Friday, January 4, 2013

Is Joey Dauben Free Already?

So that is what the Daubenista's are triumphantly proclaiming. They say he got out last week. They think he is going to get off on the Navarro charges with just a slap on the wrist. They also think Wilson is being investigated and that his Ellis conviction will be ultimately overturned. Very odd that no one, including Webb himself who seems giddy with excitement of his boy returning to him, is coving any of this. Certainly I will cover it, but the questions must be asked:

-How did he make bail
-Why is he feeling confident about the Navarro trial
-What is Wilson being investigated for and by whom
-Does Presley still love him now that she is actually with him
-Why do they think the Ellis conviction will be overturned

198 comments:

  1. NothingbettertodotodayJanuary 4, 2013 at 11:25 AM

    Gosh, it got awfully quiet in here.....

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  2. Because no on cares about Joey

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  3. "including Webb himself who seems giddy with excitement of his boy returning to him"

    Uh, he's never been with me so how could he be returning to me? But beyond that, what about your ineptness?

    You've been making a total ass of yourself for almost two weeks commenting that Joey Dauben is sitting in jail while he was actually out on bail. You criticize everyone else for being stupid while you show yourself to be an utter idiot in everything you write.

    Joey Dauben is the subject of your blog, but you can't even keep track of whether he is in jail or not. A simple call to jail information or the court handling his case could have provided you with that information. Yet you criticize me and everyone else for their reporting skills?

    If anyone is giddy it has been you exploiting Lawless America and Bill Windsor to gain traffic for your pathetic little blog. You are a cowardly useless individual, whomever you are, shepherding an equally useless and cowardly group of people who serve no other purpose than to harm others.

    You and your cohorts are still bitching about your previous website being shut down because you were revealed for the slime you are. The complaint brought attention to the hateful language that you use every day to attack others. What miserable creeps in real life you must all be. Of course, we can't see that because you hide behind pseudonyms.

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    1. NothingbettertodotodayJanuary 4, 2013 at 1:03 PM

      Wow. You should tell us how you really feel.

      In addition to name calling and obvious misstatements in your diatribe, you really are pissing on the wrong tree if you believe Gingersnap is shepherding any of us.

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    2. What the heck happened? I thought this was the place for Joey news. Has he been out for two weeks and the regulars here missed it? How? He's getting less than probation? Why haven't any of you guys said anything? Everyone here said Joey was going to be convicted of CHILD RAPE, hands down, and he'd serve a long jail sentence. Now he's not?????

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    3. LOL, oh webby, do you really think Ginger should have been calling the jail daily to check and see if Joey is in jail???

      LMAO- it's called life outside this blog. We all have one.

      Pfft, why would Ginger need to drive up page hits by talking about Bill Windsor and Lawless America. We just find them interesting in their insanity and ancillary involvement due to their previous support of Joey and Presley. And of course the pies.

      There is no rule in place that I am aware of limiting the content of the posts and comments on this blog. Ginger can correct my if I am wrong.

      And Webb, that would be like saying you should limit all your posts on your site too. Although I notice you really don't get traffic, and definitely don't get comments. Are you jealous?

      We are not herded, we are here voluntarily talking amongst ourselves and whomever stops on by and wants to comment. Don't like that either? This is the freedom of speech you think Joey is being denied, less all of Joey's lies and threats of course.





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    4. Anon, Joey is apparently out on bail. His trial begins next week I believe. The jury will hear the case and make a determination of guilt. None of us know the details of the evidence, we will all have to wait and see how this plays out. Pretty sure that fact has been stated repeatedly.

      Joey is a convicted felon. Different charges, different county, different jury and judge.

      LOL, and no way does anyone know what sentence Joey will get if he is convicted. There are possibilities based on charges, but those are only guidelines. Being a convicted felon already doesn't help joey.



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    5. @ Oceans: Absolutely I would expect a reporter to check to make sure someone is actually in jail every single time it is written that they are, when there is a possibility of release on bond.

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    6. Okay Webby, so why didn't you report it? LOL, and who says Ginger is a reporter?? It's called Blogging - it's people who write about whatever they want.

      LOL, so do tell, who raised the bail money for Joey? Was it an early Christmas present, or late Hanukkah present? Why didn't you report on it yourself Mr. Webb-I-am-still-a-journalist???

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    7. I have long said that my next report on Joey Dauben would be his trial in Navarro County. Contrary to the lies that have repeatedly been told about me on this blog, I do not have a personal relationship with him. I have no agenda other than reporting about a case that has interested a lot of people, including me, because of his high-profile in the blogging world and in the newspapers he sometimes printed.

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    8. David, I do enjoy chatting with you. I personally don't believe everything I read on blogs. I am among those who feel cross checking is important, and the use of credible sources in my research. I have a right to my opinions and to comment about them.

      I could care less if you do, or ever have had a relationship with Joey. I do believe you when you talk about having lunch with him, and about your feelings about his version of events and credibility. I may question your opinion of Joey, but not your feelings. Only you know those.

      It would seem that as part of your coverage of Joey and his trial, you might have wanted to blog about it. Your call.

      However, I find your desire to come on this blog and not mention that Joey was out on bail, and instead pull the 'I know something you don't know' card as childish. And while that is only my opinion, it does tend to drop my overall estimation of your own credibility and motivations.

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    9. Who the heck gives a rats behind what your estimation is? Funny funny funny!!

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    10. does ginger take pictures? as in photography

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    11. Huh? You are going to have to put more specific words into that statement for me to be able to answer it. But I do have a question for you. You said that we attacked a friend of yours, who is the friend that was attacked?

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  4. Since you asked, I will tell you how I really feel. People who don't know what they are doing shouldn't be playing reporter. Journalism 101, Cops & Robbers: Don't report that someone is in jail without first checking to make sure they are. Same course, don't accuse people of filing complaints (ie. one that got a blog shutdown) unless you can prove it was them. That can't be done in this case because I didn't do it, but I understand someone has taken responsibility for it. Journalism 202: Don't accuse people of romantic involvements, particularly when it involves someone's professional work, unless you have proof. Finally, don't assume that a pseudonym or "anonymous" will protect you from civil litigation involving libel, slander and defamation.

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    1. You make Daddy Dauben look like a Rhodes Scholar. You really are an exceptionally stupid individual. I am not playing reporter. I am a blogger and I'm very open an honest about that fact. You and your buddy Joey DO play reporter in that you both pretend you are a part of an actual news organization when in fact you are both just a simple blogger like myself. Look, you still even have it in your name, the rare reporter, well the only thing rare in your reporting is actual facts.

      If Joey got out of jail then a real reporter should probably cover that. I'm not one, I dont pretend to be one, I have a real life and this is just a hobby. Your obsession with both Joey and this site is pretty obvious to everyone as you alternate back in forth between posting anon and as therarerporter at literally all hours of the night. You have slandered everyone that posts on here, you have threaten most everyone on here yet you continue to try and play the victim card against us. No one is messing with you over at your blog, or your reader. No one is stalking you. No one would ever care that you exist except for the fact that you keep sticking your nose right back in the middle of this "snake pit" as you called it to your reader on your blog.

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    2. Ginger Snap is having a hissy fit. And relying on recycled BS again. Love the revisionist history touch, too!

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    3. Rarereporter...the reading of all this how you should report and the answer of why we don't banter reads like an argument between NPR and Fox news. You each see different parts of the elephant and then report on it. Lift up that tail, study it close and tell us what you see.

