Wednesday, January 9, 2013

The Pie Baby Refuses To Stop Crying

First we have this exchange from a pretty rational poster on Lawless America (my comments in bold)

Sarah Lauf Blackposted toLawless America
December 31, 2012 via mobile
What is going on with the Lawless and AMPP hate? That is part of this country's problem, HATE. Opinions will vary, but come on folks, we make mistakes, we have to forgive and unify. The corrupt want hate to occur with in our groups that will expose. Forgive and Unite, please!
6 people like this.

Goldie Moore I said the same thing, the powers that ARE thrive off negativity and hate!
January 1 at 2:58am

Lawless America There is NO forgiving (the Bible be damned). I cannot forgive the crimes these women have perpetrated and continue to perpetrate (I hate them so much), the outrageous libel and slander (only I get to do those crimes), and on and on (I say on and on because those are the only words in my lexicon to describe them, oh and I hate them). That is a hate group. Those are hateful women (I hate them so much I might be a hate group now). I will have absolutely nothing to do with anyone associated with them in any manner (unless they have pie). I am filing criminal charges against several of them (I just don't know their names, locations ect), and I will file civil charges as well (oh yeah, I can't the courts wont let me, why are my pants on fire again?). I still have 150 friends who Like their page, and I will unfriend all of those people (also, could someone show me how you unfriend someone on facebook?). If you don't like this, please unfriend me (and then tell me how you did it). I simply will not ever tolerate liars and extremely rude people, and these folks have taken both to a whole new level (God I hate them so much I can't see straight).


Then, the Pie Baby goes on to declare himself a court and gives himself the power of sworn testimony:

Lawless America I will be requiring everyone filmed to sign a sworn affidavit under penalty of perjury. Unfortunately, that won't stop the pathological liars.

49 comments:

  1. Well he stepped away from them... Isn't that a good thing?

    You know, I didn't understand the title of this blog at first from many months back.

    I sort of do now. Seems like many affiliated with Joey really just have growing up to do. The name calling, rumor mongering,...

    It's like wow people, chill... Go RV'ing. Go see Yosemite and just enjoy your life.

    Bill probably did the right thing stepping away. Gotta give him props.

    I just hope today there are lots of holes, and Joey is cleared for his sake, and the victims.

    If he is cleared, I'm going to have a serious talk with Joey telling him how "life works".

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    1. he didn't step away, that was the point. People were asking him to let it go and he says no, I will not. He is pressing more charges, he is unfriending them and he wont stop

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    2. Per his own words, he needs to pull his own video. After he started this BS he "liked" the AMPP page.

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  2. Did one of the women he posted her info online try to or did Kill herself?

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    1. I did read where he gave info to one's ex who beat the crap out of their kid but have not heard of any deaths....yet.

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  3. Another good one Ginger, especially how he can't see straight. ROFL

    No worries, it will end soon. The truth-teller has arrived, which makes all of the drama even funnier. Oh no, she's going to post proof he's lying? lmao Sounds like a diversion tactic to take heat off of her. Bill's a gonner. Run Windsor Run!
    Connie Bedwell-Tuma
    about an hour ago via mobile
    Bill Windsor I feel like I should send you some TP for your mouth with all that crap your spewing! Looks like I'm going to have to post your emails to show everybody what a liar you are. Sickening!
    *giggle giggle*

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    1. She must have a lot of extra TP given all the crap she spews. She's sure spittin' mad he took away her only "national media" gosh darn it! Her other national media is currently on trial for raping a child (Joey).... I bet her head is spinning, lets stop and pray for the Conster.

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    2. Ooops, she adds one more thing:

      Aaliyah Connie Bedwell-Tuma AMPP has attacked Presley and I as well, openly supporting the pedophiles like Bill is. I've seen enough from both groups and I'm staying away from both. Their behavior has been more than enough from me.
      21 minutes ago via mobile


      Given both Lawless and AMPP tossed your hiney to the curb Connie, you can't do anything BUT stay away from them, THEY don't want you. You didn't fire the first shot, You GOT 'fired'.

      Don't you realize how foolish your FB rants are looking? Shouldn't you be supporting your best friend Presley right now since her financee is facing serious prison time? Naw, its always about Connie and what others did to Connie.

