Friday, February 8, 2013

Bill Windsor is Trapped Like a Rat


After his massive Failure in DC, The Liar in Chief is making his lonely sad trip back to his empty home in Georgia.  Only a hand full of Nobodies even came and they couldn't get the attention of even one Somebody.  Well I take that back, they did finally get someone from the DOJ to look him up and they got to read all about it on this blog, so we thank you and your lemmings for that.

Once Bill walks into his empty, lonely home later on today, the reality of his situation is going to start to set in.  First, he and Lawless are being sued by a guy in Pennsylvania.  Whether or not the suit has merits, Billy has to be feeling like a 1.2 gpa student going in to a big exam, the thought of heading back in to a courtroom for Bill would probably keep him up at night.  It never goes well in there, and now he is thrown back in it.

But thats just the start of his problems.  This is an except from the judgement against him from his old Maid of the Mist lawsuit:

Having considered the character and magnitude of Mr. Windsor’s refusal to pay the Outstanding Sanctions Awards (totaling more than $75,000), the probable
Case 1:09-cv-01543-WSD Document 356 Filed 01/24/13 

Page 3 of 6
AO 72A
(Rev.8/82)

effectiveness of a daily fine in bringing about compliance, and the amount of Mr. Windsor’s financial resources–as evidenced by, among other things, Mr. Windsor’s continued ownership of a seven-figure investment and real estate portfolio–and consequent seriousness of the burden to him, see In re Application to Adjudge Trinity Indus. Inc. in Civil Contempt, 876 F.2d 1485, 1493-94 (11th Cir. 1989), Mr. Windsor is hereby ORDERED to pay a fine of $500 per day into the
Court’s registry, starting on February 1, 2013, and continuing until he has paid the Outstanding Sanctions Awards, together with all interest accrued thereon, to the Plaintiffs.

Every morning when he wakes up, another $500 flies out of his pocket.  My guess is he will ignore this ruling as he has all the others, but the next step for them is to start working towards his incarceration.  He knows his time limited, so I expect him to only ramp up his vitriolic attacks on any and everyone.  Much like Joey before his impending arrest, I expect Bill to try and make some bold and probably criminal moves against the Federal Governemnt as he tries a pre-emptive strike before daddy takes the t-bird away.

215 comments:

  1. BTW, we are now over 40,000 fake followers for Lawless. Thank you lemmings for you generous donations... the money has been spent wisely as we now have a large following on FB in the middle east.

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    1. Facebook sure doesn't monitor these scams very well. Even though they say they will prosecute anyone doing this. How hard is it, to notice someone jumping by thousands in minute blocks?

      On another interesting note, there is a lot of incriminating information on that page for the Pie Man. IE the lemmings who posted he could use their Non-profit's, or when he incited the lemmings to hunt down information on "haters".

      He can keep buying followers, and keep that page going. It will come in handy for some. :-)

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    2. I don't get it. How can he have all those fake followers?

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    3. He buys them. There were several links to sites who sell them on here.

      Facebook says they prosecute people who do that, but they aren't paying attention. He's been reported, maybe he needs to be reported again. Soliciting false facebook followers to sell a lie about the size of his group to the t.v. people is my guess.

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    4. See, there is another bit of evidence of how deceitful he is, and it took me days to find out about it here. I must say that when I saw the numbers on his FB I was extremely impressed. Who knew you could fake that? smh We need a comprehensive ist of all of Bill's transgressions, lol.

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  2. What even funnier is, one reason why the courts made this ruling against him is because he still has almost $2 mill in property.

    It's really hard to claim that you can't pay your fines when you own 2 expensive houses.

    Barbara better file for divorce quick and take her half before the court does!

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    1. The $2 million in property value might be messy. First we saw the Wells Fargo first lien on one or both of the houses. Then, as OReader has been researching, it has a long shandy history but to sum it up it looks like Billy tried to artificially raise the value of those houses in order to sell them.

      I think once they roll up their sleeves and really get into it, after satisfying the lien and finding the real actual market value, there won't be enough pie to go around.

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    2. It can be proven through the title records on the properties IF Windsor pulled money out of the homes, after being sued. My personal belief is that Windsor used the court appeal process as a time biding situation so he could transfer any and all assets pertaining to the homes or any business' into secret holdings. He used the homes as a distraction to his other assets.

      In his talk shoe programs he laughs when describing the properties, and joking that he wishes someone would take them, and that he has been trying to sell them for years. He is taunting this situation because he already has what he wanted out of them hidden nicely.

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    3. @Anon, that would make sense.

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    4. yeah I think you are exactly right. Those $2M in real estate assets anyone can view, which is really probably only worth about $1.2M, have most likely been tapped out (as in 2nd and 3rd liens) and the money they got from that has been laundered through accounts Barbara owns and then spent on the back side.

      He is a career scam artist and he knows how to hide his loot, or at least try.

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    5. I agree with all your conjectures, Ginger, but I doubt a divorce or any hidden money will help Barbara much because she has been complicit in the "family fraud" known as Lawless America. Not only is she listed as the principal of the LLC, she is a fiduciary of the company as she has been depositing the donation checks. This is not a conjecture on my part; I have the physical evidence which will easily prevail in any court of law.

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    6. I'm not trying to let her off the hook, I'm just saying I think the only reason they are still legally married is to try and run all the assets through her name and out the other side. Why in the world she would agree to this I have no idea.

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    7. heysluggo, can you contact me with that evidence?? I have lawyers trying to decide who to go after, him her, ryan, alcatraz or all the above.

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    8. I'm Sorry Ginger, I wasn't implying you were letting Barbara off the the hook--not at all. IMHO, you and the regulars here have been SPOT ON on all things Windsor and I am profoundly grateful to you all.

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    9. @John, all of the above. Co-mingling of funds hooks them all together. There is no clear separation.

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    10. John: windsor.sluggo@gmail.com

      Ginger: did you catch my tiny edit to your Slanderfella background image...what to your reckon?

      http://i48.tinypic.com/28tx1de.png

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    11. lol that looks about right.

      thats they kind of justice he is seeking in his new lawless america

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  3. Heres another nugget... maybe karl can contact Andy and get the scoop...

    http://pennsylvaniacivilrightslawnetwork.com/

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  4. He is really trying to spin the low turnout:

    "MEET ME IN DC. These are the speakers and a few guests who were there until the very end of Meet Me in DC. This is 1/3 to 1/2 of the total number in attendance. We had at least 350, and some say we had as many as 500. There were busloads from several states that came in just for one day and then were back home that evening. We had quite a few cases where folks were there for just one of the days. The turnout definitely exceeded my expectations, and it was GREAT!"

    -there was hundreds maybe thousands, hell maybe even a millon people that showed up, but somehow we could never get a pic of more than 60 in one place.
    The other dead give away about how obvious of a lie this is is how he admits he has no idea how many where there when he made it clear that everyone that showed up had to sign in (you know so he could get their personal info to sell), so he should know exactly how many showed up.

    then we get this:
    Bill Windsor Multiply this photo times 3, and that will show you the total turnout.

    See O, I told you he was going to steal your pic

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    1. Yes, the sign in thing is his epic fail move. He made such a BIG deal about it, so I agree, how could he not know that actual number?

      I really think people are losing interest in his lies. They are catching on and growing tired of the same excuses. Not many people are commenting, or liking his posts. Out of 40,500?

