Wednesday, April 17, 2013

The Windbagmobile


Determined as ever to remove all physical exertion out of his life, Bill is turning to his lemmings to pony up the cash for his slothful lifestyle.  After suspiciously getting an RV donated to him, which would remove all that hard muscle movement that he had to exert by pulling the camera down from the top of the jeep, the man who claims he has no money now has him a 3-wheel scooter to get around the urban areas.  Now if he could just find some kind of contraption to push him out of bed each morning and to put the gas hose in the gas tank for him, he would have it made.

LAWLESS AMERICA MOVIE ROAD TRIP II UPDATE - APRIL 17, 2013 - 9:00 AM CENTRAL TIME:

I'm on the road again uhhh yeah we know, you have been saying that for a week now. The backup camera is set up for filming, and the Canon Service Center in Virginia will have the big camera today, and they will advise how long it will take to fix it how can you afford all this if you are broke?.

I'm traveling Route 66 today from south of Chicago to Springfield, Illinois thats not much of a trip, you need lots of potty breaks or something?. Tomorrow, I go to Joplin, Missouri haven't those people suffered enough?.

Then on Friday morning, I'm back in the Kansas City area where I inspect the RV that has been chosen and consummate the acquisition uhhhh, is this the kinds of things a lonely, old, horny man says?. I'm excited I see that, now please put your pants back on. I'll miss the Jeep, but an RV will make this job so much more efficient I'm moving up the projected 2042 movie release date up to 2037 thanks to this RV alone. I don't expect to work any less because I'm retired, but I expect to pack more into every day lot lizards and pie, what a life.

I believe I have the solution for getting around in urban areas take the loop?. a little of the money we we, we who? saved who saved?  I thought it was donated, what was the budget? with finding a much better deal on a used RV will be spent on a trike -- 3-wheel motorcycle it earned 4 stars from AARP for its bathroom accessibility. We're just confirming that the lift and carrier we've found will accommodate it dont lie bill, you plan to use the lift yourself dont you?. It has a trunk large enough to carry the film gear and my doggie bags, and I'm not comfortable with a 2-wheel bike one or both of the wheels keeps going flat. And I'm really not comfortable with towing something else behind a 32-foot RV you're not comfortable? what about all the traffic around you?. I was never good at backing while pulling a trailer thats why I always like to walk forward.

So, the plan continues to be to acquire the RV on Friday and "consummate" it; drive straight to Georgia to load up the rest of the equipment; and try to get it painted and 'wrapped' before heading to Sevierville I'm going to dollywood, Tennessee for Jimmie Robinson's hearing and filming at several prisons they might not let you back out. From there, it's Knoxville, Nashville, Memphis, St. Louis, Tulsa, Oklahoma City, Amarillo, Albuquerque, Phoenix, Los Angeles, San Diego, Hollywood, Santa Clara, San Francisco, and Sacramento cue Johnny Cash. Anyone wishing to be filmed along that route needs to contact me ASAP just be waiting on the shoulder next to the specified mile marker. This will complete filming in Tennessee, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Arizona, and California. The itinerary is yet to be determined beyond Sacramento no Hawaii?  does this RV not float?.

Everyone needs to review this article, because the logistics are different for the Lawless America Movie Road Trip II.

161 comments:

  1. Pretty soon come the posts where he's 'sick' and asking for sympathy...

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  2. Watch hell come down with some fatal rare disease no one has heard of and need medical care, ,,That will cause the Utube movie to be behind again, untill he collects money and becomes well by a miracle donation, Bill shoulda been one of these TV preachers, lol

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    1. 2 and 3 hour drives? Guess that's how he plans to answer the questions I raised about his safety being on the road for so long. Yeah, it may have been a little white lie all along about filming inside the RV just so he could mislead people into why he should buy it. Now he has to make up excuses for why they can't go in it...and that will create a custom where no one ever goes inside it and no one will remember why. I wonder if anyone would even want to risk their safety going in there along with a desperate man and the gun he claims to have. Ok, even then, old hermits all too often tend to have messy and smelly homes.

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    1. LMAO! *~*Redd*~*

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    2. LOL Sluggo. I particularly like the Speed bump one. This guy might become one...

      Daniel Walsh Bill..you do what you think is right...but in this point in time I would focus on those people that have actual evidence laws have been violated and crimes have been committed..just my honest opinion of course..

      Silly Daniel. He can't do that, then there probably wouldn't be anyone left. Seems only the truly vexatious, liars, and mentally unstable people remain now.

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    3. Perspective

      [How's about this for an "image flip"?]

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    4. Good one Sluggo. Brings the whole "donation" thing to a whole new meaning. No balls, no brains, no problem.
      It's the ones with, that get axed, if they don't hand it all over upon joining.

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  4. Ok, I think we need another video disputing this crap, with Windsor's lies, and the real truth.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU2q4eCFxh4&feature=player_embedded

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    1. Pure and total Billshit. Notice once again Billy boy farms out his crap so he can pretend to be lilly white and innocent. Who is this shifty eyed woman and what authority does she have to speak on other people's cases? And boy oh boy is she right the father has the right to say he doesn't want these things on the internet---which just prives what kind of heartless two faced reckless non caring jerk BW is that he himself placed this on the internet above the concerns of the welfare of the child and the objections of BOTH PARENTS.

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    2. Yep I agree with you 100%

      Just when you think it's all done and blown over, here comes some other pinhead without a brain.

      Bill has to farm this out because he has no clue how to edit anything. This troll wasn't doing a favor, she was doing what Bill promised in the beginning. Whatever, you know what I am getting at.

      So again, so blind, stupid, troll bitch, sticks her nose into something, puts her non professional spin on it, which she heard from Bill since she said she doesn't even know Allie, and boom, it's proof. I am seriously getting sick of this shit.

      And, your point there, about the videos on the internet without consent, ya, I think that's going to get him lawsuits up the ass. Once the other sides start realizing they are out there, its a done deal for him.

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    3. "blind, stupid, troll bitch" is named Naomi Chambers, I think. It appears she's posted a lot of Bill's videos on Youtube. All I could think while she was talking (besides what a low life, scum bag, panty waste Bill is) is that she is describing what we think of all the lemmings. I like how he bogarts all responsibility for deciding who is credible, then has the lemmings say he can't be responsible when someone is busted for not being credible. Funny how that works.

