Tuesday, February 19, 2013

William M Windsor: An American Terrorist


So I have been doing some reading up.  First, on the latest over at Quatloos about Billy:
http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=7690&hilit=windsor&start=40

As you can see, these guys have been following him along with a hoard of other characters they all call a part of the Sovereign Citizen Movement.  This got me to really thinking back to when Windsor devoted an hour of filming to his buddy Carl Swensson of the Birther Movement.  Then I ran across this article:
http://www.salon.com/2009/04/01/birthers/

Did you catch that?  He pulled this citizen grand jury on the very day, April 1st, that Billy has announced he will do his own version on.  Obviously Carl is advising him on this.  Windsor is trying to learn from the mistakes Carl did in limiting it to just the Birther movement.  The Why isn't important, its the end result that matters.  This is why Windsor is allowing any and everything into his fake movie.  We can go from a guy who wants his cybersquatting rights, to mothers trying to get their kids back, to a guy trying to make his own currency and then to a slum lord trying to put up big billboards wherever he wants.  There is nothing that connects these people other than they agree with Billy's preamble that the court system is broken and needs to be fixed.  As long as you agree to that tenant, you are on his team.  Your particular issue matters not, just the end goal.

But lets get back to this Sovereign Citizen Movement that all these characters seem to fit under.  The FBI considers the SCM a domestic terrorist group and a growing threat to law enforcment. 
http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/law-enforcement-bulletin/september-2011/sovereign-citizens

"They could be dismissed as a nuisance, a loose network of individuals living in the United States who call themselves “sovereign citizens” and believe that federal, state, and local governments operate illegally. Some of their actions, although quirky, are not crimes. The offenses they do commit seem minor"
"However, a closer look at sovereign citizens’ more severe crimes, from financial scams to impersonating or threatening law enforcement officials, gives reason for concern."

And they conclude with this:
"Although the sovereign-citizen movement does not always rise to violence, its members’ illegal activities and past violent—including fatal—incidents against law enforcement make it a group that should be approached with knowledge and caution"

Lets look at what the Anti-Defamation League has to say about this movement and the similarities we can see in Billy:
http://archive.adl.org/learn/ext_us/SCM.asp?xpicked=4

"The key distinguishing characteristic of the sovereign citizen movement is its extreme anti-government ideology, couched in conspiratorial, pseudohistorical, pseudolegal and sometimes racist language. Many extremist movements in the 20th century have been anti-government in the sense that they opposed governmental policies, but few have been so purely anti-government that they challenged its very legitimacy"

This sounds like our guy doesn't it?

"Members of the Posse Comitatus believed that the county was the true seat of government in the United States. They did not deny the legal existence of federal or state governments, but rather claimed that the county level was the "highest authority of government in our Republic as it is closest to the people." The basic Posse manual stated that there had been "subtle subversion" of the Constitution by various arms and levels of government, especially the judiciary."

Uh huh, this is why he wants people in all 3,300 counties across the nation to bring the charges at the county level.

Paper Terrorism

"Yet despite a pattern of violent activity, the preferred weapon of members of the sovereign citizen movement is what has come to be called "paper terrorism." Paper terrorism involves the use of fraudulent legal documents and filings, as well as the misuse of legitimate documents and filings, in order to intimidate, harass and coerce public officials, law enforcement officers and private citizens"

There is our boy Billy to the T.  And don't forget his illegal use of a 501c3 non-profit.

"One of the first tactics of the resurgent sovereign citizen movement was the formation of vigilante "common law courts." Members of these courts used them as a forum for grievances against the "de facto" government or for assistance in attempts to harass their enemies"

Yep, this is exactly where we are headed with this next phase in the Lawless Terrorist Network.


"The filing of frivolous lawsuits and liens against public officials, law enforcement officers and private citizens, on the other hand, has remained a favorite harassing strategy. These paper "attacks" intimidate their targets and have the beneficial side effect of clogging up a court system that sovereign citizens believe is illegitimate."

OMG, just stop it, this is way to accurate and telling.

So, as you can see, this is who Bill Windsor is, and this is also where we are headed.  When the lemmings file their made up charges against law enforcement officials, they will be engaging in domestic terrorism along with Bill.  And it needs to be overstated that everyone involved with Lawless America is connecting themselves with terrorist activities specificity delineated by the FBI.  Ignorance is no excuse.  You either wake up now, or finally figure it out when you are behind bars.  The Pied Piper is leading you down a patch of certain destruction.



223 comments:

  1. Spot on Ginger, great job. You nailed him and his plot. I had a feeling there was something very deceptive behind all of this. Hindsight, my "LawSuit America" phrase.

    I wonder now, if the reason for the DOJ stopping by here, was to gather more information on the terrorist activities they are already investigating.

    The timing of the Lawless page going down, to my knowledge was after they were looking here. I suspected they were going to cease that page, and gather all the names of the participants. I wonder if all the names are in a data base, and once they file any of pie boys silly suits, they will be charged.

    I also noticed that his SOTU link is not on his page now, or I am missing it. It was pinned at the top for a few days. I wonder if that video will become evidence and used against him, and anyone who files anything, to link them all together as a terrorist group.

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    1. I think they are certainly monitoring him, but they probably want to catch him in the act. Up until now he has just been talking about it, I bet they want to nail him as he tries it

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    2. I agree. They have to wait until it's not just idle blah blah.

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    3. yeah, I have no doubt they want to put the fat man away, not just piss him off

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    4. Pie Man Zombie HunterFebruary 19, 2013 at 10:23 AM

      I do Agree 100% but some of his victims, do not understand this plus, he is using alot of good people to follow him. I do hope he go to Jail, but he is working on a Alibi.... the Mail order Bride Pastor can used his personal profile, they will need to take down all of them that are working together because he is going to yell it was hack or this was the pastor idea

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    5. I also believe he keeps the really hard core angry people and groups in there because they will not stop until the succeed in their plots. They are blinded by vengeance, so what better groups to keep in there? Ones that will not cow tow to anyone in the Govt.

      Those are the ones that don't post anything. Those are the ones that simply share articles between themselves.

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    6. It is a great article Ginger. I agree that he has always kept his association with the Tea Party and other such groups as well hidden as he can. There is no doubt though, that he is FOLLOWING the lead of some of these groups.

      Last year one of them actually got pretty mad at Willy because he was taking credit for an idea that had been around for a long time, lol.

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  2. I just wanted to say I have been looking at this site for a week, I find it informative, and a delight, Im using a proxy as I just dont trust the internet, But let me just say this, Here in Montana they know whats going on with certain people and the hammer is just about coming down, And for the record I do not know john smith and only heard of him here,Really enjoyed your show the other night I needed a chuckle and Thank You for giving me one,

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    1. yeah you know as I have researched this Sovereign Citizen Movement, it has a huge base in Montana. Texas, Georgia and Montana all seem to be key states for this movement.

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    2. *mind blown*

      Should I be moving back up to the land of the Tundra? ;)

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    3. Anon, could you put some kind of signature at the end of all of your posts so that we can tell you apart from all of the other anons? If you do that, we can learn "who you are".

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    4. @ New Anon: LOL - too funny, thx for letting us know right away who your friends aren't. And, thx for joining us.

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    5. @Susan

      There is that better?

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    6. Susan kiss my A$$February 19, 2013 at 11:56 AM
      @Susan

      There is that better?



      lmfao

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    7. Hi anon!

      I'm perfectly fine with your choice to remain anonymous. Not all around here are THAAAT uptight :)

      And we're happy you also had some chuckles from the show - humor is the best medicine of all. That's why I will probably live to be about 300 years old to some people's dismay.

      I HEART ALL THE ANONS! and ditto to the Susan KMA anon - point taken. She really needs to learn to relax and take a chill pill eh?

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    8. I'm not the least bit interested in the anon's identity. But interestingly, only last week I saw some of the regulars asking the anon's to do the same thing.

      This "new anon" clearly wants to develop an identity here. When she posts something, she wants people to connect it back to her previous posts and to her radio appearance. It doesn't take a genius to realize that the easiest way to accomplish that is to sign some kind of name under each post. Mary B. has been providing a prefect example of that.

      Anon 11:56 and Anon 12:03, yes, if you would consistently use that screen name, it would be better than "anonymous" with no signature. Thank you!

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    9. ^^^^ passive-aggressive sample above

      We're pretty certain Susan (if that's your real name, or is it Bill something?) that if any anon's want to separate themselves and stand out like you love to do, they are GENIUS enough to make that choice of their own free will without any of your superior guidance.

      Nothing like welcoming a new person with your not-so-clever veiled insults.

      I cannot get past so many of your posts in favor of Billy and I strongly dislike ANYONE who is such scum to hurt innocent souls like he continues to do.

      I suppose though, given its a free Country and all plus your explanation below to his reasons why he's doing what he's doing, you'll continue to give him a free pass for his sick evil side to his personality.

      Where's that Susan quotes ? ... but the truth is Windbag is merely exercising his complete right to complain to and about the government. As crazy as he is, he has not broken any laws. *I* would actually have to join those that protest against it.

      In this country he is allowed to make his position known by ANY peaceful means. How much more peaceful can you get than sending out what amounts to some junk mail,



      Yeah, Billy is peaceful and if anyone dare shut him down, I have already seen for weeks how Susan will be the first in line.

      Ok, my 0.2 cents tossed at you for the day.

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  3. Ginger this is why I must call in we can talk about this very thing. I have seen this same sentiment be carried out in Michigan starting with the harassment of judges and also the blatant disregard to court security measures. It's disturbing and also remarks from lawless Michigan that they understand why Tim McVeigh bombed the fed building. They say they are sympathetic to him because the corruption. What bothers me more about these lemming is that they are all Alex jones followers and now jones is almost just about calling for another 1776 he's a nut case but if you get enough whack jobs thinking the government is tyrannical people and you should form a militia agaist them that is what is going on and I see bills movement going in that direction especially with the words of treason.

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    1. yeah thats brings up another thing, there aren't just lemmings following Bill. I could call the lemmings as those who are concerned about their own issue and put their blind faith in Billy.

      But there is also a group of advisers and followers inside LA who know exactly what he is doing and where this is all headed. We can sometimes see it sneak out in when they say sandy hook was a coverup or they side with the former LA cop who went on his rampage. There are some really evil people just below the surface in this LA movement.

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    2. Ginger, the Michigan for parental rights group has a member deanna Kloostra who put on her victims of judge Gardner page that sandy hook was a hoax. Basically we're dealing with a group which has many people who believe in anti- government conspiracy and also that the United Nations are globalists and that the new world order is taking children away. Loryn Ryder has posted before that she believes that her custody case is governed by the United Nations and many of these same people believe in agenda 21. Here is a great story; http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2012/spring/behind-the-green-mask

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    3. Of course I have to add to this mess Sean, Connie Bedwell is purporting her dad and brother are Elijah and Moses reincarnated to come back and literally kill all the judicial corruption and the rest she 'hates'. I wonder when her dad will just get with the lightning bolts, he's stuck in prison in Alaska facing 36 child rape charges.
      (Of course, for her dad it's all false accusations, but her own allegation is 'true'. yah, ok then)

      They all have one common theme - they want to annihilate people. Plain and simple.

      There is good reason they do not have custody.

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    4. Pie Man Zombie HunterFebruary 19, 2013 at 11:18 AM

      @sean you just made laugh while drinking my coffee, Billy and Sarah have mock me for posting SPLC and why they Call AMPP a hate group because I posted this

      http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2012/spring/a-war-on-women

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    5. You know there is a group of extreme people supporting everything the main thing is that they can get out of control and become a danger. They also can take away from legitimate issues.

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  4. Ginger, I've thought for a long time, there's something more sinister at play with Bill. Up until now I couldn't quite put my finger on it, simply believing he was probably just a lonely mentally ill narcissist who needed attention.

    Seeing this in black and white - blows all my previous assumptions out of the water. Thank you Ginger, awesome post!!

    A quote that caught my eye from the salon.com article you posted above:

    "Plus, there’s an implicit threat of violence here. Swensson and his group are claiming the right to the same method of redress granted to those 13th century barons."

    *Whoomp, there it is*

    Then this -

    http://nationalsecuritylawbrief.com/2012/11/12/domestic-terrorists-the-sovereign-citizens-movement/

    "Since the basis of the movement is rooted in law, albeit a false one, they will clog the courts with motions and paperwork in an effort to obstruct the court. When that inevitably fails, they also tend to file frivolous lawsuits and liens against any government official, police officer, or judge who rules against them. However, that might just be the beginning. Hard-core true believers have gone on to threaten the lives of judges, law enforcement, and government personnel."


    We can see a few of his hard-cores online but I believe there's a few more intelligent enough NOT to post out in the open. Maybe there is something to Billy's email claims about being 'hacked'? Hmmm


    http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/law-enforcement-bulletin/september-2011/sovereign-citizens

    In Kansas City, Missouri, three sovereign-citizen extremists were convicted in a phony diplomatic credential scandal. They charged customers between $450 and $2,000 for a diplomatic identification card that bestowed “sovereign status,” supposedly to enjoy diplomatic immunity from paying taxes and from stops and arrests by law enforcement.5

    I think the above may be the next step for Bill to solicit further donations? Time will tell.