      Ahh right. Now, go back to your little hotel, motel and read more on here, to comment back to the lemmings who don't know why you say what you do. We do, we got you loud and clear.

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  5. Is it true he is barred from filing any lawsuits in GA or in the U.S.?! If this is true, why is always yapping about suing ppl?? Ugh...

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    1. Yes it is true. He says these things to make himself look powerful to the blind lemmings who can't read. You know, he lies so much he believes himself.
      *start Metalica's Holier than thou music in the background
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jvp5z4z2biw

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    2. Yes it is!
      Pretty perfect song eh?

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    3. yeah that would be perfect travelling music on his way home, just keep looping it and singing along. Speaking of that, why doesnt he give his lemmings a dash cam for his jeep. That way they can hear from their messiah at all times?

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    4. DOH, now he will. You know he gets all his great ideas from Ginger Snap and the group. He could call it Mr. Potato Head on the move. or The Stay Puff Marshmallow Man Movement. Ya, that one. Looks more like him than Mr. Potato head.

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    5. Oh you have no idea how badly I want him to get one, hell I might even pitch in some to help him get a dash cam. Can you imagine getting to watch one of his road rage episodes in real time? I can just see it now, him rolling down the window and screaming out "Cease and Desist!!"

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    6. LMAO. Screaming "you cut me off, it's a government conspiracy. Another "hit" I tell you. I will sue you!!" Bahahahahaha

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    7. Master of Puppets would be appropriate too.

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    8. Windsor is not barred from filing all lawsuits. I am pretty sure he is not allow to file anything related to his past suits, and he may have to move for leave to file a new suit on some other topic. In other words, he may have to ask a judge if he can file the suit before he files it.

      If someone defames him he certainly can sue them. Since he has no aptitude for the law, and any court in his country would be biased against him based on his history, he wouldn't win no matter how much merit there was to the case. But he could put the defendant through quite a bit of aggravation and cost before the court can justify dismissal.

      When LA implodes, I fully expect to see him try to sue an individual with deep pockets. He has always wanted to be a lawyer. He believes he is competent to practice law. He is not going to walk away from that field after almost 8 years of experience.

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    9. Unless he gets serious about politics. Maybe he will try to run for some office for real.

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    10. I have to disagree. I don't know where the link is, but it was posted here several times. He can not anything without posting something like 50K and getting permission from the court. Its not just about his prior case. He even wrote about it.

      Here it is in his own words.

      http://www.lawlessamerica.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=416:windsor-banned-from-filing-a-lawsuit-anywhere-in-america&catid=120:news-reports&Itemid=222

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  6. WHINESOR is still posting about falling asleep at the wheel. I think I have seen three postings. Not many people care, that's why I think he keeps posting it.

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  7. It was very mean of Billy not to take photos of those many busloads of people who came for 1 day and returned the very same day. I guess they got no pie either.

    Lemmings, show of hands please? How many believe this new pile of manure?

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    1. HA!! And not ONE lemming who was there has posted any pictures either to back up his bloated turnout. Maybe that's why they aren't commenting on his crap. They know he's lying. They were there.

      In the one video where whoever was roaming the halls filming, this was the BIG day. The halls were empty. A few stragglers roaming around. SO LAME. No one is buying this load of crap, and he keeps changing the numbers. On film he says one thing, then he posts something else, and now it was possibly 500? PSHHHHH

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  8. Someone doesn't want to get home to face the music? Stalling to get home? Perhaps those clothes will be on the lawn, burnt to a crisp.

    Didn't Susan (on here) write how the Sheriff's office were at his homes seizing property while he was dancing the night away in DC?


    Bill Windsorposted toLawless America
    about an hour ago
    AMERICA NEEDS A U-TURN. WE MUST SAVE AMERICA AND U-TURN IT BACK TO WHAT IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE.

    .... It's only a nine-hour drive to our home, but I plan to do it in two days because I am so exhausted.

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  9. I doubt Ms. Windsor is home. Her home maybe, but not "their" home. He has nothing to go home to. He isn't wearing his wedding ring, and it's shown in numerous pictures like he was posing to show off his bare finger.

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  10. I like how he always goes on and on about his adrenaline and then crashes when its all over. That happens to everyone Bill, the only difference is most people are really on an adrenaline rush, you were just on a sugar high.

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  11. yeah and I still think back to the "you can go home and lie to your spouses if you need too" comment of his. What married person would ever say that on camera?

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  12. Billy called in a lemming for help (note hundreds)

    Kenneth Paschalposted toLawless America
    10 minutes ago
    Bill, it was great seeing you again and the hundreds of warriors in DC.



    Try a little harder Billy.

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  13. I agree Ginger. You don't make a comment like that, even jokingly. He says a lot of strange things but no one catches on. Well, none of the lemmings that is.

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  14. LOL, Billy must be paying less for his latest followers, they don't even have pictures now

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    1. LOL well, he was in a hurry. Last Sunday talk shoe, he said they needed to reach 50K. He must have some t.v. people checking out his puffed up page.

      Who wants to bet he hits the 50K by the Sunday's show? Gotta make the lemmings think the rise was from DC. You know, give them a little more false hope.

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  15. Billy started a new page in December. For some reason he hid this in a comment on a Lemming post last night/early this morning.

    Bill Windsor Join the Revolutionary Party! https://www.facebook.com/TheRevolutionaryParty?ref=ts&fref=ts

    11 hours ago ·

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    1. Nope, it's just another weak attempt at publicity. Just another gathering place for the lemmings and nuts.

      Oh, but be sure and send him a penny to join up LMAO

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    2. NothingbettertodotodayFebruary 8, 2013 at 1:01 PM

      Nobody is watching that FB page for Bill. One our club house members apparently found the page in January and posted a couple videos.

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    3. LOL I saw that. Why is he sending people to the other pages, when he can't even answer people on the main LA page?

      Last week or the week before he said he was shutting the main page down, and posted the link to the page he said would be the main one.

      I think you are both right, in that the other pages are falling short of "likes" and "followers" and he's trying to pump them up. SMH He's failing.

      The Joeyisalittlekid FB pages are doing better than his, so he must be jealous.

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    4. I have suspected from day one that Windsor had political aspirations. When the earliest group of fools wanted to start a group dedicated to JUDICIAL reform, we were all adamant that we didn't want ANY political activity in the group.

      As we began to discuss a name for the group, the only one with any idea was Windsor and he suggested Government Reform and Integrity Plan. The name itself is not very good but we liked the idea of GRIP, and since no one else had any ideas at all, lol, we agreed to the name. He then posted an article, claiming the group had agreed to the name Government Reform and Integrity PLATFORM. To me, a platform signals a political interest. I'd never have voted for it with that word in it. But he obviously knew that, so he lied about what he was using for the last word. It was becoming clear that Windsor could not be trusted, and that his goals were very different than that of the others there at the time.

      Quite a few capable people offered to get together and help him establish and run Lawless America. We thought it was critical to set up a strong foundation, with some checks and balances, before establishing the group itself. We wanted to agree on our mission, the structure and the operating plan for the group. And frankly, just because Windsor had started a web site that brought some like minded people together, did not necessarily we wanted him as a leader.