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    4. Right. And how many "other side" of the story have you done? Discrediting numerous of these so called "victims" he still supports? Ya, Bill is the one who has zero credibility.

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    5. yeah, I'm fixin' to do another 'other side of the story'. Another 'victim' caught my attention today. I wasn't going to say anything, I think we've a point. But after Bill's latest video, I've decided to point out again how Bill makes sh*t up. Doesn't matter to me whether Allie did or didn't make sh*t up at this point. What matters is that Bill does, then goes out of his way to point that gnarly old fat finger at all his ex-pats like he's God sent and a saint.

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    6. Right on. Since he didn't bother to check anyone's story, he deserves to get some reality pie once in a while.

      That's where I wish I was more tech savy. I think all HIS lies, need to be put on a nice little youtube of their own. Interviews with numerous people he conned, scammed, went after relentlessly in court, falsely accused of something, ya know, like he's doing to others, but with truth.

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    7. she took my post down, saying he lied to the judge and said his page was hack that why it was dismiss..... blind and dumb

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    8. I think Billy would argue the consent form gives him the legal right to post the videos on youtube. The problem there is he has represented some consideration for the contract which he has now changed, and that could be considered a breach of the agreement.

      [I'm not an attorney, so go Pro Se yourself. ;-) ]

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    9. Send link when you are done NBTDT :-)

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    10. What is bad is that most people are self serving when it comes to presenting their side of the story. Those who know me will tell you that I personally will pull no punches when it comes to my life and my story, I screwed up pretty bad when I was younger. Does that mean I cannot change? And anyone who asks me (well almost anyone lol) I will tell them the truth. And my screw ups weren't that horrible - I was young and overwhelmed. In my eyes though it was still no excuse.

      You see, that is what almost 23 years in a twelve step group has done for me. And all of that 23 years is clean and sober.

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    11. Re: another 'other side of the story' - I meant to get it done last night but got side tracked by an explosion down the road a piece. There's a little more research needed (there are 2 people with similar names, need to be sure of facts), then I will post it here & on the LA is a fraud page.

      Re: life's mistakes and bad choices. We all make them, that is the bane of our existence. If you aren't making mistakes, you aren't learning. It's not the mistake that matters so much, it's admitting the mistake and how the mistake is addressed or corrected that does matter.

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  5. I found an RV song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bYque-6pJc

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    1. A new video about the new Pie RV ought to be made with this perfect song.

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  6. So where is the "recording made of the uh proceedings" that he states in that video he would "publish that for people to see"?

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    1. Oh now, you weren't supposed to catch that. He says that kind of stuff all the time, and then nothing ever comes of it, and no one ever asks. Chalk that up to another lie of pie.

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    2. My bad. Too easy.

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  7. http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2013/04/17/erin-dana-bash-ricin-arrest-made.cnn.html

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    1. Good. Can't wait for more details.

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  8. Oh dear God, make these bullys stop giving my ex's lawyer ammunition to strip my parental rights when they don't even know me and get most of the points wrong. My son? Excuse me? My son has never even been brought up in court. He was not accused nor ruled to of done anything to his sister. Wowza.

    And I do not know that chick. I assume its the one who edited my video but I never asked her to , Bill did, after I begged him to edit it. He told me to thank a woman for doing the editing so I did, but it was a different facebook name than on that video.

    Nice how people cause more harrassment and cause more negative shit to fight in custody court without a lawyer and cause weirdos to call me and threaten me, all based on partial stories and lies.

    I agree with my ex's lawyer on one thing......I'm sorry I ever made that stupid video or ever met Bill Windbag the liar. I thought he was honest and would redact the video as promised. I thought it was my only hope to expose the case workers lies on their reports and the cop that didn't do his investigation right. It caused my daughter to suffer. My goal was to expose the case workers and the cop, moreso than the dad. Not that I wanted to protect the dad, but I wanted the focus to be on the judicial part. Silly me . Damn hard lesson. I thought I was doing a service to equal parenting, which I was writing a Missouri shared parenting bill and working with the congressional board in Missouri at the time. I was lobbying for presumed equal parenting at the beginning of divorce then go from there if there was evidence of abuse or neglect or issues. Not shared parenting no matter what, just presumed shared parenting at the beginning of a court proceeding until evidence was presented one way or the other. Boy, Bill Windsor and his monkeys sure threw a wrench in that. Now, because of their words, I'm fighting to even see my daughter at all. Fighting hearsay and lies. Actual court action because of my involvement with Windsor, and now, because of Windsors words against me and his lemmings words. What an ass clown that guy. I pray he gets hit with his conscience in a big way.



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    1. He has no conscience!! You should pray he gets hit by his own RV!

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    2. another fake profile on lawless page ....


      bill windsor my butt hurts

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    3. Well with opposing lawyers reading here, I will leave my personal wishes out. lol.

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    4. It would be nice if they would actually join forces with you to sue him for publishing the youtube you asked him to take down, as did they, and he continues to write about the details. If they were really in this to protect the child as they say, then they would. (this was the main reason the filed against you right? so then it would appear shady to allow him to continue to do it)

      I am sure there are many people who felt so desperate that their voices weren't being heard, they put caution to the wind when he came in and made it all sound so easy to just simply be taped. How many of these people thought he would put them on Youtube for the world to see? Instead of a documentary that was supposed to change or alert law makers of the problems in court cases.

      This is when you'll see the true hearts of the opposing side. If they use this information against you, knowing that you went so far as to file a PO against this man, then it proves it's not about the best interest of the child. I hope they choose the high road for the sake of the child.

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    5. IMO this is where the Mothers rights/ fathers rights groups come into play. Both of those groups will circulate videos and information for the one party with no consideration to the other. Family court/ criminal court views both sides of a portion of the story, under highly stressed circumstances. The separate groups allow time in a more relaxed arena for the story to be shared. They are also gender loyal, and if they honor that, they won't share information with the opposing party. Often attorneys pick out issues that fit the statutes...ie..emotional abuse is not considered abuse in many areas...which leaves many to feel their voices were not heard. Sometimes this brings about change, more often it brings about emotional support which helps in the healing process. They play an important role...except for the extreme ones that are considered hate groups anyway. Just my opinion *~*Redd*~*

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  9. Ha...watch me or Tiny get blamed. That's a cute pic of him though.