    So what was the most telling thing to me about his DC non-Donahue like speech? He spoke of his long-term old wealthy friends he first approached for $$$ prior to hitting the road with his Lawless America movement. He readily admitted they all declined and only one bothered to email him, wishing him well.

    I don't know about anyone else but if my (real) life-life long friends, rich or poor, refused to back me even with a mere $5.00, it speaks volumes to who & what type of person they believe I am.

    I would go with Bill's old friends - they know him far better than any of us ever could. If they smelled some serious stink from Bill, how can the lemmings not understand who and what they're following IS A FICTIONAL character - made for TVland. But this fictional character has some real-world dangerous elements Ginger has so smoothly laid out for the rest of us to see.

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    1. yeah he can say "we are a peaceful movement" all he wants but once he starts serving officials with his made up charges at the very least, violence or more specificity force is implied.

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    2. Revolution in today's politics= tea party, Ron paul.

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    3. Didn't someone that the pie man kicked out, post an email to pie man asking what to do with the passports?

      Also, there was a rumor that a wealthy man in So. Cal gave the pie man a substantial amount of money. He filmed this man several times, probably to make him feel he was getting his moneys worth.

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    4. I caught that "what to do with passports" question more than once in various comments of different individuals on the LA page of Facebook....right now, I can't seem to find those, hmmm? Deleted? Without a doubt!
      I've mentioned before how irritatingly puss cake I find deleting of posts, comments... If it's worthy of putting out? Let it ride! If you find out it (you) were wrong, THEN correct it. But, just deleting willy nilly or because you disagree or don't like the content/context? Pure puss cake. CAKE. Not puss pie! Cake is fluffier...

      By the way, you fat ass, pie eating, lying, scamming, USA hating Bill Windsor~ my comment regarding the BANGLEDASHer's LIKES on your shitty Lawless America page was spot on! You know it, 50% of your lemmings know it & so does everyone else! Why not re-butt my truthful, factual comment? Why you gotta puss cake out & delete it? Oh! I know! Because if a more upstanding, halfassed intelligent visitor to your FakeBook page saw what an assrag you were? You'd lose them. AND, why did I use this space to address you? Because I know you, Windsor, & AllieCat &/or Dottie are here SO OFTEN, reading Ginger's HUGE truth, & I know Ginger won't ever delete anyone's words. Ginger will let your stupid shit hang for all eternity, for anyone to read. And re-read. And giggle snort while reading! It's not my fault that you're too eat up with dumb-ass to figure out how to admin your page so that posters like myself couldn't end up spouting off some truth! I didn't even have to click LIKE to post either! Booyah! Eat that! Oh? & that attempt to have FaceBook take away my Petunia account? not gonna work! I gave them my phone #, my ID & an email! I passed!

      GREAT read today, Ginger! You NEVER disappoint! Thank YOU! I couldn't wait to finish my daily work, to get over here! You nailed it perfectly! Explains that DOJ visit! **waves to the G-guys & gals**

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    5. Thanks Miss P. I knew I saw that somewhere. *headin outa dodge when the shit go's down papers.

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  5. Tammy Stroud
    I want to put it out there that There are "TWO great men that are for the history books of our great country and internationally
    ... they are LARRY HOLOL AND BILL WINSOR ...
    God Bless the USA!!! And God Bless All Countries in the persuit of justice, freedom and the persuit of happiness ... for all!!!
    A note of appreciation to both of you. God Bless.

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    1. He's gonna go down in the history books alright, but not like they think.

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  6. I put this article in 6 diff. places on his FB page, once is a post the others are under comments

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    1. good, something tells me he isn't going to like how this all "bings" out.

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    2. I sent it to Allie personally.

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    3. Pie Man Zombie HunterFebruary 19, 2013 at 11:41 AM

      she is a fake profile set up to be a Ballyhoo..... Billy is the Barker

      Its longer, original form, "Ballyhoo," has come into general usage meaning "to attract the attention of customers/voters by raising a clamor." The word originated at the 1893 Columbian Exposition in Chicago, in the "Streets of Cairo" pavilion. The performers from the Middle East spoke only Arabic. Exhibit manager W.O. Taylor would call the Beledi dancers (a term later corrupted, also by Taylor, to "belly dancers") and musicians out during slack periods to attract a crowd

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    4. Pie Man Zombie HunterFebruary 19, 2013 at 11:44 AM

      sorry that was to post above

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  7. Pie Man Zombie HunterFebruary 19, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    Tammy is a fake profile it is a Ballyhoo......alot of the fake profile are set to be a Ballyhoo

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  8. I know this won't be a popular view, but the truth is Windbag is merely exercising his complete right to complain to and about the government. As crazy as he is, he has not broken any laws. Unless or until he does, if the government tried to shut him down, *I* would actually have to join those that protest against it.

    In this country he is allowed to make his position known by ANY peaceful means. How much more peaceful can you get than sending out what amounts to some junk mail, lol?

    The big day of filing "criminal charges" in courts across the country will achieve exactly the same results as D.C. The prosecutor receives the request, takes a quick glance at it, probably sends out a form letter stating that the request must be denied as a matter of law, and forgets about it.

    I'm sure Windbag thinks it will be a big enough deal to possibly get news coverage. It's really D.C. all over again. All of those packets went right in the trash and so will these letters to the prosecutors.

    As protests go, I'm pretty sure the courthouse would prefer this little paper protest over having people picketing outside. The only people that will be hurt by this GJ thing is the people that sign their names to these idiotic requests. In the event that anyone actually reads them, the writer is likely to be remembered as a "nutcase" in their local court. In sum, these people are inviting trouble in their personal lives, without any chance at all of getting one step closer to their goals. If they would weigh the cost/risks against the benefits, they would save their postage.

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    1. @ Susan: I agree with you in principal, but not application. Using words like revolution, treason and phrases like take over the country are inciteful. Bill is speaking to the public in public forums without concern for how those words and phrases may be interpreted or by whom.

      How many more McVeighs, Nichols and Kanes are out there listening? I know there's one guy living east of Dallas than concerns me. I had forgotten about him until I read this post, I can't recall his name right now, he's one of Bill's "victims", I heard him call in on a Talkshoe show several months ago. As the failure of Bill's peaceful "revolution" becomes apparent, I think the words he is using now could become a public safety concern. If there is any violence as a result of Bill's "activism", whether intentional or not, Bill ought to be put in the jail.

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    2. It is not treason to call for the removal of government officials that are violating our constitution.

      It is pretty funny that he is using the word "revolution", while insisting he intends to follow our constitution. A revolution seeks to replace the current SYSTEM of government with something different.

      What he wants to do is clean house. Apparently he can't think of a catchy name to describe that and he doesn't know what "revolution" means. smh

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    3. @NBTDT: "If there is any violence as a result of Bill's "activism", whether intentional or not , Bill ought to be put in the jail."

      Now that's just silly. He is trying to be a voice for change. He is trying to incite them to make their voices heard. As long as he doesn't condone violence or lawlessness, he is not responsible for what his followers do.

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    4. The more I read your posts Susan, the more I SEE A SUPPORTER OF BILL.

      WHY is that?

      He absolutely calls for ALL government to be removed. He even states that repeatedly during his "SILLY" SOTU youtube speech no one but 'us stooooopid' people at the clubhouse listened to.

      You don't like our blog, you don't agree with Gingers posts, you clearly cannot stand our satire or humor but you continue to come here and poke at others as if your some superior being.

      Yet at the same time you ask for the simplest links and information, then when its provided, you brush us all off and PROCLAIM it all to be YOUR newly found info???
      Wow just a tad transparent dear.

      All I see is a very cunning passive-aggressive woman named Susan. But hey, that's just my point of view and by your accounts, no one listens to my drivel anyway :D

      ooops, forgot your mantra

      Hope that helps.

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    5. Pie Man Zombie HunterFebruary 19, 2013 at 12:58 PM

      I agree with NTDT, because he talk about guns and death threat then uses Ballyhoo to get the Lemmins to worship him.....I do not think he is going to do it, but I feel he is telling people to yell fire in a movie Theater......He know it a crime that why he using and conning these people

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    6. Up until now, yeah he hasn't crossed the line. Calling for a new political party to oust everyone and going to DC to give everyone a CD to throw away is well within his grounds of free speech.

      But now as we talk about citizen grand juries indicting elected officials and then serving them with these charges is getting right up on the line, if not over it. And do you think it stops here? I don't, I think he is going to walk right up to that line and at least some of his followers will cross it. Too many of them are desperate with nothing to lose, once they believe they really have a legitimate order for an arrest, I don't think they will stop at no.

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    8. Deleted original to add something to it:

      @Yappy:

      “The more I read your posts Susan, the more I SEE A SUPPORTER OF BILL.”

      What you see is an objective perspective. With all of the condemnation here of Willy’s lies, the truth is that some people here display a lack of objectivity. When people see that a critic is not objective, the critic loses credibility. I therefore prefer to present a balanced, objective view of what I see.

      “You don't like our blog, you don't agree with Gingers posts, you clearly cannot stand our satire or humor but you continue to come here and poke at others as if your some superior being.”

      Where did I say I don’t like your blog? If I have disagreed with some of what Ginger writes, is there something wrong with that? If I didn’t have any of my own thoughts, wouldn’t I be assigned the dreaded lemming classification? What makes you think I can’t stand your humor and what constitutes “poking” at others?

      “Yet at the same time you ask for the simplest links and information, then when its provided, you brush us all off and PROCLAIM it all to be YOUR newly found info???”

      Can you direct me to an example of that?

      “All I see is a very cunning passive-aggressive woman named Susan. But hey, that's just my point of view and by your accounts, no one listens to my drivel anyway :D”

      PASSIVE aggressive? You may want to check the definition of that one.

      Cunning? All definitions of cunning agree that it references a skill. So thank you for that compliment. The word is often, but not always used though to describe a skill to deceive. Can you please explain what goal you think I am cleverly pursuing here?

      Please own your shit now that you’ve spread it in my direction.

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    9. Ginger I agree that Willy is going to continue pushing the limits of lawful protest. But his plan to "indict" people is harmless because he has no authority to do any such thing.

      Yes, he's going to go right up to the line just like every other activist group does.

      The Vietnam war protesters, went way beyond what Willy is doing. They condoned draft avoidance, civil disobedience, etc.

      Any activist group that gets big enough to flex some muscle is going to push the limits. Some of them will cross the line and they will be dealt with. That is how we bring about change in this country.

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    10. Pie Man Zombie HunterFebruary 19, 2013 at 1:44 PM

      @susan I think people do not trust you because of that e-mail to Spawn..... you made it look like we are Criminal hurting his con business and Billy has the right to sue us ......

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    11. Pie Man Zombie HunterFebruary 19, 2013 at 1:53 PM

      plus he is a con man ....not a protesters

      Confidence tricks exploit typical human characteristics such as greed, dishonesty, vanity, opportunism, lust, compassion, credulity, irresponsibility, desperation and naïvety. As such, there is no consistent profile of a confidence trick victim; the common factor is simply that the victim relies on the good faith of the con artist. Victims of investment scams tend to show an incautious level of greed and gullibility, and many con artists target the elderly, but even alert and educated people may be taken in by other forms of confidence trick.[2]

      Accomplices, also known as shills, help manipulate the mark into accepting the perpetrator's plan. In a traditional confidence trick, the mark is led to believe that he will be able to win money or some other prize by doing some task. The accomplices may pretend to be strangers who have benefited from performing the task in the past.

      A greedy or dishonest victim may attempt to out-cheat thmanipulated into losing from the beginning.

      e perpetrator, eventually realizing that he or she had been


      What I think what yappy is saying is she think you are a shills, or I call them Ballyhoo because that is carnie lingo.....Just saying she has a point

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    12. LMAO I own all my shit Susan ..

      Can you please explain what goal you think I am cleverly pursuing here?

      DO YOU REALLY want me to answer that? I'd hate to instill concern in others on the blog?

      I think you're a very UNSKILLED legal assistant gathering information for Bill. You are TOO quick to jump on a new anon practically demanding they use a specific ANON name so YOU can be clear who is whom?

      Yah.. not all of yappys shit and hunches are right but my gut keeps telling me you are not here for the greater good.

      Those on here who differ in opinion generally do NOT toss all types of insults in our direction while stating their own beliefs. You on the other hand cannot help yourself in the least. So geee, you better take some shit of your own and put in the manure pile where I think you hail from.

      SOOO Glad we cleared that up. Thanks for asking, hope that helps.

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    13. No need to look it up Susan...

      an example of passive-aggressive behavior (and there's many different examples)

      is someone who uses hidden insults or is abusive but only meant for their target while attempting to present themselves in a good light to the rest of the world.

      While the rest of the world think they are great people, the abused one knows they've been attacked. Its actually the worst type of personality within the court system, they can smoothly convince a judge they don't even crap out of their ass.