      Windsor was working his ass off and getting nowhere fast, but it was clear there would be no co-founders or other type of administrators for the group. The group was to be a dictatorship, plain and simple. There would be one almighty leader, that would be Windsor, appointed by Windsor, and everyone else would be a voiceless minion. He had shown by then that he had a serious dearth of leadership skills and and no thinking person would have been willing to blindly follow him. But it was his site so It was his way or the highway and everyone chose the highway.

      He never did gain a following of any kind via his site. Fifteen months after starting the site, he started his movie road trip. The followers he has now have latched on to him because he is promising to bring their particular cases to light. Such people would be much more likely to accept his dictatorship. It's his movie and of course he is going to handle it any way he wants. They believe HE is doing them a huge favor and if he asks for a little support they are happy to provide that.

      But I don't know that any of those folks have signed on to become minions in an activist/political group. Are any of them interested in working to make things better for OTHER PEOPLE? Are they interested in working on any project that does not directly involve their personal stories? I guess we'll see.

      Returning to my original point, lol, I am not at all surprised to see Windsor hopes to start his very own political party. smh I wonder if thinks the country should be run by a dictator?

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    5. He already ran for some kind of office, but he forgot he put himself on the ballot. He thought it was funny.

      My understanding is that he used several well known groups and people to solicit, and brought them and their numbers into the LA movement.

      Had anyone really read his proposals for reform, I doubt anyone would have joined in. They are self serving.

      Windsor will not be able to run for office due to his vexatious history. Had he not have sued some very powerful people, and had not posted he had the constitution voided in a "landmark decision", or said the Government put a hit out on him, he would have had a slim chance to run for something. Not now, and not ever. You have to have an impeccable history, with some kind of legal knowledge. Being a grandpa doesn't count, nor does filing frivolous lawsuits without merit.

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    6. He has stated that he wants the Revolutionary Party to be the controlling party of the United States, and he is the head of the party so yeah, he wants to be dictator.

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    7. NothingbettertodotodayFebruary 8, 2013 at 9:53 PM

      @ Susan: thanks for filling in the gaps on GRIP. I read something on GRIP about why the separation for Bill but never did find how GRIP was started.

      "Are any of them interested in working to make things better for OTHER PEOPLE?"

      That question is what fascinates me about the folks following Bill, the answer seems to be 'no'. It's all about individual or 'rights' groups interests and the interests are polarized and irreconcilable. Then you have the interests that are not supportable. The entire existence of this group or any other 'led' by Bill will be spent circling the drain.

      Bill ran for 2 positions in GA.

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  16. Oh Yappy, have you seen the latest from CONnie?

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  17. Just to let everyone who has donated to Windsor and who has believed his poor-mouthed, "can't rub to nickels together," here is ONE of his homes in Marietta, Georgia (just North of Atlanta).

    http://www.stone-walk.com/3924-lower-roswell-road-exterior.html

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    1. Corrections:

      Just to let everyone know who has donated...

      can't rub two nickels...

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    2. Nice place, I wonder if this was a spec home?

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    3. So I suppose you all think he needs to pay for everything himself because he has a nice house! The thought process of some people just amazes me!!! SMH

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    4. Yes Kerin, we expect him to pay his outstanding debts including judgements levied against him. And I know as a simple lemming this will amaze you, but true, just because you lose in court doesn't mean you go void the constitution.

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    5. NothingbettertodotodayFebruary 8, 2013 at 3:16 PM

      @ Clueless party of 1 aka Kerin: you've missed a whole bunch of points. The main point being that Bill says he doesn't have 2 nickels to rub together.

      The donations given to Bill for LA have accomplished what?

      Wait, I know the answer - y'all have paid for Bill to travel around the country to eat pie, film people that aren't telling the whole truth and the purchase of FB followers living in other countries that don't care squat about US corruption.

      It is a nice house. But I wouldn't live there. No place for the horses to graze.

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    6. It is becoming more and more apparent that none of you have experienced the CORRUPT system! I used to be like you until it happened to me! I was one of those people that believed in our system and that no way is it CORRUPT!!! If it can happen to me it CAN and will happen to anyone!!! Get off your highhorses!!!!!

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    7. Kerin!!!!! you clearly lost on merit. Your arguments are not valid!!!!! You support a con man who is corrupt!!!!! You sound like an angry woman with a vendetta!!!!! STFU and go support the Pie Liar!!!!! Send your C notes, he needs to pay a lot of people!!!!

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    8. *hands Kerin my highhorse*

      It's becoming more apparent you pick and chose what you read. I USED TO WORK in that corrupt system Kerin. We all have different perceptions to what degree the corruption is occurring.

      I suppose its just fine by you for Billy to have SO MUCH money (millions) YET TAKE $20 from people who could not even afford to buy themselves breakfast?

      It's no wonder you are as broken as you are. I cannot fathom anyone being ok with Billy using people who truly are broke in every literal sense of the word. Gail wanted to go to DC so bad, she was willing to stay in a homeless shelter BUT she still gives billy money.

      Kerin, what does Billy DO with this money? He refuses to provide receipts or anything. You all accept his word as gospel and that's exactly why he's such a GOOD con artist.

      They prey on the weakest because they weakest rarely can reason out things in a logical manner.

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    9. no he sound like a MRA, A Man that hit his wife or hurt his child and he think the court should said “Boy will be Boys “and that why they are corrupt

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    10. Nope Anon 3:38. I still think it's Julia. Sounds like her lame arguments. She is pissed cause she got slapped by the Judge for the way she went about accusing her ex. No wonder she defends Billy.

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    11. You all are way off base about what I'm saying and who I am!!!

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    12. NothingbettertodotodayFebruary 8, 2013 at 4:21 PM

      They might be off base about who you are, but nobody here is off base about what you are saying.

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    13. Kerin, thanks for playing, but you lost. Billy boy exploits people he knows are suffering, and takes their money knowing that he has no hope of making anything better for any of them.

      There are things you are choosing to gloss over or refuse to acknowledge about Bill. That is your choice. The rest of us aren't ignoring the facts that are available(note I said FACTS, not feelings).

      Actually, many people lose in court, and I would bet you not one of them thinks it was right.

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    14. https://www.facebook.com/Kerin.Kay email KerinDoxies@aol.com NOT JULIA

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    15. YAY ... now you can all stalk me!!! Have fun!!!

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    16. I don't want to stalk you, I just want you to learn to think critically

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    17. That Bill and his sick follower game, How Many E-mail to do you think I got because of that sick monster ways telling me to kill myself....... saw the F4J post on your wall you are a sick MRA but a Female......No wonder why you do not care that a MAN that Bill supports has a long record of raping children..... wow you are sick, I am done....let the clubhouse have fun with you now

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    18. I am one of the most un-sick people on this planet ... I can assure you of that! I also have no clue who you are referring to about raping children and if I know of someone raping anybody ...especially children you can bet that I have nothing to do with them!

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    19. https://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=560423653971491&set=a.131465436867317.24427.128939643786563&type=1&theater

      this is the man that did all the DVD work for Bill Windsor.......

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    20. google him and you can even see his Lawless America youtube saying how unfair it is to pay child support, but he forget to tell you he can not see his child because he has a long history are child abuse ....