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    1. I think one of our regular Snaps created that picture (not the facebook page, just the pic a month or two back). LOL

      Wait for the 64 3/4 screaming toddlers meltdown to come.

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  10. Ninja, I agree but my ex wants me out of my daughter's life. He's pissed I turned him him. And his lawyer is being paid to do just that. It's her job. And she seems to put integrity aside to accomplish it. No, hearing after hearing and they never even mention my daughter. :(

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    1. I'm so sorry. I just wish it could be different, because after all, it's a child's life here, and his issues and her paycheck shouldn't override that fact.

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  11. Well the post bombing by the new profile brought out an interesting comment.

    Betsy Combier When I asked Bill Windsor where my video or statement was, he emailed me back that I was permanently removed from his database and if I ever sent him an email again he would report me to Google as harassing him. Good luck to all who decide to spend any time with him!!!

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    1. Wow. I'm not surprised. That's the sort of thing that first made me question his motives.

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  12. watching the news, and hoping none of you are in the area of the explosions...Prayers for those in Texas who lost their lives, and their families and all those affected.

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    1. Some are not far from it Oceans. My prayers & thoughts are with everyone affected. It sounds like a lot of deaths. I guess some firefighters are missing :(

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    2. Several of the regulars are within 1 to 1.5 hour's drive of West. It's very bad. Reports are that 60 to 70 have been killed. The whole town has been evacuated. The first fireman that responded to the fire before the explosion are volunteers and are unaccounted for.

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    3. OMG sending prayers, lots of em! Please check in when you can...Brannon, you ok? *~*Redd*~*

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    4. LOL - yep, Brannon survived the blast, keep them tassels twirling.........

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    5. Thank you! I got blue ones on today, matching those Texas blue bells! *~*Redd*~*

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  13. Amen Oceans. Tonight as I came in for my graveyard shift, we did a hard hat ceremony. I work in similar environments (not a fertilizer plant) and my union (no union bashing please) does that whenever other industrial plants have accidents. Its just a comradery thing, but it makes you feel connected. It could easily be this plant exploding, so which union, or no union, doesn't matter. Tonight in a small Missouri town in a giant power plant, 109 men (and one woman) took off our hard hats to kneel on the floor and toss cash in a bucket while the graveyard mechanic (preacher by day) lead a working man's prayer.

    Prayers to those of you close to there who may have friends or family involved.

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    1. Thank your crew for us. All of the people rushing in to help are also at risk. There is ammonia stored in tanks that could still explode and then we have typical April severe weather on the way. About the time helpers will arrive with supplies, severe storms with large hail will be hitting the area.

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    2. We have tons of large anhydrous tanks here too. It is a dangerous thing. I will tell the guys, they will appreciate that.

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    3. The explosion was so large it registered 2.1 on the Richter scale.

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    4. Damn.....there's a somber feeling here tonight in a crew that usually is loud and happy. Texas is in everyone's heart's tonight.

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    5. I believe in the power of thought and prayer. I'm sure that the people of West felt your energy and I am grateful to you for them.

      And, God bless the people of Texas. By midnight, authorities in West were saying so many people had responded from all over the state, they had TOO MUCH help.

      Our own Bob Lookout is one of the heroes - he left with a group in the middle of the night to help transport folks to shelter near Dallas.

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  14. There are just so many people to pray for right now.

    I heard about the firefighters and possibly other ems that were believed to be caught in the blast. Having been married to a firefighter, I know how this works, and I know the bravery that leads them into the worst of the danger.

    I hope they can get the fire out near that tank. I pray there are no more lost to this and that those in need get help quickly. I wish there was a way to help, and I know there will be in the days to come.

    You are all in my prayers tonight... stay safe and strong.

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    1. ***waving at you Oceans!***I hope you're doing good. I like seeing your name there^

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  15. Has anybody seen this Windsor loving blog yet? Just curious.

    http://abusiveadvocates.wordpress.com/

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    1. Yes, we here call it the "Dog blog" Abusive Advocates, not Abuse Advocates. Lundy should be proud. PMA and Julia Fletcher used Windsor to launched attacks to destroy all other organizations due to jealousy, hate, revenge, and vengeance. Nice hu?

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    2. I have to laugh at that blog because the writer thinks a screen dump is the same as an electronic image taken with a digital camera!

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    3. I feel special - I was lucky enough to not only be attacked by BW, but I got it from dog blogger too. A few words about Janice. I worked with her in the very beginning before there was even a PMA. She dumped me because I was not doing stuff fast enough or good enough, and I was not available to her at the drop of a hat. Well gee whiz Janus, I am sorry I had to work full time to support myslef and my child because dad could not be bothered with something as simple as a child support payment (and at that time his support was equal to about 15% of his take home pay, so it was not like it killed him), I was in school full time carrying a horrendous load, I was trying to care for my child as well, and I was having to deal with a huge abuse investigation consisting of false allegations levied by dad, and with the fallout to one of my boyfriends relatives due to dad calling our house when we were both gone. So Janus kind of slipped down the ladder and when the abuse allegations arose, she disappeared. She refused to answer any of my calls even though one week prior to the calls to CPS from dad, she stated to me and the other lady in our circle, that she wanted a good tight case to work on with Lundy so they could have a feel good to start PMA with a bang. I sat at the computer and created every last email address used for PMA. Hmmmm I wonder????? LOL....

      Anyways, dog blog and Janus can all stick it. I am taking care of my stuff, I am taking care of my child, and they can bit the bullet. Janus has the hots for Lundy and she has been trying since 2008 to get him to just see the light and see that he wants to forsake all others and marry her. And no she is not a protective mother unless you take those two words and separate them. She is a mother and she is protective - protective of her monetary interest in her ex-husband.

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    4. @anon 10:18 thank you for sharing that! It really explains the ties between Janass and Julia aka Marlene Debek. They are both in this due to a financial interest. That also explains the support of Bill. *~*Redd*~*

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    5. Hmmm after perusing the dog blog, I think an email is in order to CPPA. Notice that stands for California Protective Parent Assocation. Not mother, not father. Hmmmmm the plot thickens.

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    6. Yeah, that DogBitchBlogger likes everything I say or do!
      She thinks I'm an inciter~
      I luff that I have that kinda influence over total strangers via Ginger's Clubhouse comments' section, that I participate in!