      You may think you are cunningly skilled (thanks for admitting that) but you are not fooling everyone on here, just so you know :D

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    14. @ Susan: "Now that's just silly." So, it's OK for Bill to have an opinion, overthrow the government and incite people but I'm silly for having an opinion???? Wow, double standard much?

      Gingersnap was right in an earlier post, if I'd seen it before responding to your post, I'd have quoted that - violence is implied. And if you think for one minute Bill is not and can not be held responsible for the actions of his followers, go have a talk with Charles Manson.

      Personally, I think if Bill and the Lemmings (especially the foreigners) don't like it here, they should and are welcome to be ex-pats any where else in the world.

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      "Susan HarbisonFebruary 19, 2013 at 12:48 PM
      @NBTDT: "If there is any violence as a result of Bill's "activism", whether intentional or not , Bill ought to be put in the jail."

      Now that's just silly. He is trying to be a voice for change. He is trying to incite them to make their voices heard. As long as he doesn't condone violence or lawlessness, he is not responsible for what his followers do."

      Are you kidding?! I sure hope you are kidding! That is the most asinine thing I have ever read! That's like saying because Osama Bin Laden wasn't on the plain when it hit the towers he shouldn't have been held responsible.

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    16. Pie man Zombie HunterFebruary 19, 2013 at 3:22 PM

      when I told julia, the Pie man should be in jail....she said that was silly too

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    17. @ Susan: "Ginger I agree that Willy is going to continue pushing the limits of lawful protest. But his plan to "indict" people is harmless because he has no authority to do any such thing."

      I think the point you are missing here is that Bill knows he has no authority. We know Bill has no authority. But the people he is "leading" either did take government/civics classes in school or they slept through the class. They certainly don't know Bill doesn't have any authority. In fact, Bill has done everything in his power to help them believe that he and THEY have the authority to do what he is DIRECTING them to do.

      You compare this to draft dodging but that is a very poor example. Draft dodging was rebellion with regard to a specific, identifiable issue. What is Bill railing against? Widespread corruption? Yeah, right. I have yet to see Bill and/or a Lemming present one single legitimate example of corruption. If there is a legit complaint it is buried so far down under the "they done my wrong" stories it will never see the light of day.

      As regards to activism, it should be for the greater good. Draft dodging was meant to end a war. We may disagree or agree with civil disobedience, but at the end of the day we all wanted the war to end. Has Bill considered what the rest of the population thinks about his plan to over throw the government? Indians and bought likes aside, how many people are on Bill's campaign train - 1,000? Out of how many American citizens? It's awfully arrogant of him and his followers to believe that they are acting on behalf of all Americans or for the greater good.

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    18. I guess Susan missed the part in Gingers post about "Paper Terrorism." It's not just filing innocent forms Susan...it's intimidation tactics to get his and all the lemmings way.

      "Paper terrorism involves the use of fraudulent legal documents and filings, as well as the misuse of legitimate documents and filings, in order to intimidate, harass and coerce public officials, law enforcement officers and private citizens"

      Now here is another point, who's going to pay for all of this?

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    19. That's what I was thinking, Ninja? Cha-Ching$!

      And, Susan? Objectivity is a good thing. I think we give credit where credit is due, here in the clubhouse (example: MaryB).
      If you really believe Windsor is not inciting harassment, criminal activity & even violence? Fine, I disagree. I do agree with Yaps, NBTDT, Spawn & Ninja that Windsor incites any & everything he can from his followers. Windsor never seems to want to get his hands dirty doing any real 'work' for LA, whether it be research, responding to emails from followers...but he'll sure jump up & down to post a Facebook status or take credit for saving the world...

      The Charles Manson analogy was perfect for inciting.

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    20. Yes Ninja - excellent point. Who's dime is on the line for their 'silly' behavior?

      Like the mom I rant on about has used up SO MUCH precious court time and resources for her own mental illness and that's what it boils down to, Billy is driven by mental illness.

      What was the news today? About that Newtown shooter? Oh yah, he was greatly inspired by the Norway massacre and wanted to exceed the former goal.

      Even Bin Laden was most likely inspired by the 93 World Trade Center attack. He sure showed them didn't he? Are we to presume our Country is safe now because we take our shoes off at the airport? That would be very silly wouldn't it?

      @ Zombie..Pie man Zombie HunterFebruary 19, 2013 at 3:22 PM
      when I told julia, the Pie man should be in jail....she said that was silly too

      Well Zombie, that's just silly because other people use the word silly, you silly person ~~~ sarcasm included.

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    21. Hi Anon here,

      Two cents.

      Paper terrorism costs money, time and energy so it's not as innocuous as it may sound.

      Bill Windsor is messing with people's minds, weaknesses, passions and lives. Some have been very harmed and felt alone in their attempt to right a wrong. Having someone appearing to go to bat for them is a big relief. When that person who went to bat for them, turns on them, it is their whole victimization times whatever they didn't fix from the first round. People are donating/investing, taking time away from their families and jobs to stand in a group instead of alone which is how they felt before Bill. He knows what he's doing and if it was "silly", he'd be honest about ALL OF IT.

      Windsors impact on people should not be minimized or taken lightly. He knows what he's doing and he's getting off on the followers. He is not protecting anyone. He's actually put many people at risk who were taken by surprise. They may have serious future problems from what he's done. Trust is a huge issue to many who have been victimized and the last thing they need is a CON.

      Thanks for having this place so I am able to say my "peace".

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    22. "Windsors impact on people should not be minimized or taken lightly. He knows what he's doing and he's getting off on the followers."

      This is exactly the source of most of my animosity towards him. He must have destroy his conscience a long time ago because he knows he is preying on the desperate and hopeless and using them for the very little they have left. Its kinda like going to one of those homeless corners by the underpass and stealing a poor hobo's dog. Its just wrong on so many levels.

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  9. Did you catch that? He pulled this citizen grand jury on the very day, April 1st, that Billy has announced he will do his own version on

    Reading everything thus far, knowing what we know about Billy and how he LOVES to ride the coattails of those who paved the road, this idiot can't even come up with his own 'movement'.

    HE STOLE Lawless America concepts from others, put it in a blender and 'birthed' his own pile of crap.

    Talk about a complete failure in life. Is there anything genuine or is he really filled with other people's pies?

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    1. Pie Man Zombie HunterFebruary 19, 2013 at 1:12 PM

      the crime screen tape idea was taken from Occupy Wall St

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    2. Exactly!! & from the group Anonymous! I'm glad you brought that out!

      Can I just address you as Z? My keyboarding skills are pitiful lately!
      You can address me as P~

      ***Waves***
      (remind me later & I'll tell you cute story about my grand & how his Paw gave him a Zombie spotter!! not everyone would see humor in it, but I have sneaky suspicion you would:))

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  10. Btw, when I say he hasn't broken any laws, I am referring to his direct efforts to protest. He probably has broken many laws in the course of mistreating various individuals, accepting donations, etc.

    I'm just saying that his "plan" of activism, his goals, etc. are perfectly legal and I support his right to pursue such activities.

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    1. I agree completely, Susan, and I would add, IMHO, our government is not only broke, it's broken in many ways; therefore, I don't think Windsor's case for judicial reform is completely specious. On the other hand, IMHO, his personal case and history proves he had no dog, or a very little one, in this hunt.

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    2. Susan you need to go watch the movie crimson tide.

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    3. Is Willy in that movie, lol? I just saw it a few months ago. Willy's followers are a little different than military personnel under orders from a superior.

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    4. Sean, you'll have to excuse Susan. She believes herself to be far superior to the rest of us heathens and her self-built pedestal is so high up, we can see her.. ummm nevermind.

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    5. @Yappy: Do you notice any similarity between your anger towards me and the rage Willy directs at anyone that dares to question him?

      I don't see where I have done anything to you. I think your repeated statements regarding what I think of myself, say much more about you than about me.

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    6. Nah... see below Susan. I have a feeling SOME of my hunches in life are pretty dead on. :)

      You haven't done a thing to me but it is a free Country and I'm free to say as I choose on this blog or any others right?

      Some on here rather enjoy the brashness of yappy's personality and some others the humorous side.

      If you're so revolted by this blog why are you here huh? I can see how my comments mean nothing to you whatsoever. If they did, you would ignore me right?

      Enjoy your day.

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    7. And you're mistaken my blog tone on here for 'anger'? No anger, only laughter and sarcasm.

      AND oops, almost forgot.... deep suspicion about who you really are and why you're here. After all, I'm not the only one on here that believes these things about you.

      Thanks for the chit chat, I'll be sure to pass a note to make sure it ends up at the top so you will be able to read it.

      Again, enjoy your day.

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  11. here are the recent stats for the show


    2/17/2013 8:00 PM Someone stole my pie!
    324 51 11

    324 is archived listens, 51 is live listens and
    11 is live callers

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    1. WOOT WOOT... awesome

      hey, wait!

      I bet those listeners are all fake. Someone keeps saying Ginger's entire group of commenters on here - is just her own multiple personality disorders.

      We know you exist, in morph-land at least and yappy is just a Canadian version of a bot.

      Thats...1 + 1 +... a bot = 6000

      Damnit, something isn't adding up as "I believed it to be.....".

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    2. @yappy:

      Thats...1 + 1 +... a bot = 6000

      LOL...brilliant!

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    3. Ok....I'll own at least 3 recorded listens...I couldn't help it! I'm trying to improve my diction & I made Bertrandt listen once, to prove his mom was really on blogtalkradio.
      He's humiliated. Life is GOOD~

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    4. How can I read the chat log? I tried to figure it out for an hour yesterday! Please send a link to Petunia's FB messages! or here! Some of those were pretty funny! We got distracted with the fonts & bold, colors, size of fonts...ADHD kicked in! But that AMPP mom was all over the linking stuff! & Dharma had a few zingers as I recall.

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  12. Gingersnap: Great job of connecting dots. Like yappy, I thought what Bill is doing had a familiar ring but couldn't put my finger on it. It's bothersome that Bill is calling for a "revolution" and overthrow of the government as we know it, but at the same time saying he does not advocate violence. Now it all makes sense - but I'm even more bothered now that his sources of inspiration are evident. Boy, he sure managed to keep that under wraps.

    I really appreciate the link to quatloos. It appears Ashlynn has done some looking at the other side of the stories too. She validates what I found in general and specifically with regard to the TX guardianship issue (the Goings).

    Also, I meant to point out the other night during Talkshoe but forgot: For all his I'm not a lawyer but I'm going to give you law and civics lesson, he missed the boat with the woman in Lousiana, on 2 counts.

    Firstly, work comp issues are different in each state per state insurance board regulation. What works in CA may not work anywhere else.

    Secondly, it appears Bill may not realize that LA is the only state whose courts and statutes are based on civil law (Spanish/French - or Napoleonatic Law). The other 49 states are based on common law (English). Not that he will be successful anywhere (and I certainly hope is not), just seems that if he's planning to include LA in his perfect union he should know how to get there.

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  13. If anyone is keeping a list of his lies, here is evidence of his deceit: "Record Audience for Lawless America Show about filing Criminal Charges against Corrupt Judges and Government Officials" the article goes on to say the show hit Talk Shoe's 250 person limit.

    Willy must be forgetting that in the early spring of 2011, he claimed his first show had several hundred listeners. The next show, he claimed the number doubled. The third show, he claimed it doubled again and he was up to 1300 listeners. Then I contacted Shovio and asked them to confirm, they refused, and he stopped announcing how many listeners he had, lol. There were never more than 5-10 people in the chat on any of those shows.

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  14. yappy thinks SUSAN is a plant from BillyFebruary 19, 2013 at 1:42 PM

    For the new anon above using a hidden IP.... --

    Susan is the only one really obsessed with gathering 'who is whom' to make it very clear possibly for her OWN dubious reason.

    IN MY OPINON ONLY.... Its like she's taking notes for Billy and laying out who says what, where and why.

    In the beginning she was also VERY dismayed to us even using names like yappy, spawn or Ginger wondering WHY we choose to remain anonymous. There's no pleasing this 'woman'.

    I for one think a fish farted because something really stinks about you Susan. What that is? Who knows but you and your behind the scenes team.

    Sluggo, I'd be careful if I were you about your email exchanges with Susan.

    There ya go Susan, yappy puts her opinion where her yapper is. Of course if I'm wrong, and in your world, all of us are always wrong, you'll be certain to correct me of my suspicions proclaiming it to be silly or ridiculous or below normal human intelligence.

    Either way I SAID IT and others should think twice before REALLY putting any anon name to their posts if they truly desire full anonymity.

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  15. @yappy,

    Do you know how I am? I'm using a moniker/alias because I have a very big dog in this hunt--believe it or not.

    I think you're wrong about Susan as I've not read anything here which makes me question her motivation, nor have I read any of her posts here which I find offensive, but I could have missed something and could be wrong. Unfortunately, I guess I'm done here too.

