Friday, August 23, 2013

Dangerous Leaders - By NBTDT



In past posts, Bill Windsor has been compared to Adolph Hitler.     Given Hitler’s horrific history, this appears to be an exaggerated comparison.   But, it’s important to recognize classic narcissistic traits and know how the dynamic affects a group of people so that a history such as Hitler’s is not repeated.    In fact, Hitler has been studied many times by many people for just that reason.    

In 2007 a study on Hitler’s personality was published by the psychology department at the University of Colorado.    The publication is a compilation of expert opinions formulated through various other studies and a lot of technical data I don’t begin to understand.     Technical data aside, several interesting points are made.    The experts opine that while there is evidence of mental illness, Hitler’s narcissistic personality was the major contributor in his ability to control the German population.    More than Hitler’s psychopathology, it was the social condition of the German people that allowed Hitler’s rise to power.    One expert’s opinion is that “anyone like Hitler could have accomplished the same heinous acts…”.      Hitler was only the facilitator of the holocaust; he fanned the flames of nationalism that “contained the seeds of genocide from centuries of anti-Semitism”.  

The publication quotes a study by John D Mayer (1993) in which Mayer makes a proposal for recognition of a dangerous leader disorder based on three major behavior categories: indifference, intolerance and grandiosity.    Mayer noted “that dangerous leaders typically have apologists who discount their destructive methods in favor of viewing their behavior as consonant with “laudable” goals.”    While Mayer’s study was relative to extreme behavior in preventing international incidents and a future holocaust, we see some of these behaviors in the leader of Lawless America:

Indifference towards peoples suffering:  these traits were exemplified for us in the post “The eyes and lies of Bill Windsor, the narcissist” with the behaviors that are listed under “Difficulty with empathy”, “Using other people without considering the cost of doing so” and “Inability to view the world from the perspective of other people”.

Intolerance of criticism: we’ve seen many examples of Bill’s inability to reconcile criticism, attack those who criticize him, attacks on the friends of his critics, his inability to admit when he is in error, his rage when he is challenged and the most glaring evidence of this behavior is being declared a “vexatious litigant”.  

Grandiosity, manifested by seeing oneself as a “uniter” of people, identification with religion/nationalism and promulgating a grand plan:  Bill Windsor, united victims in all 50 states, designed and implemented TWO grand plans, Lawless America Association and Lawless America the Movie, to ‘take our country back’. 

Dangerous leaders typically have apologists: comments and posts on Bill’s web sites are typically written by supporters who minimize, excuse, defend and encourage behaviors that reflect indifference and intolerance as the grand plans are executed.    As the wheels have come off the Lawless America wagon one by one and stalking games have taken precedence, the supporters continue to applaud Bill’s efforts and quietly accept the change in agenda without any apparent awareness that the activity, if not illegal, is morally wrong. 

As Ninja points out in her post, narcissists need a supply.    Just as Hitler did, Windsor found a supply within a group that has an inflated view of itself and goals.   It operates as a narcissistic entity.    According to a 2009 study “Collective Narcissism and it’s Social Consequences”, collective is an alternate form of narcissism where most individual traits apply but the word ‘group’ can be substituted for ‘self’.     A sub concept, The charismatic leader-follower relationship, theorized by Jerrold post appears to define Hitler and Windsor.   Post theorizes that there are two types of narcissists within this group, the mirror-hungry narcissist leader and the ideal-hungry narcissist followers.    Post suggests that the relationship is symbiotic as supply needs are met for both narcissistic types.   The mirror-hungry leader receives the admiration he needs and his charisma provides the followers with the purpose needed by their ideal-hungry narcissism.    

This is where the comparison to Hitler ends.   Hitler’s collective narcissism had single purpose, national and Arian superiority.    In my opinion, if there had been as many different ideals in the followers of Hitler as there were in Lawless America, Hitler’s army may not have made it across the border into Poland.  


156 comments:

  1. Bravo NBTDT. This is really a very frightening article in the similarities. But, enlightening for those who still don't "get it" yet.

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    1. Yes, you did a great job of tying together the previous posts. Well done.

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    2. Thank you, ladies. It was your opinions that mattered most.

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    3. Cool writeup and comparison NBTDT, thanks

      Those who don't get Bill yet are trying too hard to not see it, and are mostly card carrying lemmings who are addicted to the Kool-Aid

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    4. I agree Oceans!

      Great article NBTDT!! It's very interesting to see what Bill is about from several perspectives. If it weren't for his narcissism and need for attention we wouldn't know much about the guy.

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    5. Bill is an Internet litter bug. It was easy to figure him out. Fool doesn't even realize he is his own worst enemy.

      It's part of what has always bothered me about the lemmings, it was all out there even without this blog, if they had only bothered to look. At this point, every one of them should be seeing his obsessive nature and his need to hurt people.

      There has been nothing done to help anyone, well except for Bill. It seems he wanted this TRO so he could continue going to court for attention.

      LOL- he is such an tool.

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    6. @ yappy & Oceans: thank you, as always your support means the world to me. (((hugs)))

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  2. Nicely said.

    It's amazing the similarities between Hitler and Bill. However I also see those same traits in certain small footed bloggers.

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  3. Marty of LA, thank you for taking a stand against homophobia. Please click here to learn more.
    http://lawlessnomore.wordpress.com/2013/08/23/human-anatomy-they-dont-teach-in-public-schools/

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  4. @ 6:25 - you are a little ahead of me, read the last sentence and wait for the next post...