      I thanked the DogBitchBlogger personally on her 'article' about me & she's Windsore sucker, she wussily deleted my words~

      Arf Arf Arf

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    7. Wow, I hadn't seen their slam post on CPPA. Seems they are a touch jealous that they aren't listed on the page like AMPP is. AWWWW well, that proves they are jealous of AMPP. And here's a question, will they now slander CPPA?

      Lundy better wake up, Janice is destroying his reputation. OR is Lundy on board attacking other protective groups? Inquiring minds...

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  16. Julia posts this, under the new video Windbag reposted from last night. Look how a so called "advocate" will maliciously attack someone, but make it seem so innocent. Two faced troll. Read what you posts, look in the mirror while you do so, then get back to work paying your judgment, bitch.

    Julia Fletcher This comment is not to judge or to further divide. It's just to agree that we have to be careful of what we believe and who we believe. According to Dr. Martha Stout, 1 in 25 people don't have a conscience. That means, out of a hundred people, about 4 of those people don't think like the other 96. Many are very charming, very intelligent and they have no conscience. Dr. Stout says their #1 strategy is the pity party.

    I hope for the best for all. The 96% and the 4% too. There's always hope when we make room for hope. Here's a very interesting audio from Dr. Stout's book, The Sociopath Next Door.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFVrvoYTGu0

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    1. Ah, Julia aka Marlene Debek is posting about her own kind, the sociopaths! She has no conscious about how many lives she messes with, as long as it furthers her own financial interest. She does not want to pay her ex what he is due in regards to her false allegations. *~*Redd*~*

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  17. We should have a Janice and Julia page on facebook...

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  18. Pie Man Zombie HunterApril 18, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    Did anyone notice that Janice put the pedo bear on PMA page?

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  19. That Naomi witch is just that, a BIG HUGE WITCH. Look at this shit. It is clear, that if you are involved in LAWLESS AMERICA you can attack at will, (which is what she did by making that video for BILL) yet, the person being attacked in NOT allowed to defend themselves. Lowest of Lowlifes swim in the pond scum that is Billschit.

    http://venturephilosophy.blogspot.com/p/the-satire.html

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  20. Hey, who out there wants an update on the ongoing Maid of the Mist litigation that Bill Windsor has going (still--seven years after initial filing!) in Georgia federal court?

    Don't all jump in to say "Oooh, me!" at the same time....

    When we last left this soap opera, Bill's wife, Barbara, had bailed him out of $100,000 of debt that he owed to the Maid folks and their attorneys. In return for the $100K check that she wrote them, Maid agreed to release Barbara from her obligation to answer their discovery questions about her finances. However, Maid made it very clear in their filing with the court that they still expected Bill to answer the questions they'd hit him with.

    In my comments laying this out a few weeks ago, I expressed confusion as to what Maid was still after: given that the $100K check settled the contempt and attorneys'-fees amounts (which all add up to $88,540.68, it now appears) that Bill owed Maid, what did they have left to fight about? And if there was nothing left to fight about, why did Maid need answers from Bill? (And does Maid owe Barbara $11,459.32 change?)

    In Docket #372, an order filed on Monday, April 8 (gee, what was Bill doing that day, again?), federal judge William S. Duffey made pretty much the same points I did. "[I]t is not immediately apparent what the Plaintiffs seek to accomplish by pursuing discovery," he wrote. As a result, Duffey has put a halt to the discovery requests directed at Bill, and he's ordered Maid to explain, by April 22, why they still need information from Bill.

    Windsor himself will then be given two weeks (i.e., until May 6 at the latest) to respond, presumably to argue that Maid's reasons aren't good enough, and therefore Windsor shouldn't be forced to cough up information. Duffey has warned Windsor not to perform his usual file-a-bunch-of-ridiculous-crap routine, though: Windsor's reply will only be accepted by the court if his "filing comports with this Court's general filing requirements and is responsive to the Plaintiffs' response."

    So unless Maid can come up with a good reason why they still need information from Windsor, he's not going to have to answer their questions. At the very least, Maid's filing on or before April 22 ought to shed some light on what it is that's left of the lawsuit.

    Meanwhile, though, the news is not all good for Bill….

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      Meanwhile, though, the news is not all good for Bill. Barbara's $100K check may have settled his accounts with regard to the Maid of the Mist company itself and its attorneys, but he still owes the court money for all the contempt he's committed in the case. Later on April 8 (again, I forget—where was Bill that day?), the clerk's office of the Georgia federal court entered a judgment (docket #373) against Windsor in the amount of $29,500, payable directly to the court. So he's still on the hook for almost thirty thousand dollars. Perhaps Barbara will pay this one off, too—but does she still want to do that?

      Finally, on Tuesday, May 9, docket #375, Judge Duffey for some reason decided to allow one of Windsor's old filings (dated April 3), in which Windsor argued that he should be excused from answering Maid's discovery requests, to see the light of day after all. (Previously, on April 4, in docket #367, Duffey had said he wasn't going to let this and some other Windsor filings through.) Duffey dismissed Windsor's request as moot, though, because in the previous filing he had already put a hold on the discovery requests pending Maid's attempt to explain itself.

      So now the public can see docket #374, Bill's April 3 argument that the Court should let him avoid Maid's discovery requests. His reasons that he should be let out are fascinating:

      First, he claims that Maid double-crossed him: he says he understood the original deal was that, for Barbara's $100,000 check, both Windsors would be off the hook regarding discovery responses. Maid asserted, heatedly, to the court that it was only Barbara. (If Bill's version of the facts is accurate, he was a fool not to get this issue spelled out in writing before the check was handed over. From his description, it seems entirely possible that Barbara misunderstood the deal when she described it to Bill... or that he's just lying about the whole thing.)

      Second, he's making the understandable and not-clearly-unreasonable argument that Maid has nothing to fight for anymore, so they shouldn't be able to force him to answer questions.

      Third, he claims he can't answer the discovery requests, because Maid has all his documents. He says he turned over "[a]pproximately six boxes of ORIGINAL documents" in a previous round of discovery in May 2011—and Maid never gave them back, as Windsor thought they would. He says he can't answer the requests without the docs they took from him.

      Bill's last three reasons for avoiding discovery are sillier and much more entertaining….