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    1. Pie Man Zombie hunterFebruary 19, 2013 at 2:26 PM

      I am not sure about Susan, but her e-mail to spawn was very weird.....and I do know Sarah Terrill is in here and this is what she did for month until she went on the Attack...... Yappy Jump first at her because she is trying to know who the Anon are.....Yappy Is being over protective to some of the DV mom that are here .... we made be wrong, but she is the only one will not said he is a con artist

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    2. Sluggo, why would you leave? I wasn't attacking you in the least. You are entitled to tell me you believe I'm wrong and I'm cool with that completely.

      If you're a big dog in this mess, then why blindly trust Susan without truly knowing what she's about. That is unless you know exactly who she is? I can respect you disagreeing with me but to leave the blog because of my opinion? I don't understand.

      You would think the bigger picture for you is to gather more information about Billy but I presume your allegiance to Susan is greater than getting Billy and I'm ok with that too. I wish you well, I think you're geat, wish you'd stay and simply agree to disagree.

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    3. Yes Zombie is right. I'm being extra protective of the moms and ANY anons that really need to remain anonymous for obvious reasons.

      For Susan to drone on how Bill is doing nothing wrong, she tries to switch gears and appear she sides with him but she isn't playing the game too well.

      I still could not fathom for a second why Sluggo would leave because he/she is against my opinion. SImply ignore it Sluggo. If you real desire is to get Bill, why leave? No one asked you to, no one wants you to.

      I don't want Susan to leave either. I am a loudmouth at times obviously and can be very brash too and yes, I tossed shit Susan's way because i was interested in seeing what else she had to say. (see Susan, full ownership of all sides of my personality)

      If she ran away, that's not on me. She's a BIG GIRL and big girls can come back and talk or simply say -whatever yappy, shut up b*tch, leave me alone.

      I also cannot see how Sluggo can overlook the tone in many of Susan's postings. She talks down to so many people on here. While yaps has been out of the professional world for quite some time, I've seen Susan's kind far too often.

      Susan is on here spending more time building UP Billy than coming remotely close to the real impact of his incredible cruelty he absolutely has inflicted on others.

      last time I checked con artists who find creative ways to steal other peoples money and do NOT deliver... IS ILLEGAL. Catching them at their game - is so much harder for the law.

      Sorry Sluggo if you feel I've offended you directly, please point it out. My only concern was knowing you do have some big deal in this mix. I would feel guilty not posting my concerns.

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    4. I wrote I have a big dog in this (ie, my argument with Bill Windsor is substantial); I did not write "I am a big dog." IMHO, there is a huge difference between the two statements.

      My allegiance is to the truth, PERIOD. Every tidbit produced thus far as evidence Susan is a "plant" for Windsor is, IMHO, nonsense. Moreover, I think the criticisms toward her are specious. Do I know Susan's real name? No, but I do know she thinks Bill Windsor is a con artist, and that's good enough for me.

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    5. Fair enough Sluggo and yes, I wrote that incorrectly (re: dog), big diff indeed! I am willing to agree to disagree and stay off your path on the blog if you would prefer. I believe you have a tremendous amount to offer.

      Speaking only for myself, I trust when my gut is yelling at me about something that isn't sitting right. More often than not, 'my gut' is correct. When I'm wrong and it's shown to me with definitive proof, I will readily immediately state how wrong I was. At this time, my 'gut' instinct tells me I may not be far off the mark.

      My concern or question to you? If you do not really know who Susan is, how can you blindly trust her so feverishly.

      Would it be too much to think Bill or someone on his support team would come on here to play like this? If it's good enough for you simply because she states that, that concerns me a lot... not for me by any means but for you and your case with Bill, whatever that may be. She also repeatedly supports Bill so it really is very hard to tell which side she supports. That's my perception.

      We all view our world with different coloured glasses so your views could be completely accurate and mine maybe are skewed by my own life experience.

      I am not in any way stating my opinion as fact but for me not to voice my concerns or give any warnings to you, would be quite selfish and I'd prefer no one get hurt from any of it. I don't want anyone in Billy's world to be hurt by this man.

      As my grandmother would say after one of her opinionated discussions -

      "it's called food for thought, so take my casserole away, chomp on it for awhile and if you find a few bones, you're welcome to spit them out." "if you find it the least bit tasty, lets hope it fills you with enough common sense to live life without me".

      In no way was my Grandmothers discussions ever demeaned or discounted my own opinion or belief system. She had quite a different view of life and the world than I and yet somehow it was the discussions where I disagreed with her the most are the ones that stay with me for life. She taught me to think and question everything and everyone because her own life lessons taught her the hard way, people are not always who they appear to be. Take Windsor for example...

      Perceptions determine our reality.

      I LOVE that George Carlin quote for it's how my husband and I have raised our own children from day 1.

      http://alwaysquestionauthority.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/george-carlin-on-teaching-your-children-to-question-everything.jpg

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    6. @ Sluggo: "My allegiance is to the truth, PERIOD", so sayeth we all.

      Truth is, Susan does have a tone of superiority and some posts are condescending. She's arguing for Bill's 1st amendment right ^^^ up there. But that's not the issue that concerns us. This isn't a push button panel, differing opinions are the spice of life. But, holding a different opinion does not make us wrong. Or silly.

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    7. I am mentioned in here BECAUSE??? If & when I post, I post under my own name.Got it WIGGLESWORTH? I am so tired of your delusional conspiracy theories. (for those unaware of our history, Dim likes to call me a pedo supporter and a paid troll because Lori Handrahan told her so).Yes a "paid troll"..Get your CVs in folks I'm hiring! Kim,.you posted somewhere you're not with AMPP .Well you shared their manhating nipplelicking drivel so often I wondered if an original thought existed in that head of yours..Oh and Miss Marple, you know I'm not American, I can tell from Susans spelling alone that she is..So eh, as usual I must marvel at your observational skills..PS Dim here also posted pics of mine and several other advocates CHILDREN on a BS site she set up purely to attack us for exposing her BFF as a dirty little child abusing liar.I became aware of this place 'cos of all the False Accuser freaks I'm writing about talking about it..So Kim - kiss me arse and keep my name out of your silly little hysterical mouth.

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    8. @yappy,

      Somehow you think I'm a rubber stamp for Susan, and I'm not.
      For instance, I wrote Susan the other day about filing a civil RICO action against Windsor, and she dismissed it immediately. I'm not sure she's correct.

      Under the RICO Act, is racketeering only limited to crimes such as bribery, extortion, fraud, and murder?

      No. Racketeering as it is understood under the RICO Act now encompasses such crimes as mail fraud and securities fraud, which puts the RICO statutes squarely in the arena of white-collar crime.

      The law defines "racketeering activity" as any act or threat involving:

      Murder
      Kidnapping
      Gambling
      Arson
      Robbery
      Bribery
      Extortion
      Dealing in obscene matter

      A racketeering activity is also defined as any act that is indictable under any of a number of other areas of the criminal code. Here are a few examples:

      Sports bribery
      Embezzlement from pension and welfare funds
      Transmission of gambling information
      Reproduction of naturalization or citizenship papers
      Obstruction of justice
      The misuse of a passport
      Criminal infringement of a copyright

      [http://www.lorandoslawAlso, if.com/FAQ/RICO.shtml]

      NBTDT, I would ask you refer me to some examples of Susan's condescension. I honestly haven't gotten that impression or feeling, but I could be wrong. My point is, simply, what is your evidence to adduce your conclusion?

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    9. @ Sarah: False accuser freaks? Do tell...do we know them?

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    10. Nbtdt she is talking about those women such as loryn Ryder, Maria melinn, deanna Kloostra, and Lori Handrahan who all have children and have posted photos and video of the children all over the Internet and say they have shown the police all of the evidence yet the men were never charged with a crime. So the deal is either we have faith in the decisions that police make on what is or is not a crime and the man should not be harassed any more for something they are not charged with or the other thought is that there is police corruption and the globalists are all against them. In each case with all of the women they believe that the children are all being concealed in which we all know where they are and they believe the government is funding the judges decisions and much more up to a ultimate new world order agenda 21 deal. Now I am just an observer here but Handrahan being a outspoken news contributor is somehow spewing child sex trafficking to Include her daughter in this and states that the white house is even involved. So you have to take a side either you believe it or not. If you do don't those women label you as a pedophile and a woman basher a d so on. That's it in a nutshell. Here's the deal I have no time to figure it all out but these people are surfing the Internet all day long unemployed storing up crap worse than the Murray show. The all belong to ampp or some other groups who are made up of the same group of women just another name. It is like the little rascals she woman's man bashing club and further more they are against all federal funding from the us health and human services for fathers initiatives and marriages because it puts fathers involved with children but they are all for the VAWA. There you have it all and yes I do follow them them are a political movement.

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    11. @ Sluggo: Really? Why are you so defensive?

      You are right that condescension is "impression or feeling", which is intangible. Then you ask for "evidence" to support my conclusion. Well, it's certainly not important enough to spend any of my time to prove an impression and feeling, so I'll just start and end with this response to an opinion I offered: "Now that's just silly."

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    12. @ Sean: thank you. yeah, we know all about the women you named, except for Handrahan. Somebody else here may know of her but I haven't check into her doings. In fact, I'm so tired of hearing "pedo lover/supporter" out of their mouths, I jumped on some poor girl that was just quoting somebody else.

      But, I was looking for a new reading topic and you gave me one. Thx again.

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    13. let me know when the next blogtalk thing is I will call in. It will be awesome. I could go on for days. Look as I stated before there are people on all sides. Men, Women, Monkeys what monkeys?.... that are for or against some cause or on some extreme thought process that is on the verge of acting out or really blasting away in to the oblivious of schizophrenia and so on. Lori Handrahan go watch some youtube and she has interviews with major news people. It is like watching Alex Jones talking to Piers on CNN about gun rights. Seriously. Every Group has a leader somewhere that is the Jesus of the movement. They could lie to you and tell you something that is completely insane but you'll believe it for some reason. They are great snake charmers and what I call manipulators. You think Bill is upset over hard Drives he sent out if it wasn't for the videos he has on them? He's rich. I have to say once I seen that the Parental rights groups were with him that this guy was nothing more than a Pied Piper snake Charmer. They flocked right to him when the terpening case went on. Furthermore, He was the Messiah for these people. They Dropped the Entire Michigan for Parental rights Movement and went with a larger name. Whom ever Bethany Christian Bethany is a huge supporter. She blasted the world about his Obama Certification which anyone can get by having an organization sign up for the program, you clock your hours and get the cert in the mail because you registered your cause with the plan. He shammed the government again somewhat. I about laughed my pants off when I read that they actually believe that Obama recognized them. Same as the Fox 17 people who they have all mailed who were not covering the DC meetup at all but just wanted information to create a local story in Michigan. They grab a hold of anything. It's all a pipe dream. Here is the topper to a lot of it, None of them do nothing in the form of lobbying or introducing new law with a person from congress. They just protest, call names, Facebook stuff and sit around complaining. They expect change If they acted with some normalcy and used the current government system they can make a change but they are not interested. they want to put them all up for Treason and kill the tyrants using the 2nd amendment. Seriously, they hold signs with peoples heads with nuses around them. And we just now are noticing this because of the governments idea to ban assault weapons. I am sure since the start of the tea party. I am sure we all remember the British and Paul revere the non palin story. LOL but really the tea party got the attention of a possible what I would call revolt from the citizens and now I believe due to Ron Paul and the Revolution it's getting bigger. ok off the soap box. I am sooo hungry I could eat a PIE.

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    14. @NBTDT here are two stories to research. How do you suggest people find protection when they are labeled liars, dismissed, and sent away? I am just curious. I can't find an answer.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSLOv5oYSto

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2s-7VF-txo

      There are better articles on these two stories.
      Joyce Murphy was called a liar and blamed for PAS so the courts didn't investigate the abuse claims properly. After two other friends of their daughter was sexually abused by the father, the truth came out.

      Katie Tagle was called a liar when she told the Judge the father threatened to kill their son. He did.

      People lie, courts don't always do the right thing, but it doesn't mean all woman are bad, malicious or vindictive, if they say they are worried about sexual abuse or abuse in general. Not all claims of abuse have documentation.

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    15. Huh. SO...you think it is illegitimate to ask why you feel the way you do because it is a feeling without a cause, and besides, you're too busy anyway?

      Funny how you don't have time to answer, yet by your moniker you don't have anything better to do, apparently.

      If you can express your opinion without any substantiation whatsoever, then so can I. Let's just call it my "intangible feeling": I feel your question is presumptive and extremely passive-aggressive, and yes, I'll ask you, why are you so offensive?

      It's now clear to me there is nothing else to gain or do here, so good-bye and good luck. SLUGGO HAS LEFT THE CLUBHOUSE.