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  5. Bill Windsor
    BILL WINDSOR IS ALIVE AND WELL AND NOT IN JAIL AT THIS TIME IN MISSOULA MONTANA - 4:26 PM MOUNTAIN TIME ON AUGUST 23, 2013.

    Guess who these guys are? Guess why they are there?

    Folks, the TV show has a new ending. Talk about something that could not have been scripted better. It's so perfect that if you saw it in a dramatic show, you would shake your head and say, I knew that was coming.

    As I quietly filmed in front of the University Center right smack dab in the middle of campus, these two gendarmes strolled up and served ME with a Temporary Order of Protection for Sean Boushie.

    That's right, every single law enforcement agency and judge in Missoula and Ravalli County has denied my massive evidence in my requests for protective orders against Sushie, but he lies his ass off and gets one against me.

    Now this is great because I got the entire episode on film, AND I get to have a hearing with the criminal and Wynette Boushie.

    I now have to stay 1,500 feet away from Sean Boushie and Wynette Boushie and 1,500 feet away from the University of Montana.

    LMFAO.

    I'm going to buy one of those rolling tape measures and get a student to measure off 1,500 feet, and I'm going to sit at the 1,501 foot mark tomorrow and film stories.

    Videos coming. SO EXCITING!!!!

    William M. Windsor

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    1. After he got the PO against him, he started to put up wanted posters for Boushie. If that doesn't get this jackhole arrested I don't know what will!

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    2. Why a student? Bitler can't use a rolling tape measure himself?
      He really does see himself as an elitist! And 'a student' will just fawn at the opportunity to do this little chore? Like they're not busy moving in or rushing frats &/or sororities or anything student-ish? Wow. Always all about him...

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    3. It all goes back to the post above from NBTDT. His people are making excuses for him now, and none of them want to see, that Bill documented HIS STALKING of TINY. His home, his place of employment, etc plus he called all the Judges and police corrupt because they didn't JUMP when he told them to.

      It is not corruption. Tiny did not do to Bill what Bill did to Tiny. Plain and simple. But, he won't get it, because he is a NARCISSIST.

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    4. How far is 15,000 feet? Higher than the Empire State building. High enough to stretch a tightrope across the Grand Canyon.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX_jFK9Zf5k

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  6. This is just too friggin funny.

    What a great way to start a weekend!

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    1. I always thought LMFAO had a vulgar word in it.

      Now I know the "F" merely stands for fat.

      I learn so much from this blog...

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    2. lol. How does that rap song go? I LIKE BIG BUTTS AND I CANNOT LIE! I may be mistaken but I believe Pastor Terry Jones has a death wish and why I will no longer participate in any further rallies. ONce he stated that he enjoys provoking people was when I needed to walk away as in Dearborn at the walk from City Hall to the Arab festival showed me the potential od many people getting injured in a Boston Marathon type bombing and why in conjunction with the Dearborn Police Department we agreed to suspend the walk as several young arab teenagers came running up with back backs and turning around and I did not want to be blown up and make the national evening news as shark bait. Look for the video of myuself with Pastor Jones. The best view or perspective is by a Detroit Free Press reporter who was right in the middle of the fracas with me and several other news reporters. My friend Dave Leval from My TV 20 was punched ion the kidneys and also did a nice piece covering this Freedom of Speech rally.

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    3. Ok Marty, so you walk away from Pastor Jones because he likes to provoke people, but you are sucked into Windsor who also likes & lives to provoke people. Did you even listen to his last video, you know, the one where he suckered all the brain dead followers into believing Sean had gotten the PO against him? (Ya, listen close to the police in that video, not Windbag)

      Ok, so Mr. Smarty Marty, explain why your sickass leader constantly misleads you people. Why does he make up outlandish lies and you people believe every word he utters or types without vetting for yourselves.

      You are a patsy IMHO. You are a follower. You believe anything anyone tells you, just like your new friend DW, who mislead you, so you would write his lies, and take off running. Do some research before you go posting your nonsense, and place innocent people lives in danger by numerous mentally unstable people, like your savior Bill Windsor, and his hard core nut job followers. (watch out for your new bestie, he's playing you, but you don't get it)

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  7. Ironic how Windsor didn't care for this blog but I'm guessing he will now make copies of this very same blog to prove Boushie is the bad guy. They both act like kids offended on the playground. The PO is probably why Boushie went stealth. Someone can't really claim to fear for their safety if they go on a blog and attack the same guy they are so afraid of.

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  8. Attorney, Email me please need to consult with you. You will want to hear about this.

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  9. More like Colonel Klink.

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  10. I have proof that lawless America Association was either formed fraudulently or Bill Windsor and His wife have perjured themselves in court. That is all I can say until I speak to the right people about this.

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    1. I agree great start to the weekend! Y'all have to do a radio show soon

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  12. Since we have so many armchair psychologists sitting in, I'll add this:

    As BW sits alone in his Motel 6 room, the rancid smell of his rented vest is almost unbearable. Is it just an optical illusion brought on by one too many microwave burritos or are the walls really closing in?

    I'll film it and figure it out in the morning. I've got plenty to report to my remaining faithful followers, MaryD and MartyP."

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    1. Forget the smell of the rented vest, I'd be more worried about the smell as microwaved burritos are processed...

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    2. Those two smells are probably the least offensive odors in that room tonight.

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    3. Looks like the US Justice Department wants to take a look at the Joey Dauben case and see if he was convicted of crimes that he may not have committed. Seems the distraught wife who claimed that her husband was abusing their children may have been one of the inposters from this group and then turned on Joey along with 2 or 3 of her Plano, Texas buddies. One of the 4 from that group have agreed to testify to what really happened with Joey Dauben and has been granted immumity from prosecution because of his testimony. Looks like the walls in Texas may be closing in on a few here in Texas and I wonder what the connection is between Gingersnap and the Gingerbread safe house. As always you all come back now. Nice to here from you Amber and Ann.

