Wednesday, October 29, 2014

William Windsor Has Been Arrested!!!!


It seems that the civil court hearing was the least of Bill's worries yesterday and into last night. The saying "don't mess with Texas" should be rightly applied to the State of Montana as they are the ones that don't seem to take criminal activity lightly.  Immediately after the hearing, Bill was arrested and sent to the Ellis County Sheriff's Office for incarceration.  He is wanted and should be extradited back to Montana on 3 felony counts of violating the PPO.  Bill of course has been flaunting and taunting that PPO order ever since it was handed down...and now it seems that the law really is the law.  The good news for Bill?  He can get back to being up close and personal with his buddies down in the cell block as they swap stories of judicial corruption and wacky conspiracies.  Maybe he can stay in the same exact cell that Joey Dauben stayed in.....oh the irony.  He better enjoy his stay in Texas as its quite cold up in Montana.....and for him its going to be cold in more ways than one.  Sean Boushie, his wife, and the University of Montana get the last and ultimate laugh as Bill's criminal activity has finally caught up with him.  I applaud all of them, along with the DA who is prosecuting this.

All jokes aside.....well nah lets keep em coming for at least a week or so, Bill's entire life just came to a crashing halt.   His nationwide stalking and defamation tour takes a way back seat as he must now fight for his freedom....and not in a patriotic sense. Will he defend himself pro-se? Will the State he called the most corrupt judicial system in the entire country let him off easy? Will he be on suicide watch?

The only message I would leave him with is this:
Numbers 32:23 - But if you do not do so, then take note, you have sinned against the Lord; and be sure your sin will find you out

196 comments:

  1. "But I never lie and haven't even had a traffic ticket in 30 years..."

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    1. He can also delete from his padded resume, "I have never been arrested, never been charged with a crime..."

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  2. I tip my hat to Mr Boushie today. Great job!

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    1. Ditto! Maybe now, the Boushie's will finally be free of all the harassment and defamation Windsor has inflicted upon them--and Cox will soon have her day as well, for getting Windsor to continue her attacks against them.
      **Fist bumps** Justice is coming.

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  3. So the number 92 was the number of cell mates who want to "date the pudgy white guy"?

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  4. the ECSO has a very strict work program for all inmates. Bill gets to work for the first time in his life

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  5. I suspect it was a long night and a few people got some well deserved rest. They'll update us with what they can when they can. As long as his info is listed on that site then we know where he is and that his behavior is being monitored.

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  6. yeah I would say quick outline version is the special exception on jurisdiction was granted, they spent a lot of time on Anti-Slapp deadlines finally deciding they can hear that later this month. Next week is his public figure status hearing.....I guess we have a nice little new nugget to add to that fact

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  7. Forget about lice and bed bugs, Montana jails are teeming with ticks!

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  8. Is it just me, or does his mug shot look like a dating profile picture? Complete with cheesy smile and come hither look?

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  9. MT should be picking up Windsor and driving him back to MT because this is an out-of-state felony warrant with ESCO holding him for MT. Does anyone have a copy of the MT warrant to download or URL to share, here... thanks.

    I just hope Bill is not "working" in the law library :/

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  10. Paranoia is reigning supreme in shower stall 5...

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    1. He'll know what not sleeping is really like...

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    2. Petition for security protection now...

      "But I'm a public figure!"

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  11. My question is, if Windsor has consistently claimed he is broke, and in his "farewell youtube" he did last year, when he said he spent the last of his money on the trip, which he keeps telling the lemmings is why he can't finish their "movie," where is this money tree he keeps tapping into?

    All the money for the litigation over the past year? 100G in bail? I'd say, the "movie" just isn't important to him. His vindictiveness takes top priority. So, when he tells the lemmings he wants to help them, it's just another Windsor Whopper. SMDH

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  12. I am sitting here cradling my driver's license / confidential crime victim address in my hand - and giving thanks.
    I have been told that just prior to yesterday's hearing that Windsor attempted to either add me or a friend of mine to his Texas lawsuit - in perhaps his attempt to figure out a way around my confidential address. WHEW!
    I cannot begin to explain the danger Windsor would have placed me and my boyfriend in by broadcasting our address.
    So thank you Sean Bouchie and everyone here on Joey Is A Little Kid.
    MUAH!!!!
    Renee' Harrington - Michigan Officer Involved Domestic Violence

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  13. What did Windsor pay 100G bond for; he can't bond out of a felony out-of-state warrant (that he is currently in jail for and waiting pick-up from MT).

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    1. Timeline check: was he arrested twice? Released on bail and then rearrested? Not real clear if he was there all night?

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    2. Sounds like a glitch in the system. Like, he paid, they let him go, realized their mistake, and re arrested him.

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    3. Anon 11:26 and 11:33, I think he was there all night.

      I don't understand what the 100G bond is for if he in in jail on an out-of-state felony warrant ... and he's still sitting in jail (waiting for MT to pick him up as is standard procedure on out-of-state felony warrants).

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    4. I have heard that the bond and release part was a mistake.....so they re-arrested and I guess refunded his bond. Not sure on that, but it would fit with the timeline

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    5. There is just no such thing as bond on an out-of-state felony warrant in the "holding state." Released by mistake? What a mess.

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    6. well, at least they caught the mistake fairly quickly. Windsor has said he is 'homeless' and the only addresses he has are PO Boxes. That? would have been a real mess!

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    7. Good Lord, another lie passes Windsor's lips - where has he been staying. Homeless. Pffft. I hope the "homeless" part was well documented by law enforcement because all I see is a SD address on the ECSO booking page.

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    8. He looks well fed for being homeless...Is it legal to give a PO Box when you have a physical address in the state you were arrested in?

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  14. http://i61.tinypic.com/sqgnjk.jpg

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  15. The answer there is that he didn't pay any bail or bond in Ellis.

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  16. Con Air 2

    A newly released ex-con, a notorious stalker and former US Seal find themselves trapped in a prisoner transport plane when the passengers seize control of a flight from Dallas, TX to Missoula, MT. Ramon 'Sally-Can't Dance' Martinez, Billy "Box Car" Windsor and Al "Mad Hatter" Anastasia, battle the law and themselves in this non-stop action thriller.

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  17. Rumor has it one Mrs Barbara Gray Windsor made a special appearance at ESCO.

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    1. How on earth could she get there that quickly from GA? Makes you wonder if she's really been with him in TX the whole time then. Hummm.....(Did she pick up the Jeep)

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    2. sometimes I just like reading out load the definitions of words.....today's topic is:

      Aiding and abetting generally means to somehow assist in the commission of a crime, or to be an accomplice. It involves a plan to commit a crime or to commit acts, the probable consequences of which are criminal

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    3. Well, I'm still wondering why his booking info has a SD PO Box when he lives near Ellis Co. in TX.

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  18. "handling his legal affairs"

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    1. For all those with sympathy for Barbara, trust me, I've known them for a long time, if something is up, and perhaps there isn't, she'll be knee deep in it too.

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  19. If he was telling the truth and has never been arrested, under a felony warrant, do they now have his fingerprints and DNA? If so, wouldn't a "hit' be nice somewhere? Do you need to be convicted or just charged to give DNA?

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  20. There hasn't been a refund like that since Mighty Aphrodite.

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    1. Make that "unwanted" refund.

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  21. "Maybe he can stay in the same exact cell that Joey Dauben stayed in..."