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    16. Here is something that disturbs me. Kloostra who is all about anti man, she is also anti family. She attends these coalition meetings with community leaders to help poverty and crime but she goes to them to start arguements and try to get camera footage to support her conspiracies on governemtn money and that all of the help is only geared to help abusive fathers and to take children out of the homes and adopt them for federal grant title VI-D money the same money that Michigan never got here is a link http://www.acf.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/cb/adopt_incentive_history.pdf

      so every time I post it the TITLE IV-D conspiracy people they stay quiet because the HHS posts numbers of amounts given tot he states. I could not keep it in any how someone who cares for children like Deanna and the lawless group believe that Child support is extortion and that they will not pay for it. Deanna ran for office and one of her standpoints was if the government wants her to pat child support they should give non custodial parents jobs. Over veterans and minorities. This the kind of stuff that bothers me. She also proclaimed she would have a special county board that would be able to find county officials and put them in jail and bring charges against them. You were right they are not all lemmings. These people are smart. I have figured that I could be a milllionare if I could creat a job placement firm to get them all jobs because they have great posting skills and such great investigative skills. Of course believing that someone is not who they say they are and threatening and lying about saying they turned you over to the FBI, those are just jokes. Because the FBI is not interested in People having debates on Facebook and blogs about postings that are marked public on their facebook profile and their blog. Most of these people join some political party endorsing their cause. ok i am done.

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    17. Ninja, I would agree with cases that are not investigated properly, prosecuted because of some politician like a judge or a prosecutor in a small rinky dink county. But, here is the deal, Theses cases are criminal and the family judges do not deal with investigating abuse. So these women who have been abused are barking up the wrong venue. I suggest police chiefs, Prosecutors, Inspector general, the State AG. You know someone who can take care of it. But you also have to be timely in turning it in. You can't be like Allie there waiting 2 months. You cant take a video and a photo and wait. It is needs to be made immediately so the evidence is untainted, fresh, so you don't appear to be involved yourself. Especially if your in a custody dispute.

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    18. @ sean, thank you for your input, however both cases were not in criminal for whatever reason, (lets say lack of evidence) and both were in CA not small time by any means.

      I think I remember the Tagle case was in Family Court, and all she had were threats. There was nothing criminal about it. Could be the same with the Murphy case, she suspected abuse, but the Family court failed to investigate, and there probably wasn't enough evidence to proceed into criminal court.

      I wanted to be a child advocate once upon a time, but since there are so many different groups, profiting off of every excuse imaginable there is no way to protect the kids in my opinion.

      I would just like to know, how to protect the kids against the games from both sides, the courts, their appointed third parties etc. who make tons of money dragging these cases out for years.

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    19. And I agree, the exploitation is deplorable in cases where it appears more of a vendetta than abuse. That irritates me.

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    20. Jesus H. Christ! Everybody take a midol! Please. Except Sluggo, I don't think it will work on him.

      @ Sluggo: my moniker refers to my idle state when I am here. Trust me, sometimes I am not here because I do have better things to do than argue over nonsensical stuff. No, it was not worth my idle time to prove to you what was plainly obvious. Susan is captain of the obvious ship. And if you are going to get your panties in a wad over something like this, by all means don't let the lap top lid hit your hands your way to logging off......

      Ninja: We've gotten along just fine to this point. You are a smart young lady, I've enjoyed your company and your opinion. But, do not push your baggage or your cause on me. And for God's sake, don't presume or assume anything about my knowledge, thoughts or experience. I guarantee you have not been on this planet long enough to enlighten me on the ways of the world. I have lived long enough to know the answers to your questions and you will not like what I have to say. So let's just leave it here.

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    21. @NBTDT Im sorry, I thought you wanted proof of certain stories, where there were just rumors and nothing to it back up, (I believe that is how you worded it) as you mentioned in another post. We had a discussion the other day, and I remembered these stories today. Again, so excuse me, I thought you were offering open dialogue.

      I wasn't pushing baggage or a cause. But thanks for being so up front about what you think of me.

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    22. slugo, you aren't done here- right?? GAHHH- under the weather from meds, and still trying to catch up.

      Yappy is cool...

      Don't know who Susan is, but I can see some of the points others are making.

      But yeah, back to bed for me...catch you all in a couple of days when I stabilize.

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    23. @Ninja I'm not familiar with the cases you're talking about but the Bedwells/Ryders/Melinns/Handrahans of the world are forcing the courts to demand more evidence. Sometimes genuine cases get lost..You have the False Accusers to thank for that .

      @NBTDT -When you reeeeally have nothing better to do..Here's a site we made about Handrahan..Scary, demented woman and I'm AMAZED you haven't been contacted then accused of being a pedo by her yet..Lord knows everyone else with am Email address has. A journo with the AP is doing a story on her as we speak..This is a woman with a PhD who worked in the UN,&lectured at American University Washington.& she's on Twitter now accusing the NCMEC of being a front for s pedo ring..I kid you not!. Anyway here's the site www.savingmila.com if you're interested.We have her dads permission to publish it and show her identity simply to drown out Loris 9 billion postings but will take it down when Lori removes hers.. billion sites.

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    24. I hope Sluggo doesn't leave over this nonsense. I think he is one of the brightest people here.

      C'mon back Sluggo! I figured out a long time ago that where people are gathered there will always be personality clashes, power struggles, jealousy, competition, etc. and those things lead to what usually amounts to ridiculous drama.

      I play along when I have the time, but others are welcome to thing what they want. Pfffft. Who really cares?

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    25. @ Sarah: Now that you've provided some detail, I think I did read about Handrahan last fall. She got fired from a prof job because of custody issues or personal life or something, right? Now that I'm through learning how to affect a citizen's arrest, I'll take a stroll to refresh my memory

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    26. @ Sarah: thank for your comments to Ninja. You are right and I wish I had sad that. False accusations have been a problem for a long, long time. Unfortunately, the world is colored by those behaviors and the innocent people suffer for it.

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  16. This is a partial post from Lawless NM a few weeks ago. There is another blatant LIE. There are NOT over 3000 people on film. There are only between 500-550.

    Lawless America New Mexico

    February 8.
    "This week Bill Windsor hit DC with videos and statments from victims of the systems in place in our country. They went in from of Congress and more, this is a serious effort, one that has taken Bill across our country with over 3000 people on camera and thousands more asking."

    These are the very lies that keep people looking for truth in the dark. This blog is outing his lies. Please refrain from saying that he is not dangerous. The weak minded only seek out portions of information to make themselves feel better.

    They need to know the truth. This con man who is showing himself to be more of a cult leader feeds off frail, weak minded people for growth and support. The dangerous ones he is aligned with will be the turning point, or the cross the line type people. They ALL follow his lead. Very Manson-esque.

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    1. Speaking of Manson: (and some people's perception that Bully can't be held liable if his lemmings go sideways under his rule...)

      "He was convicted of the murders through the joint-responsibility rule..."
      (Here comes the good part)

      "which makes each member of a conspiracy guilty of crimes his fellow conspirators commit in furtherance of the conspiracy's objective"

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    2. I agree completely, Ninja.

      Federal law defines computer fraud as the use of a computer to create a dishonest misrepresentation of fact as an attempt to induce another to do or refrain from doing something which causes loss.

      [http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/computer_and_internet_fraud]


      In my view, Windsor, by repeatedly asserting his website pages, Internet streaming broadcasts, and public gatherings are popular when in fact no one or few are visiting them is certainly deceptive and therefore illegal.

      INHO, not only is Windsor violating the statues regarding computer fraud, he's also committing wire fraud.

      The essential elements of wire fraud are (1) devising or intending to devise a scheme or trick to defraud another by means of a material misrepresentation, with (2) the intent to defraud through (3) the use interstate or international electronic communications.

      What constitutes a material misrepresentation under the Wire Fraud Act?

      The Supreme Court has defined a material misrepresentation as one capable of influencing or having a "natural tendency" to influence the making of a decision.

      For a matter to be material, a reasonable person would attach importance to its existence or nonexistence in determining his choice of action in the transaction in question, or the maker of the misrepresentation knows or has reason to know that its recipient regards or is likely to regard the matter as important in determining his course of action, although a reasonable would not necessarily regard it as important.

      [http://www.lorandoslaw.com/FAQ/Wire-Fraud.shtml]



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    3. Spot on Sluggo. Here is a little more food for thought.

      Puffing fraud. He frequently puff's his stats and followers IMHO to sell to the T.V. people or other would be investors. He wants them to believe the lie that his movement is much larger and would be a much better investment that it truly is.

      He is defrauding interested parties with the popularity or salability of Lawless, either the movie, reality t.v. book or whatever investor(s) are looking for.

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    4. @Sluggo see excerpt from HireLyrics re Windsor soliciting donations and business using her company. You might call her to see if she has already file RICO against Windsor. I thought I read somewhere that she had.

      "Dear Yahoo Abuse Legal Issues Records Custodian,

      I am preparing to fax the contract proof that three of the people cc'd on the below Cease and Desist Order to William Bill Windsor are clients of mine (Roxanne Grinage) who asked me to protect their case studies publishing rights being infringed upon by Bill Windsor' promotion of his making Lawless America Movie Project.

      The others on the cc distribution can witness to the fact that there were several Cease and Desist Notices about Bill Windsor's name calling and defamation of me personally and his constant threats while using my name and my business associations to solicit illegal donations from the people whose email addresses he scoops up at the social networking sites Facebook and Linkedin.

      We posted prior correspondence and subsequent Notice of Copyright Infringement Lawsuit at my official website: http://www.hirelyrics.org/administrativesolutionsdefamation.html.

      A video was done and has propagated throughout the internet search engines.

      She is also filing charges against Crystal Cox who is working with Windsor.

      http://www.hirelyrics.org/administrativesolutionsdefamation.html#.USP_ChXTljo

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    5. In response to a few things in this section ^^^:

      Ninja, I agree that Windbag is dangerous. He is leading people. Anyone that is leading people, has the potential to harm those followers by leading them astray. Windbag is already doing that and I never said he wasn't. I have repeatedly stated that he has probably crossed the line in some respects and he should be dealt with for that.

      But what started the dispute about Windbag today, was that I said he has not done anything to promote violence. I said I would hate to see him shut down because he MAY at some point, go that route. That's just not consistent with the freedom we have in this country.


      Anon 3:20, a conspirator is as guilty of the crime as the perpetrator, there is no doubt about that. But the discussion of Windbag's liability for his followers actions was not about whether Windbag conspires to commit some crime.

      NBDTD said: If there is any violence as a result of Bill's "activism", whether intentional or not, Bill ought to be put in the jail.

      I put it as mildly as possible when I said that statement was "silly". The very idea that any leader can be held liable for the unilateral acts of his followers is ridiculous. in order to conspire, there must be INTENT. And NBDTD wants to hold Windbag responsible even if he had no intent.

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  17. Pie Man Zombie HunterFebruary 19, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    @yappy I think you are right and I think I know who she is......


    Susan HarbisonFebruary 19, 2013 at 12:48 PM
    @NBTDT: "If there is any violence as a result of Bill's "activism", whether intentional or not , Bill ought to be put in the jail."

    Now that's just silly. He is trying to be a voice for change. He is trying to incite them to make their voices heard. As long as he doesn't condone violence or lawlessness, he is not responsible for what his followers do.

    this is a e-mail to me....

    Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 4:16 PM
    Kim,
    I can't get onto the page. He won't get arrested, silly. He is a good man.

    Cathy


    that is Cathy Sloper aka Julia

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    1. Julia? seriously? Pieman where does Julia live? Do you know? Because I have other info I've obtained and want to match it up.

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    2. Pie Man zombie HunterFebruary 19, 2013 at 3:02 PM

      CT....if her IP is CT it her


      PS I hate being Kim.....my name is Kimberly.....

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    3. Pie Man Zombie hunterFebruary 19, 2013 at 3:10 PM

      Julia is not her real name too

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    4. Stupid comment award goes to ____________

      "As long as he doesn't condone... or lawlessness"

      Hey, what's the name of his Anti-American hate group again? Lawless something or other?

      They are fighting against the current LAWS the WE THE PEOPLE have to abide by. Bypassing the Judicial System and making their own type. That sounds pretty LAWLESS to me.

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    5. Pie Man Zombie HunterFebruary 19, 2013 at 3:37 PM

      or it her best friends, Elizabeth.....tell me what town the IP is and I will tell you who it is!!!!!

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    6. Pie Man Zombie HunterFebruary 19, 2013 at 3:53 PM

      http://divorceinconnecticut.blogspot.com/search/label/LAWLESS%20AMERICA

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    7. Pie Man Zombie hunterFebruary 19, 2013 at 3:57 PM

      http://familycourtinamerica.org/2013/01/04/bill-windsor-lawless-america-pedophile-trafficking-ring-maine-dr-lori-handrahan/

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    8. thank you Zombie. I'm going to make a gmail account.. or see if yappys' still works and we can chat elsewhere

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    9. @ Pieman: I don't think it's a good idea to get into that IP thing, especially just out someone. Besides, Gingersnap is like a vault - I trust that my ID will remain private and I expect all others want the same.

      @ Anon 3:12: Are you the newbie? Whatever, good point.