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    4. spell check Hear from you. And as the marine saying goes SEMPER FI! The ex-wife was prosecuterd for knowingly and willfully providing false information on a police report and the information that Joey Dauben had posted was public information. To my knowledge he did not post any medical information which is protected under Hippa laws or personal financial information like a ss # or bank account information. If someone is brave enough to provide me with an e-mail addreess I will forward a copy of the court order (that Megan NEVER showed up for) where she was cited and banned from any further blog posting sites and those who continued to post even under anonymous names will be in violation of that court order. Maybe Sean would like to post the photo of me in the US Congressional office of Congressman Pete Session along with then Congressman Pete Hoekstra from Michigan and a person who was running against US Congressman Sander Levin who is also from Michigan. Me a Nobody? Absolutely and I work best that way. Maybe Sean can find the time I was interviewed by Andrea Isom from Fox 2 news and post it for all you you to view. I made it clear that I did not want my name used. Although the Macomb Daily, the Detroit Free Press, the Detroit News, the Houghton Lake Resorter and the Jackson Tribune have all done stories regarding my activities both politically, socially and as a national elder advocate. So get on it Sean. The newspapers. and not the weiner.

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    5. What was that about spell check? Oh, you don't use it.

      Who are Amber and Ann? That's right, nobody around here.

      And, what do photos with random politicians mean? Oh, I know that one too, nothing.

      You did not want your name used? I don't buy it.

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    6. OMG talk about a Narcissist. Here Marty Dumbass Prehn comes on here, to post up his resume, which is about as useless as Windsor's. Here, let me toot my own horn about my importance! Please, someone, anyone, notice me and all the wonderful things I have done. ZZZzzzZZZZ

      PSHHHHHHH dude, you need a new reality check, because yours clearly bounced. You are just about as pathetic as Windsor. Who the hell are these people you name? You are so far off base, it's kind of frightening you are walking around free, and not tucked away in a nice little room in a comfy white jacket with buckles. It is laughable how easily Webb duped you!

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    7. "It is laughable how easily Webb duped you!"

      Also frightening. I don't know who is scarier, the person that told it or the one that believes it.

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    8. Marty, what does any of that have to do with Joey being convicted of raping a child? Last I heard,that's what he was sentenced to prison for,not some Hippa violations. Now I see why you are a Lawless America regional whatever. You're are as uninformed & stupid as the other followers. Who cares about some woman that recanted her testimony. Until the them teenage boy Joey raped recants,that b*ullshit you're talking about doesn't matter.

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    9. I'm starting to think Marty is getting high on his sons supply!!

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  13. Too much unnecessary censorship today.

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    1. Look, I'm the one that generally puts people in the spam bucket. And, it will be blatantly obvious why it was done, and I will tell you if I do. (and Ginger can always put it back if he disagrees)

      Ginger removed one comment today (which was already noted in the previous thread). The comment was removed because it gave the name of a woman that has absolutely nothing to do with the blog. The comment was reinstated without her name, and it still stands.

      Soooo, instead of crying censorship, why don't you just say, "hey, can you check the spam bucket, I don't see all my posts showing up." It's not hard. In fact, it's not all that rare that I have to fish my own comments out of there. So, cut it out.

      Thanks.

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    2. P.S. Yes, there were 9 comments in the bucket. Some were virtually the same in there twice. You can forward any further complaints to Google.

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    3. Ginger deletes. I spam. Spam is reversible. And, sure you can read the comment elsewhere, but it's much less googleable there. And that person can be responsible for their comment should that person care to dispute the validity.

      Yes, I have the almighty power. And, it was my post about a deceased woman and her depression. The little battle going on was petty.

      And what google deems spam is a far cry from censorship.

      Oh, and oops.

      I can be petty too. It's fun. Thanks for the recommendation.

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    4. Whatever, dude.

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    5. LOL Ollie Reader is too funny.

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    6. So much for this being a civil conspiracy. More a somewhat cooperative disorganized chaos. Group hugs on the house.

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  14. LMFAO@colonel klink

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    1. LOL Sluggo. When you put his words up there like that, one can only shake their heads! Perfect

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    2. Perfect Sluggo! I've missed seeing you around here.

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    1. Well, well, well, that is some interesting stuff right there. Barbara...tsk, tsk, tsk.
      Just how deep is the deception here?

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    2. Good job, Sean!

      I didn't know you had it in you!

      Well done, indeed.

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    3. And don't forget to read the rest of the document for juicy little details Windsor has forgotten.

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    4. Ninja, She said she did not know about it all or had nothing to do with it or no responsibility. I don't think a divorce gets you out of being the Director. If she did say that then well it is another fraud. Some people might claim I am giving a reason to sue more. I say his goose has been exposed and being slow roasted.

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    5. I smell a tax fraud there are more documents on the way

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    6. Exactly what I've been looking for, get ready Babs, this is going to be a bumpy ride darlin'.

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    7. Well, either she lied and knew or Bill set her up to take the fall. This will be interesting to see play out. (also, if there is not non profit listed on the IRS site, that is fraud. I still have not found a listing)

      Great job Sean! (oh, and what would you be sued for, getting the filed documents and question them? Nah, won't fly.)

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    8. Yawwwnnn, he'll call it stalking and threats. Probably claim the government falsified the forms, but then refuse to make public the genuine documents which every legit charity should make available.