    LOL

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  22. New info posted:

    OUT OF STATE WARRANT/MISD-2CTS-VIOLATION PROTECTIVE ORDER FELONY 3CTS VIOLATION PROTECTIVE ORDER

    100,000.00 Bond

    Ellis County Sheriff Office


    MONTANA / WILL NOT TAKE OUT OF STATE BOND

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    1. Barb, guess you'll be catching a flight to Montana, bring your mittens!

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  23. now the lemmings are rallying to bill

    Glen Gibellina Does not look good for Bill Windsor....http://elliscountysheriff.com/index.php...

    Oh well, what the hell, can't mourn forever, gotta move on with life

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    1. Just did something that will add a tiny bit of misery to all of this for my main man Bill, completely legal of course.

      Snicker......

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    2. His arrest file is public............

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  24. Well, the Bill followers are finally fretting over Bill. They've obviously read over here, as they always do & realized their Bill is locked up.
    Dear Windsor followers: Mrs Windsor, that woman that Bill has claimed left him? That she was so in fear of her life from all his "haters"? Yeah, her! She has his cell phone & his Jeep & all his plunder, because they live together! Mrs Windsor can fill you Windsor followers all in on how & why her "ex-husband" that she was with yesterday is now incarcerated. She's his ex on paper only. Period. Derrrrrrrrrrrr.
    Perjury much? Windsor lies even to those that have staunchly supported him. That's low. Even for Windsor, that is low.
    Mr Windsor has stalked Mr Boushie for years. The state of Montana is fed up with Windsor. Montana was not playing around. Neither was their Supreme Court. States make laws to be followed. Windsor repeatedly violated those laws. Hence, his current incarceration.
    If I understood correctly? There are even more charges waiting for him in Montana. Whenever Montana decides they have the free time and manpower to fetch Mr. Windsor, they will! Until then? He will be incarcerated in Ellis County, sucking up Texas tax dollars.
    As a victim of Mr Windsor's repeated stalking? I can assure each and every follower of Windsor, that once he decides to turn on you? You can join the rest of us on his "to be stalked" list.
    Mr Windsor's arrest had nothing to do with the hearing in Ellis County, Texas in the 40th District Court yesterday. Windsor was present for the entire hearing.
    His arrest and charges are something totally separate. The warrants were issued well in advance. Mr Windsor has chose to flaunt his whereabouts and brag about his exploits in the Ellis County, Texas Courts via his Facebook account. Mr Windsor even used his Facebook to post WANTED statuses for information on others! Perhaps, maybe, Windsor should have been more concerned about following the law than attempting to manipulate it? Just an observation.
    Mr Windsor not providing a physical address, only a post office box, having a car registered in Georgia, a South Dakota driver's license and living in the DFW area made the Ellis County Court Complex the ONLY place to find him, would be a reasonable assertion.
    For myself, my family, and the MANY other victims Windsor has stalked and harassed? I hope Montana keeps him forever. He is a danger to society, he is dangerous and he is a STALKER in every sense/definition of the word.
    So? Bill Windsor friends, followers & defenders? Ask yourselves if he's ever really told any of you the truth. Mrs Windsor? She just happened by? He has stood firm how alone he has been, how she had to flee in fear after 4 decades of marriage! What else has he lied about to you, his 'friends'? Seriously, as one human to another, do you really believe every word he says? Why didn't Windsor ever give you the details about his court case outcome in Missouri? I'm just giving you a few examples to think over. What exactly has Mr Windsor ever really done for any of you? Please? Think long and hard.
    How would you view someone who goes hundreds of miles, across numerous states, just to sit outside your home and take photos? or the home of your adult kids? or elderly parents? or your employer? Is that an advocate? A leader? In Montana, it is called stalking. In Texas it is also called stalking. No matter where you are from, it is creepy.
    If you need further information? Call his cell phone, Mrs Windsor has it, he never answered for any of you, so I seriously doubt she would either. Mrs Windsor could also update his Facebook for his worried followers, she has access, she just chooses not to do so.
    Just know your beloved Mr Windsor has his wife, Barbara Windsor supporting him, as she always has.
    Both Windsors lied to everyone. Isn't that perjury? Another crime?

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    1. Well said and the stalking part is creepy.

      Perjury to the courts and police.

      He betrayed his supporters and a very long time ago.


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    2. That pretty much sums it up, Barbara "Gray" who often uses that AKA in the background for Bill's exploits. They are feeders, whether it's Alcatraz Media/Tours adding surcharges on other's vacation tours, or just looking for a fast buck in litigation, they are the lampreys of society, looking to drain others of their livelyhood. They create nothing, make nothing, add nothing. Excluding their daughter, Ryan, Barbara, Bill.....all scum IMO.

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    3. And for those who say...you can't indict the whole famile over Bill's dealings, yes I can, Ryan is a single 40 something gadfly that sucks off anything he can, I really don't know anything he could honestly claim on his resume that "he" did.

      Barbara, she is the guy sweeping up the elephant shit 20 yards behind the elephant, FOR 40 YEARS, except she probably drives a BMW 7series with a plow.

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    4. Im a follower of this blog...may i say 'BRAVO' from all of us at Zero's World Blog..we share MANy of the same issues, INCLUDING, but Not limited to, the NANCY/EVERYONE IS MIKE, CONNECTION...ONE for the good guys!!!!

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  25. Boushie 4 President ;)

    ~Allie Gate

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    1. I believe that, when the first Montana (Supreme?) court decision was published that dealt with Windsor harshly, I posted a comment or two noting that Boushie deserved meaningful lawyerly kudos for winning that result. Now this.

      Say what you'd like about the guy, but Mr. Boushie clearly gets results. That's a rather stark contrast with the gentleman who's now in Ellis County jail, no?

      Maybe the folks who still believe in the Lawless America organization should ask Mr. Boushie to run it.

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    2. talk is cheap...and yesterday Boushie moved the goal posts way past just talk. So yeah, I yield to him at this point

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    3. I believe that anyone who's been harmed by Mr. Windsor should be thankful for Boushie ' s accomplishments. Regardless of any personal opinions of him, this move just paved a road that's a lot smoother for all Windsor victims to navigate. Forever endebted. Cheers, Boushie.
      ~Allie Gate

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    4. Pffft. Allie your sitting on a hotbed of information you won't share and or tell anyone about thinking it's meaningless.

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    5. FU, Flem.

      Quit thread killing with your horseshit.