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    21. and this why he can not see or talk about his grandchildren ....... Case No. 2002CV54172 WILLIAM M. WINDSOR VS. BRIAN L. ROBERTS Filed on 06/06/2002. Case Type: FAMILY VIOLENCE

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    22. Ahhh, now there is the shoe we were waiting to drop. Bill Windsor the family violence man

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    23. Ya, Don't get all excited about that Ginger. I will have to investigate that further. Or maybe NBTDT will remember the date of Walters funeral.

      I don't think the granddaughter was even born in 02. I don't even think his daughters husband is named Brian. That may have been a nephew or something. This needs further investigating.

      There isn't anything more than that DV case number on line. No explanations or anything, and it was Pie Daddy looking to restrain Brian. Plus it was denied.

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    24. it was posted here in the clubhouse awhile back from GA. Gov page And it was dismissed...

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    25. You have got to be kidding Kerin...why would anyone want to stalk you. That is a Bill sort of thing.

      Might I add, it is never a good idea to post your personal information anywhere? Especially because this is a public blog, and anyone can read here. No one here cares about you Kerin, and you are more than welcome to have any opinion you want and talk about it.

      It also means, we can think you are not all there, but hey, that is your right to confirm it for us.

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    26. Kerin the comment about someone raping children has to do with one of the people Bill has working for him, and is someone who is supposedly a convicted child molester.

      Since I know you won't bother following any facts I may point you at, I'm not going to bother to track that down for you.

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    27. Kerin, I am a long time judicial activist because I have firsthand knowledge of how perverted the system is. It doesn't bother me to see anyone ignore a court order because I know how many of those orders are unjust.

      I'm one of many people that attempted to work with Windsor until he banned me because I questioned some of his plans. NO ONE questions Windsor's edicts and retains access to his site.

      I can see that Windsor offers some hope to people that really have no hope. Of course they are going to latch on to him. I suppose it's the same reason people that have exhausted all scientific medical remedies turn to faith healers.

      Just keep a few things in mind:

      Windsor's background is in marketing and he is very good at it. He is free to lie and mislead people on his site without legal consequence. He knows how to get attention, how to package what he's selling, how to trick people into thinking he is much bigger than he really is.

      He actually registered as a candidate for the house of representatives, which anyone over 25 can do, but the average citizen doesn't know that. Now his credentials include the statement that he was a candidate for the house of representatives. Next week he'll get himself ordained via the net and he'll add "Ordained Minister" to his credentials. I can't believe he hasn't done it yet. The list of his misleading claims goes on and on.

      His rather broad definition of "honesty" is only one problem. I could talk about his lack of leadership skills all day, lol, but I won't. There are bits and pieces of those stories all over this site.

      Is this someone you want to FOLLOW? And you must FOLLOW him, because no one walks WITH him. He is the almighty and the rest of you are his minions.

      If you can overlook all of these things and you can believe that in spite of his past there will be someone in power that listens to him, I wish you the best of luck with your endeavor.

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    28. NothingbettertodotodayFebruary 8, 2013 at 10:11 PM

      Re: the law suit, the only info I've found is that it was dismissed. The funeral was in 2008. Last name of the granddaughter there is Harrell. I think. It wasn't Roberts.

      I'll look around again too.

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    29. @NBTT Ya, I just can't make the connection either, as the Anon thought. Not enough info on the internet to make that assumption, and that child is too young in the pictures to have been born in 02

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  18. http://pennsylvaniacivilrightslawnetwork.com/2013/02/04/pcrln-statement-on-lawless-america-projectbailey-case-updateostrowski-case-update/

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  19. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H2MIPBGwE0

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    1. Wow the comments were great to read. He is no victim, he is a predator

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    2. i am going to ask her to screen the police reports, so groups on the PM side can shared them

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    3. Poor pastor didnt realize that his mail order bride was a mail order bride. He must of gotten a referral from Teri Stoddard

      Love the comments

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    4. sorry my comment post below

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    5. Yep I see someone has already mentioned Stoddard, wasn't it NBTDT who defended this mail order bride stuff. LOL. Nice job NBTDT!

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    6. NothingbettertodotodayFebruary 8, 2013 at 5:18 PM

      Anon 4:10 - poor reading comprehension skills, eh? There may be some adult reading classes in your area that will help you keep up.

      I never defended mail order bride stuff, nor did I bring up the subject of Teri Stoddard.

      After some more thought, maybe it's not your comprehension skills that are at issue here. Maybe this just a case of selective reading. Or, selective understanding. You and several Anon's reject and attack any person, thought or situation that threatens your perception that you and your cause are right and everybody not on your cause train is just wrong.

      And, let's not forget: that entire discussion was based completely on gossip and irrelevant data - totally without viable support and argument from your side.

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    7. NBTDT said it to me, I am not a Fan of Teri and feel Mail order bride if a form of Trafficking women , but She has the right to not to agree with me...

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    8. Can AMPP please post the screen shots of Teri talking about her son having sex with a 5 year old, when he was 14....

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    9. WTF? Anon at 6:34 why would anyone want that posted here? I don't think anyone is talking about Teri Stoddard, and I know for sure I don't give a rat's ass about her.

      And for sure NO ONE HERE thinks mail order brides are a good thing. Nor do we agree with the freaky LA lemming that bitches about having been scammed by one. And NBTDT can speak for herself, but you are out of your f'n mind if you think she supports it.

      Get over yourself. And don't feel like you need to be here to do it.

      Ginger, I don't usually go off like this, and really showed restraint- but would like to apologize if I crossed a line.

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    10. ahhh go for it, this is real freedom of speech.

      And yeah I'm tired of all the team playing. That being "if you don't hate so and so you and I are enemies". In my opinion everyone is on their own team and speak for themselves.

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    11. Thanks Ginger! I am already calmed down, but for anyone I offended...LOL, never mind. I meant it all.

      I am tired of this be on my side or else mentality. For those who may be confused, we don't roll that way. We are independent people who research and form our own opinions.

      The reason our opinions may seem alike is because they make sense to any normal critical thinking person.

      okay, stepping off to sit in the corner with a drink now...

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    12. Ocean, NBTDT ask for proof before from me and my Mother had a mini stroke and I was offline for 10 days and forgot all about the Teri, Mail order bride here in the clubhouse ..... I just do not want people Attacking NBTDT, for something I Said.... and I do feel if she saw the proof then people would understand better.... She did said that woman that sued the Mail Order bride company owner for the Husband beating her should have known better.....Which is why she is getting attack now ....sorry I just think it one of those if people can talk without the name calling then everyone can understand were everyone is coming from

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    13. I still don't understand what you are talking about Anon.

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    14. NothingbettertodotodayFebruary 8, 2013 at 7:21 PM

      Anon 6:32 - For the record, so we don't have to discuss this again: we aren't talking about the sex slave business. I disagree that mail order brides are "trafficking" because the 'brides' are participating at their own free will. I am not sympathetic because the women are adults and should be held accountable for their own decisions.

      Nothing irritates me more than women that make decisions that will cause them to be dependent on a man for survival, then cry foul when the man turns out to be a jerk. And don't bother to post screen shots on Teri for my benefit. You can not persuade me to take up or agree with your cause.

      I DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOUR PROBLEM, YOUR HATRED OF FATHERS OR YOUR CAUSE!

      CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW???

      We are here to laugh at Bill, we are not here to support you. Now, can you please join us in talking about Bill without trashing fathers, attacking people that don't agree with you and crying about your case/cause every 2 seconds?