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    10. I'm not into any IP locations NBTDT.. more like narrowing down my list collected. That's all, general areas is fine, and IP's can be masked far too easily so it's not the best way to obtain accurate info. :)

      And ditto on the vault, Ginger = FORT KNOX

      Oh damn, I just gave away her home address. Sorry

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    11. Pie Man Zombie HunterFebruary 19, 2013 at 4:40 PM

      I do not want the Ip, just the town....but that Ok

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    12. NBTDT? get outta my head!! my exact thoughts! ^^^

      & me too, trust Ginger with my IP/ID. It was honestly earned.

      *Waving* to anon3:12

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    13. @ yappy: what y'all do on your own, privately is not my concern. I just remember what a HUGE thing this turned into on Joey's blog and some related ones.

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    14. NBTDT! uggg YES! what H.A.M. (code for hot assed mess) that whose IP was who & so forth! I know exactly where I am (undisclosed location for safety *snort*) & so do those posters here that need to know. Refer to trust earned verse...same tune. NBTDT, I'd say you & I should chat, but heck fire, we're already thinking same stuff almost simultaneously today:) *waves best wave ever at you*

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    15. I agree NBTDT, I'm merely curious as to the possibilities of who Susan may be. There is zero ulterior motive or intent. Yaps intent will always be stated out front for all to see and like Petunia said, Ginger will not delete our shit. She lets it hang for the rest to see, the good, the bad, the ugly. Its out there.

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    16. @ Petunia: I like H.A.M., can I use it? Too funny...."I know exactly where I am". ***waving back***

      @ yappy: I trust you and your gut, sweetie. Just needed Pie man to slow her roll. Did you see Sean's post ^^^^. He knows some friends of the lightening girls.

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    17. H.A.M. wasn't a P~original... I hereby pass it on!

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    18. AnonymousFebruary 19, 2013 at 3:12 PM
      Stupid comment award goes to ____________
      "As long as he doesn't condone... or lawlessness"
      Hey, what's the name of his Anti-American hate group again? Lawless something or other?
      They are fighting against the current LAWS the WE THE PEOPLE have to abide by. Bypassing the Judicial System and making their own type. That sounds pretty LAWLESS to me.

      All of the above was written by Anon 3:12.

      Susan: You have misunderstood what they are trying to do. Most of them believe the current law has not been followed. They are trying to find a way to tell someone that might care, that the courts are not following the law. They are not fighting against the current laws, they are fighting the complete lack of transparency, that allows people in power to ignore our laws.

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  18. Well, here's the best advertisement anyone can give, "Don't look or listen to ________"
    Duh, my curiosity just went WAAAAAAAY up^, I'll havta check that out!

    Thanks Mr. Windsor! & I was "told" you wanna call me? Really?


    Lawless America New Mexico People need to ignore Joeyisalittlekid blog and move on to important things. These individuals just want attention and that is why they post these things. They want to get people upset, because they are like small children teasing people to get a rise, and negative responses.
    2 hours ago

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    1. I take it those NewMexico Lawless America-ers had a question or two....
      Poor, stupid PieLiar...He simply CANNOT help but give us the attention! And? He shares his inability with his followers!
      Giggle Snorting is way beyond what I did when I spied this little nugget.

      I got a private FB mssge that Bill was trying desperately to call me, Petunia Snodgrass! Now, what could he possibly want to call me about? hmmmmmm.....

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    2. LOL well if he finds you, let us all laugh with you eh?
      *ring *ring... bite me dough boy. *spit and walk away.

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    3. OH NOES NOT THE DREADED BILLY PHONE CALL

      Petunia, tell him to call into the show, you'd be ever so happy to talk with him there!!!!!

      LMFAO

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    4. I decided my fellow Clubhouse buddies were worth a few bucks. I purchased a little phone & some prepaid minutes. When I get it all set up, I'll pass my # out! Just wait for it....

      OR~Windsor's lying, pie eating ass can call us/me on our next blogtalkradio broadcast and we can ALL speak to him at once. That would be much easier & so much more entertaining. And recorded. Tada!

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    5. Wow, I like that idea - invite Bill on the next blog talk.

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  20. Here I am responding to all of Yappy’s posts to me or about me from today. I’ll probably be forced to break it into several posts. And Yappy, it’s long but you left numerous posts to me before I could respond, so it is what it is. I know you want to own your shit so I’m sure you will read it all.:

    Yappy: “We're pretty certain Susan (if that's your real name, or is it Bill something?)…”

    Susan: I originally introduced myself on Slanderfella because I thought it was a companion site to this blog. The first line of the post reads: “*Disclaimer: I never use my real name on the Internet and I always make sure people know I am not using it.” On or about the same day, I posted the following directly to this blog:

    Susan HarbisonFebruary 7, 2013 at 4:22 PM
    Sheesh, I finally figured out how to get my screen name changed on here. I am no longer Angel Shark, I'll be posting under the name of Susan Harbison. That is not my real name. I don't use my real name on the Net. Sorry for the confusion. http://joeyisalittlekid.blogspot.com/2013/02/critical-day-3-of-failure-in-dc-is-over.html

    Yappy: “that if any anon's want to separate themselves and stand out like you love to do, they are GENIUS enough to make that choice of their own free will without any of your superior guidance.”

    Susan: Maybe you don’t speak for everyone Yappy. Because I saw the following posters suggest exactly what I suggested, and they did it none to gently, just last week. And yet no one freaked out and started insisting either of these posters are a mole! Nope, you didn’t come to the rescue of the poor helpless anon’s that were posting that day. Where were you then? Own that shit please.

    AnonymousFebruary 8, 2013 at 9:16 PM
    Here is a thought, why don't all you anons take two seconds and pick some random screenname so that we CAN tell you apart and you CAN share your story in a way that people are able to know where you are coming from. It is really asinine to whine about people not being able to follow you when it is something you can address in a few seconds. Personally, I think it is stupid that at least one of you has rotating names for each situation.
    Here I'll let you guess who is speaking too. Annoying isn't it.

    NothingbettertodotodayFebruary 8, 2013 at 9:18 PM
    Anon 9:16 - good job.

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    1. @ Susan: I prefer Anon's to have some type of unique marker. However, that conversation is taken out of context.

      There were 2, 3, or 4 women from the same 'cause' group jumping on me because I asked them to support their argument with fact when they offered only gossip in a debate. Truth be known, I thought they were all one person - until I called one out for something another one said. The Anon 9:16 was a regular that had my back.

      One Anon posting on a thread is not an issue for me.

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  21. Part 2
    Yappy: “Nothing like welcoming a new person with your not-so-clever veiled insults.”

    Susan: Here is the insulting post you are referring to:
    Susan HarbisonFebruary 19, 2013 at 11:31 AM
    Anon, could you put some kind of signature at the end of all of your posts so that we can tell you apart from all of the other anons? If you do that, we can learn "who you are".

    Susan: There was nothing insulting in my post to the anon, it was a simple, polite suggestion…until someone else, anonymously made a big deal out of it and you followed..rather like a lemming now that I think of it.

    Yappy: “I cannot get past so many of your posts in favor of Billy and I strongly dislike ANYONE who is such scum to hurt innocent souls like he continues to do.”

    Susan: And there it is. You cannot be objective and you will not accept the fact that someone else is objective. That would seem to be your problem rather than mine.

    Yappy: “I suppose though, given its a free Country and all plus your explanation below to his reasons why he's doing what he's doing, you'll continue to give him a free pass for his sick evil side to his personality.”

    Susan: I criticize him where I think it is appropriate to do so. I give him credit, where it is due. Again, it’s called being objective.

    Susan: You pointed out that I said I’d defend Willy’s right to peacefully protest. Absolutely. Stated more simply, while I don’t agree with everything he says, I will fight to the death for his right to say it. If you don’t understand the logic behind that widely held position, you are nowhere near as smart as you claim to be.

    Yappy: “Yeah, Billy is peaceful and if anyone dare shut him down, I have already seen for weeks how Susan will be the first in line.”

    Susan: I’d love to see him shut down and I’d love to see him held accountable for any damage he has inflicted. I hope he is held accountable for anything he does that is illegal. In fact, I’d be willing to protest if he committed a crime and no one would prosecute him. But I would not condone and in fact I’d fight, any unlawful interference with his right to protest.

    Susan: I am looking for your responses to the questions I asked about your original post to me. I thought for sure you would own your shit. I guess not. Instead you made a handful of new baseless allegations as seen above.

    Yappy’s 2:42 pm post: “Susan is the only one really obsessed with gathering 'who is whom' to make it very clear possibly for her OWN dubious reason.

    Susan: Again, please refer to the 2-8-12 posts above, where two others asked the anonys to pick some kind of screen name so they could tell one anon from another. How is asking someone to choose a SCREEN NAME an effort to gather information?

    Yappy’s 2:42 pm post: “IN MY OPINON ONLY.... Its like she's taking notes for Billy and laying out who says what, where and why.”
    Susan: This is based on what? Is this another “gut” thing?

    Yappy’s 2:42 pm post: “In the beginning she was also VERY dismayed to us even using names like yappy, spawn or Ginger wondering WHY we choose to remain anonymous. There's no pleasing this 'woman'.”

    Susan: NOW we are getting to some ironic humor. Please note my reminder above, that *I* do not use my real name. Clearly, your statement of fact above is entirely false. Please own that shit.

    Yappy’s 2:42 pm post: “I for one think a fish farted because something really stinks about you Susan. What that is? Who knows but you and your behind the scenes team.”

    Susan: Now you imagine I have a team. This is SO Windsor. Without any factual basis at all, you have decided I am a mole and in fact there is an entire team, LMAO.

    Yappy’s 2:42 pm post: “Sluggo, I'd be careful if I were you about your email exchanges with Susan.”

    Susan: I don’t know anything about Sluggo, but from his posts on here, I’d say he doesn’t need your condescending advice!

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    1. Ok I'm going to stop reading your shit fit right here!

      "Susan: There was nothing insulting in my post to the anon, it was a simple, polite suggestion…until someone else, anonymously made a big deal out of it and you followed..rather like a lemming now that I think of it."

      Your post was extremely insulting. WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? NBTDT has every right to ask anons to get a screen name if she wants. She has been with Ginger and the clubhouse for years. You could never compare yourself to her. So fuck off!

      If you want to pick a fight about that "big deal" that the anon posted maybe you should rethink it. How do you know that post wasn't from the anon you TOLD to get a screen name or identify them selves in some way?

      Don't worry I'll tell you who that anon was it was ME! If you want to pick a fight I will be more than happy to tell you how the cow ate the cabbage...again.

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  22. Part 3
    Yappy’s 2:42 pm post: “Of course if I'm wrong, and in your world, all of us are always wrong, you'll be certain to correct me of my suspicions proclaiming it to be silly or ridiculous or below normal human intelligence.”

    Susan: I have proven above that what you said about me questioning anyone that uses a screen name, is obviously dead wrong. As is your hissy fit over my suggestion that an anon that seems to want us to know that each of her posts are her, use some kind of identifier in her signature.

    Susan: On the other hand maybe you can present some posts that support the claims you made about me. I thought that was a requirement here…if you make the statement, you should present your evidence?

    Yappy’s 2:42 pm post: “Either way I SAID IT and others should think twice before REALLY putting any anon name to their posts if they truly desire full anonymity.

    Susan: Don’t you think people know that? Are you implying people are too stupid to know about the dangers of the internet? How condescending of you to state the obvious!

    Yappy’s 2:46 pm post: “You haven't done a thing to me but it is a free Country and I'm free to say as I choose on this blog or any others right?”

    Susan: The statement above was in response to the following statement I made to you: “I don't see where I have done anything to you. I think your repeated statements regarding what I think of myself, say much more about you than about me.” I don’t see anything in those two sentences or anything else I’ve written that questions yoru freedom to say whatever you want...do you?


    Yappy’s 2:46 pm post: “If you're so revolted by this blog why are you here huh?”

    Susan: There you go again! Now the voices are telling you that I am revolted by this blog. I asked before and I’ll ask again for you to provide some evidence that I said I don’t like this blog!

    Yappy’s 2:46 pm post: “ I can see how my comments mean nothing to you whatsoever. If they did, you would ignore me right?”

    Susan: You are correct that I couldn’t care less what you think. But I don’t know anyone that is completely uninterested in comments that are made to or about them. Sooo, what’s your point above?

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  23. Part 4
    In Re. Yappy’s 2:49 pm post: “And you're mistaken my blog tone on here for 'anger'? No anger, only laughter and sarcasm.”

    Susan: The statement above appears to be a response to the following statement that I made: “ Do you notice any similarity between your anger towards me and the rage Willy directs at anyone that dares to question him?” I never said a thing about your “blog tone”. I was referring to your tone towards me personally. If the rants you’ve directed at me today are supposed to be done with laughter, you sure did fool me!

    Susan: So rather than recharacterizing the statement I made about how you are acting like Windsor, why don’t you answer the actual question I asked. Do you see how you are doing to me exactly what he does to anyone that questions him?

    Yappy: “AND oops, almost forgot.... deep suspicion about who you really are and why you're here. After all, I'm not the only one on here that believes these things about you.”