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    6. Pfffft yourself Flemming!!!
      Allie endured more stalking from Windsor than you ever have!
      And? All the while putting up with your incessant calls, emails, texts! As I recall? You had to be told to CEASE and DESIST. She couldn't work, sleep, concentrate on her life for your insatiable need for more information! You were not even a named defendant then! You were just being nosey! How much time do you have to spare? Your YouTube Show, your constant comments across numerous blogs, then add in the calls, messaging!
      What exactly did you do to assist Allie when Windsor was stalking her and suing her?
      The sniping comments are uncalled for and unwarranted.
      One creep is the problem for many. Can those many stand together to accomplish anything? No. Because of the sniping.
      I have only endured ten months of Windsor, and not in increments of weeks or months near my home or family, just drivebys, like the creepy stalker he is! Please, also take into consideration that law enforcement in rural areas doesn't respond in minutes, as they do in large urban areas. Oftentimes law enforcement in rural areas of our nation consists of 1 to 4 officers for entire counties.
      It appears to me, Flemming, that you far too quick to criticize and extremely lax in acknowledging any victories, by anyone. Did it ever occur to you that Allie has a family that has been through Windsor Hell for over a year? She actually works, and in all honesty, doesn't owe you or anyone here anything. Allie was vilified, because her case with Windsor drug out because of a Judge much like the one in Texas. A judge never prepared, did not read motions or set hearings in a timely matter and expected attorneys before him to do his work for him.
      I pray each day your attorney can continue on for you and we ALL try to support you and your attorney. All while we endure your incessant calls while working, taking care of our families and looking over our shoulders for Windsor lurking.
      You? Are safe and sound from the frackus, for now.
      Like mold, Windsor always manages to reappear, more noxious than before. Don't ever forget that, Windsor is very similar to black mold, difficult and expensive to erradicate, and likely to reappear at any time, any where.
      Lastly, how do you know Allie did or did not assist in anything that has happened in the past several months, or even days? You don't.
      Tread carefully, here, Flemming, just because you are not being informed on an hourly basis? Does not mean that many individuals are not doing for your benefit.
      Can you not be somewhat satisfied that you do have excellent representation? Or that all of the victims and defendants are somewhat safe, for now, from Windsor?
      Windsor. He IS beyond a shadow of doubt for me, the villain. No one else.
      I sincerely hope Windsor does not ever do to you or your family what he inflicted on Allie and others.
      Please, do not be so quick to presume &/or assume what anyone has or has not done.
      And for cripes sake? Lose hotbed from your repitoire.
      You now know Mrs (ex) Windsor was with William Windsor as recently as last night.
      Be thankful and greatful for what you, we all, DO have, in this moment in time, please?

      Lastly? A very deeply sincere thank you to each and every individual and agency that has worked across many states to orchestrate us being able to rest for a few days, knowing Windsor is exactly where he deserves to be and cannot continue to flood any court with over burdensome filings, motions aka BILLSHIT tree wasting. At least think of the clerk in Ellis County! She can breathe easy for a few days! She is a nice lady that has endured far too much!
      AND Congratulations to the defendant that was dismissed yesterday! I hope they celebrated & are so relieved.

      Signed,
      Thankful and Grateful

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    7. Could it be possible, Phlegm, that there is a more intelligent time and place to share information than with someone who presents themselves remarkably like our Plaintiff? Perhaps, oh I don't know, with the proper authorities, lawyers, and people who don't share hotbeds? You should take a breath and be thankful not everyone plays with you. Be thankful that what you see now isn't all of the "news". Be thankful that someone else's hard work is helping to save your skin. Be thankful to Boushie, Montana, your lawyer, and all the people who may have been saving your skin this entire time, and just didn't feel the need to spew it. Maybe, possibly, sometimes things are so pressing and serious that they override blog gloating. Jus sayin.

      ~~Allie Gate

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    8. Amen!
      ***Kumbayah moment***

      Grateful & Thankful

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    9. I like Allie, jus sayin.

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  26. Wow!

    Well, this is certainly not what I was expecting when I surfed in in search of an update on the big hearing.

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    1. Since they are cancelling Here Comes Honey Boo Boo, alot are migrating here.

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    2. ...Okay, now that I've read all of the comments (to date):

      I gather from Ginger's comment upthread that the court proceeding itself was fairly uneventful, that it ended up being largely a scheduling hearing. (I'm all too familiar with those.) I'd still like to hear more, if there is more to hear.

      Then, after the hearing, local (Texas) county police arrested Windsor on a Montana warrant... for violating the protective order filed by Mr. Boushie--yes? Does anyone know anything more (than what's posted on elliscountysheriff.com) about the basis for the charges?

      Windsor's story over the last several years has involved so many criminal complaints being filed, both by and against him, in so many jurisdictions; after years' worth of nothing coming of all those charges, it's a little startling to learn that a law enforcement agency has decided to issue a warrant and make an arrest based on some of them.

      I'm very interested to hear what conduct led to the charges--i.e., how exactly Windsor is accused of violating the protective order. Two misdemeanor counts and three felonies (!) sounds very serious.

      Windsor has obviously picked a large number of very ill-advised public fights with some extremely powerful officials, including a bunch of federal judges. After all of that, incredibly, it appears that the decision he appears likely to come to regret the most is making an enemy out of Sean Boushie. Again: wow.

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    3. yeah I think that would be a pretty accurate summation to this point, and as far as the charges go thats all we know for sure right now is what is posted

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    4. Okay; thanks, Ginger.

      A late-night Anonymous commenter ("Zebra-3") on the previous JIALK thread hypothesized that "Windsor screwed up pretty bad before leaving Montana, maybe causing a scene at the University - something so awful he didn't post it on YouTube."

      It's certainly not clear that that's correct, but it would (1) fit the charges described on the Ellis County site and (2) make for a hell of a story. Maybe we'll even hear that story, once court proceedings begin back in the Treasure State.

      I hope JIALK keeps covering it!

      (Meanwhile, it's a little bizarre to contemplate what the effect on Windsor's various pieces of civil litigation could be, presuming his incarceration prevents him from making necessary filings/responding to discovery/attending dispositive motion hearings in Texas, California, and/or elsewhere. Will judges grant him continuances because he's been arrested and imprisoned for violating a protective order? Geez--I wouldn't count on it.)

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    5. I'm Zebra-3. Spamanon was perfectly correct about the way I was posting being tedious. I thank him or her and I've stopped that. Now, about my hypothesis. You're right. I've no proof whatsoever that's what occurred and was trying to think of something that would cause felony warrants to be issued. Those warrants have been issued - that's fact. I know that area of Montana very well. Folks there are unremarkable politically and ideologically. They're not given to over-react. Bill had to do something before leaving the state that we weren't made aware of. That might have happened at the U of MT or somewhere else. Might just as well have happened at or near a private residence. It had to happen, though, and it had to be pretty damn wild. It wasn't Bill wandering into some grey area of the law.

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    6. Yes—as I said, it's a plausible hypothesis.

      But there are probably other possibilities. Maybe Windsor did something—by e-mail?—from Texas or California or god-knows-where, rather than on his way out of Montana. Maybe the felony counts constitute some serious over-charging. It's hard to say for sure.

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    7. another interesting thing I'm hearing is the charges could be stackable. If that is true and MT wants to make an example out of Bill, he might be looking at hard time.

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    8. No "might" about it. If you're right that the sentences would run consecutively, three felonies + two misdemeanors + a 66-year-old man (in less-than-pristine health) might very well = a de facto life sentence. Ouch.

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    9. Second-Chair AttorneyOctober 30, 2014 at 11:42 AM

      Attorney: your thoughts on what chances any public defender appointed to Bill has, in Texas or Montana? At least Bill will be given an attorney in this instance, at the outset -- but will he or she be immediately fired?

      Or, given the gravity of all of this -- we're talking about a real possibility of jail time, not just monkeying around with Maid of the Mist -- do you think he'll actually hang on to whoever he's given to protect him? Or even accept someone his family hires for him, or reach out to family to help him retain someone?

      He talked from time to time about not being afraid of going to jail, but that was all in the abstract. He had never been incarcerated. Now, he's seeing just what that means. I cannot fathom him doing whatever time he does in Ellis County, with his freedom completely gone and the folks on that Inmate Search around him all the time, and still deciding that he can handle whatever the criminal justice system has waiting for him on his own.

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    10. Okay, Second-Chair; I'll send you to the law library to look up my citations. :-)

      Attorney: your thoughts on what chances any public defender appointed to Bill has, in Texas or Montana?