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    4. The lifting up the elephant tail reference is a metaphor for the reading audience to study Ginger Snap's blog closely.

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  5. "...exploiting Lawless America and Bill Windsor to gain traffic for your pathetic little blog. You are a cowardly useless individual, whomever you are, shepherding an equally useless and cowardly group of people who serve no other purpose than to harm others."

    If I didn't know better, I would say you did a copy and paste job of something posted about Dauben's own existence. You have the nerve to talk about this blog in this manner when your little "journalism partner" did 100x worse in the shit he pulled.

    I don't recall Gingersnap's blog ever posting photos of children. I don't recall Gingersnap ever posting photos of children holding dildo's. I don't recall this blog from ever posting photos of people claiming they were sexually abusing children without any evidence. All I see is this blog providing color commentary that initially was all Dauben and his nutjob supporters...which now includes you.

    As far as I can tell this blog gives opinions and viewpoints of how f'd up some of the people in the world are. Anyone that can look at Dauben and call him a publisher probably should have retired from being a journalist. It's entertaining to read about the antics of the wacko's that Dauben draws in. Farris, Bedwell, Ryder, Windsor and Bill's ex-recently adopted daughter all have gained much needed attention due to this blog.

    AND...who really cares if the little freakshow is out of jail. It won't be something that will last, kind of like his political/journalist/church counselor career. He can always go back to parking cars at baseball games since he does have a history with the Texas Rangers, in more ways than one.

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    1. @ Anonymous: Regardless of what Joey Dauben did, it doesn't give anyone else license to libel and defame. He is already paying the price for his mistakes. The issue is the here and now and what is being done on this blog, which has already been shut down once for hate speech.

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    2. NothingbettertodotodayJanuary 4, 2013 at 2:04 PM

      Yeah!! What you said!!

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    3. NothingbettertodotodayJanuary 4, 2013 at 2:06 PM

      Whoa - David posted before I hit enter. I meant to ditto what Anon posted. Very well said.

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    4. Freudian slip. That's okay, NBTDT.

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    5. LOL, oh Mr.Webb-ster, it's not libel or defamation. And you know it if you really think about it. Joey is a convicted felon who until his recent release had been sitting in jail, awaiting his next trial.

      There is no reputation being damaged by our freedom of speech rights to have an opinion and discuss this. There is no defamation or loss of income for Joey.

      There was not then, and is not now any HATE SPEECH. You know this, we know this, and yet you still want to try to stir it up and pretend that there is.

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    6. Rationalizing much? LMAO!!!!

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    7. @ Oceans: I'm not claiming Joey Dauben was defamed. I have been. In regard to Joey, I was pointing out how sloppy and careless with the facts all of you are.

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    8. Nope, not rationalizing. It is my opinion. Based on research that includes Joey's own writings, and history. Based on the statements of Joey's victims, based on those he associates with. I know quite a bit about Joey and friends.

      The damage to Joey was done by Joey. Having an opinion and commenting on it is not LIBEL or DEFAMATION. Those are legal terms, look them up.

      There is no hate speech going on here. You can try to say there is all you want. There is none. Would you like to provide an example?
      Hint- just because the subject/person would not like it does not make it hate speech.

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    9. I guess David that I missed this alleged defamation. Still stand by my above statement about the allegatons of defamation by anyone. It is a legal term in most usages.

      If you want to say your feelings were hurt or you were insulted, then I will agree. They were, and you are. But defamation is a whole other level in my opinion.

      You know this blog is very small, and you know that there is no one attacking you, stalking you , or even paying much attention to you unless you actually show up here.

      It's your choice to come visit and to post. If you do not like it, why do you come here? You have in the past admitted you do it to stir it up. Also your choice.

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    10. I don't think you have been David. Your behaviour has been less that honorable here. You came here trying to stir things up by your own admission. Calling you biased does not defame you. You may not see it, but you obviously have a soft spot in your heart for Joey.

      Some people here speak in hyperbole and it's obvious. No reasonable person could conclude that the over the top comments are facts. They are obviously opinions.

      Oh and it's funny how yesterday you said you'd publish things and if they weren't right, you'd correct them when you know better. Well, Ginger made the correction.

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    11. OR's been trying desperately to do research. LOL, you can't go back now.

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    12. Webb, why is this LOL funny to you? I don't get you.

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    13. Are you saying it's over your head?

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    14. 4:19 anon what research exactly is it you think I'm doing?

      4:26 anon, I don't think 4:19 anon is Webb, Webb doesn't LOL. I think this is another little troll. This is an angry immature one . . . probably couldn't hold a job more than say . . a waitress?

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    15. So you're not doing research? Are you thinking of leaving a tip?

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    16. Again I ask, what would I be researching?

      I'm not a big fan of bar food.

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    17. No tip? I was expecting at least 18%. Oh well. What research are you doing?

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    18. An 18% tip is reserved for mediocre to poor service. So, perhaps. C level service will get you an easy 20%, but that's not really a lot of money when you're talking about a burger and fries.

      Maybe you have me confused with Webb. He's the rarereporter.

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    19. The rarereporter is a burger and fries waitress too? How does that work with him being gay? Is he a drag queen?

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    20. oh hun, it's ok. you are all mixed up now.

      The rarereporter is/was a reporter.
      The OReader is just a reader here.
      I just took a wild guess which of our little anons is best suited to be a waitress.

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  6. So any news organizations(not bloggers) who reported that joey was in jail are who you should be bitching to. This is a blog, not a news organization, and Ginger is not, and has not claimed to be a 'reporter'. That would be where you come in...you do claim to be at least a former journalist. How come you,who have reported on Joey before have not reported on his current status???

    LMAO- romantic involvement as a defamation?? You seriously think that??? Wow, you really don't like Joey!

    Dude, you need to realize people can have opinions about who shut the old blog down, and you are right, only the person who did complain and Wordpress will ever know for sure. Who cares?

    LOL, now I understand why your panties are always in a bunch...time to buy a bigger size and let it go Mr. Webb. (hug) let it go and move on.

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  7. Who reported that Joey was in jail still? Nobody's been saying nothing, news organizations or bloggers. Except you guys. You said Joey was still in jail with his crayons. But he's not. Didn't anybody at least check? WOW.

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    1. LMAO- oh Anon, you are funny!!!

      This is not a serious post is it? and WOW right back at ya...

      Joey had been in jail for a long time, and reporters like Mr. Webb did not report on his being bailed out while awaiting his next trial. Blame them,not us if Joey isn't news worthy enough. I am sure that will change next week when his trial begins.

      face it, Joey is a has been, not all that important to anyone who is not the victim of his abuse online, or in the upcoming trial, sexually.

      There are plenty of people who Joey hurt with the lies and crap he posted for page hits(by his own admission in his *ahem* book).

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    2. NothingbettertodotodayJanuary 4, 2013 at 2:39 PM

      Nobody here is stalking Joey, nobody here (except Webby) claims to be a reporter, local mainstream media hasn't reported it and we're sort of out of the loop on family gossip - so how/why would we know if Joey is out of jail? If Joey is out, it looks he and his family are FINALLY doing something smart, keeping a low profile and away from the internet.

      I don't understand why you and Webb are crawling all up in Gingersnap's business about it.