    Susan: Am I supposed to care about your “gut” feeling? I certainly do not. You know nothing about me and have done nothing to give me any reason to tell you anything about myself. I’ve explained here repeatedly what my experience with Windbag was. If you don’t believe me, that’s your problem.


    Yappy 2:59: LMAO I own all my shit Susan ..

    Susan: So you say. I’m looking forward to it.

    Susan’s question from an earlier post: Can you please explain what goal you think I am cleverly pursuing here?

    Yappy 2:59: DO YOU REALLY want me to answer that? I'd hate to instill concern in others on the blog?

    Susan: Sure. Fire away. My curiosity is killing me!

    Yappy 2:59: I think you're a very UNSKILLED legal assistant gathering information for Bill. You are TOO quick to jump on a new anon practically demanding they use a specific ANON name so YOU can be clear who is whom?

    Susan: Ok, so you KNEW all I was suggesting was that she put some kind of identifier on her posts. You didn’t think I wanted her real name or even any other screen name from her past right? But somehow, my suggestion that a new anon use some kind of identifier, since she kept TELLING YOU WHO SHE IS anyway because obviously she wants people to follow her, I have been EXPOSED as an evil mole!

    Susan: Let’s revisit what happened here only 11 days ago:

    Posted by Anonymous at 9:16 on 2-8-13
    Here is a thought, why don't all you anons take two seconds and pick some random screenname so that we CAN tell you apart and you CAN share your story in a way that people are able to know where you are coming from. It is really asinine to whine about people not being able to follow you when it is something you can address in a few seconds. Personally, I think it is stupid that at least one of you has rotating names for each situation. Here I'll let you guess who is speaking too. Annoying isn't it.

    NothingbettertodotodayFebruary 8, 2013 at 9:18 PM
    Anon 9:16 - good job.

    Susan: What in the world was wrong with Anon 9:16 and NBTDT. Smh They must be moles!









    Yappy 2:59: Yah.. not all of yappys shit and hunches are right but my gut keeps telling me you are not here for the greater good.

    Yappy 2:59: Those on here who differ in opinion generally do NOT toss all types of insults in our direction while stating their own beliefs. You on the other hand cannot help yourself in the least. So geee, you better take some shit of your own and put in the manure pile where I think you hail from.

    Susan: I’m not completely clear on these insults you refer to. Of course, there are insults in any post where I am responding to someone that has insulted me. Otherwise, I haven’t intended any insults and if you can find something to explain your concern, I’d like you to show it to me.

    Susan at 4:00 pm: Aaaaand, before I can even get on here to answer your previous rants, you are STILL ranting about things you can’t back up. Maybe you need to calm down, go back, and read carefully the events that led to your afternoon of rants.

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    1. @ Susan: I prefer Anon's to have some type of unique marker. However, that conversation is taken out of context.

      There were 2, 3, or 4 women from the same 'cause' group jumping on me because I asked them to support their argument with fact when they offered only gossip in a debate. Truth be known, I thought they were all one person - until I called one out for something another one said. The Anon 9:16 was a regular that had my back.

      One Anon posting on a thread is not an issue for me.

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  24. Part 5
    Yappy at 4:14: Yes Zombie is right. I'm being extra protective of the moms and ANY anons that really need to remain anonymous for obvious reasons.

    Susan: I just don’t know where you were on 2-8-13 when two of YOUR regulars asked the anons to identify themselves in some way. Stop using the angle of protecting an anon as an excuse for your rants. It’s ridiculous.

    Yappy at 4:14: For Susan to drone on how Bill is doing nothing wrong, she tries to switch gears and appear she sides with him but she isn't playing the game too well.

    Susan: Please produce any post where I said Windbag is doing “nothing wrong”. Please produce any post where I switch gears and appear to “side with him”. The free speech issue has nothing to do with Windbag, it has to do with the rights of every American citizen. The fact that you can’t distinguish the two, is disappointing.

    Yappy at 4:14: I don't want Susan to leave either. I am a loudmouth at times obviously and can be very brash too and yes, I tossed shit Susan's way because i was interested in seeing what else she had to say. (see Susan, full ownership of all sides of my personality)

    Susan: I trust you have enjoyed seeing what else I have to say!

    Yappy at 4:14: If she ran away, that's not on me. She's a BIG GIRL and big girls can come back and talk or simply say -whatever yappy, shut up b*tch, leave me alone.

    Susan: The suggestion that I would ever run away from anyone or anything gave me the best laugh I’ve had all day! Thanks!

    Yappy at 4:14: I also cannot see how Sluggo can overlook the tone in many of Susan's postings. She talks down to so many people on here. While yaps has been out of the professional world for quite some time, I've seen Susan's kind far too often.

    Susan: As I stated the other day when someone else mentioned my tone, I’m really not speaking to anyone here in most of my posts. I’m just stating the facts. I do it in a rather stark way, but it has nothing at all to do with talking down to anyone.

    Yappy at 4:14: Susan is on here spending more time building UP Billy than coming remotely close to the real impact of his incredible cruelty he absolutely has inflicted on others.

    Susan: I think if you look around for the posts where I said something good about Windsor, you’d find your statement above is a ridiculous exaggeration. It is the type of reactive statement Windbag makes…one hint that someone is not blindly adopting everything he says and he starts screaming that they are threatening to kill him.

    Yappy at 4:14: last time I checked con artists who find creative ways to steal other peoples money and do NOT deliver... IS ILLEGAL. Catching them at their game - is so much harder for the law.

    Susan: And I think if you check, you will see I have repeatedly acknowledged that he may have crossed the line with his donations, his posting of personal info on the net, etc.

    I probably won’t bother responding to any questions or comments directed to me by others here today. It’s taken me enough time to respond to Yappy, partly because I can’t find any simple way to change text on here. Anyone that would really like a response to something should reprint the question here.

    End of Responses to Yappy

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    1. LMAO

      Uhhhh struck a nerve did I? How BIG is that nerve of yours anyway Susie?

      Hell, I barely read aloud about 5 of your sentences to my husband and my almost 16 yr old daughter hit the nail on the head while eaves dropping....

      and I quote: "she sounds extremely annoying and very afraid of being wrong".

      Susan, I don't know nor care to read through your emotional breakdown of a book above... it is what it is.

      Are you implying some of us are STOOOPID enough to believe for a second Windsor WOULD NOT get someone to be his plant on this blog? HE IS DESPERATE to figure out who we are - just like you. ODD so very ODD.

      I also presume without bothering to waste my precious time with your drivel Susan - you most likely did not out right deny any of my suspicions. People like you generally love to answer questions with question to confuse, attack and destroy the credibility of some who are intelligent enough to STAND UP for their opinions, like it or lump it. Your game on here usually plays out like that. You answer questions with questions...

      For someone who finds yappy's opinions SO beneath her, she SURE took up the rest of her day to ensure she win's this blog fight?

      LMAO ok, I'll put up the white flag and walk away. MY opinion stands about you and YOUR motives. You may think you're hiding your behavior but not to everyone. Something about you stinks to high heavens and there are many who agree. Buh bye

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    2. Some anon posted this a few blogs back (thanks Anon, haven't heard it before). Anyone wanna dance?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdoamCoYTs0

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    3. *Singing*
      "My name is not Susan, so watch what you say" "Don't want to hear about Susan"

      *doing the cabbage patch*

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    4. I think this one is fitting too.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b84eimPNqnM

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    5. http://oi47.tinypic.com/352ewdl.jpg

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    6. @Yappy: LMAO

      yappyFebruary 19, 2013 at 5:46 PM: Uhhhh struck a nerve did I? How BIG is that nerve of yours anyway Susie?

      Susan: Eh, I took the time to answer all of your rants to and about me. What makes you think you hit anything? I enjoyed finding and showing you that you made several provably wrong statements about me. I didn't spend the afternoon writing one rant after another about the same subject, lol, you did.

      yappyFebruary 19, 2013 at 5:46 PM: Hell, I barely read aloud about 5 of your sentences to my husband and my almost 16 yr old daughter hit the nail on the head while eaves dropping....and I quote: "she sounds extremely annoying and very afraid of being wrong".

      Susan: I have no fear at all of being wrong. I am human and sometimes I misunderstand things, no matter how diligent I was in my research. But I have been under the distinct impression that YOU are nearly fanatical about getting the facts right so that you can own your shit. I was certain you would want to know how many of your accusations against me were completely false and how frequently you mischaracterized things that I have said.

      yappyFebruary 19, 2013 at 5:46 PM: Susan, I don't know nor care to read through your emotional breakdown of a book above... it is what it is.

      Susan: This is priceless. YOU put up at least FIVE rants about me, when I'm not even here responding. When I see them and take the trouble to respond, suddenly I'm having a breakdown, LMAO.

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    7. yappyFebruary 19, 2013 at 5:46 PM: Are you implying some of us are STOOOPID enough to believe for a second Windsor WOULD NOT get someone to be his plant on this blog? HE IS DESPERATE to figure out who we are - just like you. ODD so very ODD.

      Susan: When and where did I ever say Windbag wouldn't have any people here? I'm sure he does. But to decide without a shred of evidence that I am one of them, and then refer to "my team", was more than ODD. It was the kind of thing that makes me question a person's grip on reality, their credibility.

      yappyFebruary 19, 2013 at 5:46 PM: I also presume without bothering to waste my precious time with your drivel Susan - you most likely did not out right deny any of my suspicions. People like you generally love to answer questions with question to confuse, attack and destroy the credibility of some who are intelligent enough to STAND UP for their opinions, like it or lump it. Your game on here usually plays out like that. You answer questions with questions...

      Susan: No, I'm not going to dignify your paranoid ramblings with a denial. From what I've read, you believe you know how I think, what my "motive" is, who I might be, etc. I can't compete with the voices in your head and I won't bother trying. I haven't answered questions with questions. I've asked you, to tell me where you got half of the statements you made. And I've asked that because I know you had no basis at all to make those statements. And now, rather than admit that fact, you are playing the, "Oh I don't really want to bother" card. The classic exit strategy of someone that knows how wrong she was and does not want to face it.

      yappyFebruary 19, 2013 at 5:46 PM: For someone who finds yappy's opinions SO beneath her, she SURE took up the rest of her day to ensure she win's this blog fight?

      Susan: It's not about winning. It's about answering your wild unsubstantiated tirade of accusations. It's about trying to show you that you are not being objective or for that matter, rational. You claim to be someone that can handle such things and own the fact that you were wrong...more times than I can count. I guess it's one thing to say it and another to live it. How disappointing.

      yappyFebruary 19, 2013 at 5:46 PM: LMAO ok, I'll put up the white flag and walk away. MY opinion stands about you and YOUR motives.

      Susan: I think we've established I don't care what your opinion is. I do however, take exception to your tendency to mischaracterize the things I say and in some cases, you even made things up completely. Not cool. Yes, it's a convenient time for you to walk away. It's always easier to walk away than to take responsibility.

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    8. Geez way to hijack a blog Susan....take pity on me, I can't read this much tonight. wow- someone needs to chillax

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    9. Susan, I have a question.
      Do you ever just shut the fuck up?!

      No one cares what you think of Yappy!

      Let me repeat what I said before about NBTDT because the same goes for Yappy!

      WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? Yappy has every right to do/say what ever she wants. She has been with Ginger and the clubhouse for years. You could never compare yourself to her or even come close to having the character she has. So fuck off! And I mean that is the snarkiest way possible.

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    10. Sorry Ginger I owe you like $50 today for the swear jar.

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    11. Oh and another thing Susan, didn't we already have a conversation about these dumb ass novels you write?

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    12. I went back to re-read Ginger's original article, links & the comments....
      All jokes & dinking around aside. @Susan? Part 5? + 2 more? Wtf? In my area of Southern BFE? We call that a major pissing match. (I do believe it could be considered cruel & unusual punishment, comparable to water boarding). Damn. Point made. & re-made. You beat a trench ALL the way around your bush on your numerous (& uber lengthy rebuttals).
      I can't speak for Ginger & wouldn't. But for myself? Yaps been here & the previous blog for years... She's sticking around no matter what. & her 'hunches' have panned out so many times, we've lost count. Between Yappy, Ginger, Oceans, OReader & NBTDT? Research skills out the whazoo!
      We really aren't dense, Susan. Despite what you may think. We welcome newbies. Just please, backtrack a bit & read from the beginning to now> maybe you could be objective & see how condescending you may have been.

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    13. HAHA... I dunno Oceans. I came to rescue you. Someone told me to go save Oceans.. and for a second I wanted to reply ... but i don't have a boat! :P lame, I know

      I said a couple of meanie things to Susan earlier today and I guess she couldn't handle my opinion and perception about her not being on this blog for the greater good.

      Who knows. So she went off like a crazy ping pong ball on speed. Sorry about that Oceans. Even sorrier if you bothered to read. Hugs

      I mean who spends all day on the same 1 tiny opinion of a blogger in the middle of internet land. I assume she's working for Billy. booo hooo hooo

      I'm sure she's trying hard to justify why she's right, i'm wrong and finding ways to insult me to the very end. Abusive manipulating people tend to be like that passive or covert. Take your pick.