      Just like Billy and what others did to BIlly. These people don't actually give a crap about others around them suffering, because the world revolves around THEM! lmao rofl silly stupid humans waging a "FB War" at each other. LMAO

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    3. Well said yappy, 'cept for the part about "these people". I believe AMPP has taken every step possible to support battered women in family court, they're NOT superheroes, neither is pie man. The only thing to do with mothers going through this battle with their named abusers or their children's abusers is to educate them on how the court system works or doesn't. When you claim abuse and this goes for BOTH genders, the judge will view you as a "vengeful" ex. It is so because of the "bad apples" who've spoiled the whole damn bunch. The "Daubenistas" threw AMPP under a bus and then backed over them a few times. Denying any involvement w/AMPP (even though claiming they used to be "admins" few weeks back) They sold out to the fathers right's agenda. So the reasons that billy boy and AMPP have to not want anything to do with these three is quite different. Missed ya yappy, hope you had a wonderful anniversary.

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    4. Yeah, my exposure to the family court system has been from what I have read from Joey, Conster, Presley and now Lawless. Thats probably not fair because there most likely are legitimate cases out there where the system is keeping a good mother or father from their child. Its hard for me to see it since all I have see are these clowns and their ever changing stories. They have poisoned my view of the topic.

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    5. oopsie, its a misunderstanding R00tK1tty - By saying 'these people, i merely meant Connie, Loryn and Billy. No one else was implied. Sorry :/ but glad you cleared up the AMPP support.

      I meant how Billy isn't focusing on his original mission to help the masses. Connie isn't focusing on Presleys' heartache today like a real friend would. I presume Presley's heart is taking a shit kicking having to listen to reality in the court (Joey case). Instead Connie is ranting on Billy and AMPP. It just shows how selfish she is and how selfish Billy is too. Their (connie n billy's ) world is about them, everyone else is a distant second. Very self-centered.

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    6. oh awww and thank you Rtk... for the anniversary wishes. We've been together over 2 decades, but 1 marriages seem to be a dying breed. Life is so short and there's so many people going through hell out there. Wish it was different :(

      I don't get how Connie or Presley kept driving that bus over those AMPP ladies. It made no sense at all. When they supported her, she's a good friend. But stand up and say something against her and she goes apesh*t. She even labeled AMPP's as abusers and supporting pedophiles? That had to be the most whacked thing she could ever say. 1 trip to the AMPP FB website, you can see how those women are incredibly intent on taking abusers and pedo's down for good!! Sheesh

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    7. yappy needs an edit button & a zip your mouf buttonJanuary 9, 2013 at 3:26 PM

      urrrggggg 1 marriages? I give up. I mean 1st marriage. kids have both natural parents together/ dying breed.

      my fingers are all Webby (no pun intended lol)... all this water in Texas, I can't type.

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    8. I had asked AMPP to stop posting about a case but that only caused them to ramp it up. They never took the time to think about any facts or whether the story they were told was valid. "Shoot and ask questions later" isn't conducive to being an advocate.
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    9. Do you know some of the member are the adult children that were sexual assaulted and the courts did not believe them, so it is foolish to go to a support group like that and tell them any of the women are lying.

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    10. "so it is foolish to go to a support group like that and tell them any of the women are lying" There are good people and bad people in AA. There are also those who really haven not quit drinking yet "pretending" they are getting help. There are also those who are just in there trying to figure out what their mate is doing in that place. Why would you think an online support group for women would be any different? The information is there for whomever to read, the page is public for anyone to post. They can't be responsible for what those people post. I would think they check the moms out more in the smaller groups, but the public page is like an open AA meeting, anyone can go.

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    11. because women in that group, who were telling the the court what happen no one listen, they were there to support women, because no on support them, I also know they threw a few women to the curb, one for hurting her own child and a group for conning Victims out of money.