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    9. A) Do you have a copy of the bylaws? I'd really like to see who qualifies for membership. Like, ability to fog a mirror?

      B) Did you read the later part of Article Seven? What a load of crap!!

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    10. Facts don't matter in the land of Pie. Bill just makes up his own and ignores the rest. I would even go so far as to say he believes his delusions. It's part of what makes him dangerous.

      He is like a pissed off 3 year old in a fat man's body. There isn't a whole lot of rational or even critical thought occurring.

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    11. Facts don't matter here either so what's the difference.

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    12. actually, facts do matter. I can post facts to back up what I am saying. Opinions are also posted here. It's really not hard to tell the difference.

      Here's an opinion for you, Bill will see all that is happening as some great conspiracy, and will attempt to file yet another law suit. He believes his word is the only one that is important and truthful.

      Here's a fact. The courts not agreeing with his delusions is not a conspiracy. There is no conspiracy.

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  17. Hahahahhaaa Bill is probably having a hissy fit in his room, and has probably consumed his body weight in pie to console himself.

    The only down side here is now he can go back to the world of subpoenas and continue with his waste of paper. I am grieving for the trees.

    And I hope no one helps him out with his measuring. Most judges will see his continued efforts at filming to be continuing his stalking, and his flaunting the terms of the TRO.

    LOL, someone will cross the line again...

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    1. He's currently consuming his weight in hamburger at Fudruckers. He calls it a celebration.

      In a way it is, Bill showed Boushie how to successfully obtain a restraining order. lmfao

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    2. LMAO!! Priceless! ^^^^

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    3. I said that the other day with his timeline of stalking. He just doesn't get it and he can't understand why no one else sees it his way. Yo Bill, you're batshit crazy! You don't go doing what you've been doing because you feel you've been wronged on the internet. This whole fiasco/movie has already been made and Kevin Smith should sue...in my honest opinion.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l1_8wefR7c

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    4. BILL WINDSOR OF LAWLESS AMERICA HAS BEEN BANNED IN MONTANA.

      He will miss the home games of the national powerhouse Fighting Grizzlies. He will miss the band performing, the school spirit, and the corruption.

      Aw shucks.

      Video coming soon. I'm going to Fuddruckers to celebrate today's law enforcement encounter.

      William M. Windsor

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    5. Fuddruckers with the visible dead cows, where is PETA? That yo-yo dieting puts a strain on all the body organs, most especially the heart. Starvation diets do not work because the metabolism slows down, and since he's an aging insomniac, his metabolism will already be slow. A sure sign that he is malnourished right now is that he made a beeline for sugar, salt and fat. A responsible fast can be healthy, but that includes a gentle transition out of the fast, and understanding that toxins may be flushed out along with the fat, which can stress the immune system. We don’t need another fad diet operated by someone as a get rich quick scheme. What we need is clean food and body awareness.

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  18. Since you're undoubtedly reading this, I have a question:

    "How was your day, BW?"

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  19. from Bill's LinkedIn :

    "From June 14, 2012 until February 9, 2013, I traveled to every state filming victims of government and judicial corruption. The documentary film, Lawless America, will premiere in January 2014. I traveled over 30,000 miles and filmed over 1,000 victims. Close to 2,000 videos have been created thus far and are uploaded to www.YouTube.com/lawlessamerica.

    In April 2013, I hit the road again to film the backstories for the best of the over 1,000 interviews. I will be traveling and filming until August."


    So he plans on the big movie to debut in January, and he will be done filming by the end of the month...

    ROFL- he must spend an awful lot of time updating his missed deadlines all over the place.

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    1. With the movie coming out in 2014, that must mean the Lawless American Revolution will not happen till 2015. Look how the Lemmings sit waiting for their unstable leader before taking any action on their own to further the Lawless America cause. Some revolution pbbbttt.

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  20. Like Oceans says, facts don't matter in the land of pie. The TPO Bill was served with is not for Sean Boushie. The police officers very clearly state the TPO is for Wynette Boushie and the U of M. IMO, this was absolutely the right call by authorities.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwr6eU3Pre0&feature=c4-overview&list=UUhwpfgqEZnbFH28fia8byPQ

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    1. LMAO - I guess this guy forgot the constitution is void.

      Rockguitarnow 15 minutes ago

      Remember Bill, the US Constitution rules where ever you walk in the United States. No matter what piddly county or locality you go to, the US Constitution rules.

      Remember also that the US Constitution protects you just like it protects all of us. All people are equal under the law, and if that county denies you your constitutional rights, you need to sue the county in federal court.

      The US Constitution protects us 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

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    2. ^^^^ I wonder if this guy is willing to put up the 50 grand so Bill can sue the county in federal court??

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    1. 1636 sheets, Sean.
      3 1/2 boxes.

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    2. *Snicker* I thought you were going to measure his known court filings stacked end to end.

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    3. http://youtu.be/aFMRYkvMVII redone ooops.

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    4. We will probably not hear from Bill for the rest of the weekend he will be busy with making a lawsuit up over the affidavit attached to the PPO.

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    5. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ_h2HC1DyI

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    6. lmao Sean you need to send it in to SNL

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  22. LMAO @Bill
    It is extremely obvious how nervous and shaken you were when you received your documents. Someone who also dons an over-extended smile is covering generally for seething rage.

    I guess Boushie and the University are gloating now huh? Must be a miserable ugly night for you dude.

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  23. YA he weighs 220!!!!! Hahahaha.... ON THE MOON!!!!!