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    15. sorry Oceans I am the worst at blogging.....about two week ago NBTDT and I were talking about Teri Stoddard and she ask me for proof..... I know the other Anon read that thread and is trying to back me up....I just feel that if we finish it and I show her proof then there would be a better understanding.....maybe NBTDT would not agree with me but at least a better understanding.....I just do not want people to think NBTDT is a MRA or something bad for Disagreeing with me

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    16. NothingbettertodotodayFebruary 8, 2013 at 7:34 PM

      @ Oceans: thank you for your comments. I was having a temper tantrum all by myself so posted late. Also for the record, I disagree with the mail order bride thing for immigration reasons.

      @ Anon 7:08 - I didn't ask you to prove anything. I was trying to tell you in a polite way that you had not supported your argument. But, maybe my last post will help YOU UNDERSTAND better.

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    17. Anon, you need to let it go. Read the above post from NBTDT

      I agree with her. If a woman thinks that using a mail order service to find a husband is safe, or the way to go, she is not thinking clearly. But she is choosing to do it. It's like internet dating...you have no clue who that person will turn out to be. No one deserves to be beaten. But when you hook up with strangers you don't know and something happens, it's not a surprise. It is foreseeable.

      Like I said, Terri Stoddard and these Mothers and Fathers rights groups are not something I care about. Neither is right, and both are right.

      I won't support either side.

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    18. WontBotherWithANameSinceYouThinkWeAreTheSameFebruary 8, 2013 at 7:39 PM

      Where is their trashing of fathers?? I must have missed that. It' so useless to even say anything about "a cause" regarding mothers/women since NBDTD construes it as hatred towards fathers. You get irritated from women making decisions that will cause them to be dependent on men for survival? Which rock have you been living under? That's how it works. You don't want us talking about nothing but BILL but yet he is intrinsically connected to many of the people you have just disenfranchised. More than once this has happened but you carry on and run this show about bill. Once he's jailed who's next on the list? Teri?
      Out of everyone here you've truly shown what you think about women in general. Hear you LOUD AND CLEAR pal. Thank you for clearing it up that this is a place to laugh about Bill only. He's ALL yours.

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    19. Thanks for that NBTDT-

      Anon, valid point here, mail order brides are an immigration scam too. It's the only reason I can see for marrying someone you don't know in another country.

      There is no upside, and it should be illegal. Since it isn't yet, women who participate should be checked for sanity and intelligence.

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    20. NothingbettertodotodayFebruary 8, 2013 at 7:43 PM

      Anon 7:23: It's really a good thing that we can't tell the Anon's apart. This way you can continue to post without everybody knowing that are an idiot. I think it's pretty clear to everybody but you and the other AMPP Anon's that I don't give a rats a** what any of you think of me. And, just to show you how much I don't care - I haven't taken the time to figure out what MRA even stands for, so I care less about their opinion than I do yours.

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    21. Won't bother-

      Okay, this is not a site about causes. I am a woman, and I have been abused, and I did survive it. I took care of myself and my child. If I understand your statement

      ' You get irritated from women making decisions that will cause them to be dependent on men for survival? Which rock have you been living under? That's how it works.'

      WTF? that's not how it works. Women are not dependent on men unless they choose to be.

      I won't bother to explain what my child and I had to go through. There are plenty of horror stories out there.

      No one is being disenfranchised here. Bill shit on people on his own, no one has missed that point. He may even hate women, and he is definitely an ass.

      That doesn't mean everyone here has to agree about mothers or fathers rights. Just because someone doesn't jump on your bandwagon does not mean they are on someone elses. For gosh sakes, get over yourself. It's not your blog or mine.

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    22. NothingbettertodotodayFebruary 8, 2013 at 7:51 PM

      hahahahahahaha - made my point. Anon thinks I'm a man only because I disagree and don't support her cause. I have said and done NOTHING to indicate my gender.

      ROFLMAO!

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    23. NothingbettertodotodayFebruary 8, 2013 at 7:57 PM

      @ Oceans: DITTO!!!

      And, yep - Bill is an equal opportunity sh*tter on-er, he is all about him.

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    24. You didn't answer the first question, where is the father bashing?
      ROFLMAO!you think your point was made? the world is run by men who make more mone than women who are oppressed and in order to survive and oppressed women are dependent on men. Good for those that took care of everything yourself and never faced homelesssess or death if you left. ****applause**** You don't have to indicate your gender I know exactly who you are. You're no better than Bill thinking everyone is ampp that says anything you disagree with. Which is women being dependent on men. <<<stupid. I've seen you more than once verbally be abusive to females and them apples don't fall far.

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    25. and that IS how the PATRIARCHY works!

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    26. From now on make sure you put a trigger alert for nbtshsls when you post something other than what shim wants to talk about. You remind me of that dude the other day on Slanderfella. What was his name?

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    27. Okay Anon, you are an idiot. You are the one who knows nothing about who anyone here is, or what their personal experience is/was. I chose homelessness when I needed to, I faced death, and still have a stalker ex who wants to kill me. I see no reason to swap horror stories, but I have some pretty extreme ones.

      NBTDT can disagree with anyone NBTDT wants to. You are missing the point about this blog and differences of opinion.

      Both sides are extremists on these father or mother groups, and neither are right IMO. Same with the men bashing or women bashing- there are no absolutes on either side. Once again IMO.

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    29. NothingbettertodotodayFebruary 8, 2013 at 9:10 PM

      @ Oceans: Thanks - you hit the nails on the head, everyone of them.

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    30. Here is a thought, why don't all you anons take two seconds and pick some random screenname so that we CAN tell you apart and you CAN share your story in a way that people are able to know where you are coming from.

      It is really asinine to whine about people not being able to follow you when it is something you can address in a few seconds. Personally, I think it is stupid that at least one of you has rotating names for each situation.

      Here I'll let you guess who is speaking too. Annoying isn't it.

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    31. NothingbettertodotodayFebruary 8, 2013 at 9:18 PM

      Anon 9:16 - good job.

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    32. Hey Anon 8:21, I think you are talking about me...

      *Waves*

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    33. ahhh good ole Friday Night Fights, it never fails. Where is old man Webby so we can really ramp this puppy up into an all out WWIII?

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    34. @ Ginger, I know!

      Sorry I'm late gang!

      *Waves HI to Clubhouse*

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  20. Since it appeared that Maid of the Mist was hell bent on breaching the contract and screwing my baby boy’s company, I called the Niagara Parks Commission (“NPC”) to see if we could go into competition with Maid of the Mist. I was turned away, but the NPC told Maid of the Mist about my call. Less than three weeks later, we were sued.http://www.lawlessamerica.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=340:my-story-william-m-windsor&catid=100:about-william-m-windsor&Itemid=209

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    1. But you see Anon, MOM was minding it's own business.
      Windsor came along and wanted to use MOM to make some money for himself.
      MOM agreed at first, but then they found out Alcatraz was doing things they did not approve of.
      MOM tried to stop dealing with Alcatraz.
      Alcatraz, decided it would BULLY MOM into accepting their crap.
      In other words, there was a serious dispute going on between the two companies before the events you listed above.