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    3. You'd all know by maybe making a phone call to the jail? Just to make sure before saying that he's still there?

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    4. The Ellis County Times said to come here for updates too.

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    5. Who wants to waste the time to find out? If he is out, he's probably read this blog, little puke can't help himself.
      SC

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    6. NothingbettertodotodayJanuary 4, 2013 at 2:54 PM

      OMG! How disappointed you must be, in finding out something you read on the Ellis County Times blog wasn't correct.

      If you wanted to know so badly why didn't YOU call the jail?

      Like I said, nobody here is stalking him.

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    7. Did you depend on Ginger Snap too, NBTDT? Looks like you all did, and now ya'll are trying to CYA for each other.

      LOL!!!!

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    8. What they hell are you talking about anon? You act as if superman has just returned and is about to vanquish his enemies to eternal hell-fire or something. If Joey got out, great, bring it on. I get bored without him.

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    9. Anon, OMG ROFLMAO- so you are really upset? And that's because the Ellis County Times said you should check here????

      LOL LOL, are you kidding??? OMG hahahhahhaaaaa

      Thanks for that laugh. And no one depends on the others here for facts, we all know how to use google, and we all know that there is no reason to call the jail to be sure Joey is still in it. We are however waiting for the trial to begin next week.

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  8. I think David is just angry that Ginger was commenting on Bill Windsor and not Joey when Joey supposedly got out. He probably thought he'd sit back and wait for Ginger to post and end of the year wrap up that specifically said Joey was spending New Years sitting in jail. But, with all the commotion between LA & AMPP, that didn't happen. I think David is upset. He had this great plan and it kind of fizzled. He tried to be a little trolly troll and drop some hints and call people names. Yes, it was so obviously you Webb. You thought you'd stir up some more trouble, but it didn't really escalate the way you'd wished. And finally, you couldn't wait any longer because you knew we'd find out for ourselves and you'd miss your opportunity. Too bad for you Webby, this bomb is still a dud.

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  9. Its amazing how the Daubenistas try and continue to come and attack this blog for its poor journalism when I have made it explicitly clear from day one that this is just a blog and these are only our opinions. Nothing more nothing less.

    Second, they assume that there was some preamble that I made for this blog that it would be devoted to one and only one thing, the destruction of Joey Dauben. Once again, that doesn't exist.

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    1. But then again, if they came on here with the correct information and understand the difference between a journalist and a blogger, then they wouldn't be a daubenista, so I guess I should expect that.

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    2. You're right, Ginger Snap, you've devoted this blog to destroying MANY people, not just Joey Dauben.

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    3. Commentary and discussion is not destructive. The people we talk about all seem to self destruct quite well all by themselves.

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    4. Oh for f**** sake, there is no destruction of anyone going on here. Joey is being discussed here and it's based on what Joey has done, and what charges Joey has been convicted of, and is facing.

      The Lawless America fiasco is being discussed because of their own stupidity and actions too.

      Get over it, it's a Blog, if you don't like it, find another one.

      I have the right to talk about whatever I want to, especially when it is based on facts and research. I can't help it if so many people around Joey are like this. I can't help it if his friends are like a circus act and keep doing things that make me want to discuss it with other observers.

      Get over it, or add to the conversation with actual examples of said destruction of people.

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    5. Yes we have been very critical (there is the word that seems to escape both yours and David's lexicon) of people who have devoted their lives to a public campaign of slandering other people. Being critical does not equal slander and defamation, no matter how much you might wish it did, being critical just means being critical.

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    6. So you just help them out like the good Samaritan that you are? You point out the err of their ways and guide them in the right direction? How kind of you.

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    7. Hey if they would like to take the advice then I'm sure their lives would improve, but its up to them. Until then we will continue to monitor what they say.

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    8. oh Anon, can I buy a clue? I have no idea what you are talking about with the 'You point out the err of their ways and guide them in the right direction? '

      Although Ginger may in fact be a good Samaritan. I don't know Ginger personally.

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    9. Your problem with not having a clue occurs often, Oceans. Do you think readers haven't noticed your fall-back position?

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  10. NothingbettertodotodayJanuary 4, 2013 at 3:14 PM

    @ Anon (the idiot one):

    "Did you depend on Ginger Snap too, NBTDT?"

    That comment reveals just how ignorant and well read you really are. We all SHARE information, unselfishly, as we find it for ourselves.

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  11. Name-calling. How mundanely predictable.

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    1. Oh my Anon, I missed it,where is the name calling???????

      I see actual conversation and opinions, but dang it all I missed the name calling. Help me out here, please ???

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    2. NothingbettertodotodayJanuary 4, 2013 at 3:30 PM

      I didn't call you names. I made observations.

      Try putting initials or some kind of identifier on your posts if you are going to post as Anon. There are too many Anons - I used the only identifier I could think of at the time in order to make a clear distinction between posts made by Anon. If you had had something intelligent to say, I would have said "the smart one".

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    3. LOL, I love the way you think NBTDT !!

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    4. So predictable. We said so. Therefore nothing else exists. Good thing your readers can see for themselves.

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  12. This David Webb person is a journalist? Is that real or another Joey journalist degree?

    I am wondering why a journalist would be so giddy over a child molester being freed to roam Texas?

    Is Webb a pervert? It is revolting to read this blog. I find this disgusting. Pervert. Get help.

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    1. Has anyone completely a background check on David Webb? What County does he live in? Where is a link for the Sex Offender Registry?

      Why is he giddy?
      Pervert.

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    2. I'm wondering, too.

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    3. Maybe Ginger Snap would like to explain the giddy connotation to Anon. Errr....it's just opinion and commentary, isn't it?

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    4. LOL, we don't run background checks here. If you want to know about David Webb, you can research it yourself. He has his own website, but he likes to visit here once in a while.

      I have no idea how you just jumped so many conclusions about Webby, but if you'd like to explain I'll listen.

      Critical thought and actual facts help.

      Although, any joy over Joey being released is probably over rated. He starts into his trial next week. In the mean time he has to stay off the internet for how many years???

      So Joey's access to harm people is minimized. He hasn't yet been convicted on the Sexual assault of a minor. There are probably conditions to his current release that keep him away from minors as there were before his recent conviction as a felon.

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    5. NothingbettertodotodayJanuary 4, 2013 at 3:39 PM

      David Webb is a professional journalist. He is not a pervert, nor is he "giddy" about a child molester on the loose. The sexual orientation of anybody on this site is irrelevant.

      David is gloating because Joey was apparently bailed out of jail, he knew and we didn't. That's all there is too it. PERIOD.

      If you want to make something of it, other than what it is, please go to another site

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  13. So to sum up what David and the fellow Daubenistas on here are saying:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REeeucZtDY0

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    1. Where're they saying that?

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    2. where're? really, you substituted an apostrophe for one letter to make a non existent word?

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    3. Where are they saying that?

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  14. So as to the criticism about me knowing Joey Dauben was released and not telling anybody? Yes, I was aware of it, and I knew you weren't and were making stupid statements. So I tried to hint around for you to look for information because I didn't want to be a source. I'm a reporter. None of you, especially Ginger, had the motivation to do that.So I sent Ginger an e-mail last night offering to tell her what I knew. Here is the e-mail thread from last night and today:


    On Friday, 01/04/13 David Webb wrote:

    I don't think I need to answer that question. Your actions have already provided an answer.