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    1. Funny, when I was watching service of the TPO I was struck by how short Bill is next to the officers. I was thinking, since we don't usually see him standing with other people he looks taller. Then I saw this video posted below the TPO. He's so happy because he's described as being 140 lbs. But, he takes issue that the report says he's 5' 10". He says he's 6' tall. I don't think so. Based on the TPO video, I'd say the height estimate is as generous as the weight measurement.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmXLmvZOFG4&list=UUhwpfgqEZnbFH28fia8byPQ

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    2. LMAO I noticed that too. You're right, a 5'10 guess was probably generous. He did seem to be really offended by that. But, then again he has probably lied so long about his height, he believes himself. (pretty much sums up his entire life too)

      (wonder how short Schied is then. Damn! He was at least 4 inches or so shorter than Bill.)

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    3. Unless the job requirement for MT LE is you have to be over 6' 3".

      ~or~

      Could it be all this belly bumping and rebel rousing is a result of a bunch of men with Napolean Complex....

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    4. If you all wanted to know how tall he is you should have asked lmao. I stood next to him. He is at most 5'10". I know because I am 5'8" :-)

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  24. I guess Tinys quiet time wasn't him being a coward. Hahaha. Notice how nobody acknowledges "their bad" here either. Smh.....GOOD JOB TINY SUSHI! I HOPE YOU TAKE THAT MISERABLE NINCUMPOOP DOWN! Actually, I was rooting for Allie to be the one standing over him with her foot on his back, but the sooner the better.

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    1. Tiny doesn't have a restraining order against Bill so why is he quiet? I guess he's scared huh. I think his was denied because he's as bad as Bill as far as bullies go.

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    2. But if you want to attack the great people here, feel free. Your odd, out of place gloating only shows how low you flow. Aren't you the least concerned no one will turn the tables on your friend if you push this shit too far? Food for thought.

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    3. Please keep replying, it'll make my decision easier.

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    4. Lol. My friend? This is computerland. Turn the tables on whomever you'd like.......

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    5. I'm waiting........

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    6. You never know what some one states in private messaging will find it's way to.....

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    7. Oooooooh....this sounds exciting! Well, whaddya waitin fer? Ain't there tables ta be turnin? Private messages to release? LET'S DO DA DAMN THANG!.

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    8. Push & threaten, you're a sweetie aint cha? Some dont know when to stop like it's a game.

      Not posted on here but the person on the receiving end will be appreciative.

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    9. Threaten???? Wtf? Lol. Where do see a "threat" in anything I wrote? Are you a nincumpoop too? But.............


      *push*
      ;~D.


      I don't know if I think its really a "gaaaaame",
      But I do think you are a joke.
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    10. I'm mildly curious as to who you think my "friends" are, but its obvious you are a lil cray cray so who cares.
      You're pretty funny though.
      And its been a hoot fucking with you, but, I gotta run.
      Please make sure to leave just one more insane but hilarious comment!!
      I need one more giggle snort before I go nigh nigh.

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    11. When one of your friends start screaming "I wonder if that bastard on Joey's blog sent this to xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" then you'll know.

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    12. Well, since none of my "friends" even know what the joey blog is...that would be absolutely incredible! I can't wait to see which one of my friends is that awesome!

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  25. Bill can't sleep, lights are on in room 402. What could be troubling him?

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    1. LOL - microwaved burritos will get ya eventually

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    2. He was probably up all night writing a law suit about the violation to his first amendment rights as media. Oh, this is such an outrage!! He should (in his mind) be able to "Film" (stalk) with free reign. This is the Land of Windsor after all. He has all the rights, and we have none. (I would still like to know why no one has asked to see his press pass, media credentials, or asked to see his filming permit for Montana. But hey, those are just rules or laws the rest of us have to follow. Bill is BILL)

      "But now, the City of Missoula and the University of Montana have banned Bill Windsor from anywhere within 1,500 feet of campus. Looks like a Constitutional violation to me folks. Violation of my First Amendment rights under Freedom of the Press."

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    3. I am sure my e-mail to the university chief of police about windsors plan had no bearing on this either

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    4. i forwarded his email exchange to him. where Bill admits 100% to everything is true. That was the best part

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    5. he admits the truth? nah I ain't buying what you're selling today mr. fleming

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    6. Sean,I'd have to see that to believe it!!

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    7. Some of the exchange is in the youtube comments on the video where the judge assaulted him with a paper ball.

      This comment was there too. How nice!

      "Crystal Cox 1 week ago

      I Love You Bill, Thank You for your Strength and Perserverence. Victims of Montana Corruption need what you are doing, THANK YOU."

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    8. You are in my head again, Ninja. I was getting ready to post that little love note. Looks like they kissed and made up.

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    9. Isn't that precious! I guess that shirt that was ripped off her man chest was not done in vain

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    10. The mental of image of those 2 together? YIKES!!!!!

      Stop! Cease, Desist and freaking ABATE! Y'all don't plant those images in our minds! It's cruel.

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      Bills email

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    12. So give him your address...

      Imagine how much fun you could have!

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  26. His hate site is suspiciously quiet.

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    1. His hate site is probably pretty much Exhibit A in any harassment charge. No wonder he hasn't posted his latest "success".

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  27. BILL WINDSOR GETS A RESTRAINING ORDER:

    FROM SEAN BOUSHIE AND THE UNIVERSITY OF MONTANA

    After physically stalking Sean Boushie for a month, Bill Windsor gets a restraining order: ISSUED TO HIM

    It gets more hilarious each, and every day.