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  21. Well see it won't only b P. A he has Ohio Texas and other states owning that suit. He said see you in court. Only thing is he has problem w is be can't file a motion due to vexzatious.Ouch pie man....

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  22. Billy is really dragging his feet on heading home LOL

    2-8-2013 - 4:15 PM -- NEAR DURHAM NORTH CAROLINA:

    Four hours in the car, and I started nodding. So off I went from I-85, and I am in a motel for more sleep. I am about halfway home. I don't know if I will make it tomorrow or not. I want to be home, but I won't risk driving exhausted.

    I took several calls in the car. Nothing to report. Folks did ask when there will be a recap of the event -- Sunday night at 10 pm on TalkShoe. I was also asked when we will explain the Grand Jury Initiative; that will be February 17 on TalkShoe.

    Nap time. :-)

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    1. OMG don't tell me he is going to drag these poor people down the Grand Jury black hole! Someone has to warn them!

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    2. Yes, he has said it a number of times. No one pays attention. I guess they are too broke. LOL

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  23. He is part of Boycotted American Women, that why he fly over and beg them to marry him...... she really not a mail order bride because he went there on money that was giving to him for the church

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    1. he is Pastor Paul Waldmiller sorry this should have posted above

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    2. He's a vile and sick MOFO is what he is. This is the kind of trash that whiny windsor hangs with? ROFLMAO! Go for it, you look like the biggest douche since John Aster (Pastor Pauls good buddy)
      Google or Bing that Sh!t, John aster arrested for child porn and then google the two names together. It's deeper than what appears on the outside of the faces of evil. It's what lies beneath that is scary.
      http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=NQJDWT4Sx3I

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  24. It is becoming more and more apparent that none of you have experienced the CORRUPT system!

    I assure you, to compare Windsor's case to mine is like comparing a paper cut with a malignant brain tumor, respectively. Windsor could have walked away from a business deal gone bad but he chose not to; he literally chose to make a federal case out of it, and spend a million in the process. On the other hand, I was a victim of a violent crime who got re-victimized by the court. Therefore, SHUT YOUR IGNORANT PIEHOLE!!!

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    1. Well said Sluggo!

      I have an inkling that he's not taking his sweet ass time to get home. He's probably on his way to Mexico or Canada w/his donations. These lemmings that continue and defent and exalt winsore is pathetic and shameful. Do you really want to look back at this experience and know you were wrong and what kind of guilt you will have to live with by you and your leaders attacks on others? Smoke and mirrors is all he is. Truly MADE OF MIST.

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  25. See Kerin, Bill wants an RV, and how do you think that is getting paid for?

    EXCITING LAWLESS AMERICA NEWS:

    I was approached in DC about our need for an RV so we can have filming going on out on the road at all times. I received an email from the gentleman asking for the specifications and indicating he wants to get started. VERY EXCITING!



    Bill Windsor My ideas on the specifications: Class A diesel. Only need to sleep four max. Prefer a floorplan with two bathrooms. Lightly used is okay as long as there were no smokers. We will want to paint it or wrap it black. We will work inside, so table/desk areas are important to us. Prefer one that does not require a truck license to operate. Need a hitch/rig to tow the Jeep. Need a generator that won't make a racket as we will film both inside and out. Need large underneath storage for gear. We will want to modify the layout of "master bedroom" area to make it a permanent work area with a small bed.



    And how do you think the maintenance and fuel costs will get paid for? Do you have any idea how much these RVs cost to operate?

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    1. It will save him and the hot babes all those motel fees though, so they may come out ahead.

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    2. yeah notice he says he has to sleep at least 4, one lot lizard for the night isn't going to cut it.

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    3. RV, huh? We've seen this before. He was supposed to have an RV lined up for his 50-state filming trip last summer.
      When it failed to arrive, Bill started the trip in his Jeep. Then week after week, he said an RV was on its way from a charity in Titusville, Florida. After a couple of months on the road, Bill said the RV wouldn't be coming after all, and he blamed the charity--railed at them on his Talkshue programs--said they were "despicable" to lead him on like that. Later on, we found out the reason the RV never came was because Bill and Lawless America wasn't a 501(c)3 non-profit charity. I'm not the expert my colleague is on Talkshue matters, but I believe there is a clip of Bill trying to solicit a "proxy" charity so he could get an RV donated to his cause. I'll check.

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    4. magic Bill's shagging wagon. 50 lot lizards in all 50 states (he is going to tow the toybota on it)

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    5. I would bet if someone does come through with his new home on wheels, it will be taken or seized. That will not fall under the non profit to my knowledge.

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    6. Geez I didn't think anything he said could stun me... I was wrong.

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    7. They can't take Windsor's home to pay the judgment. Under some circumstances they may be able to force him to sell it to pay, I don't know. But they can't just take the home. Besides, if he was really that close to losing everything, he would simply declare bankruptcy and discharge all of his debts while he's at it.

      But about the RV: Don't any of the LA people understand, that there are far more cost effective ways to get these people on film, than having Windsor traveling around the country? For the love of God, he could film them through SKYPE!

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  26. Why wouldn't he want an RV? Makes more sense than paying for motel rooms all the time ... for space to work in!!! WTH is your point!!!

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    1. he can buy one, but he is looking for someone else to give him one

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    2. lets try and expand our minds shall we Kerin....he is about to lose his home, and if he spends his money to buy a new RV that can be seized too but if he can get the lemmings to buy him a Lawless America RV he can keep it, or at least he thinks he can.

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    3. The clueless party of 1

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    4. NothingbettertodotodayFebruary 8, 2013 at 5:45 PM

      Yeah, and check out his wish list. Did he post the e-mail offer? If somebody really did make an offer, maybe the specifications choices are a 20 or 25 ft bumper pull or 5th wheel and a choice of interior colors?

      Slightly used is OK, he's not picky. LOL. What's he's talking about starts at $400+k and could easily run over $2 million.

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    5. I do feel the DOJ want to give him some free housing

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    6. But does it have a pie warmer?

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    7. SMH Kerin,

      NBTDT is right about the cost for the RV, and add in the operation cost( maybe 10 miles per gallon for fuel, and lots of tires, etc) , insurance, and licensing for a luxury vehicle(that is what they are when you are asking for 2 bathroom floor plans) is ridiculously expensive for such a small organization as Lawless America.

      You really don't understand how much money this is, or how truly small this group is do you Kerin?

      How damn many hotel rooms do you think Bill needs? And what is the point in his continued filming? He has more than enough now to cover all types of corruption and court cases. How about he takes those and makes something out of them,

      Do you actually think there is any individual improvement of any case because someone put it on film? Heck anyone can do that themselves. What does he plan on doing with all this film? He already has more than he needs or could use.

      Seriously Kerin, you aren't even making sense. Bill just knows he wants to keep traveling on someone else's dime.

      And read up on his attempts and statements about using someone else's charity status to benefit himself or LA. That is illegal, and he is stupid enough to brag about it.

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    8. traveling also make it harder for the police to find

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    9. Billy doesn't like RV's Kerin. He's just keeping up the scam because it's bringing him in $$$. I can't believe Kerin is actually real. She's not just drinking kool-aid, she's smoking his pie.

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  27. With respect to Kerin and her willful blindness to the facts, as the great comedian Ron White A/K/A 'Tater Salad says, Ya can't fix stupid!

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    1. OMG really!! Ron White funny guy.