      "What chances" (s)he has in not immediately being fired by Windsor? It depends upon his attitude—upon how much this experience (he's getting close to 48 hours of incarceration now, with a long trip to Montana ahead of him, right?) has made him see things differently. I suppose it also depends upon whether the rumor, widely accepted in these parts, that he still has a sizable pool of money to draw on is true.

      If he's still the good old damn-the-torpedoes, file-motions-the-size-of-phone-books Revolutionary Party founder we all know, then I'm guessing he'll decide to go pro se and give those Montana judges hell. And he has a constitutional right to represent himself if he desires it. (Faretta v. California, 422 U.S. 806 (1975).)

      Given Windsor's overall litigation record, however, that would be a strikingly foolish decision. Public defenders don't tend to have great win-loss records themselves (largely because (1) they get the worst clients and (2) they tend to have overwhelming case loads), but given how unsuccessful Windsor has been—in Montana he's had an especially hard time—a PD is still a better bet. If he's got the money to hire a more well-heeled defense attorney, his chances of getting a relatively positive outcome will skyrocket.

      [D]o you think he'll actually hang on to whoever he's given to protect him?

      That's really a question for a psychologist rather than an attorney, right?

      Well, presuming he actually can afford it, I have to believe he'll say no thanks to a PD and hire more expensive counsel. Anyway, I agree with your comments in general.

      Meanwhile, the merits of the criminal case (cloudy though they are at the moment to us bystanders) seem to me fascinating. Windsor has been charged with two misdemeanor violations of the Boushie PO, and those charges seem awfully plausible; quite possibly the very videos of his Montana antics that Windsor himself shot and posted are all the evidence it would take to prove them. (Even if not, it's not exactly hard to believe that he committed other low-level Boushie-PO violations at other times.) But three felonies? Goodness. It seems to me that either (1) there are some very lurid facts we're not privy to (which, as I've said above, would make for a hell of a story) or (2) a prosecutor is being very aggressive, which would give a good criminal defense attorney a meaningful opening to beat some or all of those charges. (I suppose another option is (3) Montana PO law is really punitive, and people who have violated POs in fairly minor ways can find themselves legitimately convicted of major crimes. That would be a little unpleasant.)

      In any case, all this seems to me to be the most interesting wrinkle in the Windsor saga since the Maid case ended with a whimper many months ago.

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    11. Second-Chair AttorneyOctober 30, 2014 at 1:21 PM

      Thanks for your thoughts.

      And you're right -- all of my questions are more appropriately categorized as psychological, rather than legal. At bottom, I was curious whether someone who has a decent understanding of Bill's personality traits would think this latest experience (a "most interesting wrinkle," indeed) might finally alter his decision-making process.

      We don't have all the facts. A prosecutor in Montana may have called down to Ellis County with the longest possible list of charges that he (or she) could dream up, based on whatever happened up there, to get the Texas authorities to take him (or her) seriously and not let Bill out of the courthouse.

      But if a factual basis exists for even only some of those charges, they're serious. Bill now knows what it's like to be in county lock-up. A Montana prison would be exceedingly worse. Having experienced incarceration firsthand, and having experienced failures representing himself in court firsthand, I cannot believe that he will continue to take the "good old damn-the-torpedoes" pro se approach with so much on the line.

      Bill has Dallas-area connections. My belief is that some money will come from somewhere to get him an excellent private criminal defense attorney to handle his Ellis County situation and refer him to an equally competent private criminal defense attorney in Missoula County.

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    12. I think its safe to assume that MT knows who they are dealing with here and the worst thing they could go is make him into a martyr. This is a man who has spent most of his life saying the justice system is corrupt, so if they are actually going to file charges, my guess is they are going all the way.

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    13. Second-Chair AttorneyOctober 30, 2014 at 1:44 PM

      Bill's past rhetoric aside, a good criminal defense attorney has a lot to work with here. He's almost 70. He has no prior criminal record. And what are the facts? Nothing we've seen suggests he was ever an actual threat to anyone. And what about the protective order? Stay off of the entire University of Montana campus? Was that ever defined? Did he have fair notice of what he could and couldn't do, or where he could and couldn't go?

      But the counter to my discussion above, about Bill finally finding and holding on to counsel given the gravity of the situation, is that no attorney will ever go as far as Bill might want him (or her) to go. An attorney will want to weed out almost all of the stuff that Bill has thrown at courts in his civil cases. If Bill insists on those matters being included, and the attorney feels, as an officer of the court, that he (or she) can't in good faith pursue them or that they would actually be adverse to Bill's best interests, he (or she) may be forced to withdraw.

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    14. Second-Chair AttorneyOctober 30, 2014 at 1:49 PM

      I now see that I was beaten to this thought by some time: "I mean even if he did hire someone, how long until he gets aggravated with them and fires his attorney because he or she wont take the course he wants?"

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    15. All very good points, SCA @ 1:44.

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    16. DV Warrior here, I thought breaking a protective order was an automatic felony. So many women have been killed after they get those pieces of paper, just how many chances should a perpetrator get to finish the job before he is jailed?

      I am commenting in reference to this remark by attorney. "(3) Montana PO law is really punitive, and people who have violated POs in fairly minor ways can find themselves legitimately convicted of major crimes. That would be a little unpleasant.)

      My question to attorney is, what is a minor infraction? Is that something like legitimate rape?

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    17. I think the main key ingredient missing with cases of domestic violence and Windsor is the v word. For all the bad things I would say about Bill I can't rightly make him out to be violent. And that might be the tricky part with this particular PPO.

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    18. What? No. I'm not terribly familiar with the specific terms of the protective order in question, but frequently such orders require the recipient (here Windsor) to physically stay out of some defined area, not to contact the victim, and so on.

      The mere fact that the charges against Windsor list two violations as misdemeanors and three others as felonies--but all of them are violations of the protective order--makes it clear that Montana law recognizes different levels of PO violation.

      Say, for example, that the Boushie PO required Windsor to stay (to pick a number basically at random) 1,000 feet away from Sean Boushie at all times. Well, presuming the Order was in effect at the time (I don't know whether it was), that silly episode in which Windsor attempted to "sting" Boushie by waiting in the University parking lot right by Boushie's vehicle would likely constitute a violation of the Order. But is that a felony--even without any suggestion that Windsor intended to do or to threaten any physical harm to Boushie (or his family, his vehicle, his home, etc.)? That would be a little difficult to understand. Windsor was clearly trying to get Boushie in legal trouble, not bodily attack him.

      The same could very conceivably go for a no-contact provision in the PO. Windsor has (obviously) been sending out all manner of communications--pleadings, discovery demands, motions, etc.--regarding his lawsuits in Missouri, Texas, and California, among other places. I vaguely recall that Windsor wanted Boushie involved in one or more of those lawsuits, as a party and/or a deponent; quite possibly communications that Windsor sent pursuant to those litigations (and which, on their face, don't appear to carry any threat toward Boushie other than potential civil liability) would nonetheless violate the no-contact terms of a PO. Would that be a felony? I rather hope not, but I can certainly imagine that it'd be illegal.

      In general, I don't think that all violations of protective orders are created equal. Some violations are conduct that understandably causes victims to fear for their safety. Others aren't. Technical violations and dangerous violations aren't always the same, and that seems to me to be a worthwhile distinction to draw.