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  28. in light of the suicide of Trish. I start to wonder. if it is as Marty P. States from her involvement in Lawless America and pressing on into a huge political campaign then all of those people out there who are day in day out living every breath hate politics such as she and others felt that the only way for change was to gather angry mobs and have 50,000 support death penalty sentences as if it was the inquisition or the british in 1776. Really, people get all worked up about life and politics that they have strokes, heart attacks, and other health issues. They become mental patients over paranoia and much more. They let issues they have no control of bombard their personal lives. Look the facebook pages of some and you will never find photos of the great saturday afternoon BBQ they had because they never go they are at home digging up dirt on the next Joe for what? Then you wonder how lonely they get all secluded from family and friends because they don't want interaction. Though trish and david were two peas of the same pod. Sharing the American Dream or the American Revolutionary Dream. One might ask, how sick was she and did the stress she had from all of this political stuff enable cancer to come back. Just thoughts.

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    1. That is an interesting thought. My opinion is that you are probably right, and why LA has any supporters at all. The "leader" manifests his own drama and conspiracy theories, and actually believes them. Each and everyone of them does the same thing. Each and every day is spent focusing on who did them wrong, instead of personal accountability.

      Take for instance the very outspoken Susan Ramsey, who met and married one Stacy Ramsey while incarcerated, who among numerous actual crimes (murder), dismembered an innocent victim of the three people murder plot. In her mind, and Bill's, he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. The answer is "NO." He got what he deserved. Spin away, it won't change anything or bring that poor boy back to life. (I chose her, because today, she decided to do some Bill ass kissing when he was insulted that crazy-ass Pastor Paul didn't believe it was actually Bill posting on his personal page. (Yo, Pastor Paul, wake up and smell the boot. He just did to you what he does to anyone who questions him-dumbass)I do have to giggle snort here, because Pastor Paul was very supportive when Bill got all uppity with other people and kicked them to the curb. I'd say your sermon/lesson today Pastor was in Karma.

      So, yes, if they live in the conspiracy world, they will be consumed with false illusions of life, which will eventually destroy them completely. IMHO allegedly.

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    2. Sean I agree with you that stress is a trigger for cancer to form in the way of tumors and can return if not treated properly. I have not heard of any incidents at the memorial service and I hope that those that were asked not to attend did respect the wishes of Trish's immediate family. Could someone enlighten me as to the circumstances of the suicide of a Paul Horton from the Plano area in Texas or to the suicide of a youg political activist who I believe Trish may have been friend's with from the Ron Paul political bandwagan. I had met a David Dufenhoffer (not sure that the last name is correct) and he was a vocal activist with the Ron Paul movement. This youg lady took a shotgun and killed herself in front of her boyfiend and as I recall that is the 1st time i heard the name Jet Trish Kraus. I also know from talking with her on the phone that she was very disappointed at the lack of participation when they held their 1st Lawless America Michigan meeting in Grand Rapids and just a few people showed up. I was not able yo attend as I was on a work related matter. I did finally see the D. Schied video from the OC Commisioners meeting. Interesting to say the least however Sean go back and see that I went to the MC Commissioner's meeting 2 years ago prior to LA or meeting D. Schied and I did this own my own as SURPRISE I can think for myself and can speak for myself. So Megan Van Zelfden has nothing to do with this current Joey group is that what Ollie or Gingersnap are claiming? REALLY? I had a nice chat with the Police Chief in Colorado. His name is Mike Butler. That would not be her father would it?

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    3. It really doesn't matter who her father is. You are the latest person to fall for the stupidity of David Webb. He has an axe to grind with Gunger and has been trying to figure out who he/she is. I think he is on his third guess with the latest name he gave you. You're wasting your time chasing after a bad lead but,it seems you have plenty of time to waste so good luck! You really should ask your friend Bill how reliable the info That Webb gave him was.

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    4. We aren't claiming it, it is true. People like Webb have been trying to find out who we all are for quite some time. They sure seem to love chasing rabbits down the rabbit hole. I think it's funny they're so easily confused and fail so badly at sleuthing. Repeatedly, and publicly.

      The funniest part is you believing Webby about past events here, and/or who he wants people to be. He hasn't got a clue, but if you want to believe in him, go right ahead. LOL but you might want to check with Billy Boy, he can tell you how far astray he was led by Webb.

      Lawless America has nothing to show for all the time they have been trying. Not a single case has benefited, not a single law has changed, and nothing is planned for the future. Just more of Bill and his vendetta and vexatious attempts to hurt anyone who hurts his feelings.

      It's sad people still think he cares about anyone but himself. He does however, have tons of video clips he can watch when he get lonely.

      Maybe we should start guessing how long till he turns on you?

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    1. I think you have to be a friend to read that because it says it doesn't exist for me.

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    2. He said that once before.

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    3. Bill Windsor
      about an hour ago
      YOU KNOW THAT EXPRESSION, "GET THE HELL OUT OF DODGE?" WELL, BILL WINDSOR OF LAWLESS AMERICA DECIDED IT WAS TIME TO GET THE HELL OUT OF MISSOULA...AND MONTANA.

      You-know-who found out the alias my room was booked under, room number, and everything, and I received a message to that effect from him.

      He committed massive perjury in an affidavit he filed with the Municipal Court. Among others things, he said I was carrying a gun. I have published many times that I have no gun. Now get this, he claims he never emailed me.

      The Marriott was brokenhearted when I checked out.