      Amazing how blind some people are. I won't even read her comments anymore.

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  28. I am curious to know how Maria Melinn in one statement defends the old pieman and then in the other breath she calls him an MRA. She proclaims he is a MRA but she still supports him. I also make note from other blogs that this is the third group to not believe in Maria's story about the supposed abuse of her child. BTW I think that Ray Lewis's football paint was closer to a black eye than Maria's paint mascara job on poor Isiah. Just sayin. But, Maria has Protective Mothers Alliance International, American Mothers Political Party, and Citizens for Parental Rights, who all say her story about the abuse from her ex spouse blake has more holes than swiss cheese. Furthermore CPS has cleared Blake of any abuse over and over. She will not pay child support because she feels it is extortion from the state and subscribes to the Deanna Kloostra Statement her Partner in Crime on Abused Swan that the government should hand out jobs to parents if they are ordered to pay child support. the two of them together make the movie Dumb and Dumber look smarter and smarter. While Kloostra States in a mission statement that she is running against a Michigan senator in 2018 but in says over 4 times she is running for Congress. This pair is more than the odd couple. They are so stupid last year they called for Abused swan to picket the court house on a day inwhich the court was on a holiday. DUHHHH! OPPS! HONK HONK! I don't get these women. I think they have been getting high back in PIE mans minivan while he stopped over in Grand Rapids.

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    1. TWO FACED
      When Kloostra finds out what MM has said about her MM will be on to her next

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    2. i love cat fights, can you put me a link so I can see the action?

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  29. LMAO - checking out the newest LA followers. Here's a good one, his name is 程海杰.

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    1. NothingbettertodotodayFebruary 8, 2013 at 6:09 PM

      Sorry ^^^ that was me.

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    2. NothingbettertodotodayFebruary 8, 2013 at 6:16 PM

      Here are some more that obviously have an interest in exposing corruption in the US:

      泡泡 - appears to be a woman

      רפי רביבו - a man?

      and finally, هوود برهووم

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    3. Where's the Zuckerberg when ya need him? lol

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    4. Hey n (just kiddin) good find. The followers are becoming so blatantly fake he must really be getting desperate.

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    5. LOL, earlier today they didn't even have pictures - those must have been on clearance or sale...

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  30. Wow, I think Kerins level of comprehension is very low

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    1. Low is higher than I guessed.

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    2. Ah, good point, she is -10,000 on comprehension skills

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  31. Yappy, have you read connie's latest post, ouch sounds like Timmy just couldn't shut up and someone kicked the crap out of his face. At least he gets free medical now.

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    1. I had mentioned that several days ago prior to Connie putting it out there. Did you miss it Oceans? Will email you more later since Connie who never reads this blog, stalks on here and I refuse to give her any thing else to 'chew' on.

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  32. yappy thinks Billy isnt big on the RVer thingFebruary 8, 2013 at 7:16 PM

    ATTENTION LEMMINGS! re: Billy's Rv!

    Please read in black and white!! http://blog.roundamerica.com/?p=25

    Bill Windsor quote: We wish Kitty B Kitty could be a road cat, but our one long trip with her proved otherwise. We aren't RV'ers, so it wouldn't be fair to keep her cooped up in a little car, and most motels don't welcome animals.

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    1. awwww, wonder what his pussy cat is going to do?!

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    2. ooopsies guess he still can't keep his lies or truths straight. Maybe he better start googling himself first.

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    3. @Poor....that was written back in 2008. I'm just pointing out to those with their heads in the sand how much BILLY'S life is one great big contradiction. :D

      It must suck for Billy to be forced to eat his own words over and over. No wonder we (joeyisalittlekid) can't get on his hate list. All of us at the clubhouse each have a tiny piece of Billy's pie we keep tossing in his face. :(

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    4. We aren't RV'ers[sic]

      See, this yet another reason why you should doubt EVERYTHING coming out of Windsor's ugly pie hole!
      Windsor claims he's soooo smart and accomplished, yet he doesn't even know how to use an apostrophe!

      Of course, Bill will claim he knows how to use an apostrophe, obviously, what with his MENSA-grade, genius IQ, and the fact he's written many, many important yet unpublished books, but, like Superman, Spiderman and numerous other superheroes, he's just too dang busy fighting injustice to correct his own typos. Uggh!

      Then there's his claim he's a "professional journalist" because he was a publisher. Let's see...Larry Flynt is the publisher of Hustler and other men's mags, does that mean he's a "professional journalist"? By that standard, Mike the news stand guy can claim he's an "investigative journalist" because he helps customers find magazines sitting on shelves! Geesh!






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    5. LOl Sluggo, crystal cox calls herself and investigative journalist...so I guess anyone can

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    6. Yah...both Windsor and Cox want to pretend they're Mike Wallace making Nathan Thurms out of us all!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc2o8ywKqos

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    7. Heck Maria Melinn calls herself an expert witness in physco drugs like Xanax. I heard it was so funny that even the court reporter was laughing at her. If you want to see the footage of it ask Deanna, she had her mickey mouse camera there and took notes, made a blog about it all, and also says that she makes those sheriffs wet their pants with her beauty.

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    8. The most 'telling' part of Billy's Rv wish list? He will revamp the master bedroom for a large workspace and small bed.

      Yah for a guy who's wide awake at 4am screaming at the computer, I think it's safe to say Mrs Windsor will not be traveling.

      That and if it's just Bill, I'm trying to imagine how he could even sleep in a 'small bed' when it's just him. Back to the drawing board Billy, your bed would need an extra-wide double slide-out heavy duty hydraulics & frame.

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  33. Yappy I have no actual knowledge of whether the sheriff was attaching Windsor's personal property. It was just a suggestion of what would have caused that face when he saw that paper.

    He owes MOM over $75,000 and on 1-24-13 they were told the court can't do anything about Windsor's failure to pay until they have exhausted all means of debt collection themselves. There are only two things MOM can do: Property liens and seizure of his personal property to auction it off. I suspect MOM moved quickly to do those two things.

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  34. NBTDT.....Her is for female, enjoy being a bully tonight I was trying to keeping us working together..... Anon 6.23 down go read it again the pronoun are she and her....Kimberly

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    1. Bye Kimberly, don't let the door hit 'ya on the way out!!!

      signed, not NBTDT AND not male - just another woman who is tired of the children on the blog.

      Toodles!

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    2. I enjoy Kimberly's posts, why don't you leave instead?

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    3. Too bad it's a free country. I just don't feel the need to pander to all of you that can't bother to pick names. So, I'm just going to join you dumbasses.

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    4. No shit. This ain't a PieLiar Fakebook kinda place. We respect the opinions of others, agree to disagree & most importantly fact check. Humor is a bonus.
      I understand not using actual names, but, I agree the Anons are hard to keep straight. For a time, I couldn't get Google to accept my chosen profile. I would 'sign' my comments at completion.