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    19. Go to http://countyinfosearch.com/ and click on Ellis County District Attorney, Login and Civil Case History, and put in Cause #: 88611 Click on a defendants name then go to pleadings then go to Items 276-281, although you can't read the filings, it does say what has been filed

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    20. So, Anon @3:42, your point is that Boushie has taken part in the Texas litigation, at least by making some filings? (BTW, God, but is that Ellis County filing website clunky or what? Eyuuch.)

      That does make my point a little less hypothetical. Clearly, then, Windsor has served (or at least been under a procedural obligation to serve) Boushie with various documents pursuant to the legal claims Windsor is trying to state. Conceivably that could be a technical violation of the Montana Boushie PO, if it represents a contact that Windsor is not (under the terms of the PO) permitted to have with Boushie. It might even be a misdemeanor under Montana law. I really hope it's not a felony, though.

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    21. Downthread, "Second-Chair Attorney" reports on some very valuable legal research regarding Montana law on protective-order violations. What (s)he has found throws just about everything I've said on this thread regarding felonies vs. misdemeanors into serious doubt.

      I think the rest of my comments still hold water... but upon further (more informed by SCA) review, it appears Windsor might be much deeper trouble regarding potential felony convictions than I'd thought. Barring a plea bargain from an overly merciful prosecutor, he could be going away for quite a while....

      - Attorney, standing corrected

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    22. ya, cause remember he had been in the same type of lawsuit in Montana previously, that got thrown out, so now Bill tries to harrass thru this one

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    23. Thus far? While in Ellis County? Mr Windsor is #ADAMANTLY refusing an attorney. He has repeatedly stated he is his own attorney, and "far superior than any member of the bar".
      That? Is the Windsor that I am familiar with.
      I hope he continues to represent himself! With his past history? He deserves himself as his own attorney!

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    24. As a member of the bar, I find that highly amusing. I also think its hilarious that Judge Carroll held the hearing beforehand (he almost certainly knew what was about to happen to poor Mr. Bill) and that Windsor didn't realize he was being arrested until he thought he was on his way to his car.

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    25. Put it this way, point blank, should he violate a existig PPO, or recieve one MORE, he'll have the book thrown at him, he's effectivley impotent/done, from this point on...so sorry for those who were his victims!!! We support you!!

      Linda from Zero's World BLOG
      https://zerodinh.wordpress.com/

      Come say hi!!!

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  27. Will he sue the ECSO for putting him in a humiliating pose?

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    1. MT probably won't fly him, will they put him in a prisoners van?

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  28. I'm not convinced he's not wearing a straight jacket if you zoomed out on his mugshot.

    Just saying...

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  29. LMAO @ the comments from the lemmings. They are still so clueless as to WHY Windsor hasn't finished the propaganda film. They still believe his story about us being paid by the Government to stop them from exposing corruption. OMG how do these idiots make it through the day.

    WAKE UP!! There is NO movie, there probably never will be a movie, he was only using all your sob stories to promote his Revolutionary Party Agenda. Holy crap!! How gullible? Not to mention over 3/4 of the stories are BILLSHIT and not "CORRUPTION" just whining because you got caught! STFU lemmings. You can't help Bill. He violated a PPO several times. That is a crime!!

    And hopefully, very shortly, there will be enough evidence you all were conned!

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    1. Just so everyone knows how STUPID the lemmings actually are and the crap the make up, just to make themselves feel better I bring you this moronic comment by Vic. (See, they don't know shit, yet they really believe they do! Was that NOT Windsor in court talking to the Judge Tuesday??? For about 5 hours???) SMH!!

      "Vic Fedorov --Texas did not let him have h hearing n suit because he is exposing how sick our society is"

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  30. And now a moment in the Ironic Time Machine, May 16, 2013...

    BILL WINDSOR AND LAWLESS AMERICA VISIT A BAIL BONDS BUSINESS ACROSS FROM THE ELLIS COUNTY JAIL.

    Perhaps this is the bail bondsman that Brannon Bridge will use to post bond if he is arrested for his crimes against Bill Windsor

    https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=112370495603411&id=100583116782149

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    1. Ah, Spammy, you're just like another me. Windsor said so.

      (I'm not a robot, and I demand gluten!)

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    1. Yep, we are finally able to exhale.

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    2. Survivor?
      Exhale, but, please stay ever vigilant. Windsor has some very scary supporters.
      But, yes! ^fist bump^ & I hope you sleep very soundly in great peace for many nights.

      Thankful and Grateful

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  32. I know you folks have probably seen this. If not, the good stuff starts about page 3. Page 4 is wonderful. https://cases.justia.com/montana/supreme-court/da-13-0618.pdf?ts=1393367675

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    1. WOW, thanks for the laugh, lol...Ohhh those folks in glass houses!! Congrats guys!!!! GOOD STUFF!!

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  33. I wonder who's going to pay the rent on the "TV studio" he so carefully constructed with Photoshop...

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  34. The cops in Montana are 8 ft. tall. I've proof of that. Windsor says in one video that he is 6 ft. tall and is upset that U of Mt police have described him as 5' 10" (which itself might be an inch or two overestimated). Then, in the video where the officers serve him with the protective order on the U of Mt campus, the two officers are seen towering over Windsor. These police officers are deceptively normal looking. If they send a deputy to retrieve Windsor from Texas by commercial air flights (very likely, economically is makes sense) I hope they choose one of their shorter policemen. Can you imagine being 8 ft. tall and flying on Southwest?

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  35. Blast from the past...almost like a premonition--the ending!!
    One of my most favorite movies ever! Enjoy, it's particularly funny today.
    http://vimeo.com/83995144

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    1. All time classic!

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    2. We have to pay tribute to the reason he was arrested. Stalking. This video was all too perfect to show exactly what Windsor is, and why he's sitting in Jail for doing the same to another family. He's gotten away with these terroristic activities for far too long IMO.
      http://vimeo.com/66430191

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    3. Very nicely put together. And a pretty good primer for those of us who've only recently happened upon all of this.

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    4. Ninja..OMG,whose stalking who indeed, i hope you dont mind if i share this video, its beyond creepy, what a piece of shit..we can relate!!

      Linda at Zero's world blog

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  36. Bill wasn't arrested until after the hearing you brain dead idiot.


    Vic Fedorov
    Texas did not let him have h hearing n suit because he is exposing how sick our society is
    17 minutes ago

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    1. now is Susan's chance to swoop in and take over the movement she always thought was rightfully hers. The zombies need a new master

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    2. MaryD gets my vote!

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    3. What? Susan can swoop now? She must have gotten a new broom...

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    4. Link to Vic's asinine comment?

      https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205330627291741&set=a.1865609366531.2111583.1429920220&type=1&comment_id=10205356882948116&offset=0&total_comments=34

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  37. I wonder if being incarcerated was on Bill's Bucket List?

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    1. maybe he can start a new thing....you know like he wanted to visit every state capitol? Maybe now he can try and visit every county jail and write a book called Round the Cell Block

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    2. Do you think Billy's met a truly guilty person in jail yet?

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    3. Spent a while looking at his fellow inmates, alot of gang bangers and some killers. sort by who's been there the longest. On guy charged with murder has the same bail amount as Bill, 100K.

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    4. LOL Nah....they are all innocent. Including him. Remember his state of the onion or wherever he claimed the majority of those in jail are innocent? And when he rules the world, he'll let them all out?

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  38. Get a lawyer, Bill, and do exactly what she or he recommends - including dropping all legal action. If you're convicted, show remorse. Once you're free again, find a new hobby. You don't have to spend the rest of your life in prison. That's still your choice. And get a dog.