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  4. You want to know what is sick and abusive (exploitive) to a child and p*sses me OFFFFF? How can a 3 yr old possibly be "SAD" about a lawless video being removed from youtube with her mommy spewing lies UNLESS THAT MOMMY also explains her vengeful plots to the child. They purposely HURT children with immature adult behavior. "See (loryns child) look at the big mean man and what he did to mommy. Mommy's crying so you should be too" HOW DARE THESE SICK WOMEN bring children INTO the drama. Connie, you think that's normal parenting? You truly are a very sick person, thank the good Lord above you can never see your child again. Like "EYES FOR LIES" deception expert said about you - you would DESTROY your child. And this is a perfect example how immature parents destroy their children.


    Connie Bedwell-Tuma You want to know what pissed me off? When I heard (loryns child) when I was on the phone with Loryn and I heard her sad little voice in the background go "mommy did he take my video down too?" poor thing.
    about an hour ago via mobile

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    1. A healthy parent would not include the child in any parent/courtroom battle. How dare they do this to that little girl. Another example of abuse. WTF should a 3yrold child know about Lawless videos?

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    2. Connie Bedwell doesn't need help in showing how much of an insane person she and Loryn and Bill's ex-adopted daughter is. To make a child a part of any discussions about videos that are posted online only provides more proof that the courts were correct in limiting the contact with their children or in Bedwell's case, stopping all contact all together. It is disgusting to see that you fruitloops think nothing of having this little girl involved in your b.s. attacks. I recall seeing Loryn Ryder also have her child draw pictures of other cases and lightning.

      No none of you can summons lighting, you're nutso for thinking that you can or that someone/something will use lightning for you. Geezus you people are nuts. Hopefully that father is making copies of these insane people so that he can protect his little girl. Certifiable Connie, absolutely 100% certifiable.
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    3. Thor can summon lightning, but I highly doubt he's comeing to their rescue any time soon either.

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  5. The use of CGI is the only Mrs. Ed and her cronies could ever "summons" lightning. Let me see "Wilburrrr", you claim every one that you attack is a pedophile or a pedophile supporter. I have yet to read of any substantiated proof other than people making accusations. However, you support two people that have 40 charges against them. Connie supports Dauben who has 4 charges he is in trial for and she adamantly defends her "father" who is facing 36 counts in Alaska. You're batting a 1000% but the wrong way.

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    1. You realize Conster reads here right Anonymous? Now you're gonna make her bible-code CGI. She'll be busy all day now trying to figure that one out. LOL

      40 charges and both men are up for child rape. Smart lady, it gives her case credibility when she's crying how the entire world is falsely accusing her daddy but its impossible for her to have falsely accused her own Ex even though all those investigations for years proved her claims were completely unfounded.

      I still have a hard time getting the Connie mantra straight. Men who HAVE been charged, in jail for child sex crimes and have clear evidence showing they raped children are innocent but those who have no evidence and never been charged with a crime are guilty. Is that right Connie?

      Think about all those poor innocent non child raping men behind bars right now. What has the world come to? Thank God Mrs Ed is here to save the day and set the record straight.

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  6. I thought Billy was in Hawaii? And why does this buffoon start off all his sentences with "I'm alive"...? Then points out the obvious "decidedly not well".

    We get you're decidedly not well Billy.


    Lawless America shared a link.
    about an hour ago
    1-9-2013 - 11:55 AM PACIFIC TIME - OLYMPIA WASHINGTON:

    I am alive and decidedly not well after observing two hours of the hearing on termination of parental rights of Irene Holmes and Tim Kittleson

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    1. its like a kid in college writing to his parents. "Dear mom, life is hard, please send more pie".

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  7. I firmly believe PieGuy Billy sits at his computer 18-20 hours a day. How could anyone that posts that many status updates, photos, links, makes comments, likes the posts of others AND under 3 different Facebook accounts, add in the emailing, private messenging & YouTube time & he must not ever log off! It's a miracle he isn't blind from the glare off the monitor! Bill Windsor's Facebook activity in 2 days alone is more hours than most working Americans put in at their jobs in a week!
    Take his Facebook away & he'd be just like HumptyDumpty.