    --- On Fri, 1/4/13, Ginger Snap wrote:

    From: Ginger Snap
    Subject: Re: Info
    To: "David Webb"
    Date: Friday, January 4, 2013, 3:17 PM

    I'm not calling you, how stupid do you think I am. If you think you know something say it or shut up.



    On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:59 PM, David Webb wrote:
    Call me now and I will tell you what the new information is. xxx-xxxx

    Sent from my iPad

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    1. Bawahaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!

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    2. LOL, David, why would anyone from this blog want to interact with you in real life? You seriously expected Ginger to provide you with a phone number/verbal conversations to appease your curiosity about who Ginger is??

      Oh David, I expected so much more from you. If you had information you could have shared it in the email, or on this blog.

      You just went down another point in my opinion of you. You failed at outing Ginger's real name yet again.

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    3. Ginger Snap, didn't your mama teach you any manners?????

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    4. what exactly was wrong with being the source? who cares. If he's out, he's out. Who cares who first made it public? And yeah, when you doing your little hinting about Garland and Midlothian and whatever, why is Ginger going to call you?

      Sorry, I don't read Topix. I've never found anything entertaining or intelligent on that site.

      You weren't "hinting" at something for days that was only put on Topix last night. And your hints weren't meant to direct. It was just a game.

      Like I said before, you wanted Ginger to post something explicitly saying Joey wrapped up the year in jail. The attention was redirected by Bill Windsors implosion, so it just your bomb wasn't nearly as explosive.

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    5. I agree NBTDT, except about the Joey being out of jail having some bombshell importance to anyone but Joey LOL

      And he can't report about it can he??

      Bill and his pie people were far more interesting to talk about as it unfolded and spun out of control. Joey is pretty much a non-issue since he was in limbo.

      LOL David, on most blogs people will correct omissions of details as part of the conversation. You knew Joey was out of jail, and wanted the exclusive. You thought you could entice Ginger into revealing real life info about Ginger in a phone call, and failed.

      Do you really think it matters to anyone if Joey is waiting in jail, or in his grandmother's house or elsewhere as long as he is not in violations of the terms of his bail?

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    6. According to your train of thought, it's okay to say someone is in jail when they're not. And to ignore any updates?

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    7. whoops, I meant Oreader.... :)

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    8. Oh no, David you didn't. You just revealed a private email exchange I had with you. You betrayed my trust and confidence in you as a highly respected journalist. Even more you have now outed me on my own blog and have shown that I speak privately just about exactly as I do publicly on my blog. Oh the shame, oh the humiliation. You are won wise whascaly whabbit.

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    9. Anon (According to your train of thought, it's okay to say someone is in jail when they're not. And to ignore any updates?)

      yes it is when that is the most current information being reported by main stream media. This is not a news outlet. It really doesn't change that Joey is a convicted felon for crimes against innocent people and his attempts to incite violence against people with web posts. Similar to how Bill Windsor instigating retaliation and harassment of people with his articles on his website and his FB. Bill included contact information and addresses too.

      Joey was convicted of this, and that is what applies. Joey is an object lesson in what not to do.

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    10. @ Ginger Snap: You previously posted one of our e-mail thread exchanges so that's hardly unprecedented on this blog.

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    11. Oh let's see anon. Loryn Ryder & Presley post statistics that are COMPLETELY WRONG and call them fact. The actual study and the actual numbers are provided to them, and they do not make changes. Um, how long were people reporting that Loryn Ryder was in jail when she wasn't. They reported that Loryn was in jail for being in the movie. Oh, and on Connie's blog, where do I start? Let's just go with a simple couple, people call her by her daughter's name and she doesn't correct them, and I saw somebody tell her that her daughter looked just like her when the picture they were referring to was Presley's sister. But Connie just says thanks. I'm just mentioning the negligent postings not the outright lies.

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    12. Oh and David are you serious? You can't tell sarcasm? Wow.

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    13. Yes I did but I'm not a reporter and neither ate you. So thanks for proving my point

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    14. I think it's safe to say that Oreader. David does not get sarcasm. I realize it is sometimes hard to tell in the form of written word, but Gee Dave, try to understand there is a lot of sarcasm included in many posts here.

      Have you really read the post here??? I would expect someone with a journalism degree and the higher education that includes as well as the career you had to be able to discern sarcasm. I could be wrong...and apparently by your above post I believe I am.

      Chill-ax Dave, we know your post of the emails is not upsetting anyone. Although, it does help prove the point about trying to get real life interaction with Ginger to find out if Ginger is male or female. Bummer it didn't work out for you huh?

      As I have said before, why on earth would it have to be a phone call when you were in contact via email???

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    15. So again, by your thought process, if others do things that you don't like, that gives you free rein to do the same? Monkey-see, monkey-do?

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    16. I am critical of people who slander others. You notice the difference? I don't slander those that slander others. I'm critical of them. Someday you guys might grasp this simple concept.

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    17. fundamentals are hard for this little anon

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    18. "I don't slander those that slander others." JOKE OF THE DAY!!!! Hmmmmm, note to Ginger Snap: Dress it up as being critical and it's okay. That's some concept. Did your mama teach you that, too?

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    19. did you know that the words critical and slander actually have two different meanings? Go do some study and see what you might learn.

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    20. Yep. Ginger Snap's condescending mode in action. Any questions?

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    21. Ahhh, condescending, that's an acceptable verb to describe my tone on this blog. Thank you for at least watching your words and avoiding unacceptable terms such as hate, slander, and defamatory.

      I will even give you a jump start on some other ones: belittling, demeaning, hairsplitting, overcritical, scolding and nit-picking. See, you guys are learning so much and you don't even know it. I'm proud of you.

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    22. I have your approval AND getting vocabulary lessons to boot! So have you found out for sure why your old blog was called a hate site?

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    23. No, I have no idea. I have moved on. What are you going to prance around with that little tidbit of info and try and taunt us with that now? "Ha ha, I know something you don't"

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  15. @Oceans: He could have blocked the phone number, which is what I expected him to do. I would have returned the phone call, but of course I am a real reporter. At any rate, a forensics investigation connected to another defamation lawsuit apparently has already identified Ginger Snap's identity. Since I have no idea who you are or what you are, Oceans, why would I care what your opinion of me is? Just another nameless sheeple, is what you are. BTW, Ginger, one of the key components of defamation is identification of the defamed so I haven't defamed anyone on this site. None of you have identities. It's just the herder and a bunch of sheeple as far as publication is concerned. Now of course a forensic investigation can reveal who all of you are as happened in the past with a blog visited by some of the people on this site. I notice by the way, I'm getting defamed again by terms such as "pervert" that Ginger is doing nothing to control even though he is the administrator. That's what got you shut down before. I'm not going to complain, but someone else might. If you people would quit talking about me, I can assure you that I would quit monitoring this site. But as long as you are going to continue making derogatory remarks about me and identifying me I will continue monitoring this site to protect my reputation. BTW, again, there are a lot of other people who do the same thing.

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    1. Oh David, I thought we were having a conversation. I realize that my opinions of you do not matter. I realize that I do not really care what you think of me either.

      I am not afraid of any 'forensic investigation' for any of my comments.

      It is sad that anyone would call you a pervert, and it reflects on them and their own inability to comprehend things. It is not the opinion being displayed in the comments of others who regularly post on this blog, and you know it.