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    1. That would be nice if he was capable of that, but if you look back at his history? His life is harassing people through the courts. He eats, lives and breathes being vindictive. If he plays the same "Poor little ol' grandpa" card, gets a plea, he'll go right back to his current antics.

      I'd love to see a psych eval on him. He appears to be a sociopath--with narcissistic tendencies. Oh, and he and the little Mrs. already have a cat. I wouldn't wish another animal that fait.

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    2. He's in a better place now. Grab your favorite fall drink, engage in your favorite activity with your favorite person. Go outside and take a breath of fresh air. The tragedy is not that he's in jail and can't do these things, but that he did not enjoy them outside of jail.

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    3. BUY SOME KNICKERBOCKERS, Billy, and learn to play golf...that's what old, rich guys are supposed to do. Who knows, you may look good in plaid and argyle, and you even may be a natural
      golfer, like Bobby Jones or our prez....Ba-roke Insane Ebola.

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    4. how many mulligans would he require per hole?

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    5. Why, all of them, of course. ;-)

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    6. hahahahaha.....the perfect Bill answer

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  39. If Bill gets an attorney and is convicted, he'll get a light sentence, if he represents himself, 10-20 at Montana State Prison.

    98% of the people would do what the previous poster recommended, but Bill falls into the 2% of those who will seek retribution and go completely batshit. He's already crawling the walls with no laptop or iPhone.

    I must ask, if his marriage was forever destroyed by others, what's all this about Barb in Ellis County? And who's paying for the bondsman and attorney?

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    1. There's a bondsman and attorney?

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    2. Actually, it would be great if he languished in jail then represented himself or got a PD, but with Barb and his "poverty", I think that's just wishful thinking.

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    3. In between complaining about the food, crying literal tears, whining about it being to bright, to loud, and his wife's inability to figure out how to accept his collect calls, Windsor has made it very clear to the jail staff that he will be representing himself. As far as Bill getting a public defender, he pretty much killed that option when he whipped out his American Express Black card to try to pay the $100,000 bond.

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    4. Windsor's incredible arrogance will be what sends him to prison. He still believes he's smarter than the world and he'll beat anyone that challenges him. He's finally going to get that Judy trial he's always wanted though.

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    5. Many years ago, in my foolish youth, I spent 3 days in a county jail. If this is Bill's first time in, it will be an experience he will long remember, and if he ignores his fellow inmates, acts stand offish, bitches about the food and accomodations, it's a good way to get your ass kicked by those who have been in there a while.

      I hope he does.

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    6. Oops. Typo above. Jury trial not Judy trial.

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    7. He's loaded. Always has been. Millions. Stipulations will be the only thing that keeps him in. Another reason to be thankful for Boushie, people who "aren't sharing hotbeds". Virtual fist bumps to montana.

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    8. Anon 12:07:
      Windsor has made it very clear to the jail staff that he will be representing himself.

      That's big talk. A week or more of incarceration (and 1,700 miles of extradition) from now, let's see if he's still singing the same tune. Say, after arraignment.

      Windsor has proven that he's a very stubborn man, so maybe the experience won't break him. But we'll see. (Please don't take this as boasting; in his shoes, I personally would have broken well before that 3 A.M. Wednesday booking!)

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    9. yeah Attorney, to me this also is going to be the most fascinating part. His normal self would as, as you said, just go it pro-se with 100% conspiracy/corruption the MT judges are evil blah blah blah defense.

      The logical response is get a hot shot attorney up there and let him run the defense.....but can Bill really yield to an attorney? What if that attorney won't go after the judges in MT? What if he won't bring "the Joeys" into it? I mean even if he did hire someone, how long until he gets aggravated with them and fires his attorney because he or she wont take the course he wants?

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    10. If Bill were a smart man, he'd hire a defense lawyer, close down his .com and Facebook page, strike a plea deal on the charges, then drift off into retirement. But we all know by now that Bill just isn't that smart.

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    11. And then, the other interesting angle (at least to two attorneys hanging out here) is that as far as we can tell at the moment, Windsor's defense on the most serious charges appears to be quite possibly very winnable. Did Windsor really commit three felonies pertaining to the Boushie PO? Obviously it's possible that he did, but unless there are facts about Windsor's dealings with Boushie that aren't publicly known, I have a hard time seeing where the felonies are. (The misdemeanor counts seem somewhat less mysterious—but they come with far lighter consequences if he's convicted.)

      In that light, it seems to me that the difference between (1) old-school Windsor pro se litigation strategy and (2) intelligent criminal defense strategy could be simply enormous in this case. If the prosecutors aren't holding some fabulous cards that the public doesn't know about, (2) could very clearly win; the chances might even be better than 50%. But (1)? Insanely dangerous. In his previous courtroom antics, Windsor was just playing with the possibility of being found in contempt or declared a vexatious litigant. Now he's toying with what could be a de facto life sentence in state prison. Yikes.

      Any way you slice it, this is some serious psychodrama. It beats any silly "reality" TV show.

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    12. Second-Chair AttorneyOctober 30, 2014 at 4:04 PM

      Did some poking around the Montana statutes that appear to apply. I am not a Montana attorney and thus cannot say that any of this is accurate. None of this constitutes legal advice.

      Based on my very limited review, Bill's problem may simply be one of numerosity. Montana Code Annotated § 45-1-201(1) provides that, at least for the purpose of determining which court(s) have jurisdiction over an alleged criminal offense, "the offense shall be designated a felony or misdemeanor based upon the maximum potential sentence which could be imposed by statute."

      Montana Code § 45-2-101(23) defines a "felony" as "an offense in which the sentence imposed upon conviction is death or imprisonment in a state prison for a term exceeding 1 year."

      By contrast, Montana Code § 45-2-101(42) defines a "misdemeanor" as "an offense for which the sentence imposed upon conviction is imprisonment in the county jail for a term or a fine, or both, or for which the sentence imposed is imprisonment in a state prison for a term of 1 year or less."

      Montana Code § 45-5-626 lists the penalties for violating an order of protection. If the prosecutor could prove that violations occurred, the penalties simply increase based on how many violations have been shown. I see no distinction for "violent" violations of an order of protection versus "non-violent" violations.

      For the first violation of an order of protection, Montana Code § 45-5-626(3) prescribes a maximum penalty of a fine of $500 or less or imprisonment in the county jail of less than six months, or both -- a misdemeanor, per the definition above.

      For the second violation of an order of protection, Section 45-5-626(3) prescribes a maximum penalty of a fine between $200 and $500 and imprisonment in the county jail of between 24 hours and six months -- also a misdemeanor, per the definition above.

      For the third and any subsequent violations of an order of protection, Section 45-5-626(3) prescribes a maximum penalty of a fine between $500 and $2,000 and imprisonment in the county jail or state prison of between 10 days and two years -- a felony, per the definition above.

      So if Sections 45-1-201(1) and 45-2-101(23) and (42) govern to define a "felony" and a "misdemeanor" here, if they think they have Bill on five total violations of the same protective order, the number alone would, under Section 45-5-626(3), mean two misdemeanors and three felonies.

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    13. dont forget that seanboushie.com was ordered to be removed......its still up to this day.

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    14. Wow. What a weird setup. "Three strikes, you're a felon."

      And for a guy like Windsor, it's his worst nightmare. "Counting stats," as sabermetricians might call them (to differentiate things that "count up," such as home runs and RBIs, from things that don't, such as batting average), are simply a brutal way to measure the behavior of a sometimes-obsessive person like Windsor. If he has to pay (in criminal punishment), on a continually increasing scale, for every individual instance in which he's stepped over the PO line—no matter how minor or technical the line-crossing was—he's in real trouble.