      William M. Windsor

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    4. Sounds like one of those V8 commercials where the person smacks themself in the forward once they realize that they should have had a V8 to drink instead of the koolaid. I also believe that Trish was VERY disappointed after the 4 trips to US Congressman Kerry Bentivilio where she was made promises to that he and his office would look into the arrest of D. Schied when he was incarcerated for I believe up to 30 days. Like a house of cards one too many disappointments came into her life and it became too much for her to handle on her own and saw this as her only way out of her life in a complete downward spiral. In college I took aviation lessons and acquired a pilots license and one of the things required to pass the test was to get into what is referred to as a death spiral or a full power off stall where there is no longer any upward or forward movement of the plane and the front nose of the plane lunges forward and goes into a dive and then begins to turn at a very high rate of revolutions. If you fight it or try to correct it one your own you only make matters worse. Assuming you have enough airspace between the plane and the ground is to do what many are taught in their various religious teachings and that is to simply LET GO and let the plane correct itself. Sounds easy but does hard. The other lesson to learn is that we are all human and all make mistakes. Some worse than others. It may have been too hard for Trish to ask for help as in doing so she would have to admit failure on her part. The easiest way that I know to correct that is to admit ones fault and ask for forgiveness and move on. From comments that were made on her fb page and I have them before they were deleted most did not know that she was dealing with the issues in her life that made her to think she was a failure. Those that knew her knew that she was far from being a failure but sadly in the end she died from a broken, heart a broken spirit and all alone.

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  30. Completely off topic, but I found this guy tucked in with some of Bill's videos. Wild Bill is his name, he swings waaaaaay right. He is an oath keeper. I'm posting the link as we agree on this matter - execution of no knock warrants by PD should be a very rare exception. In debates with cops, I'm usually shouted down and this guy is an ex cop. A close friend of mine (for those in Dallas area - Carlton Marshall, DPD) was almost killed serving a no knock warrant, in just the situation Wild Bill describes.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0_tr1LgJxE&list=UUh_pjHONrnhzFbPv1Sg5EnA

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  31. Almost every category is filled here too united of people apologists unable to take criticism lol oh the irony

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    1. You are absolutely correct, IMO. But, it's not in the least bit ironic. It is human nature. Now, the only thing left for you to figure out is which category are you?

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  32. I can't help but wonder who's next in the great 2013 stalking tour.

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    1. Well, let's check his shit list

      Criminal charges were previously made against Allie Overstreet, Mark Supanich, Sean Boushie, Claudine Dombrowski, Lorraine Tipton, Shannon E. Miller aka Elizabeth Hope Hernandez, Jennifer Herbert aka Jennifer Dotson, Kimberly Wigglesworth, Brannon T. Bridge, Connie Bedwell, Justin Thompson, Loryn Ryder, Cheryl Sosby, Gail Lakritz, L. Wilson, Lisa Jones, Trinity Baker, Diane Gochin aka Diane Rose aka Diane Rostesky, Curtis Butler, Edward Hernandez, Jay Roland, and others. There are more people to be named in criminal complaints when time permits, including Albert Fiorini, Dontae Givafuque, Jeff Swiney, Robert Coleman, and others.

      Check off, EHH, Brannon, Claudine, Sean Boushie and most importantly, Allie Overstreet. I am not sure if Mark Supanich counts but he was there at the kangaroo court hearings. If not then I guess it makes sense that since Supanich is in Montana and Bill's being drummed out of town on to the next. Then who's next? East or West? North or South? Decisions decisions.... go East, stay in the North. I so wish a motherfucker would.

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    2. Another way for him to behave like a terrorist is to leave in doubt who he will attack next. Psycho has a list and a rating system. Sicko Santa is coming to town. Maybe we should cooperate with authorities and each other to get him off the street,huh?

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    3. Anon 1:02, 3:00, and 4:43, last I checked people are cooperating with the authorities. And, this blog was early to question and expose Bill Windsor for what he really is. Ginger has been the most disciplined person in the entire endeavor.

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    4. @Anon 4:43?

      Pffffffffffffffffffffftttttttttttt.

      Sounds vaguely familiar & tired. Many have gone before & have yet to make a dent in the pie pan.

      Seems, from here in the shade of Ginger's yard, that it is game long OVER for Bill.
      He's lost his dearest daily ego stroke, his great Lawless America Facebook page, no one hangs on his latest post.
      He sucks at blogging.
      His YouTube videos are laughable, more so than ever before now that he's caking on mascara.
      He's divorced.
      He has no home basement to hide in for days on end.
      He has no one to ignore, they all quit calling or emailing him.
      He's catless.
      This blog is the most attention he gets.
      And, some of us are more interested lately in his few remaining, weirder followers than Bill.
      He's spun and done.

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    5. Much can be learned by reading about Pastor Terry Jones. Look at the lack of media attention in Lansing, Michigan and what kind of turnout was there? If what is posted here is true then a narcissit (sp) will ride off into the sunset if no one is paying any attention to him or responding. Like the analogy (no this is not the study of the anus) if a plane is left alone it is built and designed to correct itself. So has anyone had the tits or the testicles to watch my filmed interview that I did? Any thoughts? Do I sound brainwashed or made to say things against my will? The answer is no. So just curious am I one of those few remaining weirder then Bill followers or maybe I am not who you think I am and several people post comments under my name. I am also interested to see how many from the Joey blog are members of the Scientology group that Megan belongs too and if Dymphna is the Patron Saint of the INSANE that you hold near and dear to your hearts. What ever happened to Petunia? Just remember where the gold is it is either in the ceiling or the attic.

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    6. Many have gone before & have yet to make a dent in the pie pan.

      ROFLMAO- great comment - OMG- I may have to use this one someday LOL

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    7. Petunia's floating on the Freewinds boat Scientology owns. I thought you knew Marty, it's in the homeland security files you claim to have. Huh odd that wasn't revealed.