      I thought you were a supporter of Freedom of Speech, as that is the argument you made about Joey and his posts.

      The right of ignorant anonymous bloggers to post crap about anyone here is pretty clear. Posts only get deleted for obscenity.

      Are your feelings hurt that we did not have your back strongly enough??
      Here you go- To the Anon poster who asked if Webb is a pervert:

      As far as I know, he is not. You have no basis to make that assumption. Your opinion does not agree with mine.

      Does that help?

      As far as Ginger calling you on the phone, why could you not just state your big scoop in the email? Why the heck would you need to get a phone call? What is your real motivation?

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  16. It is what it is. Joey Dauben quietly got out of jail a couple of weeks ago. Then the Lawless America war started up. Attention was focused on that, a great job, too. Dauben hardly merited a footnote during the crossfire. So Ginger Snap dropped the ball on Dauben's release and said he was still in jail. That was a mistake. Ginger Snap could of called Webb with a blocked number or a burner phone. No big deal. So let's stop with the excuses and call it, okay? How about an oversight?

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    1. Where did I say Joey was still in jail? You just said I dropped the ball by ignoring Joey during the ampp vs la war. So how can it be both?

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    2. Where is ignoring used?

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    3. Actually Anon, I would hope no one is crazy enough to actually call people on the phone that they meet or post with on the web.

      Burner phone or not. Webb was just dying to know if Ginger is male or female. I don't understand the fascination he has with Ginger though.

      Can you think of even one shred of a reason for it to have been necessary to do this by phone instead of email or comment on this blog?

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    4. NothingbettertodotodayJanuary 4, 2013 at 4:46 PM

      I'm all in for calling it, but it wasn't an oversight. As some of us appreciate David's journalistic view and nobody else was reporting on Joey's status, we have depended on David for news and status updates - before he even knew about us creepy people. David didn't report this, neither did any other news source or journalist. Unless Joey starts "publishing" again or his pending charges are resolved, his status was not nearly as interesting and entertaining as the LA/AMPP war.

      So, it is what is - quit crawling up Gingersnaps butt about it. As it is a slow day for the war, maybe those most interested can start digging around to find out what's going on with Joey. Then, share with us all....

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    5. The excuses are getting recycled, LOL.

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    6. Isn't/wasn't Buttercup Dauben in jail for exactly the same reasons Lunchbox Windsor SHOULD be for? I find that everything discussed here is relevant to either. If not the reasonable logic about the "connections" with the Point Their Finger Sisters aka Daubenistas has to both la/AMPP or back to Buttercup again because he's dating who??????? Now have you all gone dizzy? The blog might be about a certain asshole but he's connected to them all. I find it interesting that "webby" (is that his nickname?) comes in here crying foul!! You're not talking about Joey. Narcissism is such a ugly character trait.

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    7. NothingbettertodotodayJanuary 5, 2013 at 8:45 PM

      @ R00: Webby is what we call him. If it bothers him, he hasn't said so. He's just playing with us, don't pay him no mind.

      You are right, Joey and Joey's activities are what brought this whole other world of interesting characters to our attention. Mind boggling, isn't it?

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  17. David Webb, you are a retired reporter. According to your own words. Not still a reporter, you are retired and are now only a Blogger.

    And according to some, we are all supposedly Ginger, so the fact that some of us corrected the errant Anon should cover it. LOL ;)

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    1. NothingbettertodotodayJanuary 4, 2013 at 4:35 PM

      LMAO on that one.....

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  18. And to help make you feel better Webby, the article you are posting these comments on reveal that Joey is out on bail according to the daubenistas.

    So that corrects any oversight about his current whereabouts. It still doesn't matter. Joey is still a convicted felon. It was still comments based on available information in MSM, and we still aren't stalking Joey enough to call the jail daily to see if he is still there, Who does that anyway? I have never known anyone to call daily to be sure someone is in jail unless they are deathly afraid of that person.

    Thank you for your reluctant update on his being out on bail. Still not sure why you thought it was an important secret or bombshell.

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    1. Were you supposed to call daily? Once a week or so would've covered your behinds.

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    2. covered them from what? as you said, Ginger's focus was on something else, so Ginger wasn't actively reporting Joey in jail when Joey wasn't. Apparently it wasn't big enough news to be reported on by any of the real media. It was non-news. So, Joey is out a couple of weeks before his next court date. He's got strict guidelines to follow for his FELONY CONVICTION, and I think for now it's pretty fresh on his mind what happens when you don't follow restrictions. So, I'm pretty sure he can handle being on good behaviour for a few days. Again, this is non-news.

      I'm out for a while. This is boring and redundant. Adios!

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    3. That's right, run off.

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    4. Ya know anon, this really isn't that fascinating since it makes so little sense. Some people have other things to do than the conversation we are attempting with you here.

      I agree with Oreader, we all seem to have said it in so many ways. It is a moot point. The intended meaning was that Bill Windsor should pay attention to why Joey is a convicted Felon. Because Bill is doing the same thing. Only Bill has probably got more followers aka minions aka pie people following his every word.

      Bill is abusive and gets his feelings hurt when a woman in a wheel chair from domestic violence kicks some internet sand in his face. Instead of reacting like an adult, and removing her from his organization lists, he gets in a blog war about it and asks people to harass her. He then mocks her (using a picture that wasn't even her and not realizing it LOL) and encourages others to. He then repeats the same thing with another woman who wants to cut ties with him Heck, he even axed some of his head volunteers. The battle is still ongoing as he posted more info on yet another person today.

      Do you really want to support the actions of this man, or of Joey? If so, just say so.

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    5. And now, let's try to feign disinterest so we can get on to another subject. But not before trying to align a *critical commenter* with Dauben or Windsor. As if this hasn't been done before.

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    6. American Mothers Political Party announces that there will be no Lawless America Movie

      04 Jan
      Written by William M. Windsor

      lawless-america-logo-boycott-200w

      The American Mothers Political Party has today announced that there will be no movie. Lawless America...The Movie is apparently out of business, according to Kimberly Wigglesworth.

      The American Mothers Political Party fosters anti-father sentiment and has a stated policy of being anti-grandparent. I you haven't seen the video where I announce many of the various charges against me personally, check out the "I am a Pedophile Video."

      The American Mothers Political Party has launched this boycott as yet another in a long string of attacks on people and groups.

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  19. It was reported here by Ginger Snap:

    Ginger SnapJanuary 3, 2013 1:41 PM
    Well once Billy decided to publish names, phone numbers and addresses he did like Joey did and he made the threat real. Joey sits in jail a convicted felon for doing the same thing Windsor just did. If one of his crazies goes out and acts on his own with the info Bill gave out, then the blood is on Bill's hands. That's the reason I didn't link to Bill's story on his listing of the names and numbers, I wish that bell could get unrung

    You shouldn't be writing that people are in jail on Jan. 3 when they've been out since Dec. 24. He had been out of jail 11 days at that point.

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    1. NothingbettertodotodayJanuary 4, 2013 at 4:59 PM

      OMG! Really? The point of that sentence was that Joey was convicted for doing the same thing Bill was doing. In/out of jail was completely irrelevant to Gingersnap's point. You are picking nits.

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    2. Hmmm well I guess you got me there. I forgot what exactly what I said deep somewhere in the comments. I guess I should ammend that "Joey sits somewhere as a convicted felon".

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    3. Whoopsie, can't unring that bell, Ginger Snap.