    & Conster? Loryn? do either of them have a job? or do they fraud the government that they hate so much out of monthly benefits? I'd betchya 2 lightening bolts, they are both drawing a Social Security check for being certifiably batshit crazy.
    I had hoped the AMPP mommies would read up at theTruthAboutConnieBedwell -Daddy's Worm Video is a HOAX (by Googling Connie Bedwell)& see the actual court documents...I was so hoping they'd blast her sorry, lying ass & her predator father all across Facebook, just as Connie has done.

    R2D2

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    1. he has two criminal running the Page, One has been arrested before for making threat on the internet and his GF has been arrested for foraging.Bill was told that but lies to his people, about How wonderful they are. I wonder how many of these lawless people are having their ID stolen.I do feel he is part of it all because he keep trying to make everyone think he keep getting Hack.He just try to said the woman in the wheel chair hack him.

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    2. They don't need to waste time reading papers, her character has shown through, they have parted ways and are moving on it seems. They usually take the high road...often after a blow up of expletives LOL.

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  8. Whoop somebody http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ5vTrEk_gk

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  9. Yes there are some very expliotative persons that participated in being filmed by Lawless America.Several have allowed their children to be filmed which is not appropriate.One mother I was told was actually enraged that her teenage daughter would not be in the movie because she was told neither her or her daughter were chosen to be in the film.How very sad that some parents care only about themselves and not their children whom they treat like objects.It makes dedicated decent parents who are simply trying to protect their children from harm just as dishonest as the selfish ones who care more about their 15 minutes than their children.

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    1. I do agree that people should not post their children information online and a lot of these people care for nothing but their 15 minutes of fame,I do not think that is true because Lawless is not sure who is going to be in the movie, right now it all about a shakedown of what he can get.

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  10. Look like the Thieves running lawless page hack AMPP today.

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  11. NothingbettertodotodayJanuary 9, 2013 at 8:23 PM

    @ AMPP members: just curious as to whether y'all know who this is and if this is an AMPP supporter?

    Crystalcox Victimsgroup hey, I'm supposed to be the bad ass... going to be the pie man ass kicker more like it.
    23 hours ago via mobile · Like · 2
    American Mothers Political Party you haven't been watching the links Crystal cox
    12 hours ago · Like · 1
    Crystalcox Victimsgroup Ugh, can't possibly watch it all, I'm too busy waiting to see if billy is going to missoula with his "big guys with guns" . Still wondering if I'm going to be in a shootout.

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  12. Someone posted on here that they have never seen a bad court case? I went to film with pieman because I saw several other good DV advocates filming so i thought he could be trusted. I saw over time that he could not. Too late for me. He went after me and others at amp. Only thing is he says he is going to contact my ex (abuser)? Well I really think that would be rather stupid on bill's part. I have solid black and white proof of what happened to me and my children through family court and dcf. Thirty years of dcf history and they failed me and my children every time. THEY MURDERED ONE OF MY CHILDREN AND I HAVE PROOF! So pieman can stick it. Call me out? I have the proof and i already had one leg sticking out in the public limelight. I will jump all the way in if it means protecting my last remaining child from dcf and a deluded abuser.

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    1. NothingbettertodotodayJanuary 9, 2013 at 9:43 PM

      @ Anon: I'm sorry for your pain. Did someone tell you about the post or did you see it for yourself?

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    2. Saw it myself. I am on the famous list. I am an original ampp. I work with local moms to me when they pop up. I try to go to court hearings, keep moms calm, give them my ideas as far as dcf and family court work, my child spends time with their kids (when possible) to give the child some normal time away from frantic stuff and that helps my child too. But like I said, I hope pie face calls me out by calling my ex. I have everything in black and white. Solid proof police reports dcf reports etc etc. I am not a man hater, I am just tired of abusive men who hurt women and children. There are groups for men, I work with women.

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    3. I don't think anyone is saying Bill never video'd credible people. We've only found a small few in the mix that are false accusers, etc and they've shown their true colors very quickly. I'm sorry to hear about your life & children. There's lots in the system that needs fixing and there are TRUE victims out here.

      If you read back far enough you'd see our own rage towards the fake false accusers like Connie Bedwell or Loryn Ryder. They are the ones that GIVE THE REAL mom's a bad name in the court system and they need to be exposed for what they are, vengeful women who merely hate their ex. Both of their cases were extensively investigated and both without any foundation at all. Its sad a few women do this but I certainly do not believe MOST do. I'm only vocal about the very few I believe are liars. Wish you the best anon.