      Nice research, SCA. In that case, a lot of my analysis above (uninformed as it is regarding Montana law) pertaining to felonies and misdemeanors goes out the window. If the criminal penalties work the way you describe, Windsor could be in much more trouble than I'd thought.

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    15. Ginger:
      dont forget that seanboushie.com was ordered to be removed......its still up to this day.

      Yeah. If all that the prosecutor has to do is prove five violations of the terms of the PO, regardless of how small or technical those violations are, then Windsor is very possibly cooked. (Mainly because it seems very plausible to me that the State can come up with passable evidence of five small-scale violations.) Even if Windsor can somehow convince a judge or jury that one or two of the five haven't been proved beyond a reasonable doubt, conviction on three counts still means he's a felon. Which means months if not years behind bars.

      Wow again.

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    16. If I'm not mistaken, the TRO states that Bill cannot serve Boushie with anything. Bill asked the court to serve Sean for him and they refused. They even warned Windsor that he couldn't serve Sean with anything. Bill being Bill, he decided to serve Sean anyway because of his desperation to harass him through his Texas lawsuit. I'm pretty sure that's where these violations came from.

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    17. It's so poetic. Done in by his own (ahem) "vexiness."

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  40. The fact that Bill, though self-proclaimed "poor", has an Amex Black Card trying to make bail, is calling Barbara, who he claims no longer talks with him, for help from jail, lists Dallas as his home on LinkedIn and is the CEO of the Windsor Companies, is using a PO Box in SD when booked, all this makes me wonder if Bill is always being honest with the public. I thought he said he never lies?

    I'm very disappointed in him.

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  41. Bill's Twitter account is still posting stuff. Just news stories unrelated to his predicament. Must be some sort of automation from a news feed or something.

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    1. That's normal for his feed. I always assumed it was a second user.

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    2. It's been that mink lady on the east coast for over a year.

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    3. Bill has never controlled his own twitter, he handed that off long ago, about the time of the setup of all the state pages.

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  42. There would be an easy contrite way of approaching this, then there is Bills way, and trust me, from someone that's known him a long, long time, this will get ugly, it will cause some people some aggravation and pain, but ultimately he will be the loser.

    Ask him about how many fans he has from Advanstar, First Communications, Alcatraz Tours... I almost thing he likes to be hated......and he can't stop. He won't get a pet as suggested, go fishing, take up painting...he won't stop. He was this way 30 years ago, and will continue.

    Lesson is that soul less assholes get ahead in this world, sad but true.

    My first and last post

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    1. Sadly, Windsor's heart is as black as his Amex card.

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    2. i would assume the guy who sold his company to first communications for 800k and then Windsor declares a bankruptcy on the promissary note for 600k would be a little mad while Windsor and company make millions selling the 1st Jobs division to a company the Washington Post had named Brass Ring. I am not sure how a company who just sold a division for millions can declare a bankruptcy months later on debts outstanding and with a bank account drained.

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    3. Damn Fleming, are you still stuck on that?

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    4. Flemming makes a good point. 2 posts above the topic was about 1st communications.

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  43. So that's settled then. Sounds like the voice of experience. Just watching him talk, try to control his anger, this rings true. Thank you, Jimmy. I bet you're right.

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  44. Tonight I shall do a Jig in the Dome!

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    1. Waving Zero!! How you be? will you be sure NanNan knows her Messiah is locked down? Mike did it! But you knew that. She will definitely know it.

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  45. Complaint Number: 0001 — COM 1st Amended COMPLAINT of WILLIAM M WINDSOR 06/19/2014
    Original Filing Date: 01/17/2014
    Complaint Status: DISMISSED 10/30/2014

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    1. What Complaint is that?

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    2. Which suit is that?

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    3. I assume you are referring to the Facebook case in CA?
      10/30/2014 ORDER TO DISMISS, SIGNED BY JUDGE FOILES ON 10/30/14, FILED.

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    4. Something tells me that Windsor is currently less troubled by that decision than anyone could have possibly imagined a week ago.

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    5. Instead of all this negativity towards Bill, let's stop for a minute and reflect on all the suits he's won.

      BTW, you can send him $ for the jail commissary online! Let's all take a minute and a few $ to make an inmates day a little brighter.

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    6. maybe we should all pitch in and buy him a university of Montana sweater care of "The Joeys". You know its cold up there this time of year

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    7. I have several Griz hoodies from there and a jacket. That school has a great mascot, as mascots go.

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  46. Thanks to some vital legal research done by "Second-Chair Attorney," upthread, it now appears that the outcome of Montana criminal proceedings against Windsor is almost entirely in the hands of the prosecuting attorney. According to the statutes SCA dug up, if that prosecutor can prove to a jury of Montanans, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Windsor violated Sean Boushie's protective order five times—no matter how benign or non-violent those violations were—then (s)he can convict Windsor of two misdemeanors and three felonies. Even if the prosecutor were to fail on one or two of the counts, three successes out of the five still would render Windsor a convicted felon.

    That means that Windsor's fate is predominantly up to the prosecutor—who has broad legal discretion to decide what punishment (s)he will seek. There's certainly a significant possibility that the prosecutor will offer Windsor a fairly charitable plea deal, under which Windsor pleads guilty to some lesser number of PO violations and accepts punishment that's short of the worst-case prison scenario for Windsor here. How short is, again, largely up to the prosecutor.

    There are some delicious ironies in that set-up, of course: after spending so many years accusing members of my profession (and ones who work for the government more than the rest of us) of being massively corrupt and whatnot, Windsor's fate now rests in the hands of a government attorney. Also, I'd have to imagine that if the State offers Windsor a lenient plea bargain, it will come with some rather stringent conditions—and it could be fun to speculate on what those could be. Would Windsor agree to drop his various civil lawsuits? Dissolve Lawless America? Take down all of his websites, cancel his Facebook account, perhaps stay off of the World Wide Web entirely? Who knows?

    Presuming, on the other hand, that there's no plea bargain (or that the deal leaves some wiggle room for sentencing), then there would be additional legal issues to resolve. Obviously there's the possibility that Windsor could go to trial and win a total acquittal—but given what a low bar the prosecution would have to prove its case, I really wouldn't bet on that.

    One noteworthy point: would sentences for multiple convictions run concurrently or consecutively? One Montana statute (§ 46-18-401) states that sentences are to run consecutively unless the judge orders otherwise, so (though more research would be useful on this point) it appears that "stacking" the sentences is a very real possibility, and it's largely up to the judge.

    [Continued...]

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    1. So, going by the sentences listed in the statutes Second-Chair Attorney found, it appears that the absolute worst-case scenario for Windsor would be to go to trial, be convicted on all five counts of violating the Boushie PO, and be sentenced to seven years (!) in state prison and fined $7,000.

      Much more likely Windsor would get a lighter sentence than that, though; sentencing practices are complex (and different in just about every jurisdiction), and judges typically have quite a bit of discretion in how much to impose, whether to suspend part or all of a prison sentence, whether to order probation, and so on. Windsor is probably not going to spend seven years in prison. It's not even implausible that he'd be convicted on all five counts and yet wind up escaping prison entirely. (Though in that case he'd probably get hit as hard as possible by other forms of punishment, such as fines, probation, and conditions of release such as staying away from certain parts of the 'Net.)