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      Fourth, apparently Maid is asking questions regarding Lawless America in particular (!). Sez Bill: "Lawless America is not owned by William [?!?] or Barbara, and information related to Lawless America is confidential and not relevant to this matter." Oooh—juicy! Wouldn't we all like to see Bill forced to answer those questions? ("Confidential," my ear. This is discovery under Rule 26, buddy. What, are you going to pretend that your LA finances are trade secrets? Good luck!)

      Fifth, he's "pleading the Fifth"! Windsor says that

      [b]ecause [he] has previously provided extensive documentation that was never returned, [he] is at risk of committing perjury with any response. ... William feels the only reason for the Plaintiffs to continue to make financial requests is in an attempt to obtain information that might be used to accuse William of committing a crime. Therefore, William refuses to answer on the grounds that any response may incriminate him.

      Wow! I've never seen someone take the Fifth in response to a civil-court discovery request (from a private party, no less) before—hilarious!

      Sixth and last, Windsor refuses to let the Maid folks tromp around in his house:

      The Plaintiffs have requested to enter William and Barbara's homes. ["Homes"?!? - ed.] This must be denied. William considers that he is suspected of committing crimes. Therefore, William will not agree to provide access to his homes except to the police with a search warrant obtained upon sufficient cause. William refuses to provide access on the grounds that to do so may incriminate him. William believes the Plaintiffs could use access to set up the Windsors for crimes.

      The paranoia is just fabulous, as is the basic confusion regarding private and public entities as they pertain to the Fourth Amendment.

      Anyway. For the purposes of those of us keeping an eye on Lawless America and Windsor's misbehavior generally, it's really too bad that Maid and its lawyers accepted Barbara's $100,000. If they hadn't, they'd totally have Windsor over a barrel when it comes to this whining about discovery. They'd be able to uncover plenty about Lawless America's finances, as well as how in the hell "penniless" Bill Windsor can afford to own two houses and drive all over the country.

      Of course, it's almost certainly in the best interests of the Maid company and its attorneys to acquire a sure-thing hundred thousand bucks rather than hold off on that in order to make things hurt even more for Windsor. And just possibly they still do have legitimate grounds for keeping the discovery heat on Bill—though they'll have to explain to the court by this coming Monday what those grounds are. Guess we'll have to stay tuned.

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    3. wow, thanks for the update. It is certainly clear from this that the long rumored split between Bill and Barbara is quite evident.

      While Maid of the Mist's claims may end up being ruled to be satisfied, they are showing the way for the myriad of others that have, or will have, recourse against Bill. Someone will end up getting to look over their books, and Barbara better run away from this while she still has the legal option to do so....aka divorce.

      btw, I'm hearing the sick son of a bitch just did another drive by on Allie's house this morning.

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    4. Attorney,

      Thanks so much for the update; it's orders of magnitude better than an E-ticket at Disneyworld!

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    5. I'll check back in on Tuesday, see what Maid files. It's possible that it'll be a big anticlimax: they might say "Never mind; we've got our $100K, we're going home, good-bye." But let's hope they keep fighting.

      I still don't know what to think about Barbara. Bill's filing makes it clear that she (or, more likely, her personal attorney) did the negotiating with the Maid attorneys over the money-for-no-discovery deal. Sure, she could be dumping Bill, but I don't think that's entirely clear. It will be interesting to watch out for who, if anyone, pays the $30K that Bill now owes the court. (Er, ech, that's a pretty good motivation for Bill to do "Lawless America fundraising," isn't it?)

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    6. Sluggo—watch out when it comes to those E-tickets. I hear that there are some assholes online who pull nasty scams with that kind of thing. Y'know?

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    7. Attorney comes in with some GREAT info once again!! Thank you!!

      Who else thinks Bill is playing the semantic billcrap he always does by saying he doesn't own Lawless America. Well DUH, he never trademarked the name, and it appears someone else filed for it. Also, missing is the non-profit with any name he uses, including the new "association" word.

      Now why would Trish and David say on their talkspew show that David is the Vice President of the non profit? All this fancy foot work, while the court clocks tick make a good hummmmmm moment.

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    8. Re the Barbara thing, IF she is dumping him, that little bit, could very well be the slap in his face he didn't see coming. She made sure she was clear, and said "screw him." Leaving his ass exposed. Now that would be some funny backdoor justice for her right there.

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    9. So we have Bill on record saying he can't answer questions about the financial status of LA for fear of committing perjury (of course he manages to project blame even in this).

      Could it be Babs just doesn't want anyone asking about her own conduct? Maybe she needs to file for a divorce to get her husband to quit obsessing over other women. Now that would be a cat fight,

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    10. Pie Man Zombie HunterApril 18, 2013 at 5:17 PM

      I do think she is dumbing him because the checks for lawless is in his name now....


      I have called Maid of Mist in New York; the woman who answers the Phone said there is a picture of Bill Windsor, with a strong warning not to let him in..... I told them he is making up all kind of lies about them, to conned people out of money

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    11. PMZH:
      I do think she is dumbing him because the checks for lawless is in his name now....

      That is interesting. But it could just mean that Bill has now figured out that there's no point in having Barbara act as his patsy—because the creditors will simply go after her to get at the money, as Maid just successfully did.

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  21. Ninja:
    Who else thinks Bill is playing the semantic billcrap he always does by saying he doesn't own Lawless America. Well DUH, he never trademarked the name, and it appears someone else filed for it.

    In that part of docket #374, he can't just be talking about "owning" the trademark on the name. He's saying he can't answer questions pertaining to LA in part because he doesn't own LA.

    "Semantic billcrap," indeed; given what LA is, how can Windsor's non-"ownership" (regardless of what he thinks that means) of LA be any kind of problem for his ability to answer questions about it? It's flatly ridiculous, and that kind of nonsense is sort of Windsor's attitude toward inconvenient facts in microcosm. It's why no judge that he meets is likely ever to take him seriously. One hopes!

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    1. Lawless America belongs to the people in the movie. It is a part of us all! Kumbaya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let's hug and sway & hold hands & sing. We're a family!!!!! YAYAYAYAYAYAY!!!!!