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    4. You need an editor, Ginger. Ring me up and we can discuss the details. I believe you have the number.

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    5. And yet the sentiment still applies David. Do you have any clue what Bill Windsor has been up to lately, or how it is similar to what Joey did, including posting pictures, phone numbers, addresses and anger towards this woman and then pointing his minions towards her and saying contact her? Do you honestly want to nitpick the analogy to Joey's conviction and Joey sitting in jail?

      Is this how you roll David? Do you agree with what Bill is doing as recently as today's new article on his website? Do you really see a reason to be stuck on Joey being still in jail awaiting trial, or for him being bailed out?

      Do you even grasp that this is a non issue on Joey?

      You need to read up on Bill and what he is currently doing. You should be able to connect the dots to how Joey ended up in jail, and convicted of a felony.

      Do you seriously condone this behavior and mob mentality attacks instigates by people like Joey and Bill?

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    6. No I can't. I must look so stupid for not calling the jail daily to check up on Joey. Or maybe you look dumb for knowing it and acting like you have some huge secret. We can let the readers decide.

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    7. oh oh oh, can I vote??

      You look childish David Webb. All those mysterious comments you left, and you ploy to try to get Ginger on the phone for the big reveal? Yeah, childish and probably clueless too.

      You could have spoken up and not played games. We would have thanked you for the update. Seeing as how the MSM is ignoring Joey, and we aren't stalkers, it was hard to know he managed to find someone with the cash to bail him out.

      Don't worry, we will be back to Joey when the details of his trial become available. Are you going to attend the trial and blog about it??

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    8. How long we're you clowns sitting on this and hoping I would say Joey was in jail? And how much more dissapointing it was that you could get was a partial reference buried deep in the comments on a completely different topic? Must be deflating as Oreader said.

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    9. LMAO- and to prove we are all the same person, it's either picking nits or nit picking according to NBTDT and me.

      hahahhahaaa, yep we agree you are missing the whole point.

      Since you are grasping at straws, let me hand you one from Ginger 'I should ammend that "Joey sits somewhere as a convicted felon". '

      Don't say I never gave you anything spider man.

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    10. Readers agree that weekly calls would be more than sufficient, Ginger Snap, especially taking in consideration the name of this blog. Maybe even bi-weekly calls, what with all the LA/AMPP excitement. Why do you think that you look stupid? You just made a mistake, after all.

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  20. Speaking of the vile acts of Bill the pie monster<-- note to those who can't understand sarcasm, I do not think Bill is actually a pie monster

    Bull has a new article up where he posts an email sent between other people. In other words, he is posting private emails to which he was not a party. Oh billy, you are such a fool.

    I won't even post the link, because he once again has his hit list in it, and personal informations and phone numbers. LOL, I do see it's because someone posted that there will be no Sundance showings, because of a rule for submissions. In actuality it won't be because it is not a movie, just a bunch of clips and will not warrant any attention by the committee that picks the movies that will be screened! Sorry Bill, you just aren't that good LMAO

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  21. LOL, just when I start getting a bit peeved at your comments, you make me laugh again Webb-man.

    'You need an editor, Ginger'

    Don't we all, but then again, it was a comment on a post on a blog. It may have been factually inaccurate but the intended meaning is still there.

    LMAO- no one is calling you on the phone David, are you lonely? Is that what this is about?

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    1. Call me a perfectionist, but I thought that 11 days after Joey had been released from jail that the publisher of joeyisalittlekid.blogspot.com shouldn't be saying he was sitting in a cell playing with crayons. That doesn't mean that I think Lawless America and Bill Windsor are unimportant. It's just that if you've named a blog after somebody .... Well, you can see where I'm going with this.

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    2. Actually I never said anything about crayons. You stand corrected. Oh the shame you must be feeling at this point.

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    3. Ah, but you did in another post. You didn't write about Joey being in his cell just once. There is another one mentioning crayons.

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    4. No I didn't. Someone else said that. You stand corrected again. You should just quit while you ate behind.

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    5. You have a small point David, in that the blog is named after Joey. You knew he was out of jail, and have provided information and updates before here and on your own blog. Why did you feel it was so unimportant that Joey made bail that you didn't mention it? Why not just correct us, and add information to the conversations if you were so concerned? I know you have been here since he was released.

      Because it is a non-issue. Especially in the context it was used. And for the record, I would expect you to be just as horrified(as we are) by what Bill is doing then and now. I don't necessarily expect you to know all the details of it, but just the overview. I'd be happy to help you understand the similarities between Joey's actions that led to his felony conviction, and Bill's actions that may lead to the same sorts of charges/possible convictions. In Bill's case it is all the more reprehensible because he has a much much larger following.

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    6. IN fact, they have both said go ahead and sue me I have nothing you can get in a judgement. They both have been warned by even their own followers that their actions are going to get them in trouble, they both ignored all the warnings.

      They both have victims. They both didn't and don't care about those victims. They both enjoy the page hits, and the publicity more than the truth or integrity.

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    7. And Webb, I have repeatedly said Joey was in a cell in error. Here is my retraction...

      JOEY HAS BEEN BAILED OUT OF JAIL SINCE DECEMBER 24, 2012. I was mistaken when I said he currently sat in a cell. He has been in jail, and he may be again, but he currently is not in jail. He is still convicted, and is out on bail pending further legal proceedings.

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  22. How many times have you interviewed Dauben since his release?

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  23. I haven't interviewed him at all. I have repeatedly said I wasn't going to write anything else about Joey Dauben until his Navarro County trial is over. One final story.

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  24. My understanding is that under instructions from his lawyer he is not to talk to the media at all. That has been in place for months since Navarro County prosecutors tried to get a gag order from the judge, who declined. I don't think Joey has been quoted anywhere since from before that hearing. I believe I talked to his sister for information about the results of the Ellis County trial.

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  25. therarereporter -I'm getting defamed again by terms such as "pervert"

    Are you? It's is a question. If you are not, simply answer, playing victim gets you nowhere.
    I wrote that to see if you would play victim and you fed into my hands. Thank you.

    Please explain why are you giddy over Joey being out? I do not recall ever seeing you answer a question proposed to you.

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    1. Why're you confusing Ginger Snap's giddy comment with fact? Why would being called a pervert not be defamation? What was the result of your Sex Offender Registry search? Was Webb included on it?

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    2. Anon, you may need a break from this. You are clearly becoming obsessed with yourself. The first sign is talking to yourself, so Ollie is right.

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    3. Awww, can't keep up? Go stand in the corner and just watch then.

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    4. I don't believe my name is Ginger. I've never posted as Ginger. Why is a question labeled defamation unless you prefer to remain an eternal victim?

      I said it to prove a point, you are an eternal victim.

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    5. Why does Webb continue to post under anon?

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    6. Maybe for the same reason you do?

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  26. No, I am not a pervert, and no, I am not giddy about Joey being released from jail. In fact, I'm not giddy about anything. Furthermore, I can't remember the last time I was giddy.

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    1. That part about not remembering ever being giddy is sort of sad David. Maybe you should make a resolution to find something that thrills and excites you to the level of giddy this year.

      (hug) be happy Mr. Webb, find your joy.