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    8. ^^^^ That wins comment of the day!!!!!

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    9. Marty?
      I wouldn't watch your YouTube video with free corrupted bandwidth wifi on a rented device. I'm not that cruel to my devices. I do hope you don't use as much mascara as your fearless leader Bill. It's not a good look.
      And Marty? Dude? Really? Pastor Jones? Yack. Keep his mess away from over here.

      I dunno the chick you keep referring to over & over, & I've been here awhile, but, I did Google her though, you oughta try that.

      Cast & reel, Marty, just keep casting & reeling~
      Let us know when you get something in the Toybota worthwhile.
      We'll be over here. Anxiously awaiting your latest, with our tinfoil helmets securely fastened.

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  33. To Sean D. Flemming. I do appreciate Sean your insight into setting priorities and still making sure that ones family is their 1st priority. As I stated in earlier posts that everyone has a breaking point and there is only so much a heart and ones mental well being can take before they assume that the only way out is to take their own life (that is still open pending the police investigation as to the circumstances of her sad death). To think that she will never make amends with Rachel for words that were written or said or never be able to sit one of her several grand children on her lap and read a bedtime story to them or see them graduate or get married is extremely sad. I am not one to be of the tough love group and shut a person out of ones life. As I reflected yesterday on Trish's life and death I was reminded of several songs song by Karen Carpenter who in her own way took her life as she became convinced that no one would or could love her or accept her if they knew the faults that she thought she had. One of the lines from one of those songs goes "Don't they know it is the end of the world. It ended when you said good bye". Trish as I knew her and have read about her is that she asked for perfection from a quite imperfect world and in her mind was a fool to think that is what she would find. I spend my time trying to help others and for that I get critisized. But I consider the source. I unlike alot on this blog site choose to look for the good in people and not the bad or their flaws or shortcomings. Again my thought and prayers are with Trish's family and her dear grandchildren who will never realize how wonderful their Grandmother really was and how she was loved and will always beloved by people regardless of any shortcomings she may have had. Peace to you all.

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    1. Marty you are a hypocrite. You said "I unlike alot on this blog site choose to look for the good in people and not the bad or their flaws or shortcomings." yet you have said Trish's death was caused by her family and this blog. Then, you invite Trish's ex husband for coffee? Seriously, you cause more stress and trauma with your presence. And you now say how said it is for Rachael. You are a sick man Marty. It's too late now, to pretend you care for them, and about them. You already put your foot in your mouth.

      You don't care about Trish so STFU. (And the more you keep provoking the issues behind her death, you are incriminating Lawless America and David Schied. Since as you admit, you didn't know what was going on in the background, you just assume. Dumb man who helps on one and in fact, just stirs the pot wherever you go.)

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    2. @ 5:45 - why are your panties all in a bunch? Nobody but the folks in MI understands a word of what he said in this post. If it's as convoluted as the stuff he heard about this blog's history nobody with 1/2 a brain believes it. Let it go, enjoy the show...

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    3. Good point. Panties out of bunch. Ignoring Farty Marty from now on.

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    4. Marty, format with coherent paragraph breaks or it's coming down again.

      Thanks!

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    5. APPLAUSE OLLIE READER!

      Thank you dear sir!

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    6. Rachel in her comments admits that she was sorry that they never were able to reconcile and the words that she posted to her mother cannot be taken back. It is sad as her children have lost their grandmother and April, Jonathan and Rachel lost their mother. Words cut like a knife and it was not one specific thing that made Trish feel like she was lost and that no one loved her anymore. My comments are not incriminating anyone except the person or persons who may have play a part in her demise. I believe I know more about what went on the most on this blog site.

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    7. lmao Marty you know nothing. You're wrong on every count and allegation you've made about this blog and you're outrageously wrong about the person who runs it. It's rip roaring hilarious just how HOW far off you are.

      You're a delight for entertainment and some funny shits n giggles on our private FB club. Oh the joy. Please keep it up, I love a good laugh. :D

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    8. I always laugh when people say that crap Marty. Thanks.

      So you think you know more than others- what do you want, an special pat on the back, or some ass kissing like Bill?

      No one here was involved with Trish. Her death is sad, and a loss for those who knew and loved her. Yes, you shouldn't say things in anger, because you may never be able to take them back or say you're sorry. Most adults know this, and those who don't someday will.

      No one will ever know why suicide became the answer. Just stop trying to drag this out or include people in it that have never known Trish. You are on my last nerve. Leave Rachel and the rest of Trish's family alone and quit with the innuendos.

      No one is going to beg you to reveal anything. Especially since you are so clueless about so many other things here.

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  34. Bill windsor is believed to spending the night in Cody, WY

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  35. I think I gotta woody Marty and Imma girl. Be still my heart.

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  36. Hello Marty Prehn,
    Remember me..... aren't you just a great guy! Contacting all media in Ohio for Loryn Ryder about her (fake) story. Howd that go for ya? Epic fail... Well maybe you found out she lies about everything. I heard a person from Michigan was paying all of Loryns living expenses (new car!) and apartment along with her mother (another serial false abuse accuser). Would you possibly know that person? lmao.....

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    1. I heard Loryn's fiancee dropped her 2oz ass so she must have a sugar daddy on the side. Did you notice she doesn't live in that huge home anymore. I think she lasted all of 3 months in that place but she's back to a little condo.

      She's also been slapped with a gag order to stop calling her daughter's custodial father a you-know-what. The silence has been golden eh 3:44 anon?! It's about time some of these crazies mouths are zipped, the damage they cause to real abuse cases is horrible.

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