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    2. True. LOL I know there is a lot more to ownership, than just the trademark, I just mentioned that one part because it's a chuckle fest and a thorn for him.
      (Just want them to get on a transcript that he is a LIAR)

      In two articles he says two different things. 1 he is the founder, 2 he is the chief activist. I am sure he calls himself all kinds of different titles. Semantics of Windsor, sounds like a horror flick. LOL

      ".... with Bill Windsor, founder of LawlessAmerica.com and GRIP, and candidate for the U.S. House of Representatives."

      http://lawlessamerica.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=957:lawless-americathe-movie-day-3-of-143-3-states-down-47-to-go&catid=133:lawless-america-the-movie&Itemid=105


      William Windsor's Overview
      Current Chief Activist at Lawless America

      http://www.linkedin.com/in/williammichaelwindsor

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    3. Sure. You're obviously right, Ninja, about the "semantic billcrap": these distinctions clearly mean a lot to Windsor. The vast majority of his whining about the Maid case and how dishonest Maid, its lawyers, and the judges who ruled against him supposedly are is actually, at its foundation, all about stupid and pragmatically meaningless semantic issues.

      I think, in Windsor's head, he has convinced himself that he's insulated himself from consequences stemming from his schemes by making himself something other than the technical "owner" of LA, or something other than an officer or director or employee of Alcatraz, and so on. He thinks those kinds of technicalities, which he appears to have intentionally constructed, mean that he can't be touched when it turns out that the stuff that he did on behalf of one of these entities turns out to be dishonest, tortious, or even criminal.

      But he's wrong—and when an opposing attorney or a judge sees through his meaningless semantic smokescreens and calls out his misconduct for what it is, that does not make the attorney or judge guilty of perjury or obstruction of justice (or treason!), as Windsor constantly hollers.

      Anyway, I think the key point you've hit on is that one important element in Windsor's idiocy is his obsessive focus on technical terminology (such as "power of attorney," which Windsor just can't bring himself to accept doesn't mean what he thinks it means) that blinds him to how law in the real world actually does, and should, work.

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    4. "Windsor's attitude toward inconvenient facts in microcosm"

      very pithy, and accurate, I guess that's why you do this for a living

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    5. Well, we can't let lawlessnomore take all the writin' prizes.

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    6. LOL Ginger!! Yes, this is why it's fun to have Attorney posting here!!

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    7. That's true, she is the lead pony at this point

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    8. Oh Billy, Billy, don't you know the truth never changes? Why would he have to worry about perjuring himself just because he doesn't have the original documents? If I did my tax return in January and then did it again in April, it would still be the same. I can get the same documents and arrive at the same numbers. Say I even forgot something I initially claimed as a deduction, if somebody pointed it out to me, I'd just go find the document that I'd forgotten to include. No harm. No foul . . . . now of course if I lied and needed the documents to keep my story straight . . . then I might claim what Bill is claiming.

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    9. Thank you once again Attorney for taking the time to break it all down & explain this in "layman's terms".

      The Barbara bit really fascinates me to no end. I could not live my life with a husband like Windsor who appears to me to have many qualities of a sociopath. She's either under his complete control or she's a willing accomplice. If it's the latter, IMO she is as heartless as he is, not caring how his actions continue to hurt so many. I don't know how people like this sleep at night.

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    10. @ Attorney: Hey!!! Lols, thanks and thank you for your updates.

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    11. Bill acts just like the crooks I have to negotiate with in my job. On offense: all bullying tactics apply, morals, ethics and common decency do not apply, throw any and all lies at the wall to see what sticks, regardless of who knows the truth, who may be hurt or what law is broken. On defense: act indignant at any hint of impropriety, become hostile if challenged, stall, use semantics, play shell games, change the rules, make stuff up, twist the truth, use innocent people as leverage or to fight the battle, confuse the enemy so maybe they give up and go home. No negotiation is ever "final", every "agreement" must be re-negotiated several times.

      My point is, holding Bill accountable for anything he does or says is like nailing jello to the floor - he is an accomplished wiggler. Unless you are getting paid to argue with him or just enjoy that kind of adversity, it is probably time and cost effective to cut your losses and call it a day.

      As regards his marriage, I doubt the Mrs cares enough about what Bill is doing to engage in a cat fight. She's probably got something else going on. It appears to me that they've reached a point in their lives that the marriage is a matter of convenience or money.

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    12. I uber heart Attorney~
      I think another Tiara is in order! or something...Ginger?

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  22. Should I go to the Battered Mothers Custody Conference in DC on Mother's Day weekend?

    (No keep your fat ass out of DC. You know you won't go anyway, you have no purpose there, as you harm children by posting their parents personal information, and you said you would dance outside the court house when one mother loses custody. So, fuck off)


    An outrageous stalker has now set up a Facebook account in my name -- Bill Windsor. The page has a photo of my father on his death bed. Please report it to Facebook.

    (Actually the picture we saw was you in a tutu and holding a fairy wand if I remember right. Liar)


    Our friend, Naomi, has produced a video about her involvement with Allie Overstreet aka All-Lie Overstreet. Way back when, I asked Naomi to edit Allie Overstreet's video with changes that All-Lie requested. These changes were made promptly when requested by All-Lie, but she has, of course, lied about it by trying to portray that I somehow did something wrong by not editing the video in which she showed photos of her daughter and mentioned her name a number of times. I keep all emails, so I have this fully documented.

    (Hey um pie-douche, when you verbally state to people you film, that you will edit them, and have them verified BEFORE you post them, you lied. You didn't edit any of them. So again, you lied, and Naomi probably only got the request from you after Allie was served because of your unedited video)

    Carry on, go screw your RV, it's waiting.


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    1. @ anon 6:50, agree agree agree.

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    2. I filmed on October 31, 2012. I asked him to bleep out stuff and he promised to on October 31, 2012. The video (one, not all three) was edited a few months ago not "way back when". I will dig through my messages for the date, but I'm pretty sure it was February. A man I have only met once, was there in the room with us when he promised not to publish them until he edited out my daughter. That man has since written a sworn and notarized statement of such. Bill Windsor goes around lying about people and saying they are the ones lying. It is exhausting.

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    3. Yep, I feel ya. I know he's done that to numerous people and that is part of the reason I think some got booted. He didn't want to edit, it would be too much like work. He has no idea what he's doing, and then when people started asking where their videos were, he panicked and got the volunteers to upload them.