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    2. Do you have the blues Webb? Maybe you should take another cruise. Seriously, Oceans is right. Maybe you should take another cruise. Maybe the South Pacific. One of my family members went to Fiji last year, and the pictures were amazing. (no, I'm not talking about yappy, I have no idea where yaps went)

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    3. NothingbettertodotodayJanuary 4, 2013 at 8:30 PM

      Ah, come on Web. I was giddy during parts of the LA/AMPP war. I know you had to be giddy at some point too. Come on, admit it, there was a time or two you had the kind of belly laugh makes you giddy.....come on, you know it happened...........

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  27. Gee on a completely different subject...Pies must affect reading comprehension. Bill's latest article begins:
    "The American Mothers Political Party has today announced that there will be no movie. Lawless America...The Movie is apparently out of business, according to Kimberly Xxxxxxxxxxx"

    Actually, there currently is no movie, only a bunch of video clips. There are pies being devoured somewhere because Bill is angry that there are some people who may write to Sundance about him. LOL, because he believes he is a shoe in to be screened there. There is Kimberly saying she thinks he can't be in it because of a rule on their website about current law suits. She is assuming this will reach the law suit phase.

    He then goes on to publish an email he is not party to, and complain about some boycott of his film. LOL, seems these people on both sides don't know what a boycott is.

    He also complains AMPP attacks people and groups...oh Bill, you need a mirror. You are doing this to so many people right now, and renewing it daily on your website and FB.

    And at the end we have a graphic that says BOYCOTT LAWLESS AMERICA the Movie. LMAO- oh bill....

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    1. Bill is a really angry guy. Is he just suspended from FB for a week? Has he said?

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    2. It's either a week or just a few days...and only on one of his accounts (LA) and not the others or his personal one.

      He still has his web site. And he has the mini-me's who will post his comments for him(just like joey did,hahaha).

      There was a post about his suspension, and his now carrying a gun when he films, along with other tripe he included.

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  28. I just don't see why people comment in secrecy.

    Here is Webb, photo, links etc. Everybody else is hiding behind nicknames, and computers. I've said it before, it just seems cowardly.

    Anyway, I'm waiting for the results of the trial.

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    1. What? Webb has posted as "anonymous" also. And the anonymous you are reading today is an obvious troll.

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    2. Ya know Jimmy S.,

      Some people pick an alias and stick with it. Some people don't use their real name or provide info because they have experienced real life stalkers. Some are undoubtedly cowards who are trolls or the like.

      You don't use your whole name. or picture and that's fine.

      It does get hard to follow when there's more than one Anon at a time though.

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    3. Jimmy, Webb is also posting under anon many times.

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  29. from LA FB
    Michael Warnken Is there any way that both parties can walk away from each other? I mean, let the American Mothers Political Party go on its own and do what it does and Lawless America continue with the content is has and drop theirs?
    5 hours ago · 1
    Bill Windsor No, Michael. This is now a serious criminal matter as well as one of the more significantly outrageous cases of slander that I have ever seen.
    4 hours ago · 5

    Ya know Whiney Windsor, you have no clue how nasty defamation can get, and it really doesn't help when you make videos that start of with saying I AM A PEDOPHILE...cos some people turn it off after just hearing that. Just sayin'.

    You associated with women who you knew called everyone they didn't like pedophiles, or pedophile supporters. You hung out with then for hours. You filmed them doing this, you read their emails, and you spoke to the enough you should have picked up on this.

    Why does is surprise you when they turn on you?

    See the thing is, you have a lot of unstable followers who not only will turn on you, but follow your lead without any filter or critical thought. You are ignoring people and banning them for urging moderation or asking you to stop this fight. But you can't and you won't and it keeps getting worse. ALL BECAUSE YOU GOT YOUR FEELINGS HURT by some comments that would have been long forgotten or even better, never known about. Had you just let it drop and deleted this woman, it all would have gone away.

    You just can't win this one, you are losing followers and bordering on illegal activities and slander/libel. While you may not be able to bring motions to courts, they can.

    What the heck is the point of all this Billy boy? Aren't you supposed to be overwhelmed and busy with the Meet Me in DC trip and editing your movie-that-will-never-see-Sundance???

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    1. I saw two men simply question some stastics that didn't add up, and they were both immediately called abusers. One of these posts was on the Lawless America facebook page. You'd think Bill would have wanted to distance himself from that.

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    2. Nope Bill loves his drama mama's and the whole righteous indignation thing too much.

      He doesn't vet and he doesn't really monitor the FB page closely. You can tell by all the random crap that gets left there. There are comments that he himself make that are pretty immature and clearly not in his own best interest or that of his group. He can't be counted on for anything but pie consumption and lot's of driving cross country on donations.

      Thank goodness it's all digital photography these days, or he'd be hiding under a mountain of film. Hiding from the dastardly conspiring Federal Judges that he thinks are out to get him because of his fine legal mind..

      okay, getting up of the floor from laughing as I typed that...

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    3. Bill has even driven across the Pacific Ocean! At first I thought he'd made a mistake, but he's said driven to all 50 states so many times, it must be true! I believe everything I read! YAY!

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    4. and he has it written on his cars that way too. So it must be true!!!

      LOL, I love that he used the same logo for Round America as he does for Lawless...

      AMPP seems to have moved on, it looks like it's all Billy the bully keeping the fire stoked. Someone should tell him it's not possible to win a blog war.

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  30. somebody else has mentioned it, but I'm not sure Bill understand just how elite Sundance is

    "Getting your film into the Sundance Film Festival is an amazing honor. The festival is highly competitive. For example, over 1,227 films were submitted for consideration for the January 2013 festival and only 16 were chosen."

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  31. I know Ollie, and yet billy thinks he's a shoe in for next year. There are other requirements too. Including his making the film available online. You know he won't be able to resist!

    Sort of like expecting Joey to stay off the internet completely.

    This latest campaign of bill's is going badly. I see more dissent about his calling AMPP a hate group. He obviously doesn't understand what it really is to be a hate group. Sorry but those dissenters will end up getting banned and vanish into the internet ether.

    It's okay, because we have Wendy Beal posting her insanity and conspiracy links to add comic relief on LA FB. This time instead men dresses as nuns being involved in Sandy Hook, its 'Creepy World of Mainstream Media Believers Uncovered'

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  32. OMG- don't read that article Wendy Beal linked on LA FB. It is scary and delusional, and goes so far as to call the murder of children and teachers a staged event.

    WTF kind of people believe that? Oh yeah, some of them believe in Bil as a savior and destroyer of the judiciary and dictator of what to believe in too.

    Not saying all of his pie people are like this, but WOW there are some real doozies..

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    1. my apologies Ollie, you shouldn't have been exposed to that, I take full responsibility for mentioning Wendy...

      OMG, I really owe you something now...

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    2. LOL. Well at least it was clearly written even if the subject matter was crazy. That's better than the people on his fb page can do.

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    3. Well, that article sums up the brilliant minds of LA very nicely. These guys are seriously off their meds.

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  33. Have fun folks, see you soon! Heading out of town for a few days :)

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  34. I posted the pervert comment knowing Webb would jump all over it, playing the victim card & use the same defamation, libel & slander song Bill uses.

    No one can ask a question without Webb making it his mission to expose people as a hate group. Back to my original thought when I read Webb's GOTCHA posts, he is giddy. Why is he giddy?