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    4. Anon original amp @1144pm, are you the one that has pics of you being beaten with a crow bar? Maybe Billy should call him, he might get a good ass kicking.

      Not making fun of your plight in the least, its heart breaking to see those photos and read your story (if its you that I'm thinking of), it tore my heart out a couple years back. Since Billy thinks AMpps mamas are abusers, maybe he needs to meet a few REAL abusers in order to tell the difference hey?

      Now of course this iS MY opinion only. So if Billy is reading here, my crowbar reference is solely my words. You're welcome to sue me Mr Winderrr but I think you may have a hard time getting it in front of a judge. Boohoo someone named yappy said a real abuser should scare him with a crowbar. Sue sue sue sue sue sue sue. <Chanting billy's lullabye

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    5. No thankfully that is not me. I am a different mother. Sadly most of my own family is too wrapped up in their lives to help me so I have to navigate pretty much alone. Also my past is not pretty (and I told bill about that) but now I am lying. I tell people all the time - I am not proud of my past but I am not ashamed of it either. Due to my past I am now a recovering alcoholic with nearly 23 years of sobriety. I do not pull punches about it. I was young and I made some really bad choices. I learned from them and changed. Quitting drinking was one of those changes. Making life changes was another. I told bill all of this during the interview. It was all in the local news and papers when it happened. And if I am not mistaken he remembered reading about it. My wish is he get shut down. He just filmed a woman who scammed other mothers out of money. So i do not want to be a part of what he does. I was not nasty to him, I simply asked him to take my video down, I told him I do not want to be part of his project. No cursing, just simply please and thank you. He went on this rampage. I am a reasonable person. This stuff is completely getting under my skin.

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  13. NothingbettertodotodayJanuary 9, 2013 at 10:52 PM

    Too funny, two of the people Bill blocked from the LA FB page found his Bill Windsor FB page:

    G Allen Cantrell Bill, Will you please explain why you blocked my wife for trying to get you to understand that your mudslinging is causing damage to the CPS movement. She wasnt attacking you or anyone else, she was, in fact, trying to help you so you dont lose valuable supporters. When she commented that the "copy and pasted" email from a lady who was harassing you and using the 'F' word repeatedly didnt need to acknowledged let alone posted, that kids could see it, you told her to unfriend you because you wouldnt stop. Isnt all of this work supposed to be about FAMILIES and kids? Why would this cause you to block her? Shes defended and supported you and Lawless America this entire time. I think you owe her an apology. I also think you need to check your priorities. Either get into a word war with someone who doesnt matter or get justice for people whove been victimized by the system. You really cant logically have both.
    January 5 at 11:29pm via text message

    Zachery Lyons You can block me all you want mr windsor but all i did was put in my 2 cents your just as bad as the gov when you hear something you dont like thats gonna be your downfall mark my words.
    Yesterday at 2:21pm · Like
    Zachery Lyons wait for the block from this one people dont go against him slightly not even a pinch or hes gonna block you and say your wrong.
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    Zachery Lyons o and he will tell you you are confusing people...i think you people are alot smarter then mr windsor pegs you to be....isnt that sad doesnt that make u feel stupid when he said that too me i was confusing you?
    Yesterday at 2:24pm · Like
    Zachery Lyons how can a 26 year old young ass man confuse highly intelligent good people i dont get it. o wait i do hes just like the SHIT we are tryin to remove.
    Yesterday at 2:25pm

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    1. Thanks for the entertainment and diversion NBTDT... this is my fav:

      "Zachery Lyons wait for the block from this one people dont go against him slightly not even a pinch or hes gonna block you and say your wrong."

      Nope, don't say 1 meanie word about Billy or in reference of Billy or EVEN IMPLY something in the negative about Billy. His skin is so thin, even 1 bad FB word could make him bleed for a week.

      Friggin big ole baby can't handle squat. Where the hell is this big new presidential world saviors focus? Its not a shock he's started 5000 businesses in his lifetime, he can't stick to anything for any length of time, no matter what it is.