      This is the same basic thing with the receipts I am sure. He can't keep anything straight, he has a horrible memory, and doesn't keep records. He never intended on editing anything, if he did, he would have gotten on the same tape and said, edit out...just as a reminder to himself.

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    4. He even lost my signed release LMAO. So him posting me holding a piece of paper saying it was my release really means nothing unless he can produce the actual release. Dippyweed doodoo head. Yep been around kids too much today but its all good ;-)

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  23. Battered mothers conference.....Gawd, talk about infiltration. Like a drug dealer going to a narcotics anonymous meeting or a Pie man going to a weight watchers camp.

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    1. OMG really! Could you imagine the spin he would put on it? All those mothers chanting and protesting. He'd be filming away, then go back and spin it into the largest group of men haters, regardless of the circumstances.

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    2. The Citizens Hearing on (alien) Disclosure will be held at the National Press Club in D.C. from 4/29-5/3. Testimony by top level witness will be given and filmed for a movie. Maybe Bill should go and take notes on how it's done. ;)
      http://www.citizenhearing.org/

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  24. Am I the only one that giggles every time he says he is going to consummate the RV?

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    1. LOL NOPE!! It's funny as hell. Who says that about a vehicle? LMAO!!

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    2. Here, a new post. Same creepy comment again. BTW Is he back in your neck of the woods too? Creeper!!

      4-18-2013 - 6:45 PM: I made it safe and sound to the Kansas City, Missouri area. It rained VERY HEAVILY for most of the day. I saw a lot of creeks that overflowed and filled neighboring farmland with water so the fields looked like giant lakes. Tomorrow, I go inspect the RV and consummate the deal if all looks good.

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    3. Creepy is right Ninja. Ginger mentioned earlier (above 3:56) how he was seen driving by her house again this morning.

      What a psychopath.

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    4. He keeps going back and his followers are ok with this documented stalking? That is creepy.

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    5. His obsession with her, is really blatant. His continuous articles as well, like creepy, high school nerd, fixated on the cheerleader who doesn't acknowledge him kind a thing. Bill Vexi-Creeper Windsor.

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    6. I'm curious. If the donation for the RV is in New York, and the pictures of the RV are in Illinois, and he resides in Georgia, why is he "consummating" in Kansas City?

      And FYI, my home is an hour and a half from KC with no RVs.

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    7. Who's going to drive Windsor home? If history is a guide, *everything* Windsor claims is a fact...ISN'T.

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    8. It has been theorized that he can't purchase one without a license and that he doeesn't have a license to legally drive the thing. I have wondered if he has any health issues which would prevent him from obtaining such a license. That may be why he waited so long to have one donated to him, or perhaps by purchasing in a different state he can go around the laws in his home state?

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  25. Oh that Witch Naomi, she did a video about AMPP too. Based again only one Windsors whining. WHO is this woman???

    (Spew alert)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJXQlGVO09I

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    1. Well, well, well, check out her testimony. Naomi Parrish is the name she uses on the youtube. Why should we believe her? What makes her credible???

      (He probably promised to edit hers too)

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nor1MQaZm_Q

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    2. Ohhhhhhhh so she proclaims she is the FIRST person to ever trash a judge online? She sure thinks highly of herself. Her and Bitler are a good match.

      All I hear is babbling. She doesn't even seem distraught in the least about not having her daughter with her but is upset the child doesn't know english. Pretty much goes with the territory of living in France. I'm certain I came across her story a few years back while watching Bedwell's false accusations play out across the net.

      Thanks for posting this Ninja. I didn't think about going to find her own Lawless vid.

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    3. Wonder what she'd do if the internet goons harrassed her and Billy turned on her based on some strangers bullshit lies and people made vids of what a liar she is and the mental disorders they thought she had and picked her testimony vid apart and that kid crying in the background got talked about all over the web and she lost the kid due to it. Just wondering, not wishing.

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    4. You know Allie, I forgot to comment on that portion. She looks annoyed with the crying baby, I think about 2mins into the video. Why not stop filming and comfort the child.

      You've got a blockbuster of a movie BigBellyBillyBoy!!!!

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    5. LOL Ya, I thought that too. A few times she looked over at the crying baby and it threw her. She had darts in her eyes at one point, and I think she even said like "ok" or something, very intolerant.

      That's what I meant by he probably said he would edit her video. He probably said keep going. By the way she was looking that direction, it didn't seem like it was her kid, and she seems like she has zero motherly instincts to be concerned or caring enough towards an upset child, let alone anyone else.

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    6. Naomi is posting under 3 different last names? Parrish, Chambers & Gutierrez?

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    7. Chambers? didn't know that one

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  26. Mary Deneen
    Alli-lies assoc w/ Boushie, Malicious-Fraud-False Accusations and Statements (w Long-Knife Threats) "Don't you still have another Kid to try and Kill!!!" --Further, w serial death threats against Bill, and his family by Boushie, of which Alli had prior knowledge.
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    Do you guys know how hard it is to not comment on some of this shit? Lordy, where do they even dream the shit up at?

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    1. LOL I know. I start typing, and the stop. I really want to tell that MaryD to STFU and stop posting the same nauseating crap over and over. Munchausen Mary is FB friends with Crystal Cox, who has a history of sending emails to people as other people.

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    2. Oh come on All-lies... You know we are in this together. I recruited you as a paid gubermint instigator for the pie I A.

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    3. Oooh, that's right. All the secret debriefing meetings made me forget for a minute.

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    4. Ok. I've had it with y'all. If I don't see my cheque (check) by the end of the month, I'm going to expose all of you in a major unedited youtube video. Boushie won't even have feet when I'm done with him.

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    5. BTW, I don't believe Billy has (c)'d All-lies (c) yet. Petunia is probably sleeping so I will take her (c) and copyright All-lies (c) now for Allie in the event she becomes a (TM) and has to take Billy to court.

      Also while I'm thinking of it, Brannon and I had big plans for our SlanderfellaTheMovie.com and SlanderEllaTheMovie.com websites. WTH happened to Windsors plans for those movies? He wouldn't be lying would he?

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    6. Is that a death threat?? It sounds like a death threat... That's it!! I'm calling the fbi and filing a criminal complaint!! Then I'm going sown to the bar and get a bunch of my juror buddies and we are going to have a grand jury trial right there in the bar.
      So take off yappy!! Hoser. I'm going to get my 4" killing tool and I'm coming for ya!

