imagine.

    I did a lot of research on places to live, and I thought I had things narrowed down pretty well...but photos can be deceiving. Little is easy.

    I filed criminal charges against Curtis Butler of Springfield Missouri today.

    To reach Bill Windsor and Lawless America, email nobodies@att.net

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    1. Curtis shouldn't make a video when he's drunk.

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    2. I must have missed the video.

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    3. Where are all of the Bill updates being posted?

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  22. GOD. Was just readin all the comments here and nothinbettertodotoday sounds like an angry, bitter bitch that needs to get laid. Maybe she has the hots for Tinyhandsnfeet and that's why she's obsessed with him.

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    1. That has been my guess too, I just didn't want to say it. She's much like Bitler in many ways,always has to be right, superior to everyone, and smarter than all "you women".(her words) she thinks Google has the answer to everything.

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    2. Pie Man Zombie hunterJune 27, 2013 at 10:38 AM

      I do not know why, she is the way she is, but if she thinks your statement is below the belt..... She should remember she has said to me, no wonder I fail in all my relationship and no man can love me ... not knowing anything about me but just what Bill wrote

      NBTD, Web and Susan just skip over there post They have personally issues that make them always have to be right, even after that have been proven wrong ...they go on a spin campaign and name call to try to win something that they know is wrong

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    3. PMZH,

      I think you meant to write, "NBTD, Web and Susan just skip over their posts."

      I would agree, and I would also include Mr. Pheming in that list of trolls. Finally, I would respectfully caution the admin on what you get when trolls are allowed to reign...CRICKETS.

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    4. Oh, sorry I missed all the fun. You silly little groupies couldn't be more off the charts wrong if you were being led.

      Oh wait...you are being led...by any swinging prick that looks your way. That's how you get into so much trouble and ended up losing or fighting to keep your kids.

      Angry? Not by a long shot. I am highly amused by the fact that I have rattled your cages enough to attack in groups, make assertions re: my sex life and call me just about every name in the book.

      Yep, I am superior. I have a professional job, make lots of money, I own land, all my bills are paid (well, except for the brand new Taj Mahal of a horse trailer I just bought for my precious babies - but not to worry, it's a short term loan) and I do not NEED to trade sex so somebody will take care of me or fight my battles. I would explain the "partnership" to you, but you probably wouldn't understand.

      As for Boushie, call it an obsession, call me names, say whatever you want. I'm laughing all the way to the bank. You see, that profession that pays me so well is one that requires recognition of bullies and the ability to eat them for lunch.

      As regards this blog: I was here when Gingersnap started it, I'll be here when Bill Windsor and the rest of you are gone............

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    5. Oh, BTW: I referred to you as silly little groupies but really you are bullies too, that have formed a mob. I stated my objection to Boushie's threats and you attacked me for it. If I'm not going to take his crap, what makes you think I'm going to take it or run away from a bunch of little girls?

      This is you and Boushie:

      Bullying is the use of force or coercion to abuse or intimidate others. The behavior can be habitual and involve an imbalance of social or physical power. It can include verbal harassment or threat, physical assault or coercion and may be directed repeatedly towards particular victims, perhaps on grounds of class, race, religion, gender, sexuality, appearance, behavior, or ability.[2][3] If bullying is done by a group, it is called mobbing.[4] The victim of bullying is sometimes referred to as a "target".

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    6. Did someone hear something? No? Oh well..

      You aren't worth wasting the sweat off my ass on, go F yourself.

      Cease and Abate right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    7. You are too funny.

      I wish I was as good as Sluggo with the keyboard. I don't know where to find the little funny faces that are laughing....

      Oh well, picture this in your mind every time you say "Cease and abate" - me, LMAO.

      Picture this when you add "right now" with a whole bunch of exclamation marks - me, ROFLMAO.

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    8. And SHE'S rattled OUR cages? Lol! Hmmmmmm......I am also amused. "The ability to eat them for lunch" aaaaaahahahahahaha. This broad is a hoot! Cmon honey! Write some more funny stuff!

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