      All in all, however, it really appears that Windsor is in serious trouble. And again, it's almost entirely up to the prosecutor. If (s)he's just blowing smoke with these charges, Windsor probably has little to worry about—but these charges definitely don't look like smoke. Windsor is now going to need a prosecutor, and perhaps a judge, to take a substantial amount of pity on him in the near future. If they don't, it certainly appears that he is going away for quite a little while.

      To repeat: it appears likely that Bill Windsor's fate will soon depend upon one or two attorneys—a Montana prosecutor, and possibly a Montana judge—looking upon him with favor. I can't say this breaks my heart.

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    2. I can't help but wonder where Susan is. Shouldn't she be on here defending her precious Willy and pointing out how wrong the two attorneys are. Just a thought.

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    3. Yes! I find her silence deliciously sweet!
      How appropriate, for her. Her Willy is in dire straights! And? She can't manage to pop in and expound on how wrong IT all is that her Willy is a victim of, wait for it...... #Corruption
      Susan? Aka Sharon? Nothing to say? Someone get her smelling salts! She was so certain Windsor would prevail and isn't she the one that assisted with much of his Montana "thrashing" (pun intended)?

      Crickets!

      That? Is almost as hilarious as the situation her Willy is in now! Just almost.

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    4. Attorney, SCA, et al,

      http://supremecourtdocket.mt.gov/view/DA%2013-0540%20Other%20--%20Motion%20-%20Opposed?id=%7B93C0E349-73D5-4689-9AEF-771827085324%7D

      http://supremecourtdocket.mt.gov/view/DA%2013-0540%20Deny%20--%20Order?id=%7B5DC47725-D7E2-4CDC-9330-36CA81F600B7%7D

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    5. It's October 30th. Ask Maximus where she is.

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    6. Then again she always had a thing for dead men walking....I mean ghosts.

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    7. WTF...Windsor's added more filings to the Ellis Co. action today--including an emergency motion for stay. Dang, that law library at the jail's got to be something!

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    8. Think the Judge will find out why he needs the stay?

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    9. In order to get a stay, he has to explain to the judge why he needs one. I don't know whether the judge will consider "I'm in jail" to be a good enough reason, but what else does he have?

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    10. I doubt he could explain much on a one page, hand written motion. I also figure it'll be hard to make it to a hearing for further explanation if MT no bonds him on any further charges, which I hear is a real possibility.

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    11. There were eight LE officers in the courtroom on Tuesday. Sure, a few were there to keep a 114 lb female/tigress-defendant from kicking Billy's fat behind, but don't you think Carroll knew Billy was about to be arrested?

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    12. A one page motion from Windsor? That's a first! Perhaps there's hope for the forests of the world yet!

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    13. Although I don't know much about Ellis Co., things get around a courthouse, if he concocts some other reason, and he's found out to be lying to the judge, that won't go over well, though being in jail probably doesn't put him in a great light either.

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    14. I'm sure you're right about the county courthouse—but even if you weren't, it's not as if Windsor's arrest is some kind of secret to his opponents in the Texas litigation. If he tried to pretend that he needs the stay for some reason besides his sudden incarceration, there would clearly be a rather large number of people who would be ready, willing, able, and indeed eager to explain to the judge what's really going on. And Windsor surely recognizes all of that.

      So I'd be shocked if any request for stay he files doesn't mention that he's been arrested. (Of course, I would presume that he represents that the whole thing is an unparalleled exercise in treachery by Sean Boushie and the entire fiendish Montanan race.)

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    15. That's Montanian Americans, okay? Thank you.

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    16. Montana's non-official slogan? The Last Best Place. Amen!

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    17. What amazes me with his fillings to the various courts is the vitriol he constantly spews, liars!!! I'm no lawyer, but as I read these they don't have many facts, but a lot of name calling and general accusations aimed at the character of others.

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    18. That's like when he was leaving court yesterday. While walking with his sheriff escorts, he was pointing at various people and calling them criminals. He didn't realize the sheriffs weren't escorting him to his jeep. He found out why they were there when they pushed the basement button on the elevator. Only way out of the building from there is the tunnel to the jail. He could be heard screaming as the elevator passed the lobby on its way down.

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    19. I'm some distance from there, but if I knew this was coming I would have taken time off of work to be there.

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  47. Turkey loaf, mashed potatoes and mixed vegetables reign supreme in the Ellis County Lockup Commissary most evenings.

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  48. What tricks will he play in his mind just to get to sleep? What's Bill's happy place? Fantasizing that he has them right where he wants them now? That they've walked right into his (very) elaborate trap?

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    1. Why...getting locked up and all, it's the PERFECT climax to his latest film, Joeypalooza (2104). Look for it at the Sundance Film Festival, and at fine theaters near you. Or, just rub your eyes real hard and pretend...

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    2. I mentioned in an earlier post that I had the opportunity, in my foolish youth of decades ago, of 3 delightful days in a county jail. They intentionally have it too hot or cold, loud, slaming doors, miserable. I think that's the plan. My sense is that he isn't thinking of anything other than how do I make it another day...disoriented, etc. I hear county jail is actually worse than prison. I'll need to ask Bill if that's true at some point.

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  49. Ok. So the violations of the PO came about because Windsor never removed the boushie dot com site. And for allowing Mary D to continually comment about boushie on bills public Facebook page. Reading the PO ot seems there was some more that rigid rules Bill had to follow and didn't.

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    1. sounds right. And MaryD is still to this day (maybe adding more charges as we speak?) spouting off, writing her blah, blah, "by and thru, HIPPA" whatnot blaming Boushie for everything wrong in her life. SMH That's kind of poetic justice to me. Every nutty thing any of them write about Boushie, because Windsor told them lies....yeah, interesting.

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  50. I still think the felonies have to be in addition to the online stuff. Are we committing felonies by talking about Windsor? He was IN Montana. When was he trying to serve the paperwork? Even going back to the University and shoving it under a door. Or putting it in a mailbox. Maybe putting paperwork under SB's windshield wipers. I'm betting it was something physical in MT. With that, there's a blatant disregard for the PO. Bill and Sean both know when, where and what it was. Bill can act confused, but he's not having to guess about this. I'm certain if I'm right about that, no one in Montana can talk about it.

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  51. Bill's probably been assigned a jailhouse job by now, laundry, kitchen, bathrooms.....Hector the trustee needs to make sure there's no slacking or whining with this one.

    Looking at bios of the deputies on the Ellis Co. Site, all wearing white cowboy hats, many with prior military experience, my guess is there isn't alot of slap and tickle going on at that jail. Bill is probably either doing the Fred Sanford, "Oh, this is the big one! You hear that, Elizabeth?! I'm coming to join you, honey!" or taking the psych route.

    I also recall he claimed he was on death's door with a fractured skull not too long ago....

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  52. Ryan, you lazy, no account, drop out son from hell, that's leached of Barb and Bill, traveling the world, bouncing between SF, Austin and Atlanta, get a few of your best guy friends, rent a van, go up to MT and get the old man out of jail!

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    1. Ryan really is something else, a total loach in my opinion.....imagine Joaquin Phoenix in Gladiator or a more passive Scott Disick, a floater that exists through the hand outs of Mom (he calls her Bozzie Jane as a nick name, Google it), I wouldn't be surprised is he still wore Spunge Bob Jammies.

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  53. OK...to review...this video shows exactly what's happened to Windsor, the high-flying dare-devil that he is/was...

    http://safeshare.tv/w/kLlmcNCGBk

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