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    2. that because the others he keep stole people air mile, card numbers and tax returns, when this all died down people start losing their ID and card are open in their name of people in the movie, He is going to Blame the woman in the wheel chair or WTP or AMPP, when he did it with his friends the tech team crooks

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    3. NothingbettertodotodayJanuary 10, 2013 at 5:54 PM

      Zach has a burr up his butt about Bill - he's still at it today:

      Zachery Lyons No one attacks bill he just blocks people for their veiws and i told him before that was going to be his downfall. he just wants his movie....sad
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      Zachery Lyons as more time goes on he finds more an more normal intelligent people trying to say HEY bill thats not exactly ok thats not how we should go about it. then BAM your gone cause your confusing his people into thinking

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  14. yappy says have a happy yappy dayJanuary 10, 2013 at 6:24 AM

    Connie whining about Billy and AMPP post and Loryn's response. The girls are going to make their own movie! Why? Because they have more FB friends. Even though Connie can't see out of the 10,000 on her page, about 10 only ever respond to her. LMAO they're always good for a laugh, its like chickens with their heads cut off.

    To Knut: I'd vote Dumb & Dumber for the name but that's just my opinion.

    Loryn Ryder Who is Bill Windsor? Whoever he is I can tell you that just you and I combined have more supporters than he will ever have. Add all the other people he’s screwed over and right there is a huge following and I think it’s time that WE make HIM the STAR of OUR movie
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    Knut Arthursson Handeland Thelma & Louise No.2 ?
    6 hours ago

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    1. post the link because some of the people do not know who Connie is, all they know is the fat pie man is a crook

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  15. Now this is funny, on the youtube post about AMPP being a Hate group ...Curropt CT is saying they are not part of Lawless America .....Now this is his Tech person....Debbie Boyd and Rob Gouin will support users of www.LawlessAmerica.com with their problems and questions about using this website...

    here he is on Linkin...
    Robert Gouin | LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/in/webmaxdbCached
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    Hartford, Connecticut Area - Security Consultant / Software Developer at WebMaxDB

    View Robert Gouin's professional profile on LinkedIn. LinkedIn is the world's largest ... Education. Coventry High School; Central Connecticut State University. Connections ... HR at CONFIDENTIAL; corruptct Corruption Administrator/Writer at.

    Coventry, April 9, 2000: Robert Gouin, was charged with breach of peace, second-degree harassment and ridicule on account of race as a result of a January Web site posting that contained a racial slur and was racially motivated toward a black male.

    http://www.southernct.edu/womenscenter/hatecrimes/

    this is the other half Courtney Labonte www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJsNeiytJoQ

    53a-140 Forgery 3rd Deg 14-215(c)(1) ILL Opn Mv Und Suspnsn-Alcohol http://www.jud2.ct.gov/crdockets/CaseDetailDisp.aspx?source=Pending&Key=6d71ff6e-e571-4498-b85c-690f133538ab

    very nice people that will lie to help Bill the Pie Man

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    1. ohh poor Rob got rid of his Linkin we still have the screen shot .....Maybe you should get rid of her email too.Courtney LaBonte <clabonte@webmaxdb.com or maybe the screen shot of Rob on telling KW that a Man Who told his Son “if you love me then you would Kill yourself” is such a Great guy, or how about the Police report were you are telling KW to Lie and said she saw an Assault to a state worker.Well, Rob still conning people. One more question did you move from the Motel? Or did you give Courtney the okay to Stay with Bill the Pie man while he was in CT.MMM just wondering because you still have on your Page the Man that was a Speaker for WTP, really how bumb are the Pie Man People, Or are that greedy for their 15min on fame they just do not care.

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  16. Our code word for your GF is Lot lizard, please do not forget to tell the Pie man's Zombie, What that is!

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  17. My oh my.How does one, put into words the sadness, that she feels.To learn that all of the hopes, dreams and tireless efforts, have come down to THIS? Some things, we were not meant to understand...I guess! If You were unable to have been saved...from your reckless behavior...it was not as in many instances...due to a lack of effort on the part of one..who thought that you were her partner..as she was surly yours.???What happened?

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