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    7. To quote All-lies (c) Pffffft.

      All 4" inches eh? Quite the killing tool you have there littlefoot. Once again, my condolences to your wife.

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    8. I'm going to ask MaryD to protect help me.

      Tick Tick Tick

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    9. Well... Phhhhfffttt erght back at cha. 4" yep, 4" moarter is plenty for me, big boom.

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    10. Ok tinyfeetnhands, I give!!! You win by default only because I refuse to return to any land with snow.

      I see why Billy hates you so much, you're packing heat and he's not! Poor little big fat dude. We should take pity on him and fundraise for a "prosthetic" attachment. Maybe then he wouldn't feel the need to consummate any and all moving objects in his path.

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    11. LOL....I win. Yaaaaaaaaaaa.
      It was 12 and snowing yesterday.I stayed in and made killin tools in preperation for Bitler's visit.

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    12. LOL you make your own killing tools? I'm just planning on having a bunch of bikers block the road if he heads my way :D. I live at a "dead end" road. hehehehe

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    13. Of course I do!! I work for this guy, http://www.montanaamericana.com/knivesunder100.html

      Plus muzzleloaders, cannons, 1911's, ar 15 customs, and reloading deadly ammunishion.

      Oh and the bows and arrows, Bitler is very very skert of the bows and arrows...

      Dead end road here too, Ive already got the lot lizard express custom RV trap all set up... He wont know what hit him!

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  27. Julie Tinsman > Lawless America
    47 minutes ago · 
    Hi, someone recommended that I check out this site. Can someone give me a quick run down explaining how this works? — at Paradise, Nevada.
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    Any volunteers?

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    2. Liz Ardpie It's really very simple. Bill will video your story & put it on youtube. He will then ask you for a donation to help him fund his trip around America filming other people. After several months you will notice that he really isn't doing anything to help your case.If you question him in any way,he will kick you out of his non existant movie & block you.After that he will post all of your public info online including your address and info about your kids.If you really make him mad,he'll drive by your house and take pics to post online as well. He will interfere in your case against you if possible.He'll stalk you endlessly and come up with as many lies about you as possible.It's all been documented for anyone to read. Just do some research about Bill Windsor. You can start with the Joeysalittlekid.blogspot.com. All I can say is Bing that s***.
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    3. Don't know how long it will last. Hope she sees it before he does.

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    4. Oh darn, you just lost another fb profile :-( oh well another one where that came from right?

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    5. @ Liz - good job, LMAO. Post is still there as of now. If you make another run at it, don't forget to mention to Julie that she will be expected to volunteer for the revolution and write at least 16 letters before June.

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    6. Julie Tinsman apparently read and liked the comment by Liz.

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    7. It looks like Liz made it in & back out without getting blocked. She deleted the comment before Bill saw it so she lives to comment another day. Very happy for her!

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    8. You go Liz!!!! You are an awesome little lemming trooper :-)

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  28. From Wikipedia (concerning CONSUMMATION): "Thus some theologians, such as Fr. John A. Hardon, S.J., state that intercourse with contraception does not consummate a marriage." So, if Willy's willy fills a silly wooly with fizzy jizzy while funkin' the trunk of the horny adorned ebony lawless unicorn, then Rodeo Billybobby be ridin' bronco whore to baltimore in fornicopulation amore. (I just like to have fun while rhyming) He is Freakin' weird at the least, for just using that word! I think someone should draw or make a video of him humping his RV. LOL.

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      Okay then :-) that was.....

      different?

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    2. Willy's willy fills a silly wooly with fizzy jizzy

      I'm going to need long-term therapy after reading this. :(

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  29. Well Geez, I really HATE to pre-judge Naomi Parrish/Chambers/ Gutierrez BUT LOOK what I found??


    Target: Judge Lyles is responsible for a child having been abandonned in France

    Naomi Parrish, mother of Celine, notified Judge Esther Wiggins Lyles in testimony, during the discovery process, and in writing that her daughter was in danger of being a victim of aduction and abandoment. Judge Lyles refused to believe her because the mother had worked in adult entertainment in the past.


    There wouldn't be ANY reason in the mother's past why this child was removed from her? Excuse me for being a prude but WHAT type of adult entertainment was Naomi involved in? Inquiry minds want to know before I go and make ASSumptions. Just curious..........

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    1. WoW! Look at all the petition signatures supporting Naomi.

      http://oi46.tinypic.com/332pamb.jpg

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    2. Umm zero? And did you see that baby einstein also caused her to lose her child?

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    3. Is "Chambers" the porn name? LOL

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    4. Bill got him a porn star??? Won't be long until she becomes his official editer and starts traveling with him. Plenty of closed door "production" meetings I'm sure. She can teach him about flattering camera angles!!

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    5. She has some "issues" that's for sure. Like Bill likes pie, seems to hate women, because perhaps he wants to be one, I think she wants a penis. In one of her numerous Youtube videos she says this...

      "Because of these gender stereotypes, Men can not live as freely as they should"

      http://www.youtube.com/user/NaomiChambers/videos

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    6. OK then. Thinking I might save the 'other side of the story' I was working on to start researching this one:

      http://www.myspace.com/519913588/blog

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    7. Oh hell ya NBTDT!! She is all kinds of twisted. That profile doesn't comport to her professed views in her other youtube videos. She is a poser, a chameleon, to fit into whatever situation will get her more attention.

      Interesting that it sounds like she didn't like to be attacked, but attacks numerous people out of no where for Bill.

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    8. Oh, Ninja - I'm finding some really good stuff. Stay tuned.......

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    9. I can't wait. Wonder if Bill knows, and is why she's so important to him. LOL poor Desiree. LMAO
      Naomi Lynn Parrish prostitute brings up fun stuff. Can't wait for your findings!

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    10. I'm thinkin right about now, knowing that a former/current(?) prostitute standing up, defending Bill in a video, slamming Allie's credibility, has somehow become less hurtful, and more laughable. Kind of like when Yappy found the real back story on Snooty, just makes it all irrelevant as they have no credibility of their own.

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    11. There is some really interesting stuff Ninja. NBTDT is getting all kinds of goodies ready :D lol

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  30. OK NBTDT please hurry we are all on pins and needles lol

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