      You've known me for years, while I have never backed down to attacks or insults, this one is wayyyy too easy to walk away from.

      She answers questions with questions and when that doesn't work she demeans and attempts to find a persons weak or sore spot and keeps at it. She loves inflicting pain in a very veiled way. I've seen a LOT of people like Susan with dysfunctions like this... throughout the court system.

      Sadly I think in Susan's world, yappy is not allowed an opinion - at all. She probably has a lot of ASSumptions about me but that's not the point right?

      These type of endless paragraphs of writing is a tactic. Diversion.

      UMM HOW many times have we come across them hey Oceans? Oh well, life is good!

      How's your day been? Come, mmove to the bottom, come a play. There's still some good stuff out there and we may have been moved back to Aussie by Billy. YAY!!

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  25. Bill Windsor
    WHO IS THE HEAD OF AUSTRALIAN MOTHERS POLITICAL PARTY?

    The Australian Mothers Political Party and the American Mothers Political Party are horrible hate groups. I have been libeled and slandered for exposing some of these women. I need to file criminal and civil charges against this group, so I really need a name and address for Petunia Pig or whoever the owner is. Bill Windsor, www.LawlessAmerica.com

    Please email me at nonodies@att.net

    http://www.lawlessamerica.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1258%3Abill-windsor-has-been-attacked-by-shannon-e-miller-the-american-mothers-political-party-facebook-and-more&catid=133%3Alawless-america-the-movie&Itemid=105

    American Mothers Political Party exposed as a Hate Group
    www.lawlessamerica.com
    Bill Windsor has been attacked by Shannon E. Miller, the American Mothers Political Party, Facebook, and More
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    Janice Levinson Bill Please call me, we need to talk.
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    Ej Perth Petunia has multiple aliases and posted numerous nasty videos about Bill on FB, they are so bad I would be reported for repeating what I saw. Petunia also led charges that Bill published the names & contact information about victims of domestic violence who testified on Lawless, and as a rsult women have been harmed by their ex..she has been asking for women who have been hurt and abused by their ex's to come forward..so far no one has. Not one witness. Not one victim. It never happened. Complete lie. So then AMPP makes another hate video and uses clip art with pictures of women & children who have been beaten and are bloodied & bruised, to be the faces of these pretend victims!
    18 hours ago · Edited · Like · 1

    Dani Jarvis Yes please call call her. You really don't know JACK SHIT Levinson.
    17 hours ago · Like

    Lawless America I just hope law enforcement gives these criminals what they should have coming.
    15 hours ago · Like · 1

    Lawless America Dani Jarvis is obviously one of the scumbags who won't give a real name -- just joined Facebook an hour ago to make this post.
    15 hours ago · Like · 1

    Bill Windsor typo on email -- nobodies@att.net
    15 hours ago · Like

    Melanie Coutts Come to Australia and say that Bill Windsor? Actually, no we will just extradite you hear? Just dont bend over in the prison shower
    14 hours ago · Unlike · 1

    Bill Windsor Say what? That the Australian Mothers Political Party is a hate group. It is. Are you part of it?
    8 hours ago · Like · 1

    Bill Windsor Is Melanie Coutts the same as Melanie Smith? If so, those are the names I am looking for.
    19 minutes ago · Edited · Like

    Albert Fiorini They are destroying the AMPP from the inside.
    11 minutes ago · Like

    Dani Jarvis Get in your Toybota and come over to Australia
    a few seconds ago · Like

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    1. LMAO, What a cluster f***.

      Yeah Billy get in your toybota and go to Australia.

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    2. These pie-tards couldn't find Australia with a Google Map...they haven't found GoogleSearch, so I know they don't know about the map feature....
      "Get in your Toybota & come over to Australia"
      I heart Dani Jarvis!

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  26. Well this is an interesting nugget (as Ms. P would say... Hi Ms. P! *Waves*).....

    Lawless America Rhode Island iF YOU LOOK VERY CLOSE YOU CAN SEE OLIVER'S INITIALS ABOVE MY LICENSE PLATE - WHEN THE RISP MONKEY CAME TO MY HOUSE TO LOOK FOR GUNS HE ALSO QUESTIONED OLIVER'S INITIALS - THEY ARE WAY OFF TRACK IF THEY ARE COMING HERE TO LOOK FOR GUNS AND ASKED STUPID QUESTIONS ABOUT MY SON'S INITIALS ON MY CAR AS IF I AM IN A CULT OF SOME SORT. THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE INVESTIGATING US AS TERRORIST ARE WAY WAY WAY OFF TRACK. I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE NEXT GOVERNOR ELECTIOJN IN RI - I AM MORE THAN LIKLEY GOING TO RUN AND JOIN THE REVOLUTION PARTY ALONG WITH MR. WINDSOR - THE RACE MOST BE THAT OF THE SAME ENERGY AND VENGENCE OF A "CIVIL WAR" IF NOT NOTHING WILL CHANGE HERE. I INVITE ALL NOBODIES WHO WERE TRANSFORMED IN WASHINGTON TO SOMEBODIES TO RUN WITH ME! I HEARD DOUGHERTY AND AVADESIAN ARE RUNNING - WELL IF THAT IS THE CASE I HCAN HANDLE THOSE TWO WTIH MY EYES CLOSE THEY ARE PART OF THE RI FAMILY BUSINESS WHICH MEANS THAT THEY ARE WHERE THEY ARE BECAUSE OF WHO THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY KNOW - I HAVE THEM BEAT ALREADY. THIS STATE
    February 15 at 4:17pm

    When I saw this I thought *yeah they are reading the blog* but then I noticed the date this was posted....

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    1. Comments over this one ^^^, that explain what happened and why this is so interesting are gone now. OK, here's the point as explained to me:

      There are photos posted on FB of a car during a traffic stop in Rhode Island. The photos were taken by a special kind of LE camera/radar thingy, which drew Spawn's attention.

      The photos were taken by someone who attended the LA DC event, she got a speeding ticket on the way. That stop apparently resulted in a visit from a Rhode Island State Partol officer, aka "Monkey", that person's house. She believes the officer was investigating her involvement in LA.

      She lost her son, she's broke and Chase was trying to repo the car during her trip. Damn. There's your sign.

      **Disclaimer: I'm told the comments are still posted. For some reason I can't see them on my PC.

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    2. No, you misunderstood. The stop didn't result in a visit from the RISP. The stop was made in Baltimore.

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    3. Here's your sign? Bill Engval? Make your car payment before you zip outta state on a wild pie chase? ha! Chase! get it? another sign!! I giggle snort to myself so much~

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  27. https://www.facebook.com/carl.swensson.7

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    1. Carl is a techie and from Georgia

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    2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dge1bs9hfY0

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  28. Save us some time? What's his connection to Windsor?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAdqcavZIng

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    1. Never mind. Found it.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dge1bs9hfY0

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    2. Dang, it quiet in here.

      So, since I have nothing better to do, now - I watched some of Carl's 'testimony'. At 12:45 in, he tells about he and bunch of other guys try to execute a citizen's arrest on a Gr. Jury foreman and a Sheriff in a TN court house. They had all their paperwork filled out, i's dotted, t's crossed, but the group commander got arrested. Nope. Didn't see that coming.

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    3. I know, Carl's testimony stood out to me way back when I first saw it. Now I see why, he was giving a preview of where LA was going, just take out birther and add LA..but everything else is the same

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    4. @ Gingersnap: did you listen to the whole thing? I think I started it before but lost interest.

      At about 19:50 he talks about how they all decided to go back to TN and support the Commander during his arraignment. Darren Huff had an AK47 and mouthed off to somebody that apparently notified LE. Carl seems a little indignant that they were stopped before they got to the court house. Cops checked out the guns and their intentions, gave the guns back and sent them on their way.

      But Darren goes back to TN to try the citizen's arrest thing again. This time he got arrested for transporting fire arms over a state line for the purpose of insurrection. Amazing just how far the government will go to make an example of somebody.

      That was it, I couldn't take any more.




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    5. It was very hard to listen to Carl's interview. Stopped at about 7 minutes because my eyes were crossing with his nonsense... I commend you NBTDT! :)

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    6. yeah I got through most of it, just like Bill he has an ego the size of texas and loves to hear himself talk. I bet he had another 3 hours in him easy.

      Just like Bill, they know where the line is in terms of activism and jail, and they want to taunt it as much as possible.

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    7. Try this one, its 5 minutes. Dumb meets dumber, hilarious.

      Carl calls into the Herman Cain radio show. They aren't on the same page. They aren't even in the same book. Don't bother Herman with complicated stuff in the Constitution!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItRWGFmypG8

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    8. Do I hafta? What if I don't wanna? I thought his wife removed his vocal chords via a slightly painful method? (Herman that is...)

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    9. Wait, didn't Herman cheat with a woman named Ginger?

      ahhh connecting the dots (for Billy) :P

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    10. Nah, you don't hafta. I was just bored and trolling. There are a lot of videos on how to make a citizen's arrest. But, I'm all done with that now.

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  29. Just so y'all know...I ain't been outside the US, ever. I like those AMPPs, all of them. I don't think PieLiar is hunting for me, but the original Petunia. She really got to him:) He is having a difficult time grasping there are 2 Petunias.
    After careful thought? I'll still chitchat with FatPieLiar on our next show. I gotta work on my Aussie bs tho.
    He ought be wore out today. He's swung thru the FaceBook jungle on many vines today! From *undisclosed location to * undisclosed location...~insert Tarzan yell here, with mouthful of pie~

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  30. We just received another compliment from the LEMMINGS!!

    I LOVE compliments ahahahah

    re, Bill's nigerian scammer post --- poor dude probably wrote that to himself.

    The only thing we'll turn this into Kerin Kay - is a few funny jokes for the next blog radio show. Thank you




    Bill Windsor Can you imagine the noise we could make with $3.4 million smackers?
    59 minutes ago · 2

    Kerin Kay The Joey idiots will turn this into something! LoL
    59 minutes ago via mobile

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    1. and then there's the slower ones on there that are really trying to convince Billy its a scam. They don't even realize he's trying to be funny? Poor Billy, can't get a giggle to save his life.

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    2. Well, shitfire, I went to town! I missed it! Nigeria was here, too? Did the Bangers bring them? Reckon they're cousins? You gotta watch them foreigners all the time...they are trying to get a piece of the PIE! I cannot keep up! I dunno which team to cheer for! I need an app or some shit...

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    3. seriously! Call me Bill~ I'm lost as an Easter Egg...I can't find the Nigerian post!
      What has happened to me?
      Aha! I know! It's a CORRUPT CONSPIRACY!

      I must log off & document this immediately & file it under my foil lined helmet.

      **waves goodnight**

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    4. @Petunia.. on his own FB

      and QUIT YER FIBBIN about not going to Aussie. You know darn well you went a few weeks ago to pick up my kanga and you also know why I was banned from that Country.


      https://www.facebook.com/billwindsor1

      see 3.4 million offer

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    5. actually Kerin's reply is on the photo part:

      https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10200780567863099&set=o.195697210566617&type=1&theater

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    6. Hush you tacky MOUF~ you are not getting custody of the kanga!

      I'm gonna go look. AGAIN. Fat focker probably deleted it cause he knows I hate that delete shit...here~ hold my beer, I'll be back.

      BTW~ I hooked Brannon up with those Hotties Power Puff Girls! One of them has a new set of tassels & beads just for him....she's practicing her tassel twists right now. Brannon? prepare self. She mentioned some glue for the beard...she's a freak & she wants you BAD~ you're welcome.

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    7. I used your links above & FB says content unavailable.

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    8. Fat Ass has any & all Petunias blocked from his personal FB shitola.... my waving irritated his butthurt~ boohoo.

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    9. There's more than one way to skin a pie....
      Nigerian Smigerian....
      At least we won the Bangledashers over to our side~ PieAss can have the Nigerians~

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    10. lmao really? He blocked you? HAHAHA Omg what is the future President afraid of now? WOW Can you imagine Obama acting like this?

      Bill is insane.

      Poor widdle pie baby... I can hear him now... no you're the fatass, no you are, no you are, someone called me a fat ass online. Have you ever seen that video? It's how I see Billy behaving nightly but a younger version.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDmUtkqjZhY

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    11. I'm blocked too.

      Wasn't Kerin posting here? Or, was it on one of the clubhouse FB pages?

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  31. Pie Man Zombie HunterFebruary 19, 2013 at 9:41 PM

    this is funny, it is the same e-mail that bill is bagging about http://funnyspamiget.blogspot.com/2013/02/infoomoore-libertychambers244yahoofr.html

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    1. Here I thought he wrote that letter to himself ;) haha jk
      What a weird old man.

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  32. Well, our favorite internet terrorist Joey Dauben has caught the White Blue Bird.. also known as the CHAIN BUS. He is no longer an inmate of the Navarro County Jail! Probably about now, he is getting his OFFENDER ORIENTATION HANDBOOK and is contemplating how his first few days, nights, weeks and months will be in THE BIG HOUSE.

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