      Ginger is the 'boss' here. Ginger sets few rules. General courtesies, common interests in exposing frauds, sharing information gained & being able to see the humor in these absurd individuals & their followers/supporters are what has kept Ginger & the Snaps 'together' for so long. I'd hate to see our 'newbies' get shitty with one another & the 'Snaps'. This is kinda my 'fun' time.... Everybody getting butthurt sucks the happy out of it & makes my tiara droop:/

      Official Minister of AlpacaGanda***waves @ Ginger***

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    5. crystle thepistol
      Lucchesi

      https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:URK2JRJlKQkJ:larkinbarcomplaint.weebly.com/uploads/3/8/5/2/3852497/1__ext_1__field_doc_2-10-09.pdf+%22crystle+Lucchesi%22+california&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESjdk7vopz9lIgLxtcePyZfAuh7v31OULEdvKCtBRyJ8yACCrRSuLGCfJLOBNojf1QtHgvs676GrPbfiN8p2mTocD-BCz3X2_9bKe7Xd6W8gNtRgGVNZ2Og4PBQrgNhmir-2hFr7&sig=AHIEtbSdhDZxthOdagfNzVLgWY6_tB-MLQ

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    6. That's why you are my #1 Alpaca.

      Yeah this is a place to take your pack off, not put it on. We wont be crusading against anything other than making liars and frauds look like the fools they are.

      If you are wondering about my background, well everything is just fine and ducky in Gingerland. I have never been a victim, but one thing I am sure of is if I ever am one..the last thing I would do is go on the net and broadcast that to everyone. But that's just me. I fully realize that some people will agree with me, some wont and most never asked me what I thought in the first place, I'm cool with that.

      This blog is never going to cure cancer, we are not going to take our country back (whatever that means), and we are not going to bring about world peace (sorry Mary B). We do hope to save a few people from continuing on in the scam that is Lawless America, but most importantly we are going to laugh or asses off at liars and frauds like Bill Windsor. If that's not your cup of tea, then stick to the crusading sites. But if you want to take you pack off, lean back in your chair and grab a drink and laugh at stupid people...then this is the place to be.

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    7. That being said.....

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDWWyLP2mqY

      I don't think he knows how to draw pies. They look square to me.

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    8. Don't like Sesame street?? Ok...

      how about the Hill Billy show? Looks like he still has a few tricks up his sleeve. Must have been one of his ole demo's from his tradeshow life.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUoAouk2IOY

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    9. NothingbettertodotodayFebruary 8, 2013 at 10:52 PM

      @ Anon 9:45, Petunia, Gingersnap, yappy: all of you just exemplified the reasons I fell in love with you. You made me smile again. Thank you.

      ((((group hug)))))

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    10. awww....smush...I love it I always get to be in the middle of groupie hugs.
      It's hard for the newbies to "get it", but we have been thru some major snit. Back in timey time, when no one was watching except the Yaweh-ers...

      Does it bother the other Snaps that y'all don't "know" me? the real me? like my shoe size? my fav color? which baby daddy is in good standing today? which coupons I keep & which ones I trade for Fabreeze 2 for 1s?

      Not knowing those little details about y'all just makes the stuff you do share here even funnier....some things are truly better left to the imagination. The facts you deliver & the ability to back them up & the skill with which videos are whipped out won me over many months ago.

      Love is a many splendored thing in many weird places & ways. I'll take it here, from y'all happily.

      I really relish when I get to do this: ***WORLD PEACE*** WAVES***winks at Brannon***

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  35. I heard that Bill was going to lend Deanna Kloostra the RV when she goes on her 83 michigan county tour for lawless America/vote me for Congress cough Cough.

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    1. That little dig might have worked, if he didn't just out her, her group and another woman from the group in a less than polite way.

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    2. the Pieman doesn't do anything in a polite or reasonable way, his head would explode if he tried

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    3. My observation was that once they broke out the lawless Michigan and gave it to Deanna that she along with her third wheel Dennis Lawrence another of the Pieman's Favorites in Michigan was taking it under their wing making it their own since their group Michigan for Parental Rights nobody was answering the doors at Lansing and it had no following at all. Basically it was hijacked day one by that group.

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    4. You just described almost everyone who runs a state page. Act of Courage, Glen G's group isn't he running CT? or something like that?

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  36. Ok, I'm being ignored. From the previous post, will you please ping me and post the result? I'm dying to know if it works accurately. *please?* No offense Ginger, but I'm curious if the DOJ really read here.

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    1. Yesterday at the start of the blog post, just below the title is a little picture of the stat counter that shows that DOJ visited the Joey's blog page. If Ginger has a way of knowing how much they read that would be really cool.

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    2. ok, sorry I was at the gym until now. You still want to play ping go for it, and do you want me to give your location and IP address or just your location?

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    3. ok, I'm going to assume you want me to since you logged in from a android 2 mobile phone which means I don't know your location but your IP is 174.253.133.11

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    4. Ginger!! Under no circumstance are you to post my location! I am less than 30 feet from PieLiar & if he sees me with his "ninja view finder" after reading here & sees thru my disguise as the waitress at Patty's Palace of Pie...well, it's gonna dink up my tip for sure. I know I was posting from Aruba earlier, but I used my personal drone/unicorn & zipped onto PieLiar's crusty crumb trail.

      Sssshhhhhh>>>>>I'm covert. Tiara is OFF (but Unicorn is wearing it for safekeeping)

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  37. There's so much to comment on roflmao! But since the gossip du jour is dinkus Billy....he's nothing more than a provocateur.

    "THE GOVERNMENT HAS SPOOKY POWERS: SECRET SERVICE AT MEET ME IN DC:

    The Secret Service was hiding in the back row in the theater at the Capitol where we spoke. Two undercover agents. In this first photo, you can just barely see their little cap-covered heads.

    I went up there with my camera and snapped the second photo with the two men seated there. I handed them my business card and asked if they would like to come down and join the rest of the audience. They just hid their faces and slumped further down in their chairs. Now, here's the spooky part: They don't show up in the photo! I swear they were there when I took the photo." S P O O K Y

    Have you ever seen secret service dressed like that first of all? But photographic PROOF that der Fuhrer is a lying, cowardice snake in the grass (HIS OWN PICS FYI) He's feeding the fears of these people who are psychologically damaged, they have to be, what sane person would believe this shit????? I am in awe every day at the level of ignorance. Sad part is I shouldn't be at this point of the game. ****waving to Alpacaganda Ambassador*** Looks like y'all got a real handle on this.

    http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=imsbid&s=6
    http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2l6mw3&s=6

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    1. LOL Right pie boy!! Why does he feel the need to constantly incite fear? I mean, what is the point?
      It's actually sick.

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    2. I'm kinda counting on those Secret Service guys or whatever agency protects legislators, to be there. All the time. I really don't expect them to wear a name tag or a bright badge... I'm cool with the undercover, ninja stuff. Call me crazy, or a KoolAide drinker, but, I don't mind someone watching public places where important shit goes on, like Congress, the Capitol, the WhiteHouse, WalMart, my kid's school, my hood....Here's my conspiracy theory: if you aren't doing anything wrong? Those secret servicey kinda ninjas aren't looking at you. It's a complicated theory. I tried to dumb it down.

      AND, what is the legal doc? & why are we looking at it? I read for about 6 pages & I lost interest...can someone smarter than me clue me in?

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    3. I went up there with my camera and snapped the second photo with the two men seated there.

      What do you mean TWO men seated there? I counted 200 men, but I guess that's because I used the WCM--Windsor Counting Method. ;-)

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    4. NothingbettertodotodayFebruary 8, 2013 at 11:29 PM

      @ Roo & Petunia: where did you find that post? I want to see the legal doc.

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