    He claims to be far superior than all those writing on Gingers blog. Don't intelligent, thoughtful & moralistic journalists inform the public when a child molester, alleged or not is released? While Joey is presumed innocent, Webb would rather take a chance playing games on a blog rather than for the greater good, informing the public? It isn't a far leap to presume Webb supports Joey and his crimes, is it?

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    1. No, I don't think it's fair to leap to the presumption that Webb supports any wrongdoing by Joey.

      It is my opinion that Webb finds Joey interesting & thought he saw potential in a young "journalist." Otherwise, I don't think he would have met with him or followed his story as closely. He may support Joey. He seems to think that the felony for which he was already convicted should have been a civil matter - meaning he doesn't view it as a "crime." And, It is also my opinion that Webb probably doesn't believe Joey committed the other crimes in Navarro county. So again, no, I don't think it's fair to say he supports any criminal action by Joey.

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    2. What OR said.
      And your comment "Don't intelligent, thoughtful & moralistic journalists inform the public when a child molester, alleged or not is released? While Joey is presumed innocent, Webb would rather take a chance playing games on a blog rather than for the greater good, informing the public?" makes me want to see what that alarmist blogger from Dauben's March release is up to.

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  35. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDHDM7PfyYs

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    1. Bing that sh**, lol.

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    2. NothingbettertodotodayJanuary 4, 2013 at 10:24 PM

      hahahahahahahahahaha - yeah, Bing that sh**.

      Too funny!

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  36. http://www.flickr.com/photos/roundamerica/3124561074/ Forever the opportunist, perhaps Mr. Bill will find a way to turn these events into a new business opportunity. By the way, did you know Barbara owns a business called Hotties?

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  37. NothingbettertodotodayJanuary 4, 2013 at 11:21 PM

    A gourmet doughnut store?? How funny. Looks she is co-owner. They started the business in 2001. Right before he opened business, Bill bought a 55 Chevy cop car. He seemed to be giddy as he drove the cop car to Krispe Kreme in Grapevine to spy on the competition:

    http://www.roundamerica.com/55-chevy-dallas-to-atlanta.htm

    That picture he took at the antique store is seriously twisted.

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    1. All this hubbub about Mr. Bill and his wife stays silent. I wonder if she was born mute or if she is too busy reading this blog....or um...hehehe...there is not much about her on the internet but in googling her name I did find these pictures. The hair color and the wig don't suit her. http://www.google.com/imgres?q=barbara+windsor&hl=en&client=opera&hs=7yL&sa=X&tbo=d&channel=suggest&tbm=isch&tbnid=VeCXNn4RnXsgvM:&imgrefurl=http://mercadotv.com.au/%3Fp%3D103&docid=LwihVYjEVkdR3M&imgurl=http://mercadotv.com.au/uploaded_images/barbara-windsor-708613.jpg&w=300&h=300&ei=MtfoUIntJIXE2gWms4DoBg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=493&vpy=2&dur=79&hovh=225&hovw=225&tx=124&ty=88&sig=117874915930095633648&page=3&tbnh=144&tbnw=132&start=31&ndsp=16&ved=1t:429,r:35,s:0,i:206&biw=760&bih=431 This may explain why Bill likes pie.

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  38. Presley Renae Dauben-Tuma
    4 hours ago via mobile

    This is precisely why I will never support ANY group again. I've been burned one too many times. I have never attacked Bill Windsor, in fact throughout all of this I have been more respectful & kind to him than he deserves. I responded to this email asking that he remove any links to my pages from his articles. I withdraw my support of the following groups as they have viciously attacked me & now their behavior has shown me they support the man who forced his penis in mouth as a four year old girl: American Mothers Political Party & Lawless America. I'm not telling anyone what to do, but be warned if they will turn on me for nothing, the same could happen to anyone of you. — with Lorraine Schaffer Haake, Erin Moers, Thot Criminill, Meshack Charan, Katrina Charan, Stacey Hart, Barbara Hand Ness, Presley Skye Crowe, Loryn Ryder, Jennie Morton, Trisha Wakat Shafer and Kelly Kenyon.

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    1. Presley, just a bid of advice. (unsolicited but friendly)

      I do hope Joey is innocent and cleared of the charges.

      Once he is and if you are going to marry him...

      1) Don't worry about papers any more.
      2) Don't worry about activism any more.
      3) Be a good wife and assist Joey in life.
      4) Encourage Joey to find something outside of reporting.

      Look I enjoyed much of his anti tax stuff and have known of him for a long time now.

      Back out of this internet drama. Work together. Stay out of debt. Travel. Get out of this internet drama with him.... Seriously... Live happily ever after.

      Activism only leads to ugliness and barely ever accomplishes anything.

      Encourage him seriously to just drop all this reporting stuff and do something entirely different. Real legit stuff. Heck he could drive a truck for $20 an hour. Let all this be put behind you two.

      God Bless.

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  39. That really is some great advice. Nobody can or will save your sister, but your sister, this is her battle. That is the only way. Putting your life online on the internet is too much distraction from the little things in life as life is too short.

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  40. Like my friend said "Life even though it is short is worth fighting for"

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    1. NothingbettertodotodayJanuary 5, 2013 at 8:54 AM

      Yeah - YOUR life. Look how many people, that don't even know you, really care about you and the choices you are making. Some of your associates are sucking the life out of you to satisfy their own needs. You are so much smarter and better than that. Use the brains God gave you, think for yourself.

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  41. More targets for Billy Boy:

    Bill Windsor shared Bill Windsor's photo.
    7 minutes ago
    LEGAL NOTICE:

    WTP FPR (aka We the People Family Preservation Rally) continues to violate the trademark, copyright, and intellectual property rights of Lawless America, as do other dishonest people and groups.

    Lawless America first served copyright and trademark notice in 2006. Use of the name and mark without permission is illegal.

    Check this out: After misappropriating our event in DC on January 9, illegally obtaining a copy of our confidential database, and using our name to attempt to deceive people into thinking they were us, now they have continued this with setting up a page as if they were us. See http://www.worldtruth.org/LawlessAmerica/

    The people known or believed to be involved are Lisa Jones, L. Wilson, Christopher House, Anne House, Diane Gochin, Caroline Ivith Silva, and others.

    We need someone to go by and take photos of the huge crowd that shows up for their January 9 DC event in the South Congressional Meeting Room.

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    1. Bill Windsor I'm at risk if I comment here about the group of corrupt people working against us, but I will identify those that we know about thus far in an article on LawlessAmerica.com

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    2. I can't wait to see Gingersnap's name on that list. Hear that Ginger? Billy Windsor is going to make you a star!!

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    3. yeah that would be something to be on Windsor's List:
      Name Ginger Snap
      Address joeyisalittlekid.blogspot.com
      Phone the internet
      Location USA
      Offense Making me look stupid

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  42. So where is our little weasel webby? Is this really his "big news" that he was dropping hints at for almost a week now? Why not report the whole story as if you were an actual reporter? How did Joey make bail, how much was it, who paid it, why did they when his trail starts next week anyway?

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    1. I think it's funny all the Daubenistas have come here in the past and said we shouldn't be talking about Joey. And now when other stuff is going on and we don't talk about Joey for a few days, they come and make sure to get you back on track to talk about Joey. Instead of being happy that we're discussing their new arch nemesis Bill Windsor, they are all butt hurt somebody other than Joey is getting attention.

      pun intended*

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    2. NothingbettertodotodayJanuary 5, 2013 at 8:57 PM

      LMAO - I had